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#1 jetthrovegas
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Dear Casual gamer,

I am better than you at games. I have more skill, I could kill you in any multiplayer shooter of your choice, anytime, anyday. I can beat System Shock 2 on the Impossible difficulty. You cannot. I can beat Resident Evil 4 on professional in 8 hours and 11 minutes. You cannot. I can play games that you do not have the skill or devotion to play. I am a better gamer than you.

Dear Casual games,

I will not play you. I will not play Zack and Wiki, I will not play WiiPlay, I will not play Dewy's Adventure, I will not play LBP and I will not play ****ing Viva Pinata. I am a hardcore gamer, and you casual games to not appeal to me in the slightest.

Dear Nintendo,

I will not buy a Wii. I will not stand on a piece of plastic and have it tell me what a fatass I am. I will not wave a plastic phallus erratically to make my game character do want I want him or her or it to do. I will not buy a system from a company that no longer thinks that I am important. I will not buy a system from a company whose biggest game at E3 was not a game at all, but rather a Fatass Accusation Device (fad).

I do not have to like or accept casual gamers, I do not have like or understand casual games. Am I close minded? Hell yes. Am I "slowing down innovation"? If innovation is a hunk of plastic that lets me know that I need to excercise, then hell yeah I am slowing down innovation.

Am I alone? Hell no! There are many gamers like me who would rather play Elder Scrolls than Dewy's Adventure.

I am not alone; I am part of a market. And Nintendo is ignoring us, and as such I will ignore them. To hell with your casual games!

I am a Hardcore gamer dammit!

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#2 Ontain
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meh. you sound more like an elitist gamer than anything else.
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#3 adriancostin83
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me too man, but ur being way too harsh...

i somehow agree with u, but other players just like to play casual games and family games. who are u to judge them?

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#5 jetthrovegas
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meh. you sound more like an elitist gamer than anything else.Ontain

I am an elitist gamer. I do not like casuals, and I do not like casual games. End of story.

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#6 jetthrovegas
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me too man, but ur being way too harsh...

i somehow agree with u, but other players just like to play casual games and family games. who are u to judge them?

adriancostin83

I am a hardcore gamer. I have every right to judge them. That's it.

If we don't start voicing our opinion, the entire console industry will be casualized within 3 decades.

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#7 hyruledweller
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This reminds me of racism and prejudice.
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#8 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]meh. you sound more like an elitist gamer than anything else.jetthrovegas

I am an elitist gamer. I do not like casuals, and I do not like casual games. End of story.

sound like a fascist to me. Who cares who plays what?

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#9 jetthrovegas
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This reminds me of racism and prejudice. hyruledweller

You do not choose your race. You do choose your games. I have every right to be prejudiced against the casuals.

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#10 Serraph105
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congratulations you have no life jump up and down and clap for yourself oh wait whats that? you cant actually get up off the couch? well its true what they say you are what u eat and u obviouslydevoured a big old fat guy didnt.
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#11 hyruledweller
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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]This reminds me of racism and prejudice. jetthrovegas

You do not choose your race. You do choose your games. I have every right to be prejudiced against the casuals.

And what about prejudice?

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#12 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]meh. you sound more like an elitist gamer than anything else.jetthrovegas

I am an elitist gamer. I do not like casuals, and I do not like casual games. End of story.

why would a casual care what you think?

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#13 jetthrovegas
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congratulations you have no life jump up and down and clap for yourself oh wait whats that? you cant actually get up off the couch? well its true what they say you are what u eat and u obviouslydevoured a big old fat guy didnt.Serraph105

Wonderful rebuttal. Personal attacks always work as an effective counterattack when there is no other counterattack to be made.

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#14 hamstergeddon
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Good for you.  the only thing you said in that post was that you have no life and is mad that your kind is being replaced
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#15 ithilgore2006
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You sound more like someone trying to make himself sound superior and elite, but failing.
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#16 UKNintendoFreak
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meh. you sound more like an elitist gamer than anything else.Ontain

Too right. It's arrogant snobs like you, TC, who ruin gaming for people, not this stuff about "casual and hardcore" segregations egotistical people spit out. Games are games. Fun is fun. Get over it.

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#17 jetthrovegas
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[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]This reminds me of racism and prejudice. hyruledweller

You do not choose your race. You do choose your games. I have every right to be prejudiced against the casuals.

And what about prejudice?

I am prejudiced against casuals. Get over it. I do not respect them as gamers. Period.

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#18 Blackbond
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This is true. I just used my scouter and my Power Level is over 9,000. My brothers isn't. Therefor I am the superior gamer seeing as he is not my equal :roll:
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#19 dru26
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This was freaking awesome.... Preach on.
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#20 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]This reminds me of racism and prejudice. jetthrovegas

You do not choose your race. You do choose your games. I have every right to be prejudiced against the casuals.

And what about prejudice?

I am prejudiced against casuals. Get over it. I do not respect them as gamers. Period.

until you put up proof that you are a such a gamer as "hardcore" as you say you are, you are just a loser.

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#21 Grive
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Dear insecure desk jockey:

We don't actually care if you feel threatened by games that people can enjoy without having to first suffer through or train at.

We don't care that you can beat us at whatever "hardcore" game out there in order to inject some realization into your psyche.

We care about having a hobby that's entertaining and fun, a word you interestingly left out of your post.

- Gamers.

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#22 1337cole1337
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great post, im not even a hardcore gamer, i jsut want some decent god damn games.

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#23 jetthrovegas
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This was freaking awesome.... Preach on.dru26

Thanks, man.

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#24 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]This reminds me of racism and prejudice. jetthrovegas

You do not choose your race. You do choose your games. I have every right to be prejudiced against the casuals.

And what about prejudice?

I am prejudiced against casuals. Get over it. I do not respect them as gamers. Period.

Or maybe you should get over it. Your statements are sad and pathetic. To think that you would even judge someone or claim to not respect someone over something as trivial as video games. System Wars has reached a new low.

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#25 hamstergeddon
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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]This reminds me of racism and prejudice. jetthrovegas

You do not choose your race. You do choose your games. I have every right to be prejudiced against the casuals.

And what about prejudice?

I am prejudiced against casuals. Get over it. I do not respect them as gamers. Period.


dude, being harcore is one thing, but this is just pathetic.    Go outside, get a life, get a girlfriend or something, because you are taking gaming way too seriously.  Gaming is a pastime, a hobby.  Enjoy your hobby, let others enjoy your hobby, but don't let it consume you, which is exactly what you are doing, and now you're mad you aren't the gaming companies no. 1 concern.   
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#26 FireEmblem_Man
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Somehow this thread is going to be very ugly!!! You don't respect casual gamers??? In case you didn't know, you weren't born a hardcore (or elite) gamer!!!
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#27 Serraph105
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oh im sorry was that too mean? how about this then i consider myself to be a hardcore gamer i play Halo i absolutly love MGS ive played all the way the RE4 and every zelda game since the OOT and i completly rock at SSBM and yet when i have a party nowadays everybody including my friends who love the same things as i do absolutley love games like wii sports yeah we still break out halo and gears of war but everybody including the girls (whom i'm assuming you have never had one in your house before) get involved with jumping up and down when they make a hit or score point in tennis so what im saying is these new and original games actually can appeal to everybody and how dare nintendo try and save themselves from going the way of Sega
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#28 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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They're games aren't they? Not the basis for social segregration and prejudice.

And Viva Pinata rocks.

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#29 BillGates_Money
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so what say that to my face to face!! reppin for the casuals
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#30 jetthrovegas
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Dear insecure desk jockey:

We don't actually care if you feel threatened by games that people can enjoy without having to first suffer through or train at.

We don't care that you can beat us at whatever "hardcore" game out there in order to inject some realization into your psyche.

We care about having a hobby that's entertaining and fun, a word you interestingly left out of your post.

- Gamers.

Grive

Dear Casual,

Your idea of fun is not mine. I do not think that playing games that require no skill is "fun". I do not regard games that are simplistic and easy as "fun". I like games that require thought and precision, and skill.Your definition of "fun" is in INFERIOR, as are your games.

-The REAL gamers.

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#31 samusarmada
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u called zack and wiki casual......

lmao, tell me what makes halo 3 and killzone more harcore than zack and wiki :lol:

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#33 kittykatz5k
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Dear TC:
Casuals is a term used for those guys who are like talking about halo and such in class but don't exacally post on internet forums and get into the whole religion of it. Non gamers I guess it wahat you're trying to tlak about, and I don't see how zach and wiki is a non gamers game... point nad clicks have exsisted long before ocmpetitive fps's in te gaming library.
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#34 Ragashahs
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why no love for Little big planet? it seemes kinda kiddy but once people start to creat their own world they can be anthing. emo theme, death metal, rap, anything.
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#35 Blackbond
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Dear Casual gamer,

I am better than you at games. I have faster reflexes.

jetthrovegas

You realize tons of professional athletes are casual gamers right? You really think you have faster reflexes then a Quarterback, a Pitcher, a Running Back? I'm sorry but you self owned your self on your first two sentence sof this dreadful post. You can't equate hand eye coordination in a video game to faster reflexes. Would you be able to dodge my punch if I throw it at your chest? Would you be able to avoid being tackled in a game of football by somone of your own physical ability? Sounds like you are bragging about a wasteful ability.

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#36 jetthrovegas
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u called zack and wiki casual......

lmao, tell me what makes halo 3 and killzone more harcore than zack and wiki :lol:

samusarmada

Since when is Halo hardcore? LMFAO!!!

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#37 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]

u called zack and wiki casual......

lmao, tell me what makes halo 3 and killzone more harcore than zack and wiki :lol:

jetthrovegas

Since when is Halo hardcore? LMFAO!!!

and killzone is then :?

tell me whats the difference between halo, killzone or crysis in terms of being hardcore.

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#38 jetthrovegas
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[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

Dear Casual gamer,

I am better than you at games. I have faster reflexes.

Blackbond

You realize tons of professional athletes are casual gamers right? You really think you have faster reflexes then a Quarterback, a Pitcher, a Running Back? I'm sorry but you self owned your self on your first sentence of this dreadful post.


Faster gaming reflexes. I could own any athlete casual gamer in any shooter, anytime.
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#39 BillGates_Money
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am i not a hardcore gamer because i dont have a gaming pc?
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#40 akif22
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think of what Iwata said yesterday at the press conference

he hopes that a lot of today's casuals end up as hardcore gamers one day

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#41 Spartan070
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You =/= Hardcore gamer.

You = Snobby Elitist.

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#42 mtradr43
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If you want to put it all this way, then crysis is a casual game to. Tell that to hermits like yourself and see what they say. Crysis doesnt do anythign any other shooter is doing.

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Dear Casual gamer,

I am better than you at games. I have faster reflexes, I have more skill, I could kill you in any multiplayer shooter of your choice, anytime, anyday. I can beat System Shock 2 on the Impossible difficulty. You cannot. I can beat Resident Evil 4 on professional in 8 hours and 11 minutes. You cannot. I can play games that you do not have the skill or devotion to play. I am a better gamer than you.

Dear Casual games,

I will not play you. I will not play Zack and Wiki, I will not play WiiPlay, I will not play Dewy's Adventure, I will not play LBP and I will not play ****ing Viva Pinata. I am a hardcore gamer, and you casual games to not appeal to me in the slightest.

Dear Nintendo,

I will not buy a Wii. I will not stand on a piece of plastic and have it tell me what a fatass I am. I will not wave a plastic phallus erratically to make my game character do want I want him or her or it to do. I will not buy a system from a company that no longer thinks that I am important. I will not buy a system from a company whose biggest game at E3 was not a game at all, but rather a Fatass Accusation Device (fad).

I do not have to like or accept casual gamers, I do not have like or understand casual games. Am I close minded? Hell yes. Am I "slowing down innovation"? If innovation is a hunk of plastic that lets me know that I need to excercise, then hell yeah I am slowing down innovation.

Am I alone? Hell no! There are many gamers like me who would rather play Elder Scrolls than Dewy's Adventure.

I am not alone; I am part of a market. And Nintendo is ignoring us, and as such I will ignore them. To hell with your casual games!

I am a Hardcore gamer dammit!

jetthrovegas

*Standing Ovation*

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#44 jetthrovegas
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You =/= Hardcore gamer.

You = Snobby Elitist.

Spartan070

You say Elitist like it's a bad thing....

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#45 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

You =/= Hardcore gamer.

You = Snobby Elitist.

jetthrovegas

You say Elitist like it's a bad thing....

like i said earlier, until you give proof of your ultimate greatness, you are nothing but a sniveling wannabe.

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#46 kittykatz5k
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

You =/= Hardcore gamer.

You = Snobby Elitist.

jetthrovegas

You say Elitist like it's a bad thing....

It means you have a blindly love of your own abuility like you're a god. That's not a good thing...

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#47 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

Dear Casual gamer,

I am better than you at games. I have faster reflexes.

jetthrovegas

You realize tons of professional athletes are casual gamers right? You really think you have faster reflexes then a Quarterback, a Pitcher, a Running Back? I'm sorry but you self owned your self on your first sentence of this dreadful post.


Faster gaming reflexes. I could own any athlete casual gamer in any shooter, anytime.

Oh know faster gaming reflexes :lol:

Wow, just wow lol. You go ahead and brag about your faster gaming reflexes lol. Lets see how far they get you in life. Thinking your superior then other individuals because of a silly video game. Video games are fun. They are enjoyable for everyone. People like you are sad because they act as if being good in a video game makes you better then another individual. You're acting silly man. Its a freaking Video GAME. You go ahead and brag about your video game ability. Oh wow. You claim you have such superior reflexes? Why don't you play fighting games then huh? You don't have superior reflexes. You have superior amounts of time to waste on gaming.

I want you to take this reflex test. We shall see how fast your reflexes truely are

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Dear Casual gamer,

I am better than you at games. I have faster reflexes, I have more skill, I could kill you in any multiplayer shooter of your choice, anytime, anyday. I can beat System Shock 2 on the Impossible difficulty. You cannot. I can beat Resident Evil 4 on professional in 8 hours and 11 minutes. You cannot. I can play games that you do not have the skill or devotion to play. I am a better gamer than you, and I have no life.

Dear Casual games,

I will not play you. I will not play Zack and Wiki, I will not play WiiPlay, I will not play Dewy's Adventure, I will not play LBP and I will not play ****ing Viva Pinata. I am a hardcore gamer, and you casual games to not appeal to me in the slightest. And I have no life.

Dear Nintendo,

I will not buy a Wii. I will not stand on a piece of plastic and have it tell me what a fatass I am. I will not wave a plastic phallus erratically to make my game character do want I want him or her or it to do. I will not buy a system from a company that no longer thinks that I am important. I will not buy a system from a company whose biggest game at E3 was not a game at all, but rather a Fatass Accusation Device (fad).

I do not have to like or accept casual gamers, I do not have like or understand casual games. Am I close minded? Hell yes. Am I "slowing down innovation"? If innovation is a hunk of plastic that lets me know that I need to excercise, then hell yeah I am slowing down innovation.

Am I alone? Hell no! There are many gamers like me who would rather play Elder Scrolls than Dewy's Adventure.

I am not alone; I am part of a market. And Nintendo is ignoring us, and as such I will ignore them. To hell with your casual games!

I am a Hardcore gamer dammit! and I have no life

jetthrovegas

fixed for truthiness

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#49 jetthrovegas
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[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

You =/= Hardcore gamer.

You = Snobby Elitist.

kittykatz5k

You say Elitist like it's a bad thing....

It means you have a blindly love of your own abuility like you're a god. That's not a good thing...

I do not blindly love my own ability. I love my own ability because I can see it plainly and clearly. I am an excellent gamer, and I am proud of my abilities. So what? Is it bad to take pride in your own ability now?

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#50 Spartan070
Member since 2004 • 16497 Posts
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

You =/= Hardcore gamer.

You = Snobby Elitist.

jetthrovegas

You say Elitist like it's a bad thing....

Go back and focus on my first line...