No matter what rare does the fanboys will keep it up

rare has lost great talent but they still make great games. not as good since n64 gameswavebrid

Viva Pinata.

So you're saying PDZ, Conker, and Viva Pinata are up to par with Rare's previous works? (Donkey Kong Country, DK64, Banjo series, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark)Basinboy

Banjo threeie and Killer Instinct 3 could get a 10.0 and sell 5 million copies and the Sheep and cows will still talk about how rare isnt the same old rare


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supermechakirby

sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$sexy_luigi

And once again we bring the evil M$ argument.

sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$sexy_luigi

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$ZeldaMaster32

And once again we bring the evil M$ argument.

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[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$-KinGz-

And once again we bring the evil M$ argument.

[QUOTE="-KinGz-"][QUOTE="ZeldaMaster32"]

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$sexy_luigi

And once again we bring the evil M$ argument.

Then prepare to eat your words. The entire, original Banjo team is working on Threeie with the exception of the Stamper Brothers.

[QUOTE="supermechakirby"]Banjo threeie and Killer Instinct 3 could get a 10.0 and sell 5 million copies and the Sheep and cows will still talk about how rare isnt the same old rare


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Svarthek

You can stop saying it now. No matter what you may think, PDZ, Kameo and Viva Pinata are the best games Rare have made, standards are so much higher than back then. Rares games rocked on the N64 because they were great for their time, play them now against the new ones and they seem really crap.

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]So you're saying PDZ, Conker, and Viva Pinata are up to par with Rare's previous works? (Donkey Kong Country, DK64, Banjo series, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark)-KinGz-

That, in my opinion, is more or less the current complaint.  I mean, I did purchase PDZ when the 360 launched, but was sorely disappointed as I felt it did nothing original and felt very clunky, slow, and the overall presentation was a disaster.  Meanwhile, online had its moments, but just didn't feel natural.  I won't lie and condemn Viva Pinata, as I find it much more engaging than the likes of Kameo, but can I really say that Viva Pinata is better than Goldeneye, or Banjo Kazooie?  Plus with the founders of Rare defecting and starting up their own studios again, I've just lost my enthusiasm for the company.  I mean, whatever happens will happen with them, whether they make great games or not, but I just don't have the same level of commitment that I once did back in the day with the N64.  It's a shame, but Rare is suffering from an outlash of poor product quality mainly because their expectations are set so high.  Now, either Rare has to do something to lower those expectations, or MS has got to get them back on track since they were the ones who caused them to tumble in the first place. 

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="-KinGz-"][QUOTE="ZeldaMaster32"]

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$ZeldaMaster32

And once again we bring the evil M$ argument.

Then prepare to eat your words. The entire, original Banjo team is working on Threeie with the exception of the Stamper Brothers.

sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$sexy_luigi

sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$sexy_luigi

Banjo threeie and Killer Instinct 3 could get a 10.0 and sell 5 million copies and the Sheep and cows will still talk about how rare isnt the same old rare


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supermechakirby

As an Xbox Lover, I don't give a frick about Rare one way or the other. It's all about shooters man.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.peaceful_anger

And I agree with that. But people are to qucik to use the word suck when they hear Rare.

 It's all about shooters man.

XTy

You are robbing yourself of many great games.

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]sorry but rare has lost its ability to make quality AAA games. its sad, but we have to move on people, they are just a shell of their fromer selves ever since they went with m$Sheepdisease

Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.peaceful_anger

I don't like RARE, RaRE and Xbox don't matchanyways.

I will say that Perfect Dark 0 WAS HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. Kameo blew too.

Perfect Dark Zero sucked so hard its unbelievable.MorisUkunRasik

At least play it first before you comment. I thought PDZ was amazingly good. A lot of people didn't like it because it didn't have any form of auto aim, not having it though was required to beat it on Dark Agent difficulty. I never managed to do very well at this difficulty, Kudos to those that did though because it was painfully hard.

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.XTy

I don't like RARE, RaRE and Xbox don't matchanyways.

I will say that Perfect Dark 0 WAS HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. Kameo blew too.

Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.peaceful_anger

:roll: Don't go on scores, they really mean nothing. Hell, Killzone is better than Goldeneye, it's just Goldeneye was the dogs dangley bits when it was released. The standard of gameplay has rocketed since the days of the N64. I speak from experience thats not clouded by my retro pair of rose tinted glasses.

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.SgtWhiskeyjack

:roll: Don't go on scores, they really mean nothing. Hell, Killzone is better than Goldeneye, it's just Goldeneye was the dogs dangley bits when it was released. The standard of gameplay has rocketed since the days of the N64. I speak from experience thats not clouded by my retro pair of rose tinted glasses.

Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.peaceful_anger

[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]Perfect Dark Zero sucked so hard its unbelievable.SgtWhiskeyjack

At least play it first before you comment. I thought PDZ was amazingly good. A lot of people didn't like it because it didn't have any form of auto aim, not having it though was required to beat it on Dark Agent difficulty. I never managed to do very well at this difficulty, Kudos to those that did though because it was painfully hard.

Didn't Perfect Dark Zero ruin the Perfect Dark timeline?Solid_Link22

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]Didn't Perfect Dark Zero ruin the Perfect Dark timeline?Zenkuso

He didn't say it, I did. I also had friends and the biggest screen TV you could get back then. We loved it and played it for over a year. I've actually never played Killzone :lol: I was just using it as a standards example.

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.SgtWhiskeyjack

:roll: Don't go on scores, they really mean nothing. Hell, Killzone is better than Goldeneye, it's just Goldeneye was the dogs dangley bits when it was released. The standard of gameplay has rocketed since the days of the N64. I speak from experience thats not clouded by my retro pair of rose tinted glasses.

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]Didn't Perfect Dark Zero ruin the Perfect Dark timeline?SgtWhiskeyjack

He didn't say it, I did. I also had friends and the biggest screen TV you could get back then. We loved it and played it for over a year. I've actually never played Killzone :lol: I was just using it as a standards example.

[QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]Didn't Perfect Dark Zero ruin the Perfect Dark timeline?Zenkuso

So you're saying PDZ, Conker, and Viva Pinata are up to par with Rare's previous works? (Donkey Kong Country, DK64, Banjo series, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark)Basinboy

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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]Anybody that says rare makes games like they used to are pure die hard fanboys. Lets have a stroll down memory lane. Shall we.
Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, and 3
Perfect Dark 9.9
Goldeneye 9.8
Banjo Tooie 9.6
Banjo Kazooie 9.5
Conkers Bad Fur Day 9.3
Donkey Kong 64 9.0
Jet Force Gemini 8.9 This game was robbed of AAA IMO.

Now lets see there recent work
Grabbed by the Ghoulies 6.5
Star Fox Adventures 8.3
Kameo 8.7
Conker: Live and Reloaded 8.3
Viva Pinata 8.3
Perfect Dark Zero 9.0 But lets be honest, this game sucked compared to its predecessor, and should not have gotten AAA IMO.

Now I'm not saying all these games are bad, I just think they pale in comparison to games Rare has made in the past.peaceful_anger

:roll: Don't go on scores, they really mean nothing. Hell, Killzone is better than Goldeneye, it's just Goldeneye was the dogs dangley bits when it was released. The standard of gameplay has rocketed since the days of the N64. I speak from experience thats not clouded by my retro pair of rose tinted glasses.

:| Killzone will be remembered far longer on here that Goldeneye will. Nothing has flopped that hard :lol:

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="Solid_Link22"]Didn't Perfect Dark Zero ruin the Perfect Dark timeline?SgtWhiskeyjack

He didn't say it, I did. I also had friends and the biggest screen TV you could get back then. We loved it and played it for over a year. I've actually never played Killzone :lol: I was just using it as a standards example.

Don't get me wrong though, I still have some faith that Rare will make Banjo Threeie on par with the greatness that is Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, since the original team is making the game. So don't let me down Rare because this game will be the reason I drop $400 for a 360.peaceful_anger

Don't get me wrong though, I still have some faith that Rare will make Banjo Threeie on par with the greatness that is Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, since the original team is making the game. So don't let me down Rare because this game will be the reason I drop $400 for a 360.peaceful_anger

I did that on November 22, 2005. :P

Couldn't agree more.  I guess having to live without Rare games on other consoles is taking its toll.

When you consider that everything Rare has put out since it switched to MS has been AA and AAA, one wonders what there is to complain about.