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#101 Robert_Mueller
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@ProtossX said:

the value is PS4 owners have to buy a gaming computer, and have windows 10 installed and start using the microsoft shop or else they miss out on 99% of best multiplats and exclusives

PS4 = just as useless as xbone

I still do not get it. Before that MS decision PS4 owners would have been forced to buy an Xbone to play certain games. Now it is sufficient for them to get a Windows PC which they may already have anyway. How is that an advantage for the Xbone?

if u dont wanna play halo 5 pick ps4 and roll with indies and the order

Halo is certainly the most overrated game franchises ever. I am not so much into shooters anyway, but this series is even more pointless than others for me.

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#102  Edited By finalstar2007
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They should rename the console to MultiplatOne

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#103  Edited By ProtossX
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@robert_mueller said:
@ProtossX said:

the value is PS4 owners have to buy a gaming computer, and have windows 10 installed and start using the microsoft shop or else they miss out on 99% of best multiplats and exclusives

PS4 = just as useless as xbone

I still do not get it. Before that MS decision PS4 owners would have been forced to buy an Xbone to play certain games. Now it is sufficient for them to get a Windows PC which they may already have anyway. How is that an advantage for the Xbone?

if u dont wanna play halo 5 pick ps4 and roll with indies and the order

Halo is certainly the most overrated game franchises ever. I am not so much into shooters anyway, but this series is even more pointless than others for me.

cuz millions of games don't own a gaming computer or even a PC in their house those people still need a bone or spend even more on a PC

many people just buy a ps4 or a xb1 and if u go for ps4 you miss out pretty much gen ever imo

ps4 already has no games and xb1 has exclusives like halo 5 if ur not playing halo 5 this gen or MCC ur pretty much a useless person playing the order or whatever craps on ps4 maybe indie or something

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#104 FoxbatAlpha
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@robert_mueller said:
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Xbox has a bright future. Adding PC isn't taking anything away. It is adding value.

What additional value are you referring to? Only because you can play against PC gamers? How is this supposed to be of any value?

The more it can do, the more it can appeal to a larger audience. Little Joey with his PC can play Fable Legends with Tommy on The ONE. One game bought and shared. How could one scenario out of many take away value. When people shop and look into what they are buying, the Xbox ONE's list of ingredients will outweigh the competition several times over.

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#105  Edited By FinalFighters
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Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

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#106 Puckhog04
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Be prepared for GFWL: The Sequel. I'd still get it on Xbox One. I'm a console gamer though so that just makes sense. As long as I get my games on Xbox One I'm happy. I don't play PC games and, in reality, most that own an Xbox One I would suspect don't either.

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#107 ProtossX
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Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

dat fable legends exclusive must mean a lot to you lol what were you planning on getting on xb1 besides it? thats the only one they announced for win 10

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#108 Puckhog04
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@ProtossX said:

@FinalFighters said:

Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

dat fable legends exclusive must mean a lot to you lol what were you planning on getting on xb1 besides it? thats the only one they announced for win 10

Probably nothing. Chances are it's a front trying to "demote" Xbox One. Is it that surprising though? They always hold out hope of console ports. Who knows which ones end up there...if it's even successful and goes through.

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#109 ProtossX
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@Puckhog04 said:

@ProtossX said:

@FinalFighters said:

Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

dat fable legends exclusive must mean a lot to you lol what were you planning on getting on xb1 besides it? thats the only one they announced for win 10

Probably nothing. Chances are it's a front trying to "demote" Xbox One. Is it that surprising though? They always hold out hope of console ports. Who knows which ones end up there...if it's even successful and goes through.

it must be something you said you were just about to pickup xb1 the only pc game we heard coming to PC is fable legends and you just didn't want that one so why were u just bout to run out to get one? what do u thinks coming ur way u got a ps4 u got no games u got some indies here an there and bad pc ports

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#110 Puckhog04
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@ProtossX said:

@Puckhog04 said:

@ProtossX said:

@FinalFighters said:

Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

dat fable legends exclusive must mean a lot to you lol what were you planning on getting on xb1 besides it? thats the only one they announced for win 10

Probably nothing. Chances are it's a front trying to "demote" Xbox One. Is it that surprising though? They always hold out hope of console ports. Who knows which ones end up there...if it's even successful and goes through.

it must be something you said you were just about to pickup xb1 the only pc game we heard coming to PC is fable legends and you just didn't want that one so why were u just bout to run out to get one? what do u thinks coming ur way u got a ps4 u got no games u got some indies here an there and bad pc ports

I don't play PC games. I was simply piggy-backing on what you said in support. FinalFighters is the one we were talking about. I was simply supporting what you said.

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#111  Edited By Zethrickk382
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Sounds good to me, gj Microsoft. Looks like I'll miss out on even less, by not having an Xbox one.

Pc/Ps4 and eventually a Wii U.

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#112  Edited By ProtossX
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@Zethrickk382 said:

Sounds good to me, gj Microsoft. Looks like I'll miss out on even less, by not having an Xbox one.

Pc/Ps4 and eventually a Wii U.

  • Halo MCC (not on pc/ps4)
  • Sunset Overdrive (not on pc/ps4)
  • Halo 5 (not on pc/ps4)
  • Forza Motorsport 5-6 + Horizon 2-3 (not on pc/ps4)
  • Quantum Break (not on pc/ps4)
  • Scalebound (not on pc/ps4)

why did you buy A PS4 these games all beat ps4 exclusives and u have a pc all of the ps4 multiplats are useless?

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#113 LJS9502_basic
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@ProtossX said:

@Zethrickk382 said:

Sounds good to me, gj Microsoft. Looks like I'll miss out on even less, by not having an Xbox one.

Pc/Ps4 and eventually a Wii U.

  • Halo MCC (not on pc/ps4)
  • Sunset Overdrive (not on pc/ps4)
  • Halo 5 (not on pc/ps4)
  • Forza Motorsport 5-6 + Horizon 2-3 (not on pc/ps4)
  • Quantum Break (not on pc/ps4)
  • Scalebound (not on pc/ps4)

why did you buy A PS4 these games all beat ps4 exclusives and u have a pc all of the ps4 multiplats are useless?

Maybe because Sony isn't putting first party on PC like MS plans.....

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#114 ProtossX
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@ProtossX said:

@Zethrickk382 said:

Sounds good to me, gj Microsoft. Looks like I'll miss out on even less, by not having an Xbox one.

Pc/Ps4 and eventually a Wii U.

  • Halo MCC (not on pc/ps4)
  • Sunset Overdrive (not on pc/ps4)
  • Halo 5 (not on pc/ps4)
  • Forza Motorsport 5-6 + Horizon 2-3 (not on pc/ps4)
  • Quantum Break (not on pc/ps4)
  • Scalebound (not on pc/ps4)

why did you buy A PS4 these games all beat ps4 exclusives and u have a pc all of the ps4 multiplats are useless?

Maybe because Sony isn't putting first party on PC like MS plans.....

none of those games are announced for PC

and all of ps4 exclusives are boring movie type games none of them are as good as this non-pc/ps4 list of games i see here

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#115  Edited By Zethrickk382
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@ProtossX: It all boils down to gaming taste, mine is drawn to games from Sony. As shocking as it may be for you to hear.

Bloodbourne

Uncharted 4

Tomorrow Children

Until Dawn

The Order

The Wild

Rime

And many others yet to be announced. From studios I've enjoyed previously.

Out of your list, scalebound has my interest, again this is "my" opinion on games "I" find fun and worth spending "my money on".

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#116 ProtossX
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@Zethrickk382 said:

@ProtossX: It all boils down to gaming taste, mine is drawn to games from Sony. As shocking as it may be for you to hear.

Bloodbourne

Uncharted 4

Tomorrow Children

Until Dawn

The Order

The Wild

Rime

And many others yet to be announced. From studios I've enjoyed previously.

Out of your list, scalebound has my interest, again this is "my" opinion on games "I" find fun and worth spending "my money on".

only game i like on that list is bloodbourne PERIOD.

atleast with microsoft im getting a bunch of those exclusives and timed versions of rise of tomb raider/new gears/dead rising

bloodbourne is good but its not worth 400 dollars atleast MS i get like 5 great ones with ps4 i only want bloodbourne period

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#117 LJS9502_basic
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none of those games are announced for PC

and all of ps4 exclusives are boring movie type games none of them are as good as this non-pc/ps4 list of games i see here

Have you happened to read the thread? As for your last comment....that is subjective. I don't find racers or shooters to be games I want. That doesn't mean I would tell someone that enjoys them the games are boring. That''s OPINION dude and if he likes Sony games then he likes Sony games. Deal with it.

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#118 Puckhog04
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@ProtossX said:

none of those games are announced for PC

and all of ps4 exclusives are boring movie type games none of them are as good as this non-pc/ps4 list of games i see here

Have you happened to read the thread? As for your last comment....that is subjective. I don't find racers or shooters to be games I want. That doesn't mean I would tell someone that enjoys them the games are boring. That''s OPINION dude and if he likes Sony games then he likes Sony games. Deal with it.

It's true. Apparently they are looking to put some games on PC through this whole thing. But they have yet to announce what. I don't know how their comment translates to "every single Xbox One exclusive". It's simply making unnecessary assumptions. So because The Forest, Sniper Elite Nazi Zombies, Orcs Must Die, and Killing Floor 2 are all coming out on PS4, does that mean all PC "exclusives" are now coming out on Consoles? No. You go by what is announced. It's that simple. But the original post is correct, some are. Which ones or if any more than Fable Legends who knows.

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#119 LJS9502_basic
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@Puckhog04: MS is pushing Windows 10....which is more important to their portfolio than the Xbox brand. Do the math....

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#120 ProtossX
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@ProtossX said:

none of those games are announced for PC

and all of ps4 exclusives are boring movie type games none of them are as good as this non-pc/ps4 list of games i see here

Have you happened to read the thread? As for your last comment....that is subjective. I don't find racers or shooters to be games I want. That doesn't mean I would tell someone that enjoys them the games are boring. That''s OPINION dude and if he likes Sony games then he likes Sony games. Deal with it.

uh i did read the thread

the only thing announces is Fable Legends for windows 10

they are probably going to put Rise of Tomb Raider on windows 10 and stuff like Dead Rising 3 and just use windows 10 as a tool to put their games on PC

they didn't say are going to bring all of the exclusives on it, its probably mainly for the timed exclusives that microsoft publishes, the main exclusives still won't go to windows 10 so they keep xb1 unique for those games and the timed games just go on windows 10 after a certain amount of time instead of steam/GOG or whatever so PC gamers have access to the game but only one from place windows digital store

its just a win win win for microsoft they take over pc again and xb1 still has exclusive library while the ps4 has no way to get the exclusives or the timed titles of xb1 ever and they lose marketshare to windows10/xb1 and have to make deals for game to still come to them

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#121  Edited By Zethrickk382
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@ProtossX: Then ps4 obviously isn't for you as Xbox One isn't for me.

Sorry but your taste in gaming isn't the universal opinion "The same way mine isn't".

Honestly though, for anyone who owns a solid pc. The prospect of buying an Xbox one for its exclusives in light of trend this of its games going to pc, might be a bit off-putting for many.

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#122  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@ProtossX: Don't stop believing......

That song blows but the title fit.

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#123 Puckhog04
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Puckhog04: MS is pushing Windows 10....which is more important to their portfolio than the Xbox brand. Do the math....

Now you're just putting words in his mouth. The original quote never said about it being more important; simply stated they were doing/trying it. But fair enough, I suppose my assumption was correct as well.

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#124 ProtossX
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@Zethrickk382 said:

@ProtossX: Then ps4 obviously isn't for you as Xbox One isn't for me.

Sorry but your taste in gaming isn't the universal opinion "The same way mine isn't".

Honestly though, for anyone who owns a solid pc. The prospect of buying an Xbox one for its exclusives in light of trend of its games going to pc, might be a off-putting for many.

its really not though as long as microsoft keeps certain franchises xb1 exclusives gamers will still have to buy it for all those games.

the timed exclusives that go to PC are just perks the real exclusives make the system matter though, go look at ps4 exclusives they are nothing to brag over the lineup is as weak as xb1's and thats all microsoft has to do is keep themselves even with sonys exclusives while ramping up windows 10 shop at the same time with a few titles here an there

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#125 cantloginnow
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Smart move.PC+Xbox=profit for MS.Cows pretending SW is the real world,console exclusives mean nothing and this is all bad news with no benefit to Xbox or MS is a joke.

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#126 Zethrickk382
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@ProtossX: This will be my last response, It seems we're going around in circles about subjective opinions. "Something I made an attempt to distinguish, but apparently failed"

No-one knows what games will or won't go to PC in the future. All they can do is base it off of what already has. I'm sure that's already enough to add doubt to a 400+ dollar Investment.

That's all, have a good one.

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#127 LJS9502_basic
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@cantloginnow said:

Smart move.PC+Xbox=profit for MS.Cows pretending SW is the real world,console exclusives mean nothing and this is all bad news with no benefit to Xbox or MS is a joke.

Uh if you're trying to sell a console but don't have many exclusives....you're not going to move many consoles. Dilute your brand and it bites you in the ass.

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#128 Puckhog04
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@cantloginnow said:

Smart move.PC+Xbox=profit for MS.Cows pretending SW is the real world,console exclusives mean nothing and this is all bad news with no benefit to Xbox or MS is a joke.

Uh if you're trying to sell a console but don't have many exclusives....you're not going to move many consoles. Dilute your brand and it bites you in the ass.

People buy Consoles for more than just exclusives.

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#129 FinalFighters
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@ProtossX said:

@FinalFighters said:

Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

dat fable legends exclusive must mean a lot to you lol what were you planning on getting on xb1 besides it? thats the only one they announced for win 10

"it's the first game of several first-party Xbox games coming to PC"

But by all means, continue the damage control if that's what helps you justify your purchase in buying the PortBox One

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#130 ProtossX
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@Zethrickk382 said:

@ProtossX: This will be my last response, It seems we're going around in circles about subjective opinions. "Something I made an attempt to distinguish, but apparently failed"

No-one knows what games will or won't go to PC in the future. All they can do is base it off of what already has. I'm sure that's already enough to add doubt to a 400+ dollar Investment.

That's all, have a good one.

good for you

Fact: HALO 5 will outsell every single PS4 exclusive

halo 5 is a game with you know gameplay/ai/multiplayer

uncharted = graphical movie with quick time events and terrible multiplayer if any

you see the difference?

ppl get value out of halo games they don't get any value out of a movie game and halo is as big as mario and zelda and stuff hes a house hold name drake an uncharted nobody who they are and nobody cares aobut them its not gonna sell period

i dont care what type of games you like fact is halo has more appeal to people than uncharted or whatever sony is pushing cuz ppl know of it and like the gameplay etc

u can argue its an opinion but sales don't lie more ppl like that franchise than any ps4 one

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#131 clyde46
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Speaking of Windows 10. Did they just rip everything from OSX Lion? Multiple desktops? Had that in 2011!

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#133 Zelda187
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Lolz

If series like Halo, Gears and Forza make their way to PC...then why would anyone give two shits about owning the XBoner?

What a useless hunk of crap

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#134 Zethrickk382
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@Puckhog04: "People buy Consoles for more than just exclusives."

That's pretty common knowledge.

I think it's also safe to say millions of Pc gamers buy Consoles for exclusives. See the inherent problem for them?

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#136 ProtossX
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@Zelda187 said:

Lolz

If series like Halo, Gears and Forza make their way to PC...then why would anyone give two shits about owning the XBoner?

What a useless hunk of crap

oh shutup they didn't announce halo 5 is on it or MCC Or anything or the gears or forza

none of that crap is on its way all we know is fable legends and any other timed crap they have coming none of the true exclusives is going over

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#137  Edited By Robert_Mueller
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@robert_mueller said:

What additional value are you referring to? Only because you can play against PC gamers? How is this supposed to be of any value?

The more it can do, the more it can appeal to a larger audience. Little Joey with his PC can play Fable Legends with Tommy on The ONE. One game bought and shared. How could one scenario out of many take away value. When people shop and look into what they are buying, the Xbox ONE's list of ingredients will outweigh the competition several times over.

Microsoft followed this "complete package" approach from the very first presentation of the Xbox ONE, but it did not seem to appeal to the majority of the customers ... at least not to the customers outside of the USA.

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#138 Puckhog04
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@Zethrickk382 said:

@Puckhog04: "People buy Consoles for more than just exclusives."

That's pretty common knowledge.

I think it's also safe to say millions of Pc gamers buy Consoles for exclusives. See the inherent problem for them?

If PC gamers were the target audience for Console manufacturers I would. But they aren't...Consoles sell amazingly off of Console gamers alone.

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#139 ProtossX
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@FinalFighters said:

@ProtossX said:

@FinalFighters said:

Wow, and i was this close *pinches fingers together* to buying a xboxone. But after reading this now knowing all first party games will be coming to PC im glad i didn't.

dat fable legends exclusive must mean a lot to you lol what were you planning on getting on xb1 besides it? thats the only one they announced for win 10

"it's the first game of several first-party Xbox games coming to PC"

But by all means, continue the damage control if that's what helps you justify your purchase in buying the PortBox One

XB1 still has more exclusives right now and in the future than PS4 , and better Racing games, as a PC gamer the ps4 is still a worse choice for anyone it literally brings nothing to a PC gamer compared to xb1

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#140 Zelda187
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@ProtossX said:

@Zelda187 said:

Lolz

If series like Halo, Gears and Forza make their way to PC...then why would anyone give two shits about owning the XBoner?

What a useless hunk of crap

oh shutup they didn't announce halo 5 is on it or MCC Or anything or the gears or forza

none of that crap is on its way all we know is fable legends and any other timed crap they have coming none of the true exclusives is going over

Oh, it's gonna happen.

You made the wrong choice, bud.

Just accept it

But there's still time to admit your mistake and couple a PS4 with a sweet ass gaming PC.

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#141 ProtossX
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@Zelda187 said:

@ProtossX said:

@Zelda187 said:

Lolz

If series like Halo, Gears and Forza make their way to PC...then why would anyone give two shits about owning the XBoner?

What a useless hunk of crap

oh shutup they didn't announce halo 5 is on it or MCC Or anything or the gears or forza

none of that crap is on its way all we know is fable legends and any other timed crap they have coming none of the true exclusives is going over

Oh, it's gonna happen.

You made the wrong choice, bud.

Just accept it

But there's still time to admit your mistake and couple a PS4 with a sweet ass gaming PC.

i dont want to buy a single ps4 exclusive game so the ps4 is useless in my home the xb1 has MCC/sunset/forza and halo 5 incoming i need to experience halo 5 i need to im sorry, i need to see what happens to cortana and do my multiplayer sessions all night

ps4 plays nothing i want like literally nothing it runs my pc games at 30 FPS and 2x lower resolution and the loading times and stuff is real bad ps4 = a really low end tech pc

sony = not making any exclusives that matter especially for 400 big ones

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#142 EducatingU_PCMR
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As if it won't be the same case with PS exclusives. Of course it may take Sony a lot more time to realize (they are dumber after all), probably by next-gen, when they're already at the edge of bankruptcy.

Why wouldn't you put your games on the most powerful and profitable platform the gaming world has ever seen.

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#143 Zethrickk382
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@ProtossX: How does anything you said effect me or anyone in my place?

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#144  Edited By Nengo_Flow
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How much you wanna bet Halo 5, the new Gears, and Forza will still just on XBOX?

There is no way M$ will let those be multiplat.

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#145  Edited By ProtossX
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@Nengo_Flow said:

How much you wanna bet Halo 5, the new Gears, and Forza will still just on XBOX?

There is no way M$ will let those be multiplat.

yah man thats what i said too

these cows and hermits think they gonna get everything all they will only give as much as they think they can for xbone to be competitive with ps4

so if xbone sales pick up a lot and they shore up a really good exclusive well maybe they ship out a gears to PC or something

its not like they are just gonna instantly put all their games on PC it won't work like that at all PC will get funneled a few games but not the main core ones unless they are just killing the ps4 in marketshare

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#146  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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@Puckhog04 said:

@Zethrickk382 said:

@Puckhog04: "People buy Consoles for more than just exclusives."

That's pretty common knowledge.

I think it's also safe to say millions of Pc gamers buy Consoles for exclusives. See the inherent problem for them?

If PC gamers were the target audience for Console manufacturers I would. But they aren't...Consoles sell amazingly off of Console gamers alone.

MS has no room to push away potential buyers. What do they have left? The american market with console only gamers and Sony is leading there too. They dont have europe, asia or the rest of the world. Now they dont have PC gamers looking for buying a console for the exclusives anymore either.

Edit: Not to forget that the xbone will get an even stronger stigmata for having very little true exclusives, while Sony has more true exclusives and console exclusvies.

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#147 ShepardCommandr
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all i want is the MC collection at 4K~60fps

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#148 APiranhaAteMyVa
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I don't think it will make much difference, people who prefer consoles will continue to buy consoles. I doubt many buy Xbox just for its exclusives, a lot of people just prefer playing on consoles. Pushing both platforms makes sense.

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#150 mariokart64fan
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It's over for Xbox confirmed but I don't give two fucks as I'd celebrate