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#1 whitey_rolls
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The gaming industry are a bunch of sheep, as soon as one publication gives a great score the rest fall in line afraid of ridicule. And no game with a 4 next to its name deserves a 10, how much of that game could possibly be original? The majority of it is repacked and rehashed but prettier. Also how does a game get a perfect score if it is not bug and error free? And you might say "well no game is bug free" exactly so why do they get 10's? ... Lastly most publications list visuals as a basis for scoring a game and if Say crysis, or GT 5 is the standard set within the industry this game in question deserves about a 7 in that category. SHEEP i tell you they're All SHEEP!!!!

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#2 tenaka2
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I have no doubt its a great game, I shall get it.

But have to agree, its the same gameplay with a graphical enhancement. Not sure it should get a 10.

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#3 deactivated-58319077a6477
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10 doesn't have to mean perfect.

I don't know what 10 means here or in other gaming sites.

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#4 airg6
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The gaming industry are a bunch of sheep, as soon as one publication gives a great score the rest fall in line afraid of ridicule. And no game with a 4 next to its name deserves a 10, how much of that game could possibly be original? The majority of it is repacked and rehashed but prettier. Also how does a game get a perfect score if it is not bug and error free? And you might say "well no game is bug free" exactly so why do they get 10's? ... Lastly most publications list visuals as a basis for scoring a game and if Say crysis, or GT 5 is the standard set within the industry this game in question deserves about a 7 in that category. SHEEP i tell you they're All SHEEP!!!!

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Youre just mad because you cant get the game. Get over your self. You should have bought a 360 or ps3.
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The gaming industry are a bunch of sheep, as soon as one publication gives a great score the rest fall in line afraid of ridicule. And no game with a 4 next to its name deserves a 10, how much of that game could possibly be original? The majority of it is repacked and rehashed but prettier. Also how does a game get a perfect score if it is not bug and error free? And you might say "well no game is bug free" exactly so why do they get 10's? ... Lastly most publications list visuals as a basis for scoring a game and if Say crysis, or GT 5 is the standard set within the industry this game in question deserves about a 7 in that category. SHEEP i tell you they're All SHEEP!!!!

whitey_rolls

10 isn't a perfect score. Do you really expect every game to be original in order to be rated highly? Those are pretty high expectations. Also, I think they rate graphics and things like that based on the system and genre of the game. Not 100% on that though. And there is more to graphics than just how good it looks. Like draw distance is a big one, which I hear gta is really good in.

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#6 Ragashahs
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10 doesn't mean perfect it means it to the best of whats possible
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#7 Vis-a-Vis
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Nothing is perfect, its just a score. Would you like it if they gave GTA4 a 9.5 just because a 10 says 'perfect'? Doesnt make sense to me. A 10 doesnt mean a game is perfect at all, you are completely wrong on that front (Go argue semantics elsewhere) GTA has great gameplay, story, graphics, voice acting , music, setting, atmosphere, backstory, it has it all, why doesnt it deserve a 10? Just because? Whatever.
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#8 deluxemando
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a score of 10 does not mean the game is fresh and original, it means it's fun to play, of high production value, and has VERY few, (so few that it's negligable during gameplay, but worth noting in a review) flaws.

Perhaps GTAIV fits. I haven't played it. Yet.

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#9 Always-Honest
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disagreed to the max. go pay another game

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#10 Dibdibdobdobo
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How can a rehash get a 10? Does not orignality come into the equation when games are reviewed these days?

Only games which deserve a 10 are the ground breaking games as of the likes of - Golden Eye, Zelda, FFVII, GTA, RE, Mario Galaxy, Super Mario World. All of them in comparison had orignality unlike GTA4.

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#11 airg6
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How can a rehash get a 10? Does not orignality come into the equation when games are reviewed these days?

Only games which deserve a 10 are the ground breaking games as of the likes of - Golden Eye, Zelda, FFVII, GTA, RE, Mario Galaxy, Super Mario World. All of them in comparison had orignality unlike GTA4.

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You included GTA in your list of games that should get a 10.
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#12 Dibdibdobdobo
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Thats the orignal GTA game which was out on the PS1 and PC!

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#13 leonhead
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Alot of sites gave lair a 9/10. That game got far from a 9. Also Assassins creed was given a 9.0 here and 7.9 on IGN. Some sites may tend to follow other sites (like IGN and teamxbox) But if its a good game, its a good game. Just because its 4 doesn't mean it won't bring anything new, look at GTA. It brought websites in, regular use of phones, added multiplayer, revamped shooting and driving. Some games with a 4 in them may not bring anything new to the series, but GTA certainly does. Also GTA IV, was pardoned with its graphics due to its detail. Have you seen the tour at night? It looks absolutely stunning, the whole city lights up, theres 100 websites in the in-game Internet. There are numerous TV stations you can view at the apartment. I also don't think reviewers compare every-game to Crisis or GT5P.

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#1 - The Legend of Zelda

#2 - Zelda II

#3 - Link to the Past

#4 - Ocarina of Time

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The gaming industry are a bunch of sheep, as soon as one publication gives a great score the rest fall in line afraid of ridicule. And no game with a 4 next to its name deserves a 10, how much of that game could possibly be original? The majority of it is repacked and rehashed but prettier. Also how does a game get a perfect score if it is not bug and error free? And you might say "well no game is bug free" exactly so why do they get 10's? ... Lastly most publications list visuals as a basis for scoring a game and if Say crysis, or GT 5 is the standard set within the industry this game in question deserves about a 7 in that category. SHEEP i tell you they're All SHEEP!!!!

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Thanks for sharing your opinion. :roll:
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#17 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

How can a rehash get a 10? Does not orignality come into the equation when games are reviewed these days?

Only games which deserve a 10 are the ground breaking games as of the likes of - Golden Eye, Zelda, FFVII, GTA, RE, Mario Galaxy, Super Mario World. All of them in comparison had orignality unlike GTA4.

airg6

You included GTA in your list of games that should get a 10.

Maybe he thinking original? My guess at least.

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#18 airg6
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Thats the orignal GTA game which was out on the PS1 and PC!

Dibdibdobdobo
The original Gta was the worst in the seris. You im guessing are a sony fanboy.
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The gaming industry are a bunch of sheep, as soon as one publication gives a great score the rest fall in line afraid of ridicule. And no game with a 4 next to its name deserves a 10, how much of that game could possibly be original? The majority of it is repacked and rehashed but prettier. Also how does a game get a perfect score if it is not bug and error free? And you might say "well no game is bug free" exactly so why do they get 10's? ... Lastly most publications list visuals as a basis for scoring a game and if Say crysis, or GT 5 is the standard set within the industry this game in question deserves about a 7 in that category. SHEEP i tell you they're All SHEEP!!!!

whitey_rolls

Thats sad.

you need to learn a little bit about the gaming industry before giving your opinion about it.

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#20 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Thats the orignal GTA game which was out on the PS1 and PC!

airg6

The original Gta was the worst in the seris. You im guessing are a sony fanboy.

Wrong on both accounts. never mind.

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#21 xxThyLordxx
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3 things that gives games good reviews and good sales are

1. Hype - A game can be hyped so much that even if it does not live up to expectations, people will forgive its flaws, which also influences reviews and sales.

2. Advertisement - Advertisement just fuels the hype.

last but not least

3. Bandwagon - lots of people buy games just because everyone is buying the game, same goes with reviews, everyone will give a game a certain score just because everyone gave it that score and not to lose face.

and you are 100% percent right, no game with '4' should get a 10, hell no game deserves a 10. they listed some flaws yet still gave it a 10. I'm not buying GTA 4, it looks like all other GTA games, seriously, in terms of gameplay, what has changed? nothing.

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#22 konichiwa21
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A 10 rating is soley based on the game's competition - not some fantasy universe where a game could be "perfect"..

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#23 Bread_or_Decide
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This is why I love a 5 star system. Nobody thinks 5 stars means perfect. But once you use a ten point scale theirs this burden that ten means perfect. 1UP an Giantbomb were smart to stay away from that stupid scoring system. It doesn't help anybody.
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#24 htotheo
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3 things that gives games good reviews and good sales are

1. Hype - A game can be hyped so much that even if it does not live up to expectations, people will forgive its flaws, which also influences reviews and sales.

2. Advertisement - Advertisement just fuels the hype.

last but not least

3. Bandwagon - lots of people buy games just because everyone is buying the game, same goes with reviews, everyone will give a game a certain score just because everyone gave it that score and not to lose face.

and you are 100% percent right, no game with '4' should get a 10, hell no game deserves a 10. they listed some flaws yet still gave it a 10. I'm not buying GTA 4, it looks like all other GTA games, seriously, in terms of gameplay, what has changed? nothing.

xxThyLordxx

if you say nothing changed then that is jsut ignorent. anyways i don't see why saying a game is rated 10 out of 10 gets such an uproar. why do so many people jsut look at the score without reading the whole review if you had your would have realised how much has changed in the series and how well its been done.

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#25 chrth
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In Gamespot history, there have been 4 other games that received a 10. Pro Skater 3 Chrono Cross Soul Calibur Ocarina of Time All except Soul Calibur were sequels. /thread
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#26 kaangonultas
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No need to be jealous nintendo fanboys.It got a ten .deal with it
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#27 Nike_Air
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This is why I love a 5 star system. Nobody thinks 5 stars means perfect. But once you use a ten point scale theirs this burden that ten means perfect. 1UP an Giantbomb were smart to stay away from that stupid scoring system. It doesn't help anybody. Bread_or_Decide
I am sure Giantbomb is extremetly happy with how gamerankings coverts their scores ....... Condemned 2 is 100% ! They should either ask to be removed from gamerankings or they should try and use half stars or something so the review reflects what they want it to.

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#28 Dibdibdobdobo
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In Gamespot history, there have been 4 other games that received a 10. Pro Skater 3 Chrono Cross Soul Calibur Ocarina of Time All except Soul Calibur were sequels. /threadchrth

You never played Soul Blade on the PS1 then?

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#29 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]This is why I love a 5 star system. Nobody thinks 5 stars means perfect. But once you use a ten point scale theirs this burden that ten means perfect. 1UP an Giantbomb were smart to stay away from that stupid scoring system. It doesn't help anybody. Nike_Air

I am sure Giantbomb is extremetly happy with how gamerankings coverts their scores ....... Condemned 2 is 100% ! They should either ask to be removed from gamerankings or they should try and use half stars or something so the review reflects what they want it to.

I don't think they care what gamerankings does to their scores. Half stars aren't a bad idea. But it doesn't really matter in the long run. Reading the review tells you more than the 1/2 star anyway.

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#30 chrth
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[QUOTE="chrth"]In Gamespot history, there have been 4 other games that received a 10. Pro Skater 3 Chrono Cross Soul Calibur Ocarina of Time All except Soul Calibur were sequels. /threadDibdibdobdobo

You never played Soul Blade on the PS1 then?

Heh. I was going off the Soul Calibur review, which mentioned it was based on the arcade game, so I didn't check back to see if there was a previous game in the series. I stand corrected. 100% of the games that ever got a 10 was a sequel.
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#31 RK-Mara
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That's why Super Mario Bros was only a trilogy :P

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#32 legol1
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as far as i know zelda occarina of time was the 4rt of the series and super mario galaxy !!!!!!!!!! i mean saving the princess from bowser thats never seen before right ?
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#33 AndYOU
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A 10/10 does not mean the specific game is perfect, but that it pushes the limits far past the point set
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#34 hamidious
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Totally agree man. However, if gamers wish to believe hype, let them.
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#35 wannweed
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it's just kind of funny because they gave zelda tp a lower score for being to much like oot but give this game a 10 this gta may be the best game ever i dont know because i haven't played it yet but if you take points for one game you have to do it for alll of them

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#36 BubbyJello
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Its not a 4, it has an IV next to its name. So I guess it can deserve a 10 ;)
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they gave gta iv a 9.5, then changed the score.

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#38 KungfuKitten
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it's just kind of funny because they gave zelda tp a lower score for being to much like oot but give this game a 10 this gta may be the best game ever i dont know because i haven't played it yet but if you take points for one game you have to do it for alll of them

wannweed


Well they did add the 16 player online mode. And better aiming system.

I know what You mean a bit. But whatever. It got a 10, we all know it's probably a superb game if You like this kind of game.
Now to wait for a PC version :P i just know there will be one.
Or else i'll pick up san andreas some time.

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Epic fail to anyone saying a game doesn't deserve its review score when they haven't actually played the game.
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#40 Lionheart08
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Seriously, take a moment and look back on how all the past GTA (post GTA2) scored on gamespot. GTA3- 9.6, GTA:VC 9.6, GTA:SA 9.6. It was only eventual that one of the games in the franchise would attain a perfect 10.
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#41 darcom1
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10 doesn't have to mean perfect.

I don't know what 10 means here or in other gaming sites.

Star650

10 means 10 like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 , or 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 mmmm WTF

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#42 foxhound_fox
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Although 10 on GS now doesn't mean "perfect" I would have to agree with you. It seems that the "marking-down-for rehash-syndrome" that GS was so fond of last generation has all but disappeared.
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#43 KungfuKitten
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Although 10 on GS now doesn't mean "perfect" I would have to agree with you. It seems that the "marking-down-for rehash-syndrome" that GS was so fond of last generation has all but disappeared.foxhound_fox

Well it hasn't disappeared for me :P
I have my own mind, and i see right through that score. Any second now.
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#44 Sarge1442
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I really doubt Zero Punctuation is gonna give this a good review
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#45 HuusAsking
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Although 10 on GS now doesn't mean "perfect" I would have to agree with you. It seems that the "marking-down-for rehash-syndrome" that GS was so fond of last generation has all but disappeared.foxhound_fox
You ever thought that the game is a lot more than a rehash. Have you actually played the thing?
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#46 dru26
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Anyone that stayed up all nite playing this game like I did can realize it's one of the best games ever made. Not only is this game a 10, it has nudged it's way to my top 3.
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#47 tmatte
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How can a rehash get a 10? Does not orignality come into the equation when games are reviewed these days?

Only games which deserve a 10 are the ground breaking games as of the likes of - Golden Eye, Zelda, FFVII, GTA, RE, Mario Galaxy, Super Mario World. All of them in comparison had orignality unlike GTA4.

Dibdibdobdobo

It's not a rehash :|

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#48 Fondness
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10 doesn't have to mean perfect.

I don't know what 10 means here or in other gaming sites.

Star650

To me, it does.

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#49 Auroni
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[QUOTE="Star650"]

10 doesn't have to mean perfect.

I don't know what 10 means here or in other gaming sites.

Fondness

To me, it does.


For me, personally, it does too. However, for gaming sites and magazines a 10 is not perfect. Understand and respect it. GTA IV excels in everyway imaginable from San Andreas which most people considered one of the best games ever. GTA IV deserves these great scores even though it has some few problems.
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#50 funnymario
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10 means Prime.

And apparently, GTA4 is prime.