No FF VII Remake!

I think a remake NEEDS to be made, for one simple reason, and it's not rabid fanboyism; to finally compare the MOST OVERRATED entry in the series to the recent entries in the series in a graphical, non-nostalgic, modern way. To actually see if the game lives up to its damn name, to see if it truly stood the test of time or if it just came at the right time on the right system. The debate is still up; if a remake was made, we will finally test FFVII's value. Don't change ANYTHING about it other than updating the graphics for the PS3, and presto, we see FFVII in all its glory.Cerberus_Legion

But updating its graphics would severely change its atmosphere and charm imo., Which then changes how the game feels and plays

I still want a FF VII remake but at this point I would be willing to wait another console generation to see it happen. Corvin

All people in front of me when purchasing a new System with a FF VII remake as a launch title...beware.

but what is the drive for a remake? What is so bad about the first one today that it needs to be remade? Can you not stand the graphics now? and what would your reaction be if the game screwed up and everyone hated it?metalisticpain

1.) My drive is to see FF VII re invisioned for the new generation of gamers, sadly not everyone is willing to play with block characters, as such example Resident Evil Remake did a perfect job of bringing a classic to the next generation gamers.

2.)There is nothing about the first one they made the best part is timeless and that is the story, a graphical and system update if done properly would only enhance that.

3.) What do I care what everyone else thinks? as long as they keep the characters and story intact I would be perfect.

Personally I think FF VII is a game that could be remade and perfectly to make a even better game, this would all of course be up to the Devs, but I doubt SE would take the remake lightly giving it's there child. FF VII brought SE into a new era of game development, and is their most prized game in all creation, besides maybe the first Final Fantasy that was supposed to be the last game Square ever made, but pulled them from oblivion.

I have utmost confidence in SE's abillity to remake FF VII properly in my eyes, in everyone elses? hey you can't please everyone, but you can sure make a mint trying.

A remake must be made, fans of the game are going nuts about it and Im one of them, it is going to appeal to the new gamers who didn't play it also.

And the story is serious no doubt about it so whats wrong if they make the art style just like AC? it was amazing imho, the game had its funny moments and that would not be neglected even if the artsyle and the atmosphere is in all seriousness which is supposed to be.

The thing I want it to be done very well is the voice acting, thats the most important aspect to the remake.

I want it to be just a graphical overhaul with nothing changed at all, no 3D camera, I want the backgrounds stand still like in Devil May Cry or Lost Odyssey for example.

I have NO faith in SE making an FFVII remake properly, at all; Square has gone downhill ever since merging with Enix, and their numerous spin offs for FF/FFVII have done nothing but defaced the brand name. Advent Children, as a film on its own merits, was utterly horrible. No coherent plot, the editing was bad, the dialogue and acting was atrocious, and the whole film's pace was disjointed. Dirge of Cerberus was pure and utter crap. Crisis Core is an okay action game, but heavily repetitive. Everything Nomura seems to touch turns to pure, unadulterated crud, save for his Kingdom Hearts.

I have no doubt in my mind that a remake of FFVII will emulate Advent Children's art style, utilize the horrible voice actors, and so forth. They might keep the battle system the way it is, but guess what? Turn Based isn't the "in" thing anymore; Lost Odyssey, a brilliant JRPG, was knocked because of it and I have no doubt critics will either prove their double standards by giving VII leeway in the battle system department or the battle system will be a detriment to the game's appeal. Not only that, but SE will likely add material from Crisis Core to give VII a more continuity, therefore NOT following by the original.

SE seems to focus all of its resources on VII, and me being an IX fan through and through, I can't seem to put my eye on that even though these VII games are lucrative, I think they're defacing VII's overall value, or whatever value it has left. A remake would either be a FLOP, or a SUCCESS, nowhere in between. A remake is a Win/Lose situation, with it leaning more towards losing rather than winning.

e jNothing is bad about the old FFVII; fans just let their nostalgia get to them. An Ocarina of Time remake in 360/PS3 quality graphics would probably be a Nintendo fan's dream come true, same for FFVII fans and their remake. Me, I liked FFVII, but I don't want to see a remake, unless it's to test FFVII's mettle against the rest, to see if it truly stacks up and stands the test of time.Cerberus_Legion

What test? What aspect of the game is gonna fail?

It has one of the best stories which is something timeless, it has the materia system which Im dying to see it again, the gameplay mechanics are phenomenal, the open-ended world with all of its hard secrets and side missions so what is the test?

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]e jNothing is bad about the old FFVII; fans just let their nostalgia get to them. An Ocarina of Time remake in 360/PS3 quality graphics would probably be a Nintendo fan's dream come true, same for FFVII fans and their remake. Me, I liked FFVII, but I don't want to see a remake, unless it's to test FFVII's mettle against the rest, to see if it truly stacks up and stands the test of time.HAZE-Unit

What test? What aspect of the game is gonna fail?

It has one of the best stories which is something timeless, it has the materia system which Im dying to see it again, the gameplay mechanics are phenomenal, the open-ended world with all of its hard secrets and side missions so what is the test?

Why, didn' you get the memo, mate? The test of time! Fan's nostalgia often lets it get the best of them; I know, I've been there, done that. I would love nothing more than to see a 3D recreation of Chrono Trigger, but it ain't happenin! It's time for fans to stop giving FFVII so much credit where, at the time of its release, I believe it was released at the right time for the right system. However, now we're in the year 2008; Turn Based battle is decried, and FFVII's storyline was exactly great; it was convoluted. That doesn't make for a great storyline, but again, storyline is in the mind of the player. Times change, and with that, FFVII will HAVE to be stuck in '97 with just a graphical overhaul for it to prove its real worth, as to see how it really stacks up to today's RPGs. That is the test it needs to pass; the test of time.

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[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]e jNothing is bad about the old FFVII; fans just let their nostalgia get to them. An Ocarina of Time remake in 360/PS3 quality graphics would probably be a Nintendo fan's dream come true, same for FFVII fans and their remake. Me, I liked FFVII, but I don't want to see a remake, unless it's to test FFVII's mettle against the rest, to see if it truly stacks up and stands the test of time.Cerberus_Legion

What test? What aspect of the game is gonna fail?

It has one of the best stories which is something timeless, it has the materia system which Im dying to see it again, the gameplay mechanics are phenomenal, the open-ended world with all of its hard secrets and side missions so what is the test?

Why, didn' you get the memo, mate? The test of time! Fan's nostalgia often lets it get the best of them; I know, I've been there, done that. I would love nothing more than to see a 3D recreation of Chrono Trigger, but it ain't happenin! It's time for fans to stop giving FFVII so much credit where, at the time of its release, I believe it was released at the right time for the right system. However, now we're in the year 2008; Turn Based battle is decried, and FFVII's storyline was exactly great; it was convoluted. That doesn't make for a great storyline, but again, storyline is in the mind of the player. Times change, and with that, FFVII will HAVE to be stuck in '97 with just a graphical overhaul for it to prove its real worth, as to see how it really stacks up to today's RPGs. That is the test it needs to pass; the test of time.

I disapprove the bolded, there is no gameplay mechanic that is dated, it is bull talking, and to be fair, FFVII ( and any FF in-general) has limit breaks and summons which adds alot to the gameplay and when I played LO I didn't see anything wrong with the turn based system, the game goes down because it does have a killing linearity, there is almost nothing beside going to the main story.

EDIT: as for the story aspect of the game, it is interesting to watch it in today's high quality with motion capture and voice acting, I really wanna see how does it add to the story.

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]e jNothing is bad about the old FFVII; fans just let their nostalgia get to them. An Ocarina of Time remake in 360/PS3 quality graphics would probably be a Nintendo fan's dream come true, same for FFVII fans and their remake. Me, I liked FFVII, but I don't want to see a remake, unless it's to test FFVII's mettle against the rest, to see if it truly stacks up and stands the test of time.HAZE-Unit

What test? What aspect of the game is gonna fail?

It has one of the best stories which is something timeless, it has the materia system which Im dying to see it again, the gameplay mechanics are phenomenal, the open-ended world with all of its hard secrets and side missions so what is the test?

Why, didn' you get the memo, mate? The test of time! Fan's nostalgia often lets it get the best of them; I know, I've been there, done that. I would love nothing more than to see a 3D recreation of Chrono Trigger, but it ain't happenin! It's time for fans to stop giving FFVII so much credit where, at the time of its release, I believe it was released at the right time for the right system. However, now we're in the year 2008; Turn Based battle is decried, and FFVII's storyline was exactly great; it was convoluted. That doesn't make for a great storyline, but again, storyline is in the mind of the player. Times change, and with that, FFVII will HAVE to be stuck in '97 with just a graphical overhaul for it to prove its real worth, as to see how it really stacks up to today's RPGs. That is the test it needs to pass; the test of time.

I disapprove the bolded, there is no gameplay mechanic that is dated, it is bull talking, and to be fair, FFVII ( and any FF in-general) has limit breaks and summons which adds alot to the gameplay and when I played LO I didn't see anything wrong with the turn based system, the game goes down because it does have a killing linearity, there is almost nothing beside going to the main story.

Oh really? The Battle System in LO, coupled with the 'Loading issues' are probably the main TWO reasons why the game was docked so many points in so many review circles. The Battle System in particular is one the most criticized aspects of the game. And I'm not saying whether or not we the fans will think FFVII will prove great with the battle system, I'm talking about critics. I will cry afoul if critics will let FFVII Remake slide with a "dated," as they say, battle system and not give it to LO simply because it's a new IP utilizing a, in their opinion, dated mechanic. That is one of the prime reasons I see a FFVII Remake failing in the eyes of CRITICS, not fans. Fans, I'm pretty sure they will revel in that they keep that aspect of the game. LO fans seem to not care about the battle system either. FFVII was also extremely linear; sure, there were few spots that you could take frequent breaks such as the Golden Saucer and whatnot but other than that, it had sidequests later on in the game, much like Lost Odyssey.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]e jNothing is bad about the old FFVII; fans just let their nostalgia get to them. An Ocarina of Time remake in 360/PS3 quality graphics would probably be a Nintendo fan's dream come true, same for FFVII fans and their remake. Me, I liked FFVII, but I don't want to see a remake, unless it's to test FFVII's mettle against the rest, to see if it truly stacks up and stands the test of time.Cerberus_Legion

What test? What aspect of the game is gonna fail?

It has one of the best stories which is something timeless, it has the materia system which Im dying to see it again, the gameplay mechanics are phenomenal, the open-ended world with all of its hard secrets and side missions so what is the test?

Why, didn' you get the memo, mate? The test of time! Fan's nostalgia often lets it get the best of them; I know, I've been there, done that. I would love nothing more than to see a 3D recreation of Chrono Trigger, but it ain't happenin! It's time for fans to stop giving FFVII so much credit where, at the time of its release, I believe it was released at the right time for the right system. However, now we're in the year 2008; Turn Based battle is decried, and FFVII's storyline was exactly great; it was convoluted. That doesn't make for a great storyline, but again, storyline is in the mind of the player. Times change, and with that, FFVII will HAVE to be stuck in '97 with just a graphical overhaul for it to prove its real worth, as to see how it really stacks up to today's RPGs. That is the test it needs to pass; the test of time.

I disapprove the bolded, there is no gameplay mechanic that is dated, it is bull talking, and to be fair, FFVII ( and any FF in-general) has limit breaks and summons which adds alot to the gameplay and when I played LO I didn't see anything wrong with the turn based system, the game goes down because it does have a killing linearity, there is almost nothing beside going to the main story.

Oh really? The Battle System in LO, coupled with the 'Loading issues' are probably the main TWO reasons why the game was docked so many points in so many review circles. The Battle System in particular is one the most criticized aspects of the game. And I'm not saying whether or not we the fans will think FFVII will prove great with the battle system, I'm talking about critics. I will cry afoul if critics will let FFVII Remake slide with a "dated," as they say, battle system and not give it to LO simply because it's a new IP utilizing a, in their opinion, dated mechanic. That is one of the prime reasons I see a FFVII Remake failing in the eyes of CRITICS, not fans. Fans, I'm pretty sure they will revel in that they keep that aspect of the game. LO fans seem to not care about the battle system either. FFVII was also extremely linear; sure, there were few spots that you could take frequent breaks such as the Golden Saucer and whatnot but other than that, it had sidequests later on in the game, much like Lost Odyssey.

But there is no loading issues, I didn't experience it when playing, it was a mistake made by GS and they fixed their review I think.

Secondly, People don't care alot about reviewers and others also don't care at all about them also and it is a fan service which would make Square's reputation great in gamers eyes if they do it and I hope they do it, there is no harm in making it imho.

And could you provide me with some of the stupid reviewers who criticized LO for its battle system if you don't mind, just to take a look.

I think a remake NEEDS to be made, for one simple reason, and it's not rabid fanboyism; to finally compare the MOST OVERRATED entry in the series to the recent entries in the series in a graphical, non-nostalgic, modern way. To actually see if the game lives up to its damn name, to see if it truly stood the test of time or if it just came at the right time on the right system. The debate is still up; if a remake was made, we will finally test FFVII's value. Don't change ANYTHING about it other than updating the graphics for the PS3, and presto, we see FFVII in all its glory.Cerberus_Legion

This is not needed. Go and play the original copy of FFVII and judge it for yourself. There is only one FFVII and that's the one released in 1997, you just can't make a new one and use it to make any cmparison to the current game. Perhaps you can compare the original copy with other 1997 games and a like?

Voice Acting alone would be alot of work. Where as in FFVII you just had to read it yourself like a book, and use your imagination.

I prefer if they concentrate on newer games. FFVII doesn't necessarily have to be the best FFVII of all time. They can focus on FFXIV and make that the best FF of the franchise. If they'd want it of course.

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]I think a remake NEEDS to be made, for one simple reason, and it's not rabid fanboyism; to finally compare the MOST OVERRATED entry in the series to the recent entries in the series in a graphical, non-nostalgic, modern way. To actually see if the game lives up to its damn name, to see if it truly stood the test of time or if it just came at the right time on the right system. The debate is still up; if a remake was made, we will finally test FFVII's value. Don't change ANYTHING about it other than updating the graphics for the PS3, and presto, we see FFVII in all its glory.metalisticpain

But updating its graphics would severely change its atmosphere and charm imo., Which then changes how the game feels and plays

no it wouldnt. look at ff3 on ds and ff4 i think aswell on ds they updated teh graphics and the game plays and feels better rather than the 2d sprites. it depends how they go about remaking it. i say just a graphical upgrade would do the job. i mean who doesnt want to see cloud and tifa and aeries in HD glory??? see their hair blowing in the wind see battles as they should have been i.e. advent children. inclusion of cinematic battles would just be tooo awesome

They would need to change the combat system.. Its sorely outdated, and its rattings will show it that.. If they kept the exact same item, combat, and leveling system the game will do poorly...

If they are going to remake it and make it turn based.. Then IMO they would have to give it a strategy RPG combat system where it allows grid movement etc etc.. Its either that or a real time system..

Item system was awful in FF7 it was a linear function of getting a better item and equiping it.. Etc etc.. No randomization, and it broke story seeing as Cloud was suppose to be using the Buster sword the whole way through..

They need a better leveling system.. As it stands every rpg now a days even the JRPG's have a unique leveling system that gives you choiec in character development.

Well, im currently playing through FF7 right now, for the first time. I have to say it is a great game, I am enjoying it quite a bit, so far it's one of the only JRPGs that I like.

So in my opinion FF7 isnt about the nostalgia, it's just a great game.

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]I think a remake NEEDS to be made, for one simple reason, and it's not rabid fanboyism; to finally compare the MOST OVERRATED entry in the series to the recent entries in the series in a graphical, non-nostalgic, modern way. To actually see if the game lives up to its damn name, to see if it truly stood the test of time or if it just came at the right time on the right system. The debate is still up; if a remake was made, we will finally test FFVII's value. Don't change ANYTHING about it other than updating the graphics for the PS3, and presto, we see FFVII in all its glory.hoplayletsplay

This is not needed. Go and play the original copy of FFVII and judge it for yourself. There is only one FFVII and that's the one released in 1997, you just can't make a new one and use it to make any cmparison to the current game. Perhaps you can compare the original copy with other 1997 games and a like?

There are two FF7 that have been released, one in 1998 for the PC.

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[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]I think a remake NEEDS to be made, for one simple reason, and it's not rabid fanboyism; to finally compare the MOST OVERRATED entry in the series to the recent entries in the series in a graphical, non-nostalgic, modern way. To actually see if the game lives up to its damn name, to see if it truly stood the test of time or if it just came at the right time on the right system. The debate is still up; if a remake was made, we will finally test FFVII's value. Don't change ANYTHING about it other than updating the graphics for the PS3, and presto, we see FFVII in all its glory.Vis-a-Vis

This is not needed. Go and play the original copy of FFVII and judge it for yourself. There is only one FFVII and that's the one released in 1997, you just can't make a new one and use it to make any cmparison to the current game. Perhaps you can compare the original copy with other 1997 games and a like?

There are two FF7 that have been released, one in 1998 for the PC.

They just need to release it in the Playstation Store.. As a PSone game capable of being played on the PSP/PS3 and I will be happy.

Well, im currently playing through FF7 right now, for the first time. I have to say it is a great game, I am enjoying it quite a bit, so far it's one of the only JRPGs that I like.

So in my opinion FF7 isnt about the nostalgia, it's just a great game.

Vis-a-Vis

yes exactly. the thing is people are comparing the game to todays standards and obviously the game does not stand up to the likes of other great new games available today. its like me saying is pong comparable to rockstars table tennis?? of course not! the game was great for when it was released way back. so a remake with improved graphics and maybe a new battle system would put this game back on top where it deserves to be.

Well you know what I say. Hell no to a remake. Its already bad enough with all the remakes/spinoffs/ports we have already from Square Enix if FFVII Remake comes out then all aboard the gravy train of even more remakes/ports/spinoffs!!!

What Square Enix should do is just release an HD or updated resolution of the game on PSN/XBLA or whatever. Its way too late for a reprint like how Disgaea went through.

I still can't believe that even with the drought of console games we have to play with from Square Enix people would rather be set back even farther from games just so Square Enix can make a Remake of a game almost everyone has already played.

But whatever. Go right ahead Sqaure Enix. Make this remake and we'll see what happens. By the time the end of this generation comes we will have played FFXIII, FFXIII Versus, Kingdom Hearts 3, and FFVII Remake. Then bring on the PS4.

A remake would definitely be a success. A game that sold around 10 million copies, and is still in demand to this day. Final Fantasy VII is branded as the most popular game in a long series of games, and many peoples favorite. A remake would do wonders.

The issue is that square can only do so much at one time. They have a full team working on Final Fantasy XIII. They have their Kingdom Hearts team working on Final Fantasy XIII versus at the moment. A team doing a Final Fantasy IV remake for the DS, another team just finished TWEWY for the DS, a new IP. And they have another team wrapping up Crystal Chronicles for the Wii. So they are defenetely doing a lot. Once they finish these projects, there is a lot of directions they could go, and I believe Square said they would be open the a FFVII remake if there was enough demand (there easily is.)

Now I would think when they FFXIII and XIIIversus, those teams would begin production on FFXIV and Kingdom Hearts3. However their FFXI team is developing a MMORPG, and there were rumors of FFXIV being a MMORPG. So if that holds to be true, then that FFXIII team would be available for possibly a FFVII remake. Their other teams should be available soon too. So signs point to a possibility, but until Square confirms something, I wouldn't get too excited.

It's not necessary. And it'll wind up scoring like Blue Dragon.

"...buh buh teh dated combat system! teh pop-up enemiez!"

Nostalga will wear off very quickly for many...and only the most hard-core will appreciate it.

Better off just booting FF7 up on your PlayStation console and enjoying the memories.

[QUOTE="Cerberus_Legion"]I think a remake NEEDS to be made, for one simple reason, and it's not rabid fanboyism; to finally compare the MOST OVERRATED entry in the series to the recent entries in the series in a graphical, non-nostalgic, modern way. To actually see if the game lives up to its damn name, to see if it truly stood the test of time or if it just came at the right time on the right system. The debate is still up; if a remake was made, we will finally test FFVII's value. Don't change ANYTHING about it other than updating the graphics for the PS3, and presto, we see FFVII in all its glory.hoplayletsplay

This is not needed. Go and play the original copy of FFVII and judge it for yourself. There is only one FFVII and that's the one released in 1997, you just can't make a new one and use it to make any cmparison to the current game. Perhaps you can compare the original copy with other 1997 games and a like?

I've already played it and beaten it three times; I've judged it for myself, and I say it's the most overrated Final Fantasy of all time. Good, yes, but overrated as hell, thank you very much. And yes, I played it back in 1997. Even back then I thought 2D Chrono Trigger was far superior.

Seriously the only reason FF fans are screaming for an FF7 remake is because they know Square-Enix is not capable of making a new FF that is on par with the quality of that game. Atleast they think that. I find that pretty sad, that fans don't have a little faith in Square and are just constantly wanting an FF7 remake and not something new.

I know they screwed up right after they merged an all but I think FF13 has the potential to suppass the old FF games as good as they are. People are hyping an FF7 remake more than FF13 and any new FF for that matter because they think it's going to turn out half arssed.

Heyas.

I'm just expressing my opinion on how everyone wants a remake for VII. I personally don't want remakes, unless they did like FF II and brought it to regions shores who missed out last time. I can even agree with remaking the Snes games, but as for VII i dont believe there is a strong argument for remaking, and I think a remake would destroy the game.

When you think about it, if you remade VII you can have 2 reactions
- A fantastic remake that everyone likes
- Or a remake that destroys what FF VII was and tranishes the game for fans and newcomers alike.

Personally, i would not want to risk destroying FF VII, when all you are going to get is a graphical update. I mean its not like the graphics do it an injustice. Imo the graphics add charm and quirkyness that would be lost in a realistic remake. Such as cloud dressing up. On the ps3 you would see a lot more detail, and it wouldnt be as funny as the ps1 makes it. Also character animations would be completely different, destroying the atmosphere and scenes where they express emotion.

I dont think you could pull off FF VII as a remake, it would be to serious during the light hearted bits and destroy the games charm.metalisticpain

i like this post :D

I cant see barrat without a single box for a gun xD The pre renderd towns.

Ahhh that game was just bliss :P If a remake was made the game would be shorter too.....the length of the game came from reading all of the story. FF X imo was very short story wise because of the 'real' voice acting.