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#101 SpinoRaptor24
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It's a little thing called double standards. For example: many Sony fanboys here were bashing Xbox Live for its price, claiming how paying for an online service is absurd and how greedy MS is etc.

Sony introduces PSN+, and suddenly we see comments from the same people saying that paying for an online service is "like totally worth it" and "it has great features so it's ok" etc.

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#102 johny300
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It's a little thing called double standards. For example: many Sony fanboys here were bashing Xbox Live for its price, claiming how paying for an online service is absurd and how greedy MS is etc.

Sony introduces PSN+, and suddenly we see comments from the same people saying that paying for an online service is "like totally worth it" and "it has great features so it's ok" etc.

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Agreed lol. and i meant it.

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#103 Brownesque
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First of all, Kevin Butler IS awesome. Second of all, I own a Playstation, PS2, PS3, and a PSP. I've never owned a Nintendo, Sega, or Microsoft console in my life. And yet I am totally enraged about the lack of USB support and the axing of Linux. Like, I won't be buying another Playstation console ever.
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#104 FlamesOfGrey
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Nah, no one gets a "free pass" here. PS3's launch to early 2008 was a field day with fanboys bashing the PS3 (Overpriced / No games / Failure / PSN is a joke blah blah blah) you couldn't say anything positive about the PS3 without getting bashed but since MGS4 things have changed. Sony has gotten better and Microsoft has gotten worse. Also, alot of the 360 fanboys have left or gotten banned while PS3 fanboys have come out of hiding since then.
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#105 Brownesque
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It's a little thing called double standards. For example: many Sony fanboys here were bashing Xbox Live for its price, claiming how paying for an online service is absurd and how greedy MS is etc.

Sony introduces PSN+, and suddenly we see comments from the same people saying that paying for an online service is "like totally worth it" and "it has great features so it's ok" etc.

SpinoRaptor24
Are you joking? PSN+ offers more than Xbox Live Gold. And PSN offers online gaming versus Xbox Live Gold. I don't see what's there to complain about. Maybe you should contemplate the fact that Sony is actually willing to give people something they wouldn't otherwise have for their paid subscription services. By the way, I happily game on PSN without paying a dime for the service. Check yourself.
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#106 SpinoRaptor24
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

It's a little thing called double standards. For example: many Sony fanboys here were bashing Xbox Live for its price, claiming how paying for an online service is absurd and how greedy MS is etc.

Sony introduces PSN+, and suddenly we see comments from the same people saying that paying for an online service is "like totally worth it" and "it has great features so it's ok" etc.

Brownesque

Are you joking? PSN+ offers more than Xbox Live Gold. And PSN offers online gaming versus Xbox Live Gold. I don't see what's there to complain about. Maybe you should contemplate the fact that Sony is actually willing to give people something they wouldn't otherwise have for their paid subscription services. By the way, I happily game on PSN without paying a dime for the service. Check yourself.

What they offer makes no difference, especially when all you want to do is just play a few matches online. I'm merely pointing out that the same fans who condemned Xbox live to hell and back are the same fans who seem to have no problem paying for PSN+. What worries me the most is that Sony might make paying for PSN obligatory. The thought that Sony would charge for their online service seemed inconceivable by many.

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#107 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

It's a little thing called double standards. For example: many Sony fanboys here were bashing Xbox Live for its price, claiming how paying for an online service is absurd and how greedy MS is etc.

Sony introduces PSN+, and suddenly we see comments from the same people saying that paying for an online service is "like totally worth it" and "it has great features so it's ok" etc.

SpinoRaptor24

Are you joking? PSN+ offers more than Xbox Live Gold. And PSN offers online gaming versus Xbox Live Gold. I don't see what's there to complain about. Maybe you should contemplate the fact that Sony is actually willing to give people something they wouldn't otherwise have for their paid subscription services. By the way, I happily game on PSN without paying a dime for the service. Check yourself.

What they offer makes no difference, especially when all you want to do is just play a few matches online. I'm merely pointing out that the same fans who condemned Xbox live to hell and back are the same fans who seem to have no problem paying for PSN+. What worries me the most is that Sony might make paying for PSN obligatory. The thought that Sony would charge for their online service seemed inconceivable by many.

If all you want to do is play a few matches online, you should be playing on Sony's console considering that PSN access including the online gaming portion is entirely free... Whereas Xbox Live, which I see you're sporting requires that you pay money for the privilege to, as you say, play a few matches online... That's exactly why Sony fans (and not just Sony fans, mind you...) have been complaining about Xbox Live Gold and not PSN+.
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#108 johny300
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Nah, no one gets a "free pass" here. PS3's launch to early 2008 was a field day with fanboys bashing the PS3 (Overpriced / No games / Failure / PSN is a joke blah blah blah) you couldn't say anything positive about the PS3 without getting bashed but since MGS4 things have changed. Sony has gotten better and Microsoft has gotten worse. Also, alot of the 360 fanboys have left or gotten banned while PS3 fanboys have come out of hiding since then.FlamesOfGrey
Lol you make it sound they were wolves waiting to jump on their prey lol. and youre right actually.
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#109 reiv
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In this forum, people see what they want to see.
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In this forum, people see what they want to see.reiv

Simply put, yet so true.

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#111 lamprey263
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I think Sony (as far as the PS3 goes) received a good amount of special treatment. For instance their launch titles were horrible, including it's flagship launch title Resistance Fall of Man, it was a rushed incomplete mediocre game at best and it got so much praise you'd think critics gave it such a bump in ratings because anything less might have guaranteed the PS3's death from launch. I can sympathize with this somewhat as Sony was the leading console for two generations, it'd be cruel to deliver it a killing blow, it deserves more. Luckily for me Motorstorm was just a few months away and I absolutely loved it. God of War 2 came out right about then too, since the PS3 was BC I got a lot of play out of it. I think the PS3 got a further pass when they slowly took away BC, I think gamers and critics and gaming journalists didn't make as much of a stink as this deserved. The PS2 was a popular console with so many titles Sony could have continued to profited off PS2 game sales, the only reason I think they pulled BC support was to save costs on the hardware. After all to stay competitive Sony's first 60GB BC models were over $900 a piece to make, and sold for $600, they were taking losses for a while. As for the losses Sony took, there's another giant pass they got. Because of the losses they took in 2007 on PS3 hardware costs Sony cooked the books. They sold assets such as $2.9 billion in shares of Sony Financial Holdings, and made another $850 million on selling their Cell chip factory to Toshiba. Without those sales Sony would have lost money that year, instead they were praised for pulling in like $3.6 billion in net profits that year (normally they'd make around $1 billion). Originally that money was to be set aside to fund research and development of new HDTVs, they obviously didn't and it was noticeable the following year. So a year went by with needed restructuring and HDTV development and they did none of it, only toward the end of the next fiscal year did they fire HDTV production staff, and they started taking noticeable losses. For starters Sony was a major brand name but as far as HDTV sales went Panasonic was leading, and still does, they make the best HDTVs there are, which is why they can be pricey. then Vizio, that aggressively cheap HDTV manufacturer, eventually surpassed Sony's #2 in HDTV sales because quite frankly the quality of their HDTVs were very comparable. Sony's HDTVs were priced high like the Panasonics, but weren't nearly as good, while Vizio was more comparable and much cheaper, so Sony took losses on HDTV sales and game sales. I think this is why Sony has gotten into the 3D HDTV aspect to make them more relevant to the HDTV consumer market, that and they finally started being more competitive with their pricing. As we can see today they're much better off, PS3 hardware is finally cheaper to make than it sells for, and they're selling more affordable HDTVs. Back to the PS3 side of things, the 2007 line-up wasn't that solid. I loved Motorstorm, but following releases like Lair (horrible) and Warhawk (mediocre), were big disappointments. Heavenly Sword was a decent game, very cinematic and but so-so on gameplay, but at least fun. Same as for the first Uncharted, very so-so, but an excellent looking game with great voice acting and motion capture and story, but gameplay was rather lacking, as a shooter is was rather dull, still fun though. MGS4 also must have been one of the most horrible games I've ever played, that's the major pass Sony got, there was nearly no game and the game was an endurance test to one's patience for lengthy horribly written cutscenes; it wasn't so bad that it got good review but was utterly horrible in all the praise it received. I also remember Haze getting so much praise and people quickly dismissed it when they realized it was crap. It wasn't until the fall of 2008 that I feel Sony started shining. Little Big Planet, Motorstorm Pacific Rift (more fun than the first), and Resistance 2 (big improvement on the first). Killzone 2 came shortly after that. I think with all the pass critics and gamers gave Sony allowed them to stay relevant long enough to get on their feet to deliver good games. Exclusives like MAG, Infamous, Heavy Rain, and Uncharted 2 followed and they were good. The last pass I think Sony gets is God of War 3, sure it's an excellent looking, but compared to GOW2 it just wasn't as fun. What I liked about GOW2 is that they game and story were both excellent, but the gameplay was unmatched. Great boss fights, tons of difficult and brutal filler combat in between, it made GOW2 epic. GOW3 felt like a breeze, getting between bosses felt quicker than playing Shadow of the Colossus. What made GOW2 epic wasn't just the scale of the game, what made Kratos feel like a badass was having to endure so much challenging combat. And again I thought the boss fights were much better in GOW2. The one area I think they didn't get any pass was the PSP Go, I think their attempt to undermine the retailers really hurt them there. And they're still suffering from the effects of it. You can't get retailers to sell PSP Go units if they can't sell the games for them. Never mind the failed promise to exchange tangible copies for digital rights. Since then the PSP3000 is the more desired unit, but the impact on retailers is still showing, they have supported the PSP much less since, giving the PSP less shelf space as a result, most game stores I go to now only car a small collection of PSP games than they used to before the PSP Go.
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#112 dvalo9
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actually on SW there was once two threads "ps3 sucks because" and one called "360 sucks because" both at the same time. But i remember the mods closing the 360 thread and leaving the ps3 thread open to be bashed.
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#114 FlamesOfGrey
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actually on SW there was once two threads "ps3 sucks because" and one called "360 sucks because" both at the same time. But i remember the mods closing the 360 thread and leaving the ps3 thread open to be bashed.dvalo9
Things of that nature are a common occurence here.
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#115 blitzcloud
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]When did Kevin Butler ever bash Nintendo or the Wii?slvrraven9
really? i mean you missed the controller like a lollipop thing or the we dont flail our arms like this *insert girly flailing* when playing games etc. etc.??? obviously sony advertising and not from him personaly but you understand....hopefully

Maybe you didn't quite get it, but that's a jab at kinect.

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#116 SaltyMeatballs
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Yes and no. The fact is just that there are more Cows in SW in general.
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#117 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]When did Kevin Butler ever bash Nintendo or the Wii?blitzcloud

really? i mean you missed the controller like a lollipop thing or the we dont flail our arms like this *insert girly flailing* when playing games etc. etc.??? obviously sony advertising and not from him personaly but you understand....hopefully

Maybe you didn't quite get it, but that's a jab at kinect.

The lollipop part wasn't, that stab at Nintendo a while back, which is very ironic now considering they copied Nintendo and put a god damn coloured ball at the end...

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#118 TintedEyes
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Yes and no. The fact is just that there are more Cows in SW in general.SaltyMeatballs

well usually facts can be proven so where is the proof?

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#119 blitzcloud
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[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] really? i mean you missed the controller like a lollipop thing or the we dont flail our arms like this *insert girly flailing* when playing games etc. etc.??? obviously sony advertising and not from him personaly but you understand....hopefullySaltyMeatballs

Maybe you didn't quite get it, but that's a jab at kinect.

The lollipop part wasn't, that stab at Nintendo a while back, which is very ironic now considering they copied Nintendo and put a god damn coloured ball at the end...

The flailing arms part and pew pew was directed to the main competitor at this point, kinect.

And the statement you say wasn't from KB afaik.

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#120 Lionheart08
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Maybe....but then again whenever Sony does do something to "screw up" you'll see about 3-4 threads on the exact same subject. Half the times, people will defend them just because of the poorly contrived argument trolls/flamebaiters make like "OMG, Sony took out the OSI, THEY LIED, we should TOTALLY SUE THEM!!!!!"

How exactly do you defendthat?

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what i think is most telling about the different fanbases is that from 2006 to 2008 the ps3 got lots of hate but when the ps3 got better people forgave it for being a joke and went out and bought one.

from 2005 to today the hardcore ps3 guys hated on the 360 no matter what it delivered or did not deliver.

it seemed like back in the old days that ps3 hate was based on howaverage (or bad) the games were while 360 hate was based on emotion and personal reasons like being upset at getting stuck in 3rd place and being upset that ms would even dare to enter the console market.

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#122 tumle
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Yes and no. The fact is just that there are more Cows in SW in general.SaltyMeatballs

The pole and the amount of posts agreeing with TC, seams to indicate otherwise;)

I realy think that there is no Gaming system getting a free pass. its all down to whats in the news and selective reading:D

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M$ is worse than Nintendo and Sony.

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#124 abuabed
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Bash Sony, because when they screw up, I'm gonna be right there with ya.

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Nice meeting you again Silver :P
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#125 TREAL_Since
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The problem with this OP is that you don't quote or paraphrase the other side of the spectrum. You know it goes both ways. No one gets a free pass. You'll always have fans of each brand attacking and/or defending something. Not only that, you're grouping people as being hypocrites.

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#126 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Yes and no. The fact is just that there are more Cows in SW in general.tumle

The pole and the amount of posts agreeing with TC, seams to indicate otherwise;)

I realy think that there is no Gaming system getting a free pass. its all down to whats in the news and selective reading:D

That's exactly what it is. I think a lot of us are smart enough to put it into perspective.

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#127 SapSacPrime
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Yes most of the posters on here are Playstation fanboys I thought everybody knew this? I think it has more to do with the average age and fact many of the posters here are male, and the fact Sony clearly markets more towards that age bracket (which makes sense seeing as they spend more on gaming). Its ironic because Nintendo fans have always been portrayed as young kids yet they seem to act far more dignified 8).

Edit: Btw I voted no because more people in their corner =/= special treatment. There have been numerous "Sony killed my usb devices" threads in the last 24 hrs.

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what i think is most telling about the different fanbases is that from 2006 to 2008 the ps3 got lots of hate but when the ps3 got better people forgave it for being a joke and went out and bought one.

from 2005 to today the hardcore ps3 guys hated on the 360 no matter what it delivered or did not deliver.

it seemed like back in the old days that ps3 hate was based on howaverage (or bad) the games were while 360 hate was based on emotion and personal reasons like being upset at getting stuck in 3rd place and being upset that ms would even dare to enter the console market.

Riverwolf007

I disagree. The PS3 was never a joke. People just expected it to come out from launch running. The 360 had a year head start which mean two good years of some 3rd party exclusives and for some reason people expected the PS3 to match or beat that during it's launch year. People forget how the 360 rode on PS2 multiplats it's first year.

The PS3 had some great AA games throughout it's first year. But of course MS fanboys loved to brag about their AAAE games and that's all that mattered. AA games meant the PS3 "had no games". Well now Nintendo andMS fanboys love AA games and use them to defend their library all the time. MS fanboys even stopped caring about exclusives which were big in 06 and 07 and wanna be best friends with PC fanboys to brag about their shared games.

There was no logic to any of the fanboy mess in SW and there still isn't. There is no reason to HATE any console. I may think that one console doesn't offer me much gaming wise but I far from hate it.

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I don't see any system get a free pass, actually -- unless it's the 3DS. PS3 has the most supporters posting currently, but that doesn't mean it's been getting a free pass. Just part of the SW cycle.
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#130 SaltyMeatballs
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I don't see any system get a free pass, actually -- unless it's the 3DS. PS3 has the most supporters posting currently, but that doesn't mean it's been getting a free pass. Just part of the SW cycle.Stevo_the_gamer
3DS's specs haven't been getting a free pass :P
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#131 skrat_01
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The PC is god all hail the master race. It's SW, everyone has an opinion and some are going to be more vocal than others. Doesn't make them any more right. Anyway I imagine Cows are incredibly bitter from the first few years of the generation, so nature is taking its course so to speak.
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#132 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

what i think is most telling about the different fanbases is that from 2006 to 2008 the ps3 got lots of hate but when the ps3 got better people forgave it for being a joke and went out and bought one.

from 2005 to today the hardcore ps3 guys hated on the 360 no matter what it delivered or did not deliver.

it seemed like back in the old days that ps3 hate was based on howaverage (or bad) the games were while 360 hate was based on emotion and personal reasons like being upset at getting stuck in 3rd place and being upset that ms would even dare to enter the console market.

Javy03

I disagree. The PS3 was never a joke. People just expected it to come out from launch running. The 360 had a year head start which mean two good years of some 3rd party exclusives and for some reason people expected the PS3 to match or beat that during it's launch year. People forget how the 360 rode on PS2 multiplats it's first year.

The PS3 had some great AA games throughout it's first year. But of course MS fanboys loved to brag about their AAAE games and that's all that mattered. AA games meant the PS3 "had no games". Well now Nintendo andMS fanboys love AA games and use them to defend their library all the time. MS fanboys even stopped caring about exclusives which were big in 06 and 07 and wanna be best friends with PC fanboys to brag about their shared games.

There was no logic to any of the fanboy mess in SW and there still isn't. There is no reason to HATE any console. I may think that one console doesn't offer me much gaming wise but I far from hate it.

the ps3 was not only a running gag here in sw but everywhere. how can you not remember the sony quotes, giant enemy crab, the $600 press sitting forwards pics then stunned to silence sig pics, george forman grill pcs, haze, lair, the how you lost your brand video, ect ect ect...

oh yeah btw, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACER!!!!!!!

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#133 Javy03
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the ps3 was not only a running gag here in sw but everywhere. how can you not remember the sony quotes, giant enemy crab, the $600 press sitting forwards pics then stunned to silence sig pics, george forman grill pcs, haze, lair, the how you lost your brand video, ect ect ect...

oh yeah btw, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACER!!!!!!!

Riverwolf007

The PS3 was the BUTT of many jokes but as a system it was far from a joke. I also remember all the sales threads/articles about how POOR it was doing and then remember when Sony and MS released their yearly total sales and the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The PS3 as a system was not a joke, it was a solid piece of gaming equipment with the best Blu ray player on the market at that time. Its software left a little to be desired but mainly because it was it's first year and as Sony has shown all they needed was time to develop.

I think the main reason the PS3 was clowned on was because the 360 had built up a significant fanbase by the time the PS3 launched.

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#134 kuraimen
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Eh the 360 gets the same or even more special treatement here in my view. There has been threads where mods actively protect the 360 while I've never seen the same done for the PS3. And at the start of this gen the PS3 got so much unwarranted hate and bias that I say it deserves at least a little bit support.
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#135 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

the ps3 was not only a running gag here in sw but everywhere. how can you not remember the sony quotes, giant enemy crab, the $600 press sitting forwards pics then stunned to silence sig pics, george forman grill pcs, haze, lair, the how you lost your brand video, ect ect ect...

oh yeah btw, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACER!!!!!!!

Javy03

The PS3 was the BUTT of many jokes but as a system it was far from a joke. I also remember all the sales threads/articles about how POOR it was doing and then remember when Sony and MS released their yearly total sales and the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The PS3 as a system was not a joke, it was a solid piece of gaming equipment with the best Blu ray player on the market at that time. Its software left a little to be desired but mainly because it was it's first year and as Sony has shown all they needed was time to develop.

I think the main reason the PS3 was clowned on was because the 360 had built up a significant fanbase by the time the PS3 launched.

lulz, it's like arguing religion... so all you can do at that point is just smile, nod and slowly back away... yep the ps3 was a dream console from day one and it got unfailrly picked on by the mean old fanboys...and reviewers...and the press...and metacritic...and it's own executives...and...

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#136 skrat_01
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The PS3 as a system was not a joke, it was a solid piece of gaming equipment with the best Blu ray player on the market at that time. Its software left a little to be desired but mainly because it was it's first year and as Sony has shown all they needed was time to develop.

I think the main reason the PS3 was clowned on was because the 360 had built up a significant fanbase by the time the PS3 launched.

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Alas at the end of the day what defines a gaming console, and its value is its games. Sony really, really botched the first few years of the PS3, and were playing catch up for quite a long period of time. Microsoft absolutely steamrolled; going from a small competitor and Sony's dominance last generation, it was all a bit unbelievable that Sony had botched their efforts. Naturally it was shoved left and right by gamers and media outlets. It makes sense really, the giant dominating was having it's once massive marketshare picked to pieces by Microsoft while Nintendo was expanding into other regions successfully. Though on the long term, Sony has improved out of sight, which is a relief. Strong competition only makes things more interesting.
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#137 Hahadouken
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I think you're seeing what you want to see... and taking things far too seriously.... but that wasn't a poll option.
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#138 firefluff3
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The halo reach 3rd place thing, its because it wasnt even out for a full week and they base it on 7 days...

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#139 mitu123
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Isn't it obvious that there are more Sony fans here?

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#140 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

the ps3 was not only a running gag here in sw but everywhere. how can you not remember the sony quotes, giant enemy crab, the $600 press sitting forwards pics then stunned to silence sig pics, george forman grill pcs, haze, lair, the how you lost your brand video, ect ect ect...

oh yeah btw, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACER!!!!!!!

Riverwolf007

The PS3 was the BUTT of many jokes but as a system it was far from a joke. I also remember all the sales threads/articles about how POOR it was doing and then remember when Sony and MS released their yearly total sales and the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The PS3 as a system was not a joke, it was a solid piece of gaming equipment with the best Blu ray player on the market at that time. Its software left a little to be desired but mainly because it was it's first year and as Sony has shown all they needed was time to develop.

I think the main reason the PS3 was clowned on was because the 360 had built up a significant fanbase by the time the PS3 launched.

lulz, it's like arguing religion... so all you can do at that point is just smile, nod and slowly back away... yep the ps3 was a dream console from day one and it got unfailrly picked on by the mean old fanboys...and reviewers...and the press...and metacritic...and it's own executives...and...

Can you please enlighten me how you got it was a dream console out of that post? At least accurately read it before replying. :|

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#141 OneLazyAsian
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Isn't it obvious that there are more Sony fans here?

mitu123

Can you prove that? And no, I don't take "Just look at the posts" as an answer. Prove it that there are more Sony fans on this site.

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#142 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't it obvious that there are more Sony fans here?

OneLazyAsian

Can you prove that? And no, I don't take "Just look at the posts" as an answer. Prove it that there are more Sony fans on this site.

He can't, but he's right.

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#143 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

The PS3 was the BUTT of many jokes but as a system it was far from a joke. I also remember all the sales threads/articles about how POOR it was doing and then remember when Sony and MS released their yearly total sales and the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The PS3 as a system was not a joke, it was a solid piece of gaming equipment with the best Blu ray player on the market at that time. Its software left a little to be desired but mainly because it was it's first year and as Sony has shown all they needed was time to develop.

I think the main reason the PS3 was clowned on was because the 360 had built up a significant fanbase by the time the PS3 launched.

Lionheart08

lulz, it's like arguing religion... so all you can do at that point is just smile, nod and slowly back away... yep the ps3 was a dream console from day one and it got unfailrly picked on by the mean old fanboys...and reviewers...and the press...and metacritic...and it's own executives...and...

Can you please enlighten me how you got it was a dream console out of that post? At least accurately read it before replying. :|

Dude....your sig.... I love it!
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#144 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't it obvious that there are more Sony fans here?

waltefmoney

Can you prove that? And no, I don't take "Just look at the posts" as an answer. Prove it that there are more Sony fans on this site.

He can't, but he's right.

How can he be right if he can't prove his claim? I claim the PS3 is better than the Xbox360. Am I right too?

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#145 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

Can you prove that? And no, I don't take "Just look at the posts" as an answer. Prove it that there are more Sony fans on this site.

OneLazyAsian

He can't, but he's right.

How can he be right if he can't prove his claim? I claim the PS3 is better than the Xbox360. Am I right too?

No. 360 vs PS3 is a matter of personal taste. Cows outnumbering other groups isn't.

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#146 Giancar
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Some crybabies over here...It's SW, GGD or specific boards over ther ----------> It is a freaking stupid game :| I am a Sony fan and I endured here the Wii60 years, two gropus vs one :lol:
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#147 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

He can't, but he's right.

waltefmoney

How can he be right if he can't prove his claim? I claim the PS3 is better than the Xbox360. Am I right too?

No. 360 vs PS3 is a matter of personal taste. Cows outnumbering other groups isn't.

Yet you can't prove it. How does a proveless claim become true...

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#148 deangallop
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't it obvious that there are more Sony fans here?

OneLazyAsian

Can you prove that? And no, I don't take "Just look at the posts" as an answer. Prove it that there are more Sony fans on this site.

Proving it would take a lot of time and effort, it's pretty obvious that this board is dominated by cows and hermits.
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#149 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Isn't it obvious that there are more Sony fans here?

deangallop

Can you prove that? And no, I don't take "Just look at the posts" as an answer. Prove it that there are more Sony fans on this site.

Proving it would take a lot of time and effort, it's pretty obvious that this board is dominated by cows and hermits.

I don't even know why I bother when everyone is just gonna give me the "I'm too lazy to actually prove something yet I know I'm right" answer everytime.

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#150 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

The PS3 was the BUTT of many jokes but as a system it was far from a joke. I also remember all the sales threads/articles about how POOR it was doing and then remember when Sony and MS released their yearly total sales and the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The PS3 as a system was not a joke, it was a solid piece of gaming equipment with the best Blu ray player on the market at that time. Its software left a little to be desired but mainly because it was it's first year and as Sony has shown all they needed was time to develop.

I think the main reason the PS3 was clowned on was because the 360 had built up a significant fanbase by the time the PS3 launched.

Lionheart08

lulz, it's like arguing religion... so all you can do at that point is just smile, nod and slowly back away... yep the ps3 was a dream console from day one and it got unfailrly picked on by the mean old fanboys...and reviewers...and the press...and metacritic...and it's own executives...and...

Can you please enlighten me how you got it was a dream console out of that post? At least accurately read it before replying. :|

you are absolutely correct, i could have used the words "solid piece of gaming equipment" and it would have been even funnier and still highlighted how those words would not be an accurate way to describe the ps3 for the 1st 2 years it existed...

thanks for helping me to clarify the point. 8)