No 2010 360 game can match KZ2.

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#101 Nonstop-Madness
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The only game I see beating KZ2, U2 or GOW3 in the near future for the 360 is Gears 3.
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#102 lawlessx
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probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixKevinButlerVP
so lets all pretend that the game was never first developed for the PC and then the 360 years later :roll:
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#103 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixSev_the_gamer

Cuz that game had like 40 people working on it, jeez what did the game ever do to you to bash it every time you post?

His name is KevinButler:P its natural for him not to like Alan Wake.

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#104 Bus-A-Bus
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Look at the threes,the blurriness,the ground textures and missing foliage in ps3 version...there clearly IS a difference.

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#105 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixlawlessx
so lets all pretend that the game was never first developed for the PC and then the 360 years later :roll:

Or some of the best lighting out there :]
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#106 navyguy21
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People in here (you know who you are) need to stop trying to argue your opinion as fact. Graphics are all subjective. What is graphics king to YOU may not be to another poster. You cant force your opinion on others. GOW3 looks good, but to place it up there with KZ2 and UC2 is just rubbish. UC2 is the only game on consoles that stands above the rest in my opinion. It all comes down to dev talent and time. Sony clearly has the upper hand there, NOT in console (usable) power. Raw power means squat if you dont have the RAM or architecture to support it. Teuf, correct me if im wrong, but isnt theCell pretty much handicapped by the RSX? Anyway, i dont get this power argument when the maker of the processors have said multiple times that they were even in usable power.
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#107 i5750at4Ghz
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Just my opinion of course but I can't really notice a difference between Gears, Uncharted, Alan Wake and KZ2. The are all equal imo. However GOW3 looks much better than all 3. From a technical standpoint, I don't know enough about the games to comment.
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#108 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixRavensmash
so lets all pretend that the game was never first developed for the PC and then the 360 years later :roll:

Or some of the best lighting out there :]

Yea...and totally scrapped directions(open world to linear) then changing the focus to 360...The problem with AW is that it has alot of alphas,lots of foliage so to reduce jaggines and dithering they went with 4xAA,and in 2009 E3 game was 2xAA 720p...if it stayed that way people would not even care...

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#109 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]^^^ they look about the same lol.Ravensmash
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247305 Of course.

*cough* On the pictures that posted... oh and noticed I said about the same?
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#110 hamzah1235
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Just my opinion of course but I can't really notice a difference between Gears, Uncharted, Alan Wake and KZ2. The are all equal imo. However GOW3 looks much better than all 3. From a technical standpoint, I don't know enough about the games to comment. i5750at4Ghz
There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AW
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] so lets all pretend that the game was never first developed for the PC and then the 360 years later :roll:Bus-A-Bus

Or some of the best lighting out there :]

Yea...and totally scrapped directions(open world to linear) then changing the focus to 360...The problem with AW is that it has alot of alphas,lots of foliage so to reduce jaggines and dithering they went with 4xAA,and in 2009 E3 game was 2xAA 720p...if it stayed that way people would not even care...

True. But playing it is a treat to my eyes sometimes, not to mention I've never played a game like it. The episodes are huge, and break up the story fantastically - the game is 'linear', but it doesn't feel that way at times, due to the actual scale of the world around you. (Yeah, I'm really enjoying it :P)
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#112 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Just my opinion of course but I can't really notice a difference between Gears, Uncharted, Alan Wake and KZ2. The are all equal imo. However GOW3 looks much better than all 3. From a technical standpoint, I don't know enough about the games to comment. hamzah1235
There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AW

Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.
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#113 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]^^^ they look about the same lol.lbjkurono23
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247305 Of course.

*cough* On the pictures that posted... oh and noticed I said about the same?

Sorry :P I just thought it was a good opportunity to drop this in, probably didn't need to quote you .
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#114 chronocross668
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If rdr is the new graphic king for the 360 then lol, doesnt even look good to begin , hopefuly a pc version comes out .

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#115 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Just my opinion of course but I can't really notice a difference between Gears, Uncharted, Alan Wake and KZ2. The are all equal imo. However GOW3 looks much better than all 3. From a technical standpoint, I don't know enough about the games to comment. i5750at4Ghz
There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AW

Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.

You have to put on your GS issued fanboy goggles :P

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#116 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Just my opinion of course but I can't really notice a difference between Gears, Uncharted, Alan Wake and KZ2. The are all equal imo. However GOW3 looks much better than all 3. From a technical standpoint, I don't know enough about the games to comment. i5750at4Ghz
There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AW

Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...
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#117 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AWnavyguy21

Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.

You have to put on your GS issued fanboy goggles :P

Or you might have to actually play those games...:roll:
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#118 Bus-A-Bus
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If rdr is the new graphic king for the 360 then lol, doesnt even look good to begin , hopefuly a pc version comes out .

chronocross668

Yea...it probably does not look that good since you play ps3 version.

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#119 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AWhamzah1235
Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...

"Everyone" is a very bold statement. Fact is people can see whatever they want to see, doesn't change what I see. And imo all of these games are a 9 or 9.5 in graphics.
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#120 lbjkurono23
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Look at the threes,the blurriness,the ground textures and missing foliage in ps3 version...there clearly IS a difference.

Bus-A-Bus

Woops didn't actually see this one D: wtf!!!

but honestly you'd have to be playing them side by side to see the difference :P

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#122 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AWhamzah1235
Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

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#123 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable. hamzah1235

You have to put on your GS issued fanboy goggles :P

Or you might have to actually play those games...:roll:

I've played them all. Ask me anything. KZ2 is one of my favorite shooters this gen, aside from it's online.
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#124 chronocross668
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[QUOTE="chronocross668"]

If rdr is the new graphic king for the 360 then lol, doesnt even look good to begin , hopefuly a pc version comes out .

Bus-A-Bus

Yea...it probably does not look that good since you play ps3 version.

Didn't play either version but base on the screenshot you posted. If this the best 360 can do then gl beating the big 3 GG.

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#125 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable. navyguy21

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.
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#126 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] There is a large difference between Gears of war 2/Alan Wake (Though AW not too large) and KZ2/GOW3/U2, with the latter in their own graphical league compared to Gears 2/AWhamzah1235
Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable.

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...

I agree, I mean...

http://www.lensoftruth.com/wp-content/gallery/h2h_kz2_gow2/h2h_kz2_gow2_01.jpg

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#127 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...hamzah1235

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...
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#128 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

hamzah1235

Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...

I never said you said the looked like PS2 games. It's simply the way you are acting. Just a FYI, not everyone thinks what you think. Which game looks better depends simply of your person preference. They are all very close in graphical appeal. But you go on thinking whatever you like, don't mind me.

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#129 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

hamzah1235

Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...

ok, fine, to YOU they are not comparable, but you cant speak for others, so dont continue to try.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

hamzah1235

Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...

Gears 2 is easily in the same league - I went back to it a few months ago and was still blown away by it - technically and artistically.

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#131 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Again I don't see it. They are all very comparable. TintedEyes

You dont see it, though nearly everyone else does...

I agree, I mean...

No one is arguing that KZ2 looks better, but by you posting that, you at the very least proved that they CAN be compared...........so thanks lol. Also, view the video of Gears 2 i posted, and yes i have a PS3 and have played all the games listed :P

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#132 savagetwinkie
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These threads are so pointless, no one here has technical knowlege of how the game engine runs and where they spend their resources. All we know for sure is that uc2, kz2, and gow3 mainly focus on things looking pretty.

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#133 Clank-PS-Snake
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]^^^ they look about the same lol.lbjkurono23
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=247305 Of course.

*cough* On the pictures that posted... oh and noticed I said about the same?

First you call me a fanboy for saying that U2, GOW III and KZ2 looked better then anything on 360 (which most people agree with so i guess they're fanboys too, you probably agree too but you're too scared to admit) and now you're claiming that the PS3 version of RDR looks as good as the 360 version, anyone with half decent eyes could see the 360 version looks better. Nobody's going to judge you if you say one thing negative or positive about a console, you're just coming of as ignorant and un-opinionated with you're 100% neutral stance.
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#134 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.Ravensmash

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...

Gears 2 is easily in the same league - I went back to it a few months ago and was still blown away by it - technically and artistically.

Well maybe you should play KZ2/U2/GOW3 and then comment about Gears 2 being in the same league, because its obviously and acceptently not
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You mean will any 360 game ever match a linear, corridor shooter? LOL. I'd take Reach's graphics + the size of the maps ANYDAY over KZ2. Besides, if you want to get technical, Fight Night Round 4 is the best looking console game. Cows just won't admit it.
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#136 usule
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

As he stated, they are COMPARABLE, not that you will actually concede ;)

hamzah1235

Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...

You are confusing. I agree U2 has the best graphics right now but to say its on a different league is ludicrous... A different league would be the wii or the next gen consoles... And what "league" are you talking about??? stop repeating nonsense jargon you hear on system wars.. Killzone 2 has much more in common with Gears 2 than uncharted, they both have limited colors and are kind of grayish. U2 is very colorful, why in the world would KZ2 and U2 be in the same league??? Not same engine, totally different feel... have you played those games???

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#137 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...hamzah1235

Gears 2 is easily in the same league - I went back to it a few months ago and was still blown away by it - technically and artistically.

Well maybe you should play KZ2/U2/GOW3 and then comment about Gears 2 being in the same league, because its obviously and acceptently not

I have played them, and the video i posted is proof that they are comparable, and in the same league as you like to put it. Just because YOU dont think they are doesnt mean its the truth.
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#138 i5750at4Ghz
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You mean will any 360 game ever match a linear, corridor shooter? LOL. I'd take Reach's graphics + the size of the maps ANYDAY over KZ2. Besides, if you want to get technical, Fight Night Round 4 is the best looking console game. Cows just won't admit it.mythrol
Naw if you're going to go there MLB the Show kills everything. Damn thing runs native 1080p.
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#139 worknow222
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Crysis 2 will eat it alive...then RAGE will come and **** slap Drake.Quote me on that,im tired of this "inferior hardware brainwashed" bullcrap...

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ps3 or so fanboys wil belive anything they want, just sit back and humour them.
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#140 Bus-A-Bus
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Oh...newest scans of Crysis 2 arrived...IF only i could post them :( LOL at KZ2 and this thread :lol:

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Seriously dude is acting like Gears and Alan Wake are PS2 games. There are some of the best looking games I've ever seen, and I have a $1500 gaming rig.usule

I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...

You are confusing. I agree U2 has the best graphics right now but to say its on a different league is ludicrous... A different league would be the wii or the next gen consoles... And what "league" are you talking about??? stop repeating nonsense jargon you hear on system wars.. Killzone 2 has much more in common with Gears 2 than uncharted, they both have limited colors and are kind of grayish. U2 is very colorful, why in the world would KZ2 and U2 be in the same league??? Not same engine, totally different feel... have you played those games???

gears 2 is acutally really colorful if you play it.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] I never stated that they looked like PS2 games, all i said was that they are not in the same graphical league as KZ2/GOW3/U2. Also, i have played alot of Gears 2...hamzah1235

Gears 2 is easily in the same league - I went back to it a few months ago and was still blown away by it - technically and artistically.

Well maybe you should play KZ2/U2/GOW3 and then comment about Gears 2 being in the same league, because its obviously and acceptently not

I haven't played KZ2 in HD, it looks nice yes - I've played 2 hours of UC2 round a friends (amazing game) - and yeah I still think they're comparable and close to each other.
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#143 hamzah1235
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You mean will any 360 game ever match a linear, corridor shooter? LOL. I'd take Reach's graphics + the size of the maps ANYDAY over KZ2. Besides, if you want to get technical, Fight Night Round 4 is the best looking console game. Cows just won't admit it.mythrol
The multiplayer maps of KZ2 are larger than that of HR...
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#144 eNT1TY
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I am not seeing what some others apparently are with RDR. How is it more technically impressive than GTA4? I have played a bit of both versions and neither look liked graphics king on either platform. Aside from draw distance which Just Cause 2 does better i dont see any technical wizardry at play. The char models were not top tier in RDR imo, objects are not too detailed/low poly. What makes this game look good is the art direction and ambiance of the setting. For sandbox open games Fallout 3 for 360 had much higher object density and thus rendering alot more per scene and the draw distance wasnt too shabby to boot. KZ2 lacks the scale, that is the ONLY thing RDR has over it, both have a fairly low range of color and texture variety but kz2 smashes it in lighting, animation, particles, volumetric effects, char models, and liter objects.
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#145 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Gears 2 is easily in the same league - I went back to it a few months ago and was still blown away by it - technically and artistically.

Ravensmash

Well maybe you should play KZ2/U2/GOW3 and then comment about Gears 2 being in the same league, because its obviously and acceptently not

I haven't played KZ2 in HD, it looks nice yes - I've played 2 hours of UC2 round a friends (amazing game) - and yeah I still think they're comparable and close to each other.

...no, they are not...

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#146 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] Well maybe you should play KZ2/U2/GOW3 and then comment about Gears 2 being in the same league, because its obviously and acceptently nothamzah1235

I haven't played KZ2 in HD, it looks nice yes - I've played 2 hours of UC2 round a friends (amazing game) - and yeah I still think they're comparable and close to each other.

...no, they are not...

I find it funny you keep saying they aren't. Yet there are posts everyday comparing said games. If they weren't why would 75% of SW posts be about graphics?
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#147 theseekar
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Title says it all. Is it a case of weaker hardware or are MS's 1st party to weak to take full advantage of the console.

And nobody say all I care about is graphics because so far Alan Wake is 10x the game U2 was.

Clank-PS-Snake

Actually Alan Wake looksfar better than both Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, has far bigger levels, whole forests, better lighting and the list goes on

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#148 vaderhater
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Title says it all. Is it a case of weaker hardware or are MS's 1st party to weak to take full advantage of the console.

And nobody say all I care about is graphics because so far Alan Wake is 10x the game U2 was.

Clank-PS-Snake

The consoles are about equal. As we have witnessed in the last little while the biggest dael about how games will look or run is the type of graphics engine employed period. As for AW TC I can guarantee it would not run or look as good as it does on the PS3 as it uses a multiplat engine.

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#149 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Title says it all. Is it a case of weaker hardware or are MS's 1st party to weak to take full advantage of the console.

And nobody say all I care about is graphics because so far Alan Wake is 10x the game U2 was.

Actually Alan Wake looksfar better than both Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2, has far bigger levels, whole forests, better lighting and the list goes on

Teh Sub HD looks betterz!11!!11!!1 lolololol :roll:.It really doesnt even compare...
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#150 hamzah1235
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I haven't played KZ2 in HD, it looks nice yes - I've played 2 hours of UC2 round a friends (amazing game) - and yeah I still think they're comparable and close to each other.

...no, they are not...

I find it funny you keep saying they aren't. Yet there are posts everyday comparing said games. If they weren't why would 75% of SW posts be about graphics?

No there are not...Most of SW accepts the fact that KZ2/U2/GOW3 are in their own graphical leagues technically