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I really do hope its varied and challenging. If its just some simplistic running around in copy pasted planets it'll be a huge disappointment. If it good, its probably gonna be the game that pulls me from dark souls 3.
That's great news they all seem so happy after their hard work. Can't decide which one I'll get though PC or PS4.
Diversity is great, awesome for space sim fans...there are so many games coming out this fall there's no reason to be upset about any game even if it's not your cup of tea (most likely wouldn't be for me).
I am hyped for Nioh, KOF XIV, Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian and World of Final Fantasy...fvck I won't even be able to get all the games I want much less one that I never had much interest in but seems to be something for everyone this holiday.
@Shewgenja: LOL That's a great pic. Certainly interested to see how this is received but I committed money to Deus Ex and Recore already so I wont be able to afford NMS on release. Hope its great for you guys.
I hope your games are great too. I think NMS is going to eat me alive like an MMO. So, yeah.
@Shewgenja: LOL That's a great pic. Certainly interested to see how this is received but I committed money to Deus Ex and Recore already so I wont be able to afford NMS on release. Hope its great for you guys.
I hope your games are great too. I think NMS is going to eat me alive like an MMO. So, yeah.
You getting Deus Ex? I recently replayed Human Rev to get all pumped for next month. Amazing how my hype for it has increased recently.
It looks like a budget title, the graphics are f***ing awful and the premise of the game is something the devs choose to keep hidden because they don't actually know themselves.
Can't wait for the backlash when this game is released. No Man's Sky OMG you can explore computer randomised areas with no personality and really bad graphics how cool is that? lol.
I hope this game proves that space sim games don't need to be so sim heavy.
Its not a space sim
How you figure that? It's well within the confines of the space sim genre. Being a "sim" doesn't necessitate it strive to achieve utmost realism.
If that the case BF is a military sim and so is world of warplane
I hope this game proves that space sim games don't need to be so sim heavy.
Its not a space sim
How you figure that? It's well within the confines of the space sim genre. Being a "sim" doesn't necessitate it strive to achieve utmost realism.
If that the case BF is a military sim and so is world of warplane
"space sims" as a genre has existed and has been referred to as such for decades, and they include everything from realism heavy games to casualized space flight games. Sometimes they're just called "space sims", sometimes "space flight sims" or "space combat sims". It's a genre label that's been referred to and reinforced by the gaming community and is widely established nomenclature. It includes realism heavy games like Star Citizens or more casualized experiences like X-Wing / Tie Fighter, Wing Commander, Colony Wars.
And no, there's no equivalency of calling BF a military sim because that isn't something anybody ever says when referring to video games.
I don't even know if you're trolling, or just a genre nazi (like those people are like "Dead Space isn't survival for because durrrrrr"). But you gotta make a better case about why No Man's Sky doesn't qualify under the established gaming genre of "space sim" without redefining the entire genre to date.
Its not a space sim
How you figure that? It's well within the confines of the space sim genre. Being a "sim" doesn't necessitate it strive to achieve utmost realism.
If that the case BF is a military sim and so is world of warplane
"space sims" as a genre has existed and has been referred to as such for decades, and they include everything from realism heavy games to casualized space flight games. Sometimes they're just called "space sims", sometimes "space flight sims" or "space combat sims". It's a genre label that's been referred to and reinforced by the gaming community and is widely established nomenclature. It includes realism heavy games like Star Citizens or more casualized experiences like X-Wing / Tie Fighter, Wing Commander, Colony Wars.
And no, there's no equivalency of calling BF a military sim because that isn't something anybody ever says when referring to video games.
I don't even know if you're trolling, or just a genre nazi (like those people are like "Dead Space isn't survival for because durrrrrr"). But you gotta make a better case about why No Man's Sky doesn't qualify under the established gaming genre of "space sim" without redefining the entire genre to date.
Well let's look at what a sim game is "Simulation games are those video or computer games that are concerned with playing out realistic situations in game settings". Does NMS have anything that remotely falls under that because it doesn't even have a newtonian physics based model, just because their are people who say it is something does not make it entirely true.
Well let's look at what a sim game is "Simulation games are those video or computer games that are concerned with playing out realistic situations in game settings". Does NMS have anything that remotely falls under that because it doesn't even have a newtonian physics based model, just because their are people who say it is something does not make it entirely true.
but it's not a "sim", it's a "space sim", two separate words creating one signifier, just like "console exclusive" is not an "exclusive", or hot dogs are not dogs, language is a living thing and meaning is reinforced by the those who speak it, as far as the language of gaming is concerned, No Man's Sky qualifies as a space sim
you're not going to redefine a well established genre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_flight_simulator_games
This and street fighter are the only games l'm jealous of. I hope sometime in the future this comes to Xbox
This and street fighter are the only games l'm jealous of. I hope sometime in the future this comes to Xbox
I wish that someday, people would take the $60 they spend on Live every year and just run an HDMI cord from their computer to their TV to play the games they wish they were missing out on. It's not like they don't already have the controller they want to play the game with, anyways.
Well let's look at what a sim game is "Simulation games are those video or computer games that are concerned with playing out realistic situations in game settings". Does NMS have anything that remotely falls under that because it doesn't even have a newtonian physics based model, just because their are people who say it is something does not make it entirely true.
but it's not a "sim", it's a "space sim", two separate words creating one signifier, just like "console exclusive" is not an "exclusive", or hot dogs are not dogs, language is a living thing and meaning is reinforced by the those who speak it, as far as the language of gaming is concerned, No Man's Sky qualifies as a space sim
you're not going to redefine a well established genre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_flight_simulator_games
According to SW guidelines there no such thing as a console exclusive and really Wikipedia it even put Homeworld as a space combat game so its a sim too including Empire at War and Battlefront.
@blueeyedcasva: you're still no closer delegitimizing the space sim genre
Again NMS doesn't have anything that would consider it a simulation by most definition so it doesn't matter if it has the word "space" in the front when it only specifies the theme of the game . Also you didn't legitimize anything by putting a wikipedia source where it list games like Homeworld which would never be consider space sim.
@blueeyedcasva: I believe @Cloud_imperium brought up some pretty good points on why NMS wasn't a space sim when people were debating on what was consider a sim .
@blueeyedcasva
Space sims come in all shapes and sizes, I wouldn't by itself consider Battlefront to be a space sim but rather to have elements of it, space combat sims are historically casualized experiences and Battlefront's air/space battles are very much that, which is why it was probably included, many games do jump boundaries of established genres and it happens all the time. Homeworld though even raises an eyebrow with me and even I'd have to draw a line there though myself as its gameplay design is almost entirely rooted in RTS genre characteristics. I defend No Man's Sky as its elements through and through are all mainly rooted in the space sim genre.
Not all sim games have to be based in realism heavy gameplay, rather that is a subgenre of the space sim umbrella, many space sims offer more casualized experiences and have for years, by Wikipedia's own definition a space sim is merely a game which "that lets players experience space flight". It's a little too vague sure but I argue nonetheless that the game still shares many traditional and modern characteristics of the space sim genre as it's stood for years. Undoubtedly the casual space combat as it has existed since the days of Wing Commander, X-Wing and Tie Fighter games, or Colony Wars series, in their easily accessible gameplay, their portrayal of space flight as mere superficial aesthetic. Though those games differ in mainly players were given mission scenarios, No Man's Sky takes aspects of some of the more the realism heavy space sims in their open procedurally generated worlds, or freedom to explore, the ability to join factions, and supposedly will have elements MMO elements seen in modern space sims, they're mining and resource gathering, trading, its very own fictitious science system and the goal of discovering the origins of the universe. It'll also be incorporating VR for a more immersive experience. Those are all good enough things to deem other space sims as such. In many ways incorporating these modern aspects of space sims with the older causal aspects help make the genre more accessible, as it was long considered a dying genre, or in many ways a non-viable genre outside of PC gaming. It is also considered to be among the modern resurgence of space sim games, from such games such as Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, Eve Valkyrie, Everspace, Space Engineers, Kerbal Space Program.
It is still very much a space sim in many of the elements of the genre. Again, I think you're being way too literal and thing "sim" being in "space sim" means it has to be rooted in outright realism. You're maybe the only person I've seen try to argue otherwise. Is it casual? Sure, if that's your hiccup of embracing that and only that as a space sim then you'll always find solace with the few other genre nazis out there. But the label of space sim has for decades and will continue to be used to refer to games like this, whether you agree with it or not.
I'll keep an eye on it and hope it ends up being good. The premise is really interesting but I'm skeptical about the actual gameplay.
I'm keeping an open mind. Hope this game is good because it has potential. Unfortunately I expect it to receive great scores and then one week later people will be questioning those review scores because they found the game too shallow after few hours.
Spore Man's Sky. lol
Serially, would like to give it a whirl but I'll wait for the definitive Scorpio version. :P
I want this to be good but am not optimistic. This is one of those that will either be mind blowing or get boring very quickly.
incoming flop!
Like seriously, after you visit a couple planets, within the first 5 minutes of the game you'd feel like you have already experienced it all. I dont like how fast one can hop into a craft and reach into space. It just looks so fake . Like you dont even see a proper engine start sequence, You dont see any realistic atmospheric to non atmospheric transitions. Its just one big mess.
This game will be exposed come release date, and we will all see why sean was thinking of canceling it.
This game isn't going anywhere dude. It's going to have a huge opening and super long legs.
Gamers want variety, they don't want another titanfall or call of duty.
They want no man's sky they want fresh games with unique idea's and exploration. They want to be excited.
Nobody wants to play the same crap every generation.
This is it this is our asteroids this is something different then a shooter or pacman
THIS IS BIG this like Mario Bros. big, it's some variety, this is a big hit boys. How do I invest in this game I wish they were taking investors.
It really wont be
Procedurally generated to me can be fun as long as there is a persistent progression system within the game. Kind of like how Rogue-like games work.
@Shewgenja: I dont want to be rude , but i dont get why many of you are THAT excited ... Game looks ok , what you do in game looks ... decent at best , graphics are decent ... pace is decent , exploration seems good but nothing extraordinary.
I really dont get it , but hey. If you like what you see , fine by me.
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