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#1 Anberlin_2004
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"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

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#2 cloudff7tm
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Yeah, I think he has to say things like that, but i bet he truly believes it.

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#3 Ninja-Hippo
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It's been called the Star Wars of the joypad generation, that is true... by microsoft. :P
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biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

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#5 Blaze-Agent
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biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

Aboogie5

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

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#6 mysterj
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Yes CoD is a lot bigger, and a lot more milked.
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#7 kuraimen
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Biggest generic shooter franchise maybe.
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#8 ReaperV7
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ya and the hamburgler stole a hotdog the other day. :roll:

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#9 delta3074
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Halo franchise 34 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(series) cal of duty 55 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty mario 210 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario gran tourismo 56 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_(series) that guy should have just looked it up on wikipedia,however, Halo 2 is the fastest selling game in history with 2.4 million copies being shifted in one day http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_Fastest_selling_video_games
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#10 RavenLoud
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They sure have quite an ego there.

Also, in Europe Halo is really nothing special, and in Asia people don't even know about it.

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#11 SolidTy
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PR does what PR does, it's there job. :P

I wouldn't be surprised though if he comes home from work to his family playing Mario games all the time, lol.

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#12 TheShadowLord07
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well im not sure about the other big games. but I do know halo has a lots of things like books,graphic novels,soundtracks,movie,toys,adult collectible toys (there's a difference between the two),clothing, and I guess there is more. a little similiar to star wars.

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Halo > Mario.
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I don't know what is more funny, his statement or how upset people get about it. Oh noes my beloved Mario and GT, how dare you compare, how dare!?

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#15 TheShadowLord07
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I don't know what is more funny, his statement or how upset people get about it. Oh noes my beloved Mario and GT, how dare you compare, how dare!?

Frostbite24

both really

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#16 delta3074
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Halo > Mario.DrOldGuy
not really, mario has over 200 games with 210 million sales, Halo only has 6 games with 35 million in sales, yeah i would rather play Halo, but theres no denying that Mario is the biggest gaming franchise in history, Halo, i am afraid, is not even close.
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#17 Frostbite24
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It's been called the Star Wars of the joypad generation, that is true... by microsoft. :PNinja-Hippo
So it's true then =D
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#18 Frostbite24
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This director is obviously glossing over the comparative sales of these franchises but he is also including Halo's pop culture presence in his statement. I'm pretty sure as a pop culture icon Halo is right up there with Mario and I don't think Mario has been on Mountain Dew...yet :P

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#19 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="DrOldGuy"]Halo > Mario.delta3074
not really, mario has over 200 games with 210 million sales, Halo only has 6 games with 35 million in sales, yeah i would rather play Halo, but theres no denying that Mario is the biggest gaming franchise in history, Halo, i am afraid, is not even close.

wait I thought halo 3 had over $300 million in sales?

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#20 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DrOldGuy"]Halo > Mario.TheShadowLord07

not really, mario has over 200 games with 210 million sales, Halo only has 6 games with 35 million in sales, yeah i would rather play Halo, but theres no denying that Mario is the biggest gaming franchise in history, Halo, i am afraid, is not even close.

wait I thought halo 3 had over $300 million in sales?

no, 35 million GAMES sold, i apologise, i should have been more specific, if you are talking Money, Halo has more than $1.7 billion in sales, thats all Halo though, including bboks,tshirts,etc.
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#22 DarkStraberry
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So popular that it is getting its own next gen console
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#23 Anberlin_2004
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well im not sure about the other big games. but I do know halo has a lots of things like books,graphic novels,soundtracks,movie,toys,adult collectible toys (there's a difference between the two),clothing, and I guess there is more. a little similiar to star wars.

TheShadowLord07

In order to even compare with Star Wars, Halo will need to maintain it's popularity until the year 2027 much like Star Wars and Mario have for the last 25 years.

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[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

Blaze-Agent

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

A franchise is not limited to only one product.

Halo as a franchise is much bigger than CoD and GT. I'd go as far to say the only company with franchises larger than Halo would be Nintendo with Pokemon and Mario.

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#25 Anberlin_2004
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Here is a link to the biggest franchises (video game): http://www.bukisa.com/articles/259315_the-best-selling-video-game-franchises

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#26 TBoogy
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"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

Anberlin_2004
It all depends on how you define it. People should have learned this by now. Yes, Mario has sold more games. But just like Avatar took top film with less sales because of current day ticket prices, maybe Halo wins when you add in all the other stuff (books, etc) plus look at it in todays dollars.
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#27 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Anberlin_2004"]

"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

TBoogy

It all depends on how you define it. People should have learned this by now. Yes, Mario has sold more games. But just like Avatar took top film with less sales because of current day ticket prices, maybe Halo wins when you add in all the other stuff (books, etc) plus look at it in todays dollars.

If we are to look at it by todays dollars then MArio has definately made more money than Halo. Pokemon would fit the bill more than Halo IMO. Because that series is Far Far bigger than Halo and they have books, tv shows, t-shirts, shoes, hats, bookbags. You name it man.

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#28 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="Anberlin_2004"]

"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

Blaze-Agent

It all depends on how you define it. People should have learned this by now. Yes, Mario has sold more games. But just like Avatar took top film with less sales because of current day ticket prices, maybe Halo wins when you add in all the other stuff (books, etc) plus look at it in todays dollars.

If we are to look at it by todays dollars then MArio has definately made more money than Halo. Pokemon would fit the bill more than Halo IMO. Because that series is Far Far bigger than Halo and they have books, tv shows, t-shirts, shoes, hats, bookbags. You name it man.

I guess by "todays dollars" I meant game prices today versus back in the day. But yeah, Mario seems the obvious exception.
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#29 Anberlin_2004
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[QUOTE="Anberlin_2004"]

"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

TBoogy
It all depends on how you define it. People should have learned this by now. Yes, Mario has sold more games. But just like Avatar took top film with less sales because of current day ticket prices, maybe Halo wins when you add in all the other stuff (books, etc) plus look at it in todays dollars.

Even the most recent Halo game was outsold by New Super Mario Bros Wii. So, even if we take an Avatar approach, Halo is not the top dog.
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#30 martinX3X
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You could ask anyone on the street and i guarentee you over 50% of them will know who mario is.

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#31 Anberlin_2004
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You could ask anyone on the street and i guarentee you over 50% of them will know who mario is.

martinX3X
Exactly. And that pretty much means everyone (old, young, middle age).
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I don't know what is more funny, his statement or how upset people get about it. Oh noes my beloved Mario and GT, how dare you compare, how dare!?

Frostbite24

Wait noez I am so mad now! The Xbox director thinks Halo is bigger than GT and Mario!!!! I am boiling over with rage now!

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Oh btw this gen Halo is bigger than Mario or GT...sooo

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I remember the guy at Gearbox who resurrected Duke Nukem Forever said something like Duke Nukem being the biggest game character ever, next to Laura Croft. I won't doubt that Duke Nukem is somewhere on the list of biggest video game characters... But he is not THE biggest of them all.
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#35 Blaze-Agent
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Oh btw this gen Halo is bigger than Mario or GT...sooo

TacticalDesire

This Gen Mario 2d has outsold HALO 3 and ODST Combined.

Mario KArt Wii has done the sane. Once again You are still wrong.

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[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

Blaze-Agent

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

Only because it's Multi platform. Both GTA and COD If they were Exclusives then theres no way they would be bigger than Halo this gen. Mario is the only one thats bigger.
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#37 True_Chaos_UK
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Shocking news xbox director promotes own product just before new game hits market.

What do you expect him to say?

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[QUOTE="Anberlin_2004"]

"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

Yeah,,,, it's just PR spin, like Sony saying "PS3 it just does everything." lol!!
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

Raymundo_Manuel

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

A franchise is not limited to only one product.

Halo as a franchise is much bigger than CoD and GT. I'd go as far to say the only company with franchises larger than Halo would be Nintendo with Pokemon and Mario.

we counting books now? Oh please get that outt here. We talking about games. Period. Thats like saying GT is bigger than MArio because it appears several times on Top Gear (a show with 300 million viewers).

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#40 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Oh btw this gen Halo is bigger than Mario or GT...sooo

Blaze-Agent

This Gen Mario 2d has outsold HALO 3 and ODST Combined.

Mario KArt Wii has done the sane. Once again You are still wrong.

Still wrong? When was I wrong the first time? Also you do realize there are more things that define the word "bigger" than just sales...you are amusing.

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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

walkingdream

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

Only because it's Multi platform. Both GTA and COD If they were Exclusives then theres no way they would be bigger than Halo this gen. Mario is the only one thats bigger.

yuppp

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#42 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

walkingdream

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

Only because it's Multi platform. Both GTA and COD If they were Exclusives then theres no way they would be bigger than Halo this gen. Mario is the only one thats bigger.

How about this. COD is bigger on the xbox 360 than Halo is this Gen. It has sold more than Halo even when you count individual platforms. COD on 360 alone as sold more than Halo 3 and Halo ODST.

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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

Blaze-Agent

A franchise is not limited to only one product.

Halo as a franchise is much bigger than CoD and GT. I'd go as far to say the only company with franchises larger than Halo would be Nintendo with Pokemon and Mario.

we counting books now? Oh please get that outt here. We talking about games. Period. Thats like saying GT is bigger than MArio because it appears several times on Top Gear (a show with 300 million viewers).

Doesn't a franchise define everything that is involved in it? The Lord of the Rings Franchise includes the books, movies, games, soundtracks, books about the lore...etc...looks like your wrong when it comes to defining what a franchise is.

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#44 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

Blaze-Agent

Only because it's Multi platform. Both GTA and COD If they were Exclusives then theres no way they would be bigger than Halo this gen. Mario is the only one thats bigger.

How about this. COD is bigger on the xbox 360 than Halo is this Gen. It has sold more than Halo even when you count individual platforms. COD on 360 alone as sold more than Halo 3 and Halo ODST.

Link?....
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#45 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Oh btw this gen Halo is bigger than Mario or GT...sooo

TacticalDesire

This Gen Mario 2d has outsold HALO 3 and ODST Combined.

Mario KArt Wii has done the sane. Once again You are still wrong.

Still wrong? When was I wrong the first time? Also you do realize there are more things that define the word "bigger" than just sales...you are amusing.

Wow really please do share. And you were wrong as soon as you said that This gen Halo is bigger than Mario. (GT i'll give you since GT5 has not released yet, but not Mario). Please do tell by the way what constitutes big in your eyes.

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#46 Anberlin_2004
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[QUOTE="Anberlin_2004"]

"Halo is the biggest video game series in history and as a pop culture icon it's been called the Star Wars for the joypad generation," said Xbox and Entertainment director Stephen McGill.

I think he forgot to say "one of" because Mario has Halo beat by a landslide. Of course we all know that it's the director's job to forget about stuff like facts. :^)

blackace

Yeah,,,, it's just PR spin, like Sony saying "PS3 it just does everything." lol!!

"You can't believe everything you see on the Internet."

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#47 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

A franchise is not limited to only one product.

Halo as a franchise is much bigger than CoD and GT. I'd go as far to say the only company with franchises larger than Halo would be Nintendo with Pokemon and Mario.

TacticalDesire

we counting books now? Oh please get that outt here. We talking about games. Period. Thats like saying GT is bigger than MArio because it appears several times on Top Gear (a show with 300 million viewers).

Doesn't a franchise define everything that is involved in it? The Lord of the Rings Franchise ..etc...looks like your wrong when it comes to defining what a franchise is.

This is a gaming forum. And even when i use your example halo still is not close. POKEMON includes the books, movies, games, soundtracks, books about the lore. So calling Halo the biggest is still wrong.

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#48 TheMaryCeleste
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

Blaze-Agent

Only because it's Multi platform. Both GTA and COD If they were Exclusives then theres no way they would be bigger than Halo this gen. Mario is the only one thats bigger.

How about this. COD is bigger on the xbox 360 than Halo is this Gen. It has sold more than Halo even when you count individual platforms. COD on 360 alone as sold more than Halo 3 and Halo ODST.

No, it's not even close to Halo 3.

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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"] Only because it's Multi platform. Both GTA and COD If they were Exclusives then theres no way they would be bigger than Halo this gen. Mario is the only one thats bigger. walkingdream

How about this. COD is bigger on the xbox 360 than Halo is this Gen. It has sold more than Halo even when you count individual platforms. COD on 360 alone as sold more than Halo 3 and Halo ODST.

Link?....

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&publisher=&console=X360&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Mind you MW2 was released less than a year ago and its still charting in NPDs monthly

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#50 SkaRy_RuLeZ
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]

biggest video game franchise.. really? cod franchise is bigger...

Raymundo_Manuel

COD is Bigger

MArio is Bigger

GT is Bigger

shall we continue?

A franchise is not limited to only one product.

Halo as a franchise is much bigger than CoD and GT. I'd go as far to say the only company with franchises larger than Halo would be Nintendo with Pokemon and Mario.

Then you can add tons of other franchises with video games that are massively larger than Halo. Start with Transformers, Spider-Man, and Ironman and don't forget to pass through Hello Kitty and Toy Story.

Halo as a franchise is insignificant. As a game collection it has a lot of relevance, but still overshadowed by a lot of other game products.