No HDD burden increses, M$ to "degrade" 360 games.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161942

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

Did you even read the article? They aren't doing anything, these policies aren't final, here, let me help you with your own post, this was also in that article:

"These policies are still in flux, however. Lewis emphasized this is a flowing process, and Microsoft's own official policies aren't entirely nailed down yet. The server-based official guildines have been drafted, but not approved, but they're targeting the first half of 2008 for XDK support of the hard drive space requirement. "There will be some teething pains, because I'm sure we got some things wrong," says Lewis. "

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

dracolich666

You're taking this out of context. The point of the article is that Microsoft is approving that MMO's CAN REQUIRE THE HARD DRIVE to be played. The article goes on to say that without a hard drive, MMO's would not work well on the 360. That is why Microsoft is allowing MMO producers to require users to own the hard drive in order to play. Here are the paragraphs prior to the statement you quoted:

"In an unsurprising move (and already a precedent set by Final Fantasy XI, but ignored since), Microsoft confirmed at its Gamefest 2007 that studios working on server-based titles for Xbox 360 are allowed to require the hard drive for their games to run. Games allowed to participate in server-based's "bent rules" is decided on a case-by-case basis.

Microsoft will be asking developers to come up with a set amount of hard drive space to set aside for each game. For example, if World of Warcraft came to Xbox 360, Blizzard would have to tell Microsoft "the game's going to need 4GB of space," even if the game won't necessary install 4GB of content at the start.

"We can't guess how much space you're going to need for your updates, and, if anything's going to keep you from expanding indefinitely, it won't be us, as much as market forces," said Ian Lewis, software design engineer at Microsoft. "Feel free to require 30GB for your game; that's just going to make your potential audience a lot smaller.""

As more and more users buy 360's with hard drives this really won't be much of an issue (it looks more and more like Cores are being phased out of the market). In fact, I think ina year or two there will be a bunch of games that require a hard drive and this will just propel sales of hard drive bundles. Imagine if World of Warcraft, for example, came to the 360 and was bundled with a 120 GIG hard drive as an option (of course the game could be sold separately as well). A lot of non-hard drive owners would gladly pay for such a peripheral.

[QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

SoFreeSoNew12

It's sad that you own a PC yet you support the 360, when they both have basically the same game, and the PC version being superior all the time. That's close minded fanboys for you.

Smart hermits know better than to support the stripped down PC known as the 360.

Wow. Im a closeminded fanboy because I own a 360 and a PC now?

Sorry if I want to play Chromehounds, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Dead Rising, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata. Jeez, what was I thinking???

Did you even read the article? They aren't doing anything, these policies aren't final, here, let me help you with your own post, this was also in that article:

"These policies are still in flux, however. Lewis emphasized this is a flowing process, and Microsoft's own official policies aren't entirely nailed down yet. The server-based official guildines have been drafted, but not approved, but they're targeting the first half of 2008 for XDK support of the hard drive space requirement. "There will be some teething pains, because I'm sure we got some things wrong," says Lewis. "

Nagidar

They aren't final, but they are obviously taking them seriously them. Only fanboys can't see that no standard HDD is a burden.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Did you even read the article? They aren't doing anything, these policies aren't final, here, let me help you with your own post, this was also in that article:

"These policies are still in flux, however. Lewis emphasized this is a flowing process, and Microsoft's own official policies aren't entirely nailed down yet. The server-based official guildines have been drafted, but not approved, but they're targeting the first half of 2008 for XDK support of the hard drive space requirement. "There will be some teething pains, because I'm sure we got some things wrong," says Lewis. "

loco145

They aren't final, but they are obviously taking them seriously them. Only fanboys can't see that no standard HDD is a burden.

I agree, the 360 should have a standard HDD, but my point was, you made it sound like they were already in the makings of doing downgrades, which is false, you picked the part of the article that fit your post but left out the rest. BTW, I don't think the lack of HDD will even be an issue, no one I know even owns a core, its like they're being phased out like someone else pointed out.

[QUOTE="SoFreeSoNew12"][QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

TheCrazed420

It's sad that you own a PC yet you support the 360, when they both have basically the same game, and the PC version being superior all the time. That's close minded fanboys for you.

Smart hermits know better than to support the stripped down PC known as the 360.

Wow. Im a closeminded fanboy because I own a 360 and a PC now?

Sorry if I want to play Chromehounds, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Dead Rising, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata. Jeez, what was I thinking???

I have both a PC and a 360 and I play my 360 far more often for the simple reason that there are way more games in a much wider variety available. How many good games are released for the PC on a yearly basis? Maybe 10 or so, and at least 5 of them are RTS, which just isn't my favorite type of game. Plus, I never have to upgrade my 360 in order to get games to run well on it. I love sports, action, shooter, and other kinds of games that come to consoles first and often never come to the PC at all.

I suppose if you love RTS and FPS games and that's it, then the PC might be the way to go, and that's if you want to spend as much on your video card as I did on my 360. Otherwise, the 360 is the perfect (and much cheaper) solution.

[QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

GarchomPro

Smart hermits know better than to support the stripped down PC known as the 360.

SoFreeSoNew12

hahahahaha. So i guess ima get halo 3, lost odyssey, mass effect, and too human on PC? I like good games, not a blu-ray player with flops.

[QUOTE="TheCrazed420"][QUOTE="SoFreeSoNew12"][QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

zidura

It's sad that you own a PC yet you support the 360, when they both have basically the same game, and the PC version being superior all the time. That's close minded fanboys for you.

Smart hermits know better than to support the stripped down PC known as the 360.

Wow. Im a closeminded fanboy because I own a 360 and a PC now?

Sorry if I want to play Chromehounds, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Dead Rising, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata. Jeez, what was I thinking???

I have both a PC and a 360 and I play my 360 far more often for the simple reason that there are way more games in a much wider variety available. How many good games are released for the PC on a yearly basis? Maybe 10 or so, and at least 5 of them are RTS, which just isn't my favorite type of game. Plus, I never have to upgrade my 360 in order to get games to run well on it. I love sports, action, shooter, and other kinds of games that come to consoles first and often never come to the PC at all.

I suppose if you love RTS and FPS games and that's it, then the PC might be the way to go, and that's if you want to spend as much on your video card as I did on my 360. Otherwise, the 360 is the perfect (and much cheaper) solution.

Hmm, I disagree with you too. The PC has the most games I want on a consistent basis every year.

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

dracolich666

yeah and some times it takes up to a minute for the textures to load on some levels and you get those placeholder textures in GeoW. Good job. I have not seen too many screens of ME that were not conversations between 2 people. I would hope that they would make 2-4 relatively static characters on screen look good. The gameplay looks ok but nothing mind blowing.

And before someone says oblivion that game was repetiive to the extreme. Try varying the textures a bit. Every cave/oblivion gate looked the same.

[QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

GarchomPro

I canplay it without one. Whats the big deal?

OMG TEH 360 DOESN'T HAVE STANDARD HDD IT TEH FAILS!!!!1!

Shut the hell up already. Wanna be hermits always bragging about their imaginary system specs.

[QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

SoFreeSoNew12

It's sad that you own a PC yet you support the 360, when they both have basically the same game, and the PC version being superior all the time. That's close minded fanboys for you.

Smart hermits know better than to support the stripped down PC known as the 360.

Hmmm, this seems to be a recurring theme with you. You have relatively few post, but most bash the 360 in praise of the PC. Got you and I am already bored.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Did you even read the article? They aren't doing anything, these policies aren't final, here, let me help you with your own post, this was also in that article:

"These policies are still in flux, however. Lewis emphasized this is a flowing process, and Microsoft's own official policies aren't entirely nailed down yet. The server-based official guildines have been drafted, but not approved, but they're targeting the first half of 2008 for XDK support of the hard drive space requirement. "There will be some teething pains, because I'm sure we got some things wrong," says Lewis. "

loco145

They aren't final, but they are obviously taking them seriously them. Only fanboys can't see that no standard HDD is a burden.

Would MMORPG games be possible without a HDD? I think not. PS2 required a HDD too for FF XI.

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

dracolich666

[QUOTE="zidura"][QUOTE="TheCrazed420"][QUOTE="SoFreeSoNew12"][QUOTE="dracolich666"]

Gears doesnt need a HDD cept for online. TCHBO. 2048x2048 normal maps are low res? :lol:

O yeah bioshock looks the best out of any game and it can be played on the core. TCHBO x2

TheCrazed420

It's sad that you own a PC yet you support the 360, when they both have basically the same game, and the PC version being superior all the time. That's close minded fanboys for you.

Smart hermits know better than to support the stripped down PC known as the 360.

Wow. Im a closeminded fanboy because I own a 360 and a PC now?

Sorry if I want to play Chromehounds, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Dead Rising, Lost Odyssey, Too Human, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata. Jeez, what was I thinking???

I have both a PC and a 360 and I play my 360 far more often for the simple reason that there are way more games in a much wider variety available. How many good games are released for the PC on a yearly basis? Maybe 10 or so, and at least 5 of them are RTS, which just isn't my favorite type of game. Plus, I never have to upgrade my 360 in order to get games to run well on it. I love sports, action, shooter, and other kinds of games that come to consoles first and often never come to the PC at all.

I suppose if you love RTS and FPS games and that's it, then the PC might be the way to go, and that's if you want to spend as much on your video card as I did on my 360. Otherwise, the 360 is the perfect (and much cheaper) solution.

Hmm, I disagree with you too. The PC has the most games I want on a consistent basis every year.

Good for you -- but you're missing the point. For the types of games I like, the 360 has more and a greater variety. If you like RTS games and other PC-centric games, then you're right, PC is a better choice. So there's nothing to disagree with here. You like PC games, I prefer 360 games. Of course you should get a PC and I should get a 360 then (although I have both, I just use my PC for web stuff now basically).