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#1 navyguy21
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Hey guys, i managed to find the agreement made between R* and MS. In it, it states that the PS3 will not get any DLC of any kind for at about a year, and that the 2 episodes exclusive to the 360 will remain exlusive. Hope this clears thing for everyone. What do you guys think? Discuss........

http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=79192

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6023&Itemid=22

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Hmm. That article revealed something I didn't know up to this point: Microsoft advanced T2 the $50m. If the DLC doesn't sell enough to recoup the $50m, T2 has to pay back the portion that was not recouped.

So Microsoft won't pay anything for the exclusive DLC.

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#3 dave003
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What?! When did this happen!!?
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#4 Zerostatic0
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I think it sucks that the Microsoft episodes will remain exclusive, however GTA IV is not really the type of game that I'd be dying for more single-player content for. But I guess everyone is not like me, I mean the Oblivion expansions were popular and I can't understand why people want extra content for these games that are already enormous. I'd rather be able to download another Halo 3 single-player campaign.
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#5 typevuspecII
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Then what was the point for T2 to make a DLC exclusive to Miscrosoft for? To borrow money to make the DLC and return the money and anything extra is profit and Microsoft in return gets exclusive?
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I think it sucks that the Microsoft episodes will remain exclusive, however GTA IV is not really the type of game that I'd be dying for more single-player content for. But I guess everyone is not like me, I mean the Oblivion expansions were popular and I can't understand why people want extra content for these games that are already enormous. I'd rather be able to download another Halo 3 single-player campaign. Zerostatic0

more of a good thing is never bad. its even better if I can download it for free!

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#7 Always-Honest
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let's hope people will still like to play and pay for extra content... i'm at 60% of the game and it's clear to me that the missions are great, but not very varied.... i'll be DONE with the game when i finish the single player.

If it turns out the DLC is really worth it i might consider buying the 360 version second hand.. but i doubt i will.. new games, new experiences.

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#8 Zerostatic0
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Hmm. That article revealed something I didn't know up to this point: Microsoft advanced T2 the $50m. If the DLC doesn't sell enough to recoup the $50m, T2 has to pay back the portion that was not recouped.

So Microsoft won't pay anything for the exclusive DLC.

UnnDunn
Well you can say the same thing for any game that recoups it's production price. The real winner in the whole thing in my opinion is going to be take-two because I sure as hell know that it is not going to cost them 50 million dollars to make the DLC and with GTA's sales and Xbox live's rabbid online community they should have no trouble making the 50 million dollar mark.
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Then what was the point for T2 to make a DLC exclusive to Miscrosoft for? To borrow money to make the DLC and return the money and anything extra is profit and Microsoft in return gets exclusive?typevuspecII
This time last year, T2 was struggling and strapped for cash, but they knew if they could hold out until GTA4 released, they'd be fine. So when MS approached them with a fat cash advance in exchange for the exclusive, of course they jumped at it.
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#10 UnnDunn
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Hmm. That article revealed something I didn't know up to this point: Microsoft advanced T2 the $50m. If the DLC doesn't sell enough to recoup the $50m, T2 has to pay back the portion that was not recouped.

So Microsoft won't pay anything for the exclusive DLC.

Zerostatic0
Well you can say the same thing for any game that recoups it's production price. The real winner in the whole thing in my opinion is going to be take-two because I sure as hell know that it is not going to cost them 50 million dollars to make the DLC and with GTA's sales and Xbox live's rabbid online community they should have no trouble making the 50 million dollar mark.

No, the real winner is Microsoft. When all is said and done, it gets to take a significant feather away from Sony's cap without paying a dime. T2 comes out behind because it can no-longer sell this content to PS3 owners, so it loses some revenue there.
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#11 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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Alright its for Exclusive content who knows R* might make the same for the sony console instead

Bah what do i know im no buisnessman and neither are 98% of the people here either i just so happen to understand enough

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#12 donwoogie
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Yup, seen this article before. the 2nd DLC pack was pitched for, at the latest, Q1 2009, but that was a while ago, which means Rockstar will not begin any work on any more possible DLC packs til that point.
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[QUOTE="typevuspecII"]Then what was the point for T2 to make a DLC exclusive to Miscrosoft for? To borrow money to make the DLC and return the money and anything extra is profit and Microsoft in return gets exclusive?UnnDunn
This time last year, T2 was struggling and strapped for cash, but they knew if they could hold out until GTA4 released, they'd be fine. So when MS approached them with a fat cash advance in exchange for the exclusive, of course they jumped at it.

To be honest, i think thats why GTA IV is missing so much that the last games had, so they can have some significant things to add thru DLC, which its really unfair to PS3 owners if true

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I beat the game (both endings). Havn't finished it 100% yet but I won't be wanting any DLC :?
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#15 ONLYDOD
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Meh, lots of good PS3 exclusives coming out. No need for GTA DLC.

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Then what was the point for T2 to make a DLC exclusive to Miscrosoft for? To borrow money to make the DLC and return the money and anything extra is profit and Microsoft in return gets exclusive?typevuspecII

They probably needed the cash, T2 has been losing money for a while (untill GTA4 of course). THats why EA is trying to buy them out.

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Hmm. That article revealed something I didn't know up to this point: Microsoft advanced T2 the $50m. If the DLC doesn't sell enough to recoup the $50m, T2 has to pay back the portion that was not recouped.

So Microsoft won't pay anything for the exclusive DLC.

UnnDunn
That money will be recouped the day the DLC is released.
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Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

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Then what was the point for T2 to make a DLC exclusive to Miscrosoft for? To borrow money to make the DLC and return the money and anything extra is profit and Microsoft in return gets exclusive?typevuspecII
At the point the deal was made T2 was in trouble and needed money. MS made a good buisness choice.
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Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

PS_John

Moo ??

Wow, i hate the fact that i have the oppertunity to buy dlc for a AAAA game. :roll:

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#21 navyguy21
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Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

PS_John

yes, but remember its 2 episodes, if it is $10(which it probably will be) then only 2.5mil will have to purchase each pack, which i think is easily done on XBL

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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

angelkimne

Moo ??

Wow, i hate the fact that i have the oppertunity to buy dlc for a AAAA game. :roll:

Who wants to play GTA4 again when you beat it, by then other games will be out, that $10 can to towards another game.

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What this proves is that MS really are shrewd business people. This was almost as genius as when they settled the case against them for rumble technology, and bought shares of the company (which was basically a business loan). Then they get some of the money when the stock goes up after winning the suit against Sony.

Ms has been making Sony their *itch for a little while now.

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#24 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

CubanBlunt

Moo ??

Wow, i hate the fact that i have the oppertunity to buy dlc for a AAAA game. :roll:

Who wants to play GTA4 again when you beat it, by then other games will be out, that $10 can to towards another game.

Because its fun to play ????

Thats like say why buy GTA 4 in the first place and use that $50 to buy a game later.Becasue itsa really fun game to play. So new missions and places to visit will be fun. And thats why most of us play videogames, FUN

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Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

PS_John

you would rather "not have no option" to buy it? double negative FTW.

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[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

angelkimne

Moo ??

Wow, i hate the fact that i have the oppertunity to buy dlc for a AAAA game. :roll:

Who wants to play GTA4 again when you beat it, by then other games will be out, that $10 can to towards another game.

Because its fun to play ????

Thats like say why buy GTA 4 in the first place and use that $50 to buy a game later.Becasue itsa really fun game to play. So new missions and places to visit will be fun. And thats why most of us play videogames, FUN

I just finished the game and I would love to have to chance for more missions, some where a blast.

Favorites:

1. Bank Heist (Green Leaf Clover?)

2. Funeral, awesome!

hm, I should stop because I though 70% of the missions were great!

Point is, $10 for more content and storyline will be well worth it till GTA5.

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jus wait
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Hey guys, i managed to find the agreement made between R* and MS. In it, it states that the PS3 will not get any DLC of any kind for at about a year, and that the 2 episodes exclusive to the 360 will remain exlusive. Hope this clears thing for everyone. What do you guys think? Discuss........

http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=79192

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6023&Itemid=22

navyguy21

Oh cool, maybe after a year i want play GTA IV again then.

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#29 UnnDunn
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Hmm. That article revealed something I didn't know up to this point: Microsoft advanced T2 the $50m. If the DLC doesn't sell enough to recoup the $50m, T2 has to pay back the portion that was not recouped.

So Microsoft won't pay anything for the exclusive DLC.

DisPimpin
That money will be recouped the day the DLC is released.

I think that remains to be seen (though I want to agree with you.)
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#30 UnnDunn
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[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]

Hmm. That article revealed something I didn't know up to this point: Microsoft advanced T2 the $50m. If the DLC doesn't sell enough to recoup the $50m, T2 has to pay back the portion that was not recouped.

So Microsoft won't pay anything for the exclusive DLC.

DisPimpin
That money will be recouped the day the DLC is released.

I think that remains to be seen (though I want to agree with you.)
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

angelkimne

Moo ??

Wow, i hate the fact that i have the oppertunity to buy dlc for a AAAA game. :roll:

No doubt. Suggesting otherwise is a bold faced lie. Who the hell wants to have the option to purchase more content ( and its very reasonable to assume it will be substantial) for a AAAA game? Thats crazy. I would rather not......

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Here's one for you to chew on.

Cows are ok to pay for a long Demo of THE SAME GAME they will purchase for full price LATER (just wait) which is GT P.

But when it comes to extra content for a AAA game they say its pointless and there will be other games and your being milked.

Would you rather pay twice for the same content, or a small fee for extra content on a great FULL game?

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What this proves is that MS really are shrewd business people. This was almost as genius as when they settled the case against them for rumble technology, and bought shares of the company (which was basically a business loan). Then they get some of the money when the stock goes up after winning the suit against Sony.

Ms has been making Sony their *itch for a little while now.

TBoogy

It was a good call by MS for sure to take the plunge and make a deal like this.

When the DLC hits the tin foil hats will be talking about how MS purchased reviews for both the stock game and the DLC, just to justify their move.

We are never going to hear the end of this.

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Here's one for you to chew on.

Cows are ok to pay for a long Demo of THE SAME GAME they will purchase for full price LATER (just wait) which is GT P.

But when it comes to extra content for a AAA game they say its pointless and there will be other games and your being milked.

Would you rather pay twice for the same content, or a small fee for extra content on a great FULL game?

Deevoshun

You have a great point there, but you do know facts and common sense is like kryptonite to the Superfanboy!!!!

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[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

Here's one for you to chew on.

Cows are ok to pay for a long Demo of THE SAME GAME they will purchase for full price LATER (just wait) which is GT P.

But when it comes to extra content for a AAA game they say its pointless and there will be other games and your being milked.

Would you rather pay twice for the same content, or a small fee for extra content on a great FULL game?

navyguy21

You have a great point there, buy you do know facts and common sense is like kryptonite to the Superfanboy!!!!

indeed. never looked at it that way

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#36 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

Here's one for you to chew on.

Cows are ok to pay for a long Demo of THE SAME GAME they will purchase for full price LATER (just wait) which is GT P.

But when it comes to extra content for a AAA game they say its pointless and there will be other games and your being milked.

Would you rather pay twice for the same content, or a small fee for extra content on a great FULL game?

navyguy21

You have a great point there, buy you do know facts and common sense is like kryptonite to the Superfanboy!!!!

Ya I have to agree that is a good point.
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meh I don't really care. Its enough game for me already. I wamnt to play other games aswell
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could care less,my gta is already collecting dust.

gta4 sucks.

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Here's one for you to chew on.

Cows are ok to pay for a long Demo of THE SAME GAME they will purchase for full price LATER (just wait) which is GT P.

But when it comes to extra content for a AAA game they say its pointless and there will be other games and your being milked.

Would you rather pay twice for the same content, or a small fee for extra content on a great FULL game?

Deevoshun
Bravo! You nailed the point! Great post! Full of facts that even a fanboy can't deny!
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#40 angelkimne
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could care less,my gta is already collecting dust.

gta4 sucks.

killzowned24

But it would be deserving of AAAA if it was a ps3 exclusive right ???

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#41 thrones
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Probably not. I mean, Microsoft did pay 50$ million.
[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

could care less,my gta is already collecting dust.

gta4 sucks.

angelkimne

But it would be deserving of AAAA if it was a ps3 exclusive right ???

You see alot of X360 fans bashing the game as well you know.

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#42 angelkimne
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Probably not. I mean, Microsoft did pay 50$ million.[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

could care less,my gta is already collecting dust.

gta4 sucks.

thrones

But it would be deserving of AAAA if it was a ps3 exclusive right ???

You see alot of X360 fans bashing the game as well you know.

I know but hes a known rabid cow

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I'll probably get the DLC I want to tie off some of the loose ends.
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#44 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"]Probably not. I mean, Microsoft did pay 50$ million.[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

could care less,my gta is already collecting dust.

gta4 sucks.

angelkimne

But it would be deserving of AAAA if it was a ps3 exclusive right ???

You see alot of X360 fans bashing the game as well you know.

I know but hes a known rabid cow

I would never have figured that from 'Killzowned' :D :D

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[QUOTE="Deevoshun"]

Here's one for you to chew on.

Cows are ok to pay for a long Demo of THE SAME GAME they will purchase for full price LATER (just wait) which is GT P.

But when it comes to extra content for a AAA game they say its pointless and there will be other games and your being milked.

Would you rather pay twice for the same content, or a small fee for extra content on a great FULL game?

navyguy21

You have a great point there, but you do know facts and common sense is like kryptonite to the Superfanboy!!!!


Nice analogy there :lol:
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#46 river_rat3117
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ohh well. if i cared enough id buy the 360 vesion. but seriously with MGS4 coming out soon, and then resistance2, GeOW2, and last but FAR from least SOCOM. i wont have time for gta anymore when the DLC comes out.
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#47 tmntPunchout
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Pretty interesting.. Hopefully enough people will still be into the game once the DLC comes out or hopefully it will influence enough people who stopped playing it to come back and dl/play the DLC.
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#48 SeanBond
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Who cares about DLC id rather not have no option to buy it than to be milked at every opportunity by my very own console manufacturer

Say the DLC is $10 does that mean 5,000,000 have to buy the dlc to reach the $50m mark?

PS_John

Assuming I'm correctly reading your comment, you're saying you'd rather not have the option to buy something? Why is that? Options are great; I've got a Wii, and while Nintendo hasn't released anything on the Virtual Console that has appealed to me in a long time, I'm happy that if I wanted to, I could drop a few bucks on a game. The same goes for DLC; whether or not I choose to buy it, I'd rather have the option if I'm bored some day. Maybe you're not like me, but every once in a while, I like to go back and play my old games. Imagine wanting to play GTAIV in two years, and then thinking, "well...I played that game to death, so unfortunately there's nothing for me to do". Now imagine having the ability to drop (let's say) $10 on DLC for the game, so that if you want to go back and play it in 2 years, it'll be something brand new.

I'm not condoning milking on the consoles; personally, I could do without videogaming being as expensive as it is. However, I've yet to see an instance where MS (or anyone else) has forced me to buy anything, so I can't really complain if they allow me to choose whether or not to get some new content for one of my games.

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#49 flatline711
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

could care less,my gta is already collecting dust.

gta4 sucks.

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But it would be deserving of AAAA if it was a ps3 exclusive right ???

Of course

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#50 SpruceCaboose
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Then what was the point for T2 to make a DLC exclusive to Miscrosoft for? To borrow money to make the DLC and return the money and anything extra is profit and Microsoft in return gets exclusive?typevuspecII

They needed extra money for development and so that they could resist EA's buyout while finalizing GTA IV would be my guesses.