Now that each platform has a GOTY this gen...

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="LA_CA"]

i've played and loved all three... but honestly SMG and GeoW can't compare with MGS4.

The closest i've seen this gen are Bioshock and Fallout3

Chutebox

Uh, did I make sense?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] SMG can compare. Seriously, you guys need to stop making MGS4 out to be more than it really is.AAllxxjjnn

Uh, did I make sense?

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]SMG< < MGS4>>GEOWChutebox

Oh, you're sneaky.

I think you are underestimating the sneakiness. :P

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Who's to say it isn't to us saying the good things about it?

Uh, did I make sense?

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] You guys make it sound like no game can compare to MGS4. That's Overrating it. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] You guys make it sound like no game can compare to MGS4. That's Overrating it. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Well for me neither of those games, or any games since FF7 can compare to it. I know you dislike it though lol.TheGrat1

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Well for me neither of those games, or any games since FF7 can compare to it. I know you dislike it though lol.TheGrat1

-Controls are clunky and poor compared to other TPS game.

-Cover system is complete trash,

-Graphics were subpar aside from character models,

-Direction was far was from top notch: watch movies if you want to see good direction,

-story is full of deus ex machinas, plot holes, bad and redundant dialog,

-voice acting is not strong. -Powerful narrative overshadows gameplay.

-Stealth gameplay isn't up to genre standards (ie beginning of act III was boring, they could have executed the only forced stealth gameplay much better) -Essentially MGS3 with more refined controls nothing new in this regard ,

-Game is poorly paced because cut scenes tend to overshadow gameplay in the later half of the game.

-Drebin breaks stealth gameplay, you never really need to worry about the silencers losing their effect because you almost always have enough points to buy however many more you need.

-Drebin is also a lazy plot device to feed you overly sappy and depressing back stories to the bosses.

-Boss fights don't hold up to previous games. Much less original. The second part of the boss fight grew tiresome and repetitive.

-Story is too over the top to be taken seriously.

If it is ahead of anything, it's not ahead by much.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Well for me neither of those games, or any games since FF7 can compare to it. I know you dislike it though lol.Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Never said i disliked it, what i've said is it doesn't deserve all the praise and perfect(prime) ratings it gets. What did it do to put it's self so far ahead of any game sincce FF7?AAllxxjjnn

SMG > MGS > GeoWEuroMafia

[QUOTE="dgsag"]I played the demo on my brand-spanking new PS3, and I already think its the best game I've played in a long time.angry_fork

In everything other than gameplay.

Its barely a stealth game anymore.

Its still good, but the lack of sneaking (and this goes downhill as the game progresses) really f'd me off.

One of the best bits of the game for me was the

***spoiler***

flashback when you play as snake again from the original game

i haven't play smg but mgs4>>>gow (gow has good graphics but i never like its gameplay)

[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="dgsag"]I played the demo on my brand-spanking new PS3, and I already think its the best game I've played in a long time.angryfodder

In everything other than gameplay.

Its barely a stealth game anymore.

Its still good, but the lack of sneaking (and this goes downhill as the game progresses) really f'd me off.

One of the best bits of the game for me was the

**spoiler** (how do you make the spoiler tagging thing work??)

flashback when you play as snake again from the original game

Firstly, there is stealth in the new MGS game, it just depends on whether or not you want to use it or not. Its not forced upon you anymore, its a choice now.II_Seraphim_II

it starts off like that, and yes there is a little bit of it in the game, but it goes down hill rapidly. The first act is probably the best.

Later on the optional stealth goes out the window...and its never feels quite the same. Its been a while since I last palyed it, but from what I remember most of the stealth was more happening in the middle of battles. You didn't feel like the master of stealth undetected behind enemy lines.......you felt like a dude in a war zone running the other way.

IMO anyway.

The only level that I remember feeling like a MGS game is that bit back in shadow moses where you are sneaking past those odd sensor drones. The ones with the arms.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Firstly, there is stealth in the new MGS game, it just depends on whether or not you want to use it or not. Its not forced upon you anymore, its a choice now.angryfodder

it starts off like that, and yes there is a little bit of it in the game, but it goes down hill rapidly. The first act is probably the best.

Later on the optional stealth goes out the window...and its never feels quite the same. Its been a while since I last palyed it, but from what I remember most of the stealth was more happening in the middle of battles. You didn't feel like the master of stealth undetected behind enemy lines.......you felt like a dude in a war zone running the other way.

IMO anyway.

The only level that I remember feeling like a MGS game is that bit back in shadow moses where you are sneaking past those odd sensor drones. The ones with the arms.

Literally all of Act 3 was about stealth lol.Chutebox

Which one was that - I can't remember the act numers very well after the first - the game gets very cutscene heavy very fast? There was the one when you are a "tracker" and follow the footsteps. I thought this was a great idea, but just ended up feeling like it didn't work - the levels were too small and linear for it.

and then there was the bit were you are following the guy through the city - again, not bad, but it felt weak compared to the old games.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Literally all of Act 3 was about stealth lol.angryfodder

Which one was that - I can't remember the act numers very well after the first - the game gets very cutscene heavy very fast? There was the one when you are a "tracker" and follow the footsteps. I thought this was a great idea, but just ended up feeling like it didn't work - the levels were too small and linear for it.

and then there was the bit were you are following the guy through the city - again, not bad, but it felt weak compared to the old games.

They were all voted game of the year here but if you look elsewhere like Gametrailers Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid 4 didn't take game of the year there but Mario Galaxy did it was GOTY virtually everywhere.

Also Super Mario Galaxy is better than both. I think it was a nice idea to have Mario in space. The gravity idea worked really well ands most of all it was fun. It was easy but thats what made it such an awesome experience.

hah, based on the postings, many people seem to think GeoW or SMG is better than MGS4, but the votes say otherwise, by a large margin. I think this proves that the fanatics are alawys more vocal than the general public. Whatever we see on the forums do not represent the silent majority.jhcho2

Metal Gear Solid 4>Super Mario Galaxy>Gears of War 07 and 08 were much better and far more competitive years than 06....Gears 1 winning in 06..isn't as impressive to me as SMG winning in 07 or MGS 4 winning in 08.jg4xchamp

MGS4=SMG, but I'm a big MGS fan, so taking my fanboyism away from that SMG probably deserves it for me, but then not really, it's hypocritical because for me that factor still matters. Hence it's =, which is what I said in the first place. But the real joke is on you, wasting your time reading this drivel. Shame on you, shame on you.

GeoW is starting to feel a bit irrelevant. GeoW 2 is better, and at this point I've lost much of my original love for the game. I'm a bit tired of the gameplay actually of the entire series actually, evne though there's only been two games.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Metal Gear Solid 4>Super Mario Galaxy>Gears of War 07 and 08 were much better and far more competitive years than 06....Gears 1 winning in 06..isn't as impressive to me as SMG winning in 07 or MGS 4 winning in 08.Shinobishyguy

well, yet another xbox360 game people try to pull of as excellent because their was no competition! typical! Not to say 2006 was a awsome year! Gears was the first real next gen game combined with great gameplay and sound! You guy's forget it's an accomplishment itself to have a game like gears back then! There was no competition because gears was ahead of it's time ( in comparison to all the other games ). That's not to say it's the best game this gen! That title belongs to other games that came out later! But i don't think it's fair to say gears won because their where no other very good games back then!