No more RRoD??? is it possible?

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#101 ragek1ll589
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Cows shouting "teh 54% failurezzz" should watch THIS :|

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Despite some of the points he makes, it's still GhostMLD.

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#102 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] what red herring? i'm curious. you obviously have data on this.clone01

Really? When did I state that? I haven't stated ANY facts, I just made a statement.

And again, nice red herring.

so again, provide facts.

Provide facts for what exactly? I didn't make any claims, I simply made a statement.

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#103 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="clone01"] according to july NPD, the PS3 is in the hole about 7 mil.clone01

Okay? What does this have to do with him claiming an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead.

that's what the sales statistics say. you don't agree?

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

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#104 ColdfireTrilogy
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[QUOTE="HaloIs4Nerds"]54% FAILURE RATE. MS is too busy working on Natal when they havent even fixed the failure rate. It will never be fixed MizFitAwesome

If you want to deal with percentages, then a 100% self ownage rate for mentioning that number. Read my sig and be schooled in reality....

@MizFitAwesome learn 2 statistics. It wasnt a small area it was country wide. As far as I care who cares about statistics outside of the US if im IN the US. Secondly heuristics state that at a certain polling rate percentages become close be it 300k people or only 30k people. Lastly self polls are always full of error, so this poll could be completely wrong anyway. You either use it, and realize YOU MIGHT BE WRONG, or dont. Regardless its not a pointless poll its just not 100% accurate. Even if its half that 25% is still nucking futs..
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#105 randomwiiplayer
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I hope it is the end of the RROD. Truthfully,that is what is keeping me from buying a 360.

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#106 clone01
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Okay? What does this have to do with him claiming an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead.

that's what the sales statistics say. you don't agree?

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.
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#107 baius
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV1E_Rb9AsE&feature=channel

according to elpresador the 360 failure rate is 98.00%:P

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#108 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] that's what the sales statistics say. you don't agree?clone01

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.

Its just over 8 Million

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#109 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] that's what the sales statistics say. you don't agree?clone01

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.

You quoted my post about an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead and then YOU posted this "that's what the sales statistics say, you don't agree?"

See where I'm going with this.

Also, as I stated in my previous post, I looked up July NPD and the 7 million unit lead was not listed. Care to give me a link?

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#110 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

navyguy21

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.

Its just over 8 Million

If you guys are gonna start using vgchartz as a credible source I'm not gonna even bother to debate anymore.

They haven't even updated Sony's latest numbers that put the PS3 at 23.8 million units. Link

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#111 Shinobi120
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The article is dated FEB 15, 2008.

/End Thread

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This thread should have ended at this post a long time ago.

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#112 X360PS3AMD05
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I bet it won't :lol:
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#114 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.clone01

Its just over 8 Million

If you guys are gonna start using vgchartz as a credible source I'm not gonna even bother to debate anymore.

They haven't even updated Sony's latest numbers that put the PS3 at 23.8 million units. Link

so you think ur math is better than vgchartz ?? lol
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#115 samuraiguns
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Old article is old, I seriously don't believe you guys read this stuff.

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#116 killerfist
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There is no way to be sure anymore. With so many different models on the market these days. (Jasper and whatever they are all called). A 360 slimline sounds plausible tho.
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#117 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Its just over 8 Million

Leo-Magic

If you guys are gonna start using vgchartz as a credible source I'm not gonna even bother to debate anymore.

They haven't even updated Sony's latest numbers that put the PS3 at 23.8 million units. Link

so you think ur math is better than vgchartz ?? lol

If you can point out where I implied or said that I'll paypal you a million dollars :lol:.

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#118 dkrustyklown
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[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

5000 people hardly make up enough evidence to support 30 million sold. If you believe that you are severly deluding yourself. It's like the 1st statement in my sig. Prove the poll was well made, if you intend to use it...

MizFitAwesome

Statistical analysis failure.

5000 is a big enough sample. Political polls from Gallup often don't have any more than that, and they're supposed to represent 300 million.

Yeah, the gallup poll really helped John Kerry win in 2004, didn't it? You just helped prove my point....

Oh really? The thing that matter is, that even with such a small sample, the gallup poll was only off by 3%. If the same margin of error was applied to this poll, that would still leave the 360 with 51% failure rate.

It is undeniable that the 360 is a piece of junk. No console in history has ever had a higher failure rate than the 360. Just ask around here. How many 360 owners are on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th 360 because of hardware failures? Plenty enough to prove the point.

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#119 dkrustyklown
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[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

5000 people hardly make up enough evidence to support 30 million sold. If you believe that you are severly deluding yourself. It's like the 1st statement in my sig. Prove the poll was well made, if you intend to use it...

MizFitAwesome

Statistical analysis failure.

5000 is a big enough sample. Political polls from Gallup often don't have any more than that, and they're supposed to represent 300 million.

Yeah, the gallup poll really helped John Kerry win in 2004, didn't it? You just helped prove my point....

Also, why are you skipping over to 2004? There was another one in 2008. Is it because it doesn't support your belief and you therefore hope to cloud reality by cherry picking examples? Of course it is.

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#120 mythrol
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

Statistical analysis failure.

5000 is a big enough sample. Political polls from Gallup often don't have any more than that, and they're supposed to represent 300 million.

dkrustyklown

Yeah, the gallup poll really helped John Kerry win in 2004, didn't it? You just helped prove my point....

Oh really? The thing that matter is, that even with such a small sample, the gallup poll was only off by 3%. If the same margin of error was applied to this poll, that would still leave the 360 with 51% failure rate.

It is undeniable that the 360 is a piece of junk. No console in history has ever had a higher failure rate than the 360. Just ask around here. How many 360 owners are on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th 360 because of hardware failures? Plenty enough to prove the point.

All of this is irrelevant as gallup polls are done by professional companies that specialize in making sure their polls are as accurate as possible. GI is a video game magazine, they didn't follow proper procedure and therefore their numbers are not scientific and can't be used. If we're just going to start believing unscientific information without any regard for actual fact then I've got a machine to sell you that will turn iron to gold.
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#121 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.

You quoted my post about an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead and then YOU posted this "that's what the sales statistics say, you don't agree?"

See where I'm going with this.

Also, as I stated in my previous post, I looked up July NPD and the 7 million unit lead was not listed. Care to give me a link?

fine, i misquoted. its still a large gap: http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2009/08/15/game-consoles-%E2%80%93-july-2009-npd-sales-figure-analysis/
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#122 clone01
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

Please give me a link to the sales statistics you've seen that show a 9 million unit lead. Until then, hell no I don't agree.

i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.

You quoted my post about an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead and then YOU posted this "that's what the sales statistics say, you don't agree?"

See where I'm going with this.

Also, as I stated in my previous post, I looked up July NPD and the 7 million unit lead was not listed. Care to give me a link?

gave you a link. do you think i'm making this up?
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#123 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] i didn't say 9 mil....i said 7 mil. look up July NPD if you don't believe me.clone01

You quoted my post about an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead and then YOU posted this "that's what the sales statistics say, you don't agree?"

See where I'm going with this.

Also, as I stated in my previous post, I looked up July NPD and the 7 million unit lead was not listed. Care to give me a link?

gave you a link. do you think i'm making this up?

Not sure why you quoted my same response twice.

Anyway, no I don't think you're making this up as we all know the 360 is ahead of the PS3. When someone boasts unsubstantiated claims like a 9 million unit lead I have to ask for proof though. As you can see, the most recent numbers put the lead in the 7 million range but people continue to change the numbers to benefit their argument.

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#124 clone01
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

You quoted my post about an unsubstantiated 9 million unit lead and then YOU posted this "that's what the sales statistics say, you don't agree?"

See where I'm going with this.

Also, as I stated in my previous post, I looked up July NPD and the 7 million unit lead was not listed. Care to give me a link?

gave you a link. do you think i'm making this up?

Not sure why you quoted my same response twice.

Anyway, no I don't think you're making this up as we all know the 360 is ahead of the PS3. When someone boasts unsubstantiated claims like a 9 million unit lead I have to ask for proof though. As you can see, the most recent numbers put the lead in the 7 million range but people continue to change the numbers to benefit their argument.

i was never the one who stated the gap was 9 million.
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#125 Stinger78
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I hope it is the end of the RROD. Truthfully,that is what is keeping me from buying a 360.randomwiiplayer

The date of manufacture on my Xbox 360 is 2005-11-11 - a launch system I bought around February of 2006. It works as well as when I got it.

I keep my system horizontal (not standing up). I keep it on a table, instead of on carpet, with a minimum foot of clearance around the top, back, and both sides. I keep the power brick on the same table, instead of carpet. it's plugged into a surge protector/power bar instead of a regular power outlet.

I've never had the RRoD.

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#126 Hexagon_777
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Microsoft promised the end of the RRoD after every redesign. This article sounds more credible.