Noticed something playing GEARS that really has me worried about DVD9..

I notice when I play Annex on a intense map like Raven down where its constant action, I notice there is a big dip in the frame rate and there is noticeable slow down. I really havent noticed it before because I never really played annex on raven down i am starting to notice it in other smaller maps like escalation but it only happens when playing Annex, I think its because there is just so much action happening at one time and that really worries me, I mean if Gears has frame rate problems with only 8 people total on screen, the 360's future game lineup really has me worried and I think the slowdown is due to DVD9. BrutonNYC

The fact Annex is an update which means is on the hard drive is amazing. I didn't know it was because the lack of space on the disk. You are so smart.

I agree, DVD9 just isn't large enough to fit all the frames

I mean come on, 30+ frames per second?! 

You're gonna need AT LEAST 50gbs! 

Isn't raven down a map that wasn't on the disc?skixwolf

you would have that slowdown even if there was no disc on the drive but.....THIS THREAD IS STUPID!

 DESTROY HIM!!!!!!!!:lol: 

you have no idea what you are talking about.  framerate has nothing to do with dvdsdarrowby88

if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.InfamousC

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

I wouldnt be laughing so hard. Most of you guys still think the disc size has any kind of connection to the games length or the world's size - or worse the game's graphics.XaosII

Not really the people in this thread: considering it would be mostly lemmings defending DVD9, and it's cows who claim DVD9 will limit the games length or map size. 

if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.InfamousC

It's not the DVD9. It's the processor. It's not as powerful as the Cell.Sexy_FFVII

if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.InfamousC

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Ok, that does it. Cows are officially the most illogical fanboys.

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

Medjai

if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.InfamousC

It's not the DVD9. It's the processor. It's not as powerful as the Cell.Sexy_FFVII

if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.InfamousC

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Ok, that does it. Cows are officially the most illogical fanboys.

Pro_wrestler

Flamebait sucks these days, where's yo_foo when you need him? I mean come on fanboys, do something creative.pundog

[QUOTE="Medjai"]

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

Chris-Hansen

ok, so how fast is the inside track then?

*EDIT* and how am I wrong? I wrote maximum read speed...and even if the inside track is slower are you telling me its 7MB/s slower? I don't think so...

I notice when I play Annex on a intense map like Raven down where its constant action, I notice there is a big dip in the frame rate and there is noticeable slow down. I really havent noticed it before because I never really played annex on raven down i am starting to notice it in other smaller maps like escalation but it only happens when playing Annex, I think its because there is just so much action happening at one time and that really worries me, I mean if Gears has frame rate problems with only 8 people total on screen, the 360's future game lineup really has me worried and I think the slowdown is due to DVD9. BrutonNYC

Have you been paid by Sony to try to fool stupid lemming kids?

It's not the DVD9. It's the processor. It's not as powerful as the Cell.Sexy_FFVII

Oh ok sure.....lets all not forget that its the gpu that renders each frame...and anyway the map is loaded into ram, unless its streamed of the disk. But it doesnt matter because its not dvd9s fault 

Hmmmm...  sarcasm is mising from the Lemmings' brain.

Hmmmm... sarcasm is mising from the Lemmings' brain.

Sexy_FFVII

If your talking to me then sorry....lol its hard to tell sometimes, you know, with half the people on these fourms been ****** fanboys .. 

I notice when I play Annex on a intense map like Raven down where its constant action, I notice there is a big dip in the frame rate and there is noticeable slow down. I really havent noticed it before because I never really played annex on raven down i am starting to notice it in other smaller maps like escalation but it only happens when playing Annex, I think its because there is just so much action happening at one time and that really worries me, I mean if Gears has frame rate problems with only 8 people total on screen, the 360's future game lineup really has me worried and I think the slowdown is due to DVD9. BrutonNYC

I don't know where to start off :| 

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Ok, that does it. Cows are officially the most illogical fanboys.

Chris-Hansen

1. I can make whatever decisions I want based on what I see.
2. I did'nt see that barcode post or else I would have flamed him myself cause thats obviously stupid.
3. Power means nothing if you can never use it, I doubt you will see a significant difference in PS3 or Xbox 360 graphics for the rest of this gen. Most of the Multiplat lauch games on the PS3 looked better on MSs SKU could it be because its extra strength?
4. Why does graphics matter to you PS3 fanboys so much?

Well, you just exposed how little you know about computer hardware. Thank you and good night.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.killab2oo5

hey man im just telling it like it is.

[QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Medjai"]

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

Medjai

ok, so how fast is the inside track then?

*EDIT* and how am I wrong? I wrote maximum read speed...and even if the inside track is slower are you telling me its 7MB/s slower? I don't think so...

But here's an important fact: XBox DVDs are filled from the outside in--because they start on the second layer.

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

Medjai

notice the key word there? it means it doesnt read at this speed at all times while ps3 does. now which would you rather have?

Gears runs great for the most part but there are times only in multiplayer where you may get slowdown which happens in any multiplayer cause it has to deal with other people's connections.

Even if everybody has broadband that doesn't mean that somebody isn't using a PC with the same connection or some other hardware which uses the internet.

Also there is poor internet speed problems with some DSL services.

As far as the cows saying "this problem wouldn't happen with the cell" should check out all the reviews and their own games that have framerate issues.

 Since the Ps3 was priced too high and it's pain to develop for there are hardly any games flying onto that system that had the same development time as the 360. They may have delayed the launch due to "the blu-ray issue" but devs had plenty of time to make games for that piece of crap.

[QUOTE="Medjai"]

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

InfamousC

notice the key word there? it means it doesnt read at this speed at all times while ps3 does. now which would you rather have?

Obviously people would rather buy the 360 + Wii more than just the Ps3 which is a more expensive combination . You can defend the Ps3 all you want which is most likely a lot since you are still waiting for good games to hit the Ps3.

[QUOTE="Medjai"][QUOTE="Chris-Hansen"][QUOTE="Medjai"]

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

HuusAsking

ok, so how fast is the inside track then?

*EDIT* and how am I wrong? I wrote maximum read speed...and even if the inside track is slower are you telling me its 7MB/s slower? I don't think so...

But here's an important fact: XBox DVDs are filled from the outside in--because they start on the second layer.

if that is accurate which I am not sure it is...a DVD reads at between 16MB/s and  8.31MB/s? i dunno that doesn't sound right but even if it is DVD's avg. speed is still 12MB/s or so...parts that are data intensive can be put on the fastest part of the disk

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.Pro_wrestler

It's not the DVD9. It's the processor. It's not as powerful as the Cell.Sexy_FFVII

if this game was run using the power of the cell you wouldnt have this problem.InfamousC

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Ok, that does it. Cows are officially the most illogical fanboys.

[QUOTE="pundog"]Flamebait sucks these days, where's yo_foo when you need him? I mean come on fanboys, do something creative.Chris-Hansen

[QUOTE="Medjai"]

everyone has hit my points...

Annex is DLC so it is running off the harddrive

the DVD drive in the 360 is 12x DVD drive, capable of a maximum read rate of 15.9 MB/s

PS3 uses a 2x BD drive, which is 9MB/second and an 8x DVD

InfamousC

notice the key word there? it means it doesnt read at this speed at all times while ps3 does. now which would you rather have?