Not all 3rd parties love the PC....

Because there is no viable market for them to cater to? Who plays fighting or music games on a PC...-Feath-

Variety isn't a bad thing....

I play SF4 on my PC with a stick.

I wouldn't mind having those games listed above on PC because it brings in more variety/gamers to our platform.

PC's can use controllers and be hooked up to a TV, so there is no reason to not want these games on PC.

First post... really? More evidence... I am going to start book marking these threads and make a huge post in the suggestion forum.

I can already tell this thread is going to go places :roll:

The only playable games on PC are FPS and RTSParasomniac

While you seem to be a troll and are trying to start some kind of argument, ill play your game, I'm rather bored right now

rock band> a game made for local multiplayer, not due to piracy

beatles rock band> see above

Sports games> there arent many on the pc and most pc gamers have little intest in them

ninja gaiden > I found the game rather boring and see it as nothing of value being lost

Eteral sonata> we have far, far , far better rpgs

Tales of Vesperia> see above

Virtua Fighter 5> not man fighting games on the PC, again. they are local multiplayer focuse

Tekken 6 > see above

soulcaliber IV> see above

Brutal Legend> this is indeed a great game and i feel the controls would be made better on the pc, but there is no evidence that they kept it off pc due to piracy or any other reason than they wanted to make it for consoles.

while you can try to agrue with your short list of games that aren't on the PC as devs avoiding PC gaming, let us take a look at how many console devs have shut down this gen shall we? Free Raical, Ensemble(last game was x360 exclusive), red octaine, 3D realms (though that was due to them spending over a decade on 1 game), quite a few others i can't recall the names of how many PC devs have shut down this gen........ ironclad, i think that's it, they say it was piracy but their game was realllllllllllllly buggy and bad

I love my PC! but not for gaming.. PC's are only for chatting, sending emails, doing university studies, watching movies, listening to music and cheaking gaming news.. thats about it imo :P

I love my PC! but not for gaming.. PC's are only for chatting, sending emails, doing university studies, watching movies, listening to music and cheaking gaming news.. thats about it imo :P

finalstar2007

I´m not even going to bother...

While you seem to be a troll and are trying to start some kind of argument, ill play your game, I'm rather bored right now

rock band> a game made for local multiplayer, not due to piracy

beatles rock band> see above

Sports games> there arent many on the pc and most pc gamers have little intest in them

ninja gaiden > I found the game rather boring and see it as nothing of value being lost

Eteral sonata> we have far, far , far better rpgs

Tales of Vesperia> see above

Virtua Fighter 5> not man fighting games on the PC, again. they are local multiplayer focuse

Tekken 6 > see above

soulcaliber IV> see above

Brutal Legend> this is indeed a great game and i feel the controls would be made better on the pc, but there is no evidence that they kept it off pc due to piracy or any other reason than they wanted to make it for consoles.

while you can try to agrue with your short list of games that aren't on the PC as devs avoiding PC gaming, let us take a look at how many console devs have shut down this gen shall we? Free Raical, Ensemble(last game was x360 exclusive), red octaine, 3D realms (though that was due to them spending over a decade on 1 game), quite a few others i can't recall the names of how many PC devs have shut down this gen........ ironclad, i think that's it, they say it was piracy but their game was realllllllllllllly buggy and bad

shadow_hosi

The only playable games on PC are FPS and RTSParasomniac

And MMORPGs, simulators, RPGs, graphic adventures, puzzles and fighting games.

Hermits are trying to push the notion that the world is going multiplat....Well not all game developers do that. Some know that the PC pirates will CANNIBALISE the console sales.... These 3rd party AAA games are console exclusive due to the PC piracy: Rock Band FIFA Soccer 10 The Beatles: Rock Band MLB 09: The Show NHL 09 Ninja Gaiden Sigma High end AA games: Eternal Sonata Virtua Fighter 5 Condemned 2: Bloodshot Soulcalibur IV Tales of Vesperia Brutal Legend Tekken 6 Can anyone explain to me how this is possible? Why these devs avoid PC gaming like plague?L_lL_l

• Rock Band wouldn't work on PC, it's a party game and party games generally don't work on PC as a platform, not to mention the audiences are different (also there's free versions of music rhythm games on PC that let you insert your own songs and play them, playing the entire dark side of the moon album is fun)
• mentioning The Beatles Rock Band is redundant
• MLB 09: The Show is 1st party not 3rd party and is exclusive to Sony platforms
• Ninja Gaiden Sigma is also exclusive to the PS3
• Eternal Sonata and Tales of Vesperia publisher (Namco Bandai) has only ever published 1 game for the PC in its history, not expected
• Virtua Fighter 5 and Soul Calibur 4 and Tekken 6 are also not expected since there's no fighting-game audience on the PC
• Fifa Soccer 10 was released on Windows
• NHL 09 was also released on Windows

the only legit complaints is your post is Brutal Legend (which didn't do very well on consoles anyways) and Condemned 2: Bloodshot (which also didn't sell very well on consoles)

What doyou guys mean by theres no fighting audience on PC? Alot of people play SF4 on PC, Blaz Blue is coming to PC and SF4 on PC got pirated 2.5m tims on PC in less than a year.

Not hard to hook up a USB Stick or Controller.

The only playable games on PC are FPS and RTSParasomniac

and every other genre ;)

The only playable games on PC are FPS and RTSParasomniac

Wrong :| There is Turn based strategy games, there is rpg's of ANY form.. There are adventure games.. Really the pc can play every single thing the console can play because it is not limited to what controls you use.. Infact if we factor in the entire platform including the older console games you can use with systems like gametap.. They can play anything..

[QUOTE="L_lL_l"]Hermits are trying to push the notion that the world is going multiplat....Well not all game developers do that. Some know that the PC pirates will CANNIBALISE the console sales.... These 3rd party AAA games are console exclusive due to the PC piracy: Rock Band FIFA Soccer 10 The Beatles: Rock Band MLB 09: The Show NHL 09 Ninja Gaiden Sigma High end AA games: Eternal Sonata Virtua Fighter 5 Condemned 2: Bloodshot Soulcalibur IV Tales of Vesperia Brutal Legend Tekken 6 Can anyone explain to me how this is possible? Why these devs avoid PC gaming like plague?88mphSlayer

the only legit complaints is your post is Brutal Legend (which didn't do very well on consoles anyways) and Condemned 2: Bloodshot (which also didn't sell very well on consoles)

Sorry TC, that list isway too short.

Sorry TC, that list isway too short.

adv_tr00per

[QUOTE="adv_tr00per"]

Sorry TC, that list isway too short.

L_lL_l

The only playable games on PC are FPS and RTSParasomniac

Can anyone explain to me how this is possible? Why these devs avoid PC gaming like plague?L_lL_l

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]The only playable games on PC are FPS and RTSAdrianWerner

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="L_lL_l"]Hermits are trying to push the notion that the world is going multiplat....Well not all game developers do that. Some know that the PC pirates will CANNIBALISE the console sales.... These 3rd party AAA games are console exclusive due to the PC piracy: Rock Band FIFA Soccer 10 The Beatles: Rock Band MLB 09: The Show NHL 09 Ninja Gaiden Sigma High end AA games: Eternal Sonata Virtua Fighter 5 Condemned 2: Bloodshot Soulcalibur IV Tales of Vesperia Brutal Legend Tekken 6 Can anyone explain to me how this is possible? Why these devs avoid PC gaming like plague?L_lL_l

the only legit complaints is your post is Brutal Legend (which didn't do very well on consoles anyways) and Condemned 2: Bloodshot (which also didn't sell very well on consoles)

I love my PC! but not for gaming.. PC's are only for chatting, sending emails, doing university studies, watching movies, listening to music and cheaking gaming news.. thats about it imo :P

finalstar2007

Look at all those games i don't want, i'm missing so much!

Well Condemned 2 actually is a game i really want, and i'm annoyed the PC never got a port considering its Monolith.

There's been a few of these lately, recently joined people who feel the need to create a anti PC thread with little prior research. I wonder how many of them are alts that don't want to post under their main?

If the OP saw the gap in 3rd party exclusive development between PC and consoles; they wouldn't dream of making a thread like this.

And all third parties love console?

There's been a few of these lately, recently joined people who feel the need to create a anti PC thread with little prior research. I wonder how many of them are alts that don't want to post under their main?

If the OP saw the gap in 3rd party exclusive development between PC and consoles; they wouldn't dream of making a thread like this.

AnnoyedDragon

that's because pc is open development and consoles you need a license.

that's because pc is open development and consoles you need a license.

jrhawk42

Regardless, the OP is trying to set up PC as being a no go zone for the 3rd party simply because a few prefer consoles. The shear amount of 3rd party support for PC contradicts the suggestion that developers "avoid PC gaming like plague".

A handful of 3rd party developers preferring consoles is hardly a counter argument to the 150+ exclusive games on the GS spreadsheet for PC this generation. Because of the massive 3rd party support for PC; I could argue it is consoles that developers are avoiding.

Fifa 10 is on pc.

PC gamers also missed out on Darksiders.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

Sports games and music games are reserved for "casual" gamers. That market is on consoles.

Sports games also aren't on PC because aside from FIFA, every other sport is primarly an American phenomenon, and PC gaming isn't that big in America. FIFA probably should be on the PC, as football is huge around the world.

PS: Don't give me that "we'll go outside and play it" because that doesn't work. Plenty of professional athletes play video games based on sports. People don't play sports games because they can't play them in real life. People play them because they like the sport and you can't always play it whenever you want, so it's an alternative.

So to solidify your claim you post a list of yearly sports rehashes, music games and Japanese titles. Not really making a strong case there. EA has already stated they are going to go in a different direction with Madden and sports titles, presumably an online style like Battlefield Heroes. Music games require special peripherals which is better suited for a console. And PC gaming in Japan is a fraction of what it is in Europe and the US.

PC gamers also missed out on Darksiders.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

dc337

Darksiders isn't anything special and not many people are PC only, but if you are, it's not like you have a lack of games.

It seems people don't understand the true value of a PC. There are numerousmods and total conversions that are better than full-retail games. Want to add that to the list of exclusives? The list of exclusives that already trumps consoles?

PC gamers also missed out on Darksiders.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

dc337

Regardless of your platform choice you are going to miss out on games, not unless you are well off enough to buy every platform there is. So it doesn't mean much to be able to pick out certain games on a platform and boast that the other platforms don't have them, anyone can do that to criticise any other platform.

Based on the GS spreadsheet, which looks at games reviewed by GS in the 7-10 score range...

By not buying a PS3 you miss out on 32 games exclusive to that platform.

By not buying a 360 you miss out on 33 games exclusive to that platform.

By not buying a Wii you miss out on 61 games exclusive to that platform.

By not buying a PC you miss out on 165 games exclusive to that platform.

So based on the figures; if there is one platform that is worth being exclusive to it is PC, PC has access to the most exclusive games. You could of course bring preference into question when talking about being exclusive to one platform. Seeing how you decided it wasn't important when criticising someone for being a PC exclusive gamer; you mustn't consider it a noteworthy factor.

PC gamers also missed out on Darksiders.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

dc337

I haven't touched any of my consoles in a long time.

Ironically enough gaming on the PC is cheaper. I've already bought Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2 on PC this year and saved myself twenty dollars in process. To top it all off they both came with free games (the original Mass Effect and Bioshock) for pre-ordering on steam! I also got Red Faction:Guerrilla for free for pre-ordering Metro 2033.

I own a PS3 and an XBox 360,but I could see how someone could easily get away with just gaming on the PC.

PC gamers also missed out on Darksiders.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

dc337

You see, this is where the whole elitism accusations from console gamers turns into hypocrisy. I can dare say, ALL PC gamers have at least owned or played console and console gamers at least a considerable amount in their lives. Console fanboys, on the other hand, probably never touched a PC game. But it's not like you actually have to try something to know if it's likable or not, so flame on!

PC gamers also missed out on Darksiders.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

dc337

That said, the 3rd parties listed by the OP are mostly music and sports games. I'm not sure PC gamers are crying out for them... actually, this generation, the PC has received Guitar Hero 3 and Guitar Hero: World Tour. I can't imagine that ever happening in previous times, and even fighting games and console-oriented action games are showing up on the PC.

Was any proof of those 3rd party games not being on PC due to piracy given?

Many 3rd party developers will not develop for PC, much like many will not develop for consoles.

How can anyone be a pc-only gamer when the 360 arcade is only 200 bucks? It's probably worth getting this year just for Alan Wake and Red Dead Redemption.

dc337

I plan to get each console late in their life times solely for those 4-5 games I want that each console will gather through their lifespans, but that won't happen anytime soon