No games on 360 that can touch Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2? Whose at fault?

As we already knew, everybody says that in terms of GPU power 360 are superior than PS3, but in reality does anybody see games on Xbox360 that can match Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 graphics? The answer is NO.

So, thats make me confused, if that's the case, then whose fault it is?

It is the fault of DVD storage? Or it is the fault of Microsoft that can't make first-party developers fully use 360 power?

If we're thinking aboout it, almost all of the best game this generation are PS3 game.

My top 10 best game this generation are:

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) ------------> PS3 Exclusive
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (X360/PS3/PC)
3. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3)
4. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) ------------------------------------> Wii Exclusive
5. LittleBigPlanet (PS3) -----------------------------------------> PS3 Exclusive
6. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (X360/PS3/PC)
7. Killzone 2 (PS3) ----------------------------------------------> PS3 Exclusive
8. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360/PS3/PC)
9. The Orange Box (X360/PS3/PC)
10. Fallout 3 (X360/PS3/PC)

See, no 360 exclusive? And all of the game are playable on PS3 except SMG.

Is it really true that 360 power are better than PS3 power? Is it true that developing games on 360 are easier than developing games for PS3? Then, why is no 360 games that can touch Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 graphics?

ihsanqueen

If you're main concern is graphical fidelity, then why are Mario and Orange Box on your top 10 list?

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.PAL360

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

actually game companies like naughty dog (creator of Uncharted 2) and MGS4 creaters have said that their games is not possible on 360.

360 can't even do 250 players like Mag id be suprised if it's able to get 60 players.

why the hell do people keep insisting Halo Reach will have mind blowing graphics?

CZVA

I'm wondering this also. But moreso, why does 360 have to have games that graphically match or exceed PS3 exclusives?

Gears of War 2 looks better

HermitGTX

here you need to see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Well graphics are open to individual interpretation. To me Gears 2 looks better than Killzone 2 any day. I'm sure there is some technical reason that some people claim KZ2 is better but when I play both games, Gears 2 just looks better to me. The details on the characters are better, the world looks better. The only thing Gears is missing in my opinion is more color in the worlds, but I can live with that, and realistically KZ2 isn't that colorful either.

I'll give Uncharted 2 it's due. It's a great game, and a beautiful game, but only a few months old. To sit and think nothing coming out in the next few months will top it is just crazy. Both systems have alot of power left, and it just takes the right developers to tap that power.

heyyyy everybody look at me I go on the internetz and gripe about consoles that are over four years old yaaayyyyyyyy!!!

y'know what cracks me up is that as soon as the next xbox comes out graphics will once again take a backseat and all we will hear from the ps3 guys is about how library and gameplay are >>>>>>>>>> gfx.

You just know it's coming like a freight train.

Well graphics are open to individual interpretation. To me Gears 2 looks better than Killzone 2 any day. I'm sure there is some technical reason that some people claim KZ2 is better but when I play both games, Gears 2 just looks better to me. The details on the characters are better, the world looks better. The only thing Gears is missing in my opinion is more color in the worlds, but I can live with that, and realistically KZ2 isn't that colorful either.

I'll give Uncharted 2 it's due. It's a great game, and a beautiful game, but only a few months old. To sit and think nothing coming out in the next few months will top it is just crazy. Both systems have alot of power left, and it just takes the right developers to tap that power.

coasterguy65

here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.drakecool1

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

actually game companies like naughty dog (creator of Uncharted 2) and MGS4 creaters have said that their games is not possible on 360.

360 can't even do 250 players like Mag id be suprised if it's able to get 60 players.

Wow. I always get a good laugh at least once a day on these forums. The PSN infrastructure couldn't handle the Halo 3 launch alone. As far as companies owned by Sony, of course they say things like this, it's called marketing. And for Konami, IF, (a link would be nice to backup your claims) they said that about Metal Gear Solid 4 it was probably in reference to having to use multiple DVDs and compressed audio on the 360.

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Well graphics are open to individual interpretation. To me Gears 2 looks better than Killzone 2 any day. I'm sure there is some technical reason that some people claim KZ2 is better but when I play both games, Gears 2 just looks better to me. The details on the characters are better, the world looks better. The only thing Gears is missing in my opinion is more color in the worlds, but I can live with that, and realistically KZ2 isn't that colorful either.

I'll give Uncharted 2 it's due. It's a great game, and a beautiful game, but only a few months old. To sit and think nothing coming out in the next few months will top it is just crazy. Both systems have alot of power left, and it just takes the right developers to tap that power.

drakecool1

here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

yeah exactly...other than the lighting coming in through the skylights Gears looks better.

[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]That's all the lemmings can say..."This game (insert game that isn't out yet) says hi!" I think reality may slap the lemming hard later on this year.

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.PAL360

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.TintedEyes

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

cainetao11

That's fine but your still not doing what the PS3 can.

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]lol at te lems desperation listing multiplats, none of those games can look better than killzone 2 or uncharted 2. Ps3 will continue to widen the gap next year with heavy rain and god of war 3, none of these games can be done on the 360, its simply not powerfull enough.racing1750

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.drakecool1

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

actually game companies like naughty dog (creator of Uncharted 2) and MGS4 creaters have said that their games is not possible on 360.

360 can't even do 250 players like Mag id be suprised if it's able to get 60 players.

You should google Dust514. A game also on 360 with 256 players online and Frontlines a 2 years old 360 game, has 50 players online. Also, its a fact 360 and PS3 are technically similar. Both have better and worse features when compared to the other. But yeah, you are free to believe in what you want ;)

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]Killzone 2 hasn't even been out a year and already people have come to the conclusion that 360 will never produce anything to match. I love SW.TintedEyes

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

The 360's hardware is at fault

[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] Like Blu-Ray?TintedEyes

That's fine but your still not doing what the PS3 can.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

PAL360

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

i would rather play MW2 on the 360 than killzone 2. killzone 2 is terrible. worst game this gen. hell,i would rather play COD world at war for the wii, than play that crap. the graphics are good, but i would rather play something fun, and killzone 2 is not fun. i would rather get a root canal by a blind dentist than play that garbage.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Why get up to put a disc in, I stream HD movies on my Elite. Use my PS3 for Blu ray. But having to get up and do disc work is only a negative when it concerns games using multiple discs, I forgot.cainetao11

That's fine but your still not doing what the PS3 can.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] Like Blu-Ray?TintedEyes

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

Well, games like Assassins Creed 2 look close to it on an incredibly larger scale so i think technically its as impressive if not more. Also what i have seen of Cryengine3 on 360 look better than the best on consoles at the moment.

Well, I'd like to think that MS is bigger on business than anything, which would make them unlikely to fund artsy or unique projects like Heavy Rain or The Last Guardian. They've also been riding high on 360's success in almost the same way as Nintendo and the Wii, so its likely they've been neglecting to really try when a Halo or Gears game now and then will get some sales. Of course, this gave Sony a chance to really try and in the end put MS in a bad spot in regards to quality exclusives and companies. Heck, all they have now is Rare it seems which really pales in comparison to all the studios Sony has in their back pocket and even the internal developers working on Mario and Zelda on the Wii.

Of course I think the longer life of consoles this gen means they can still save face and not be known for their lack of quality devs, they just have to take a few risks and hire some good companies.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] Like Blu-Ray?TintedEyes

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

Gears of War 2 look better than KZ2 imo.......and Crysis 2 on the XBOX360 it look better than U2 and KZ2.

KZ2.......

Gears of War 2..........

[QUOTE="HermitGTX"]

Gears of War 2 looks better

drakecool1

here you need to see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

Some yokel hand selects scenes for comparison and gives his own bias opinion, so what?

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

PAL360

Well, games like Assassins Creed 2 look close to it on an incredibly larger scale so i think technically its as impressive if not more. Also what i have seen of Cryengine3 on 360 look better than the best on consoles at the moment.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] Oh you mean with graphics, but how can you say so confidently that the 360 can do everything the PS3 can when we haven't seen a 360 game that looks as good?TintedEyes

Well, games like Assassins Creed 2 look close to it on an incredibly larger scale so i think technically its as impressive if not more. Also what i have seen of Cryengine3 on 360 look better than the best on consoles at the moment.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Well, games like Assassins Creed 2 look close to it on an incredibly larger scale so i think technically its as impressive if not more. Also what i have seen of Cryengine3 on 360 look better than the best on consoles at the moment.

PAL360

360 can do blue-ray:P

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sony fanboys waited 1+ year for the PS3 and some of them paid $600 for it. Its probably hard for them to accept that 360 can do everything PS3 can :P

cainetao11

Because BD looks and sounds better.

Like Blu-Ray?TintedEyes

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

Hathesulacon

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Let's throw development time, funding and talent out the window.

ToScA-

lol, So, you use your personal top 10 games as evidence of PS3's superiority? That's a new low here. Anyway, the Cell clearly makes up for a lot, and regardless I feel that Gears of War 2 is very near the graphical quality of PS3 games along with some multiplats that are great looking. Plus, 2010 looks like a nice graphical year, along with awesome games, so we shall see. rolo107

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Yeah, Bluray is great but doesnt have nothing to do with graphics.

moose_knuckler

It's ridiculous that nobody cares what the "Gameplay King" is.

[QUOTE="rolo107"]lol, So, you use your personal top 10 games as evidence of PS3's superiority? That's a new low here. Anyway, the Cell clearly makes up for a lot, and regardless I feel that Gears of War 2 is very near the graphical quality of PS3 games along with some multiplats that are great looking. Plus, 2010 looks like a nice graphical year, along with awesome games, so we shall see. supersaiyen

You know what?KZ2 has way more flaws in graphics department...it textures suck so that is covered by blur and alot of postprocessing...sure it is great looking game but not like you cows claim it to be...ps3 only achieves great graphics when game is linear corridor shooter or linear advanture game,fact!Yea also,Uncharted 2 is clearly possible on x360,it is gpu heavy game and please dont say cell will help alot because cell while it can help is very primitive doing gpu work...

It's ridiculous that nobody cares what the "Gameplay King" is.

neildneil

[QUOTE="neildneil"]

It's ridiculous that nobody cares what the "Gameplay King" is.

[QUOTE="supersaiyen"]

[QUOTE="rolo107"]lol, So, you use your personal top 10 games as evidence of PS3's superiority? That's a new low here. Anyway, the Cell clearly makes up for a lot, and regardless I feel that Gears of War 2 is very near the graphical quality of PS3 games along with some multiplats that are great looking. Plus, 2010 looks like a nice graphical year, along with awesome games, so we shall see. Bus-A-Bus

You know what?KZ2 has way more flaws in graphics department...it textures suck so that is covered by blur and alot of postprocessing...sure it is great looking game but not like you cows claim it to be...ps3 only achieves great graphics when game is linear corridor shooter or linear advanture game,fact!Yea also,Uncharted 2 is clearly possible on x360,it is gpu heavy game and please dont say cell will help alot because cell while it can help is very primitive doing gpu work...

[QUOTE="ihsanqueen"]

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

Its not like your biased or anything...But Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach, Possibly Fable 3 and a lot of other games say Hey.

Also, I cant wait until Crysis comes out on consoles so all the cows can cry when a multiplat looks better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 combined.

Bus-A-Bus

Bah, none of the game you mentioned are on par with Uncharted in terms of graphics, of course except Crysis

I am sorry but Metro 2033 looks better then KZ2,and it is 3rd party...their budget is restricted,but metro 2033s textures effects and lightning >>>KZ2...

Im sorry but they havent shown really any real gameplay screens of metro 2033 and for all you know they could be showing pics of the DX11 version running on a $1500 dollar pc. Not to mention people are comparing gamesthat come out later this year for the 360 in hopes that they will beat something that came out on the PS3 early last year. If that alone doenst tell you how much better exclusive Ps3 titles look then 360 games I dont know what else does. I own a PS3 and 360 check my gamertag (TheSterls) there is nothing on the 360 that currently holds a candle to UNC2 or KZ2 and its likely that PS3 games will continue to show massive improvements. I think GOW3 will be the next one that makes everybodys jaw drop.

yes, and last gen xbox had the superior graphics. It didnt matter then so why does it matter now?mtron32

Becauase the PS2 utterly destroyed it in quality titles.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="supersaiyen"]I'm sorry gears 2 has so many flaws in the graphics department it can't even compete hell I even think its not even close to the best that xbox has to offer.

supersaiyen

You know what?KZ2 has way more flaws in graphics department...it textures suck so that is covered by blur and alot of postprocessing...sure it is great looking game but not like you cows claim it to be...ps3 only achieves great graphics when game is linear corridor shooter or linear advanture game,fact!Yea also,Uncharted 2 is clearly possible on x360,it is gpu heavy game and please dont say cell will help alot because cell while it can help is very primitive doing gpu work...

Listen to me brainwashed cow,you dont want me to start talking about technical aspect of games and hardware,that is something you cows are not used to.You people see what you want to see,KZ2 is definitely better looking then anything on x360,but it uses much effects to cover its weak textures,and yes i played it and enjoyed it.Now i will tell you something,there is NO WAY ps3 will leave x360 behind.Xenos is generation ahead of rsx,while cell is better deal then xenon it still needs to be used to help rsx,that is not cheap because cpus are very primitive when it comes to gfx...but even xenon has 3 vmx units that can help xenos with shaders for example.Now ps3 (and x360) lacks system memory,there is only so much you can do when you have 512 mb of ram(62 used for OS) and its bandwidth is also smaller then that of x360,its gpu is also weaker,it has smaller amount of memory.Now when you look at it only thing on ps3 side is cell and that most important,BEST 1st party studios and Sonys money to invest in games,especially graphics...i mean even(even if i dont believe,and rarely anyone who knows anything about hardware belives) if in the end ps3 delivers a bit better gfx its nothing compared to what it was tauted to be...you dont want me to remind you...4d...120fps on dual 1080p...2 times more powerful then x360...:roll: