No games on 360 that can touch Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2? Whose at fault?

As we already knew, everybody says that in terms of GPU power 360 are superior than PS3, but in reality does anybody see games on Xbox360 that can match Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 graphics? The answer is NO.

So, thats make me confused, if that's the case, then whose fault it is?

It is the fault of DVD storage? Or it is the fault of Microsoft that can't make first-party developers fully use 360 power?

If we're thinking aboout it, almost all of the best game this generation are PS3 game.

My top 10 best game this generation are:

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) ------------> PS3 Exclusive
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (X360/PS3/PC)
3. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)
4. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) ------------------------------------> Wii Exclusive
5. LittleBigPlanet (PS3) -----------------------------------------> PS3 Exclusive
6. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (X360/PS3/PC)
7. Killzone 2 (PS3) ----------------------------------------------> PS3 Exclusive
8. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360/PS3/PC)
9. The Orange Box (X360/PS3/PC)
10. Fallout 3 (X360/PS3/PC)

See, no 360 exclusive? And all of the game are playable on PS3 except SMG.

Is it really true that 360 power are better than PS3 power? Is it true that developing games on 360 are easier than developing games for PS3? Then, why is no 360 games that can touch Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 graphics?

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

Let's throw development time, funding and talent out the window.

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

Hathesulacon

Bah, none of the game you mentioned are on par with Uncharted in terms of graphics, of course except Crysis

I agree with Hathesulacon,those games really prove xbox 360 has a lot of power.If you look realistic on xbox 360 vs ps3 when comparing gfx you need to know that x360 in generally has more gpu power while ps3 has more cpu power,but that is overly simplified.Console is fusion of hardware,you can have the best cpu or gpu,and "small"(512mb) amount of RAM and you sure wont go long way.That is the only reason why ps3 wont leave xbox360 behind.Now if Sony implanted 512mb of unified memory and gpu like xenos then it would probably leave it behind,but not like xbox left ps2...You have to realize that Sonys selling point is graphics,they put a lot of money in their first party studios to make games to look the best they can,they also have 1gb dev kit,which can save up to 100 mb of ram duo to testing game on it they dont use systems 512 mb for testing.If you know anything about technical aspect of console you should know that ps3 simply cant leave x360 in dust...

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

ihsanqueen

Bah, none of the game you mentioned are on par with Uncharted in terms of graphics, of course except Crysis

I am sorry but Metro 2033 looks better then KZ2,and it is 3rd party...their budget is restricted,but metro 2033s textures effects and lightning >>>KZ2...

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

ihsanqueen

Bah, none of the game you mentioned are on par with Uncharted in terms of graphics, of course except Crysis

If the 360 is indeed comparable to the PS3 power, then talent is obviously the main reason why Microsoft haven't been able to create a beast like UC2 and KZ2. I think Remedy (Alan Wake) is the closest thing Microsoft can offer, to get back in the game.

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

Hathesulacon

im not sure it matters. the sales of 360 hardware and software suggest most are happy with it performance. its only screenshot posting graphics whores whoreally care

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

furomaster_99

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

furomaster_99

im not sure it matters. the sales of 360 hardware and software suggest most are happy with it performance. its only screenshot posting graphics whores whoreally care

wayne_kar

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

im not sure it matters. the sales of 360 hardware and software suggest most are happy with it performance. its only screenshot posting graphics whores whoreally care

HerzogJan

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

im not sure it matters. the sales of 360 hardware and software suggest most are happy with it performance. its only screenshot posting graphics whores whoreally care

HerzogJan

Sure they matter! Im pretty sure most 360 owners are glad that 90% of this gen´s games look and perform better on 360 than on PS3.

the answer is..

money.

Define MONEY.

More Money = OVERpowered Dev with high dedication

Enough Money = "bu bu bu teh PS3 development is expensive" bubububu

you see why now they port Tales Of Vesperia and Star Ocean to PS3 just now

the initial development were paid by MS.

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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

Vadamee

Is someone really AT FAULT because in your opinion the PS3 is better?

Ok cows say "bu bu bu bu lemmings will always say it is because Sony pumps money,it is because of lack of custom engines...and what not".But why when lemms say 90% of multiplats run and look better on x360 why cows say it is because of hard to develop,they dont know how to develop yet on ps3,it is because they are ports(even if some are ps3 ports and still look worse)...The thing is cows are hypocrites,Gears 2 was best looking game till KZ2,did that mean xbox 360 is more powerful,or we should wait for new gamse like Uncharted 2 and KZ2?

the answer is..

money.

Define MONEY.

More Money = OVERpowered Dev with high dedication

Enough Money = "bu bu bu teh PS3 development is expensive" bubububu

you see why now they port Tales Of Vesperia and Star Ocean to PS3 just now

the initial development were paid by MS.

BurnTheSIn

Forza 3,Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5 on the XBOX360 they look better than KZ2.The only game that it look a bit better than any game on the 360 is U2,but again Crysis 2 on 360 it will look better than U2.Alan Wake, Metro 2033,Splinter Cell: Conviction and Halo Reach also they will look the same good like U2.

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

My top 10 best game this generation are:

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) ------------> PS3 Exclusive
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (X360/PS3/PC)
3. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)
4. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) ------------------------------------> Wii Exclusive
5. LittleBigPlanet (PS3) -----------------------------------------> PS3 Exclusive
6. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (X360/PS3/PC)
7. Killzone 2 (PS3) ----------------------------------------------> PS3 Exclusive
8. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360/PS3/PC)
9. The Orange Box (X360/PS3/PC)
10. Fallout 3 (X360/PS3/PC)

See, no 360 exclusive? And all of the game are playable on PS3 except SMG.

Is it really true that 360 power are better than PS3 power? Is it true that developing games on 360 are easier than developing games for PS3? Then, why is no 360 games that can touch Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 graphics?ihsanqueen

Let's throw development time, funding and talent out the window.

Blue-Sky

why the hell do people keep insisting Halo Reach will have mind blowing graphics?

The best on both consoles graphics wise are so close that there is no clear.. ZOMG, one is so much better then the other but just for fun, lets remember that last gen, there was no, absolutely no doubt which console had the ZOMG graphics over the other consoles and yet..... PS3, this gen's Xbox ? :P

I am just going to use Killzone 2 for example. It had about a four year development cycle. I don't think any Xbox 360 game has had that except maybe Alan Wake and from what I hear that game looks as good, if not better, than most recent PS3 exclusives.

lol at te lems desperation listing multiplats, none of those games can look better than killzone 2 or uncharted 2. Ps3 will continue to widen the gap next year with heavy rain and god of war 3, none of these games can be done on the 360, its simply not powerfull enough.ThePsTriple

Sony fanboys like to make it sound that KZ2 and U2 look miles better than anything on 360. In fact they just look a bit better than games like Gears2, AC2 or RE5. There are also a few games this year (also on 360) that i believe will look better than anything on consoles right now like Rage, Crysis2, etc

Sony fanboys like to make it sound that KZ2 and U2 look miles better than anything on 360. In fact they just look a bit better than games like Gears2, AC2 or RE5. There are also a few games this year (also on 360) that i believe will look better than anything on consoles right now like Rage, Crysis2, etc

PAL360

I agree with you,i have play RE5 and KZ2,but RE5 on the XBOX360 look better than KZ2.

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

ihsanqueen

Bah, none of the game you mentioned are on par with Uncharted in terms of graphics, of course except Crysis

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony fanboys like to make it sound that KZ2 and U2 look miles better than anything on 360. In fact they just look a bit better than games like Gears2, AC2 or RE5. There are also a few games this year (also on 360) that i believe will look better than anything on consoles right now like Rage, Crysis2, etc

Panosola

I agree with you,i have play RE5 and KZ2,but RE5 on the XBOX360 look better than KZ2.

RE5 looks good, but it does not look better than Killzone 2.

Forza 3,Gears of War 2 and Resident Evil 5 on the XBOX360 they look better than KZ2.The only game that it look a bit better than any game on the 360 is U2,but again Crysis 2 on 360 it will look better than U2.Alan Wake, Metro 2033,Splinter Cell: Conviction and Halo Reach also they will look the same good like U2.

Panosola

That's only 2 games :?.

Anyway, Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony fanboys like to make it sound that KZ2 and U2 look miles better than anything on 360. In fact they just look a bit better than games like Gears2, AC2 or RE5. There are also a few games this year (also on 360) that i believe will look better than anything on consoles right now like Rage, Crysis2, etc

Panosola

I agree with you,i have play RE5 and KZ2,but RE5 on the XBOX360 look better than KZ2.

I think KZ2 still looks better but the diference is pretty small. Probably the same diference as some 360 vs PS3 multiplats and cows allways say that they are too close for ppl to care :P

Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.ToScA-

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Let's throw development time, funding and talent out the window.

jasonharris48

MS and Sony have produced their games in different ways. MS just released games in the normal way by releasing games at the current level of graphics etc but Sony sold the PS3 as this great power house of a machine so they got their developers to work much longer on games to get the graphics up to a level they where promising their fans.

Killzone 2 had a long development time just to have the best graphics. Yes it did but it isn't that much greater than other games now. Plus they should have spent more time on Killzone gameplay but that just my opinion.

I have said for ages that Alan Wake will be a good comparison to PS3 games as it has had a longer development time to get worked on.

Saying that if your talking power instead of graphics then you have to take into account the gameplay, lighting, number of people on screen etc. A single player game with levels will always have better graphics than a sandbox game with a massive world. I've not seen anyone give a fair comparison on all these issue to work out who has the best power.

Gears of War 2 looks better

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Hathesulacon

Yes they do, but then they get back into line behind those two.

Anywho, I honestly think it's MS fault. Instead of focusing on first/second party titles that would be made only for their system, they have focused on third party multiplats that don't focus on any one system's strengths.