Now it's confirmed: GT 5 will be better than Forza 3

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kz2 is better than halo reach because i can go out and buy kz2.

that has to be right, im sure it is.

oh dear. I fear that you may have owned someone

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[QUOTE="racing1750"] If nothing special is a 9.5/10 i wouldn't wanna play many games :Pracing1750

Well...9.5/10 is Gamespot opinion, if he didn't like then it's his freedom

Still no differences, Uncharted 2 scored 96/100 on Metacritic but I like MGS 4 which only scored 94/100 more than Uncharted 2

Everybody already knows that Forza 3 is a good game but if by any chance n00bkid didn't like then it's fine

Nice OP, good job TC. :)

This summer can't come soon enough.

Forza 3 will look like a last gen game in comparison when GT5 comes out. This will be AAAAEParasomniac

It isn't confirmed until you can actually play it. BUT it does look to have a damn good chance of being better.

In fact, IT SHOULD BE. It damn sure took 'em long enough. There have been 2 Forza games out since the last GT game. All of that development time should yield better results.

It's kind of a given. A game that takes 5 years to make should look better than a game that only took 2. But what the hell do I know, I'm only using logic.

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[QUOTE="GeneralHawx"] Yea I came from the future don't cha know lolGeneralHawx

When is Duke Nukem Forever released?

Can't tell you my time machine only goes foward a 150 years ;)

Sorry your time machine does not go foward far enough , so I know you haven;t played it.

Forza 3 is only better if you like racing against pink Ferrari's with ricey bodykits online :lol:

Just wondering..... Can I paint my car and upgrade it in gt5 yet ?

Forza 3 is only better if you like racing against pink Ferrari's with ricey bodykits online :lol:

EliteKitteh

1000+ cars by itself is straight up amazing.

But the thing that just made me excited was night on all tracks. Weather is exciting also.

I'm pretty excited about this game.

But I don't think its right to say its confirmed to be better than Forza 3. Not yet anyways

1000+ cars by itself is straight up amazing.

But the thing that just made me excited was night on all tracks. Weather is exciting also.

I'm pretty excited about this game.

But I don't think its right to say its confirmed to be better than Forza 3. Not yet anyways

good_sk8er7

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When is Duke Nukem Forever released?

Ultra_Combo

Can't tell you my time machine only goes foward a 150 years ;)

Sorry your time machine does not go foward far enough , so I know you haven;t played it.

Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. enterawesome

kz2 is better than halo reach because i can go out and buy kz2.

that has to be right, im sure it is.

ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. ZoomZoom2490

Turn 10 was founded in 2003...:?

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

kz2 is better than halo reach because i can go out and buy kz2.

that has to be right, im sure it is.

FIipMode

But ah, he thought he was being clever.

Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. enterawesome

Turn 10 has been making pretty much the same game over and over.

PD has been experimenting with different race types such as F1, Rally, the typical eco class, JGTC, Le Mans, NASCAR and now Indy cars which all need extensive testing to make sure they handle right. Now they are adding elements such as weather on each track which would make for a completely different driving experience on each track compared to dry tarmac.

All of this with 1000+ cars.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. SupraGT

Turn 10 has been making pretty much the same game over and over.

PD has been experimenting with different race types such as F1, Rally, the typical eco class, JGTC, Le Mans, NASCAR and now Indy cars which all need extensive testing to make sure they handle right. Now they are adding elements such as weather on each track which would make for a completely different driving experience on each track compared to dry tarmac.

All of this with 1000+ cars.

If Turn 10 made the same game over and over I'm pretty sure by F3, it wouldnt have gotten a 9.5

Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. enterawesome

This is in no way correct and ignores Tourist Trophy.

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kz2 is better than halo reach because i can go out and buy kz2.

that has to be right, im sure it is.

FIipMode

I think you both missed the rationale behind such a remark as it applies to gt 5 and forza3.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. SupraGT

Turn 10 has been making pretty much the same game over and over.

PD has been experimenting with different race types such as F1, Rally, the typical eco class, JGTC, Le Mans, NASCAR and now Indy cars which all need extensive testing to make sure they handle right. Now they are adding elements such as weather on each track which would make for a completely different driving experience on each track compared to dry tarmac.

All of this with 1000+ cars.

It isn't confirmed until you can actually play it. BUT it does look to have a damn good chance of being better.

In fact, IT SHOULD BE. It damn sure took 'em long enough. There have been 2 Forza games out since the last GT game. All of that development time should yield better results.

It's kind of a given. A game that takes 5 years to make should look better than a game that only took 2. But what the hell do I know, I'm only using logic.

heretrix

Wouldn't logic insist you take into account the size of the respective workforces and the content they produced in addition to the time-span?

For example, there will be about 1000 cars available in GT 5. Forza 2 had 349 (including downloadable content) and Forza 3 has 454 (including the 10 from this month's car packs). Even assuming Turn 10 remodelled every car from Forza 2 and ignoring that very few of the Forza 2 cars had fully modelled cockpits, PD will have produced about 20% more cars in a few more months time (less than 10% more time). Tracks are a bit more complicated. Forza 2 had 12 locations all of which returned in Forza 3's 21 locations versus the vague, "more than 20" due in GT 5. This, of course, is also ignoring PD's other 2 projects (Tourist Trophy and GT PSP).

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. 93soccer

Turn 10 has been making pretty much the same game over and over.

PD has been experimenting with different race types such as F1, Rally, the typical eco class, JGTC, Le Mans, NASCAR and now Indy cars which all need extensive testing to make sure they handle right. Now they are adding elements such as weather on each track which would make for a completely different driving experience on each track compared to dry tarmac.

All of this with 1000+ cars.

how is this ignorant?

They carry over the same physics code from the original game and make small changes to improve it or what not from iteration to iteration.

They can release forza 4 in 5 months if they want to.

On the other hand, PD has completely revamped their physics model which they probably have been working on since the release of GT4.

GT1,2,3,4 and Gt5 prologue all used the same basic code.

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Turn 10 made 3 AAA Forza games in the timespan of the devolopment of a single GT, whose previous iteration scored AA. Forza > GT. 93soccer

Turn 10 has been making pretty much the same game over and over.

PD has been experimenting with different race types such as F1, Rally, the typical eco class, JGTC, Le Mans, NASCAR and now Indy cars which all need extensive testing to make sure they handle right. Now they are adding elements such as weather on each track which would make for a completely different driving experience on each track compared to dry tarmac.

All of this with 1000+ cars.

1000+ cars? Where have we heard a large quantity of numbers in a game before? MAG anyone? Not saying its gonna flop but 1000+ cars does not guarentee you an AAAAE.

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It isn't confirmed until you can actually play it. BUT it does look to have a damn good chance of being better.

In fact, IT SHOULD BE. It damn sure took 'em long enough. There have been 2 Forza games out since the last GT game. All of that development time should yield better results.

It's kind of a given. A game that takes 5 years to make should look better than a game that only took 2. But what the hell do I know, I'm only using logic.

asylumni

Wouldn't logic insist you take into account the size of the respective workforces and the content they produced in addition to the time-span?

For example, there will be about 1000 cars available in GT 5. Forza 2 had 349 (including downloadable content) and Forza 3 has 454 (including the 10 from this month's car packs). Even assuming Turn 10 remodelled every car from Forza 2 and ignoring that very few of the Forza 2 cars had fully modelled cockpits, PD will have produced about 20% more cars in a few more months time (less than 10% more time). Tracks are a bit more complicated. Forza 2 had 12 locations all of which returned in Forza 3's 21 locations versus the vague, "more than 20" due in GT 5. This, of course, is also ignoring PD's other 2 projects (Tourist Trophy and GT PSP).

All of that is "in theory" until the game is released.

After so many years and so many delays, it better be, or else.

No gt5 lost the ability to be better when it can't come out in a timely manner, they waited for the competition to come out and they push the release date back to match it forza and one up it. It failed at being the better game when it didn't come out.

No gt5 lost the ability to be better when it can't come out in a timely manner, they waited for the competition to come out and they push the release date back to match it forza and one up it. It failed at being the better game when it didn't come out.

savagetwinkie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIeqSEVQzY8&feature=related

no guys, clearly forza 3 is the king of racers......GT5 fans eat this !!!!!!

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Turn 10 has been making pretty much the same game over and over.

PD has been experimenting with different race types such as F1, Rally, the typical eco class, JGTC, Le Mans, NASCAR and now Indy cars which all need extensive testing to make sure they handle right. Now they are adding elements such as weather on each track which would make for a completely different driving experience on each track compared to dry tarmac.

All of this with 1000+ cars.

SupraGT

how is this ignorant?

They carry over the same physics code from the original game and make small changes to improve it or what not from iteration to iteration.

They can release forza 4 in 5 months if they want to.

On the other hand, PD has completely revamped their physics model which they probably have been working on since the release of GT4.

GT1,2,3,4 and Gt5 prologue all used the same basic code.

So according to your logic, a game in a series can't be the same?? Alrighty then :?

Besides, as if GT hasnt done that (as pointed out by you)

Who cares..... If this one ever comes out, Forza3shall remain#1 anyways ;)

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No gt5 lost the ability to be better when it can't come out in a timely manner, they waited for the competition to come out and they push the release date back to match it forza and one up it. It failed at being the better game when it didn't come out.

FIipMode

Considering how much they probably are fitting onto the Blu Ray disc, and how huge GT has been there is no doubt that GT5 will be one of the best racing sims ever made. The real question, is if it will be the best? I think it could be, in fact I can almost see scores now.

Of course it does have some bad potential too, obviously flaws won't be disclosed like great features will, but even then I doubt GT5 will be nothing short of a resounding success on every level.

I for one am impressed with how many psychics and time-travellers there are on a videogame forum. beekayjay

Remember this is content, GT4 had way more than FM1, and yet was only a shell of a game in comparisonGulliversTravel

After so many years and so many delays, it better be, or else.

tbolt76

Didn't this **** get delayed again? Forza 4 will be out by the time GT 5 gets released.

Didn't this **** get delayed again? Forza 4 will be out by the time GT 5 gets released.

shoryuken_

On Topic. I care very little about the racing genre, but when i found out all the content they were packing into this game i find it hard to ignore. Plus it will be fun to go online with 15 other racers just to smash into them and screw their chances of winning.

*sigh* this game has never had a release date so how in the world has it been delayed?

On Topic. I care very little about the racing genre, but when i found out all the content they were packing into this game i find it hard to ignore. Plus it will be fun to go online with 15 other racers just to smash into them and screw their chances of winning.

brennan7777

I don't really know (or care) about the game. I was just going by word of mouth.

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Didn't this **** get delayed again? Forza 4 will be out by the time GT 5 gets released.

On Topic. I care very little about the racing genre, but when i found out all the content they were packing into this game i find it hard to ignore. Plus it will be fun to go online with 15 other racers just to smash into them and screw their chances of winning.

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Didn't this **** get delayed again? Forza 4 will be out by the time GT 5 gets released.

beekayjay

On Topic. I care very little about the racing genre, but when i found out all the content they were packing into this game i find it hard to ignore. Plus it will be fun to go online with 15 other racers just to smash into them and screw their chances of winning.