Now that Killzone 2 has the best console graphics, what should Killzone 3 do?

I know I sound like a total graphics whore but I just like to speculate. What improvements in the graphics department could killzone 3 make? Improved textures? Less background blur and more refined depth of feild? I for one think they should strive to make the game run at 60fps which would make the already incredible animations in the game look even better.

Edit: console graphics, so hermits wouldn't RAGE

I think some people over do the graphics. They are gorgeous and undoubtedly the best, but it's not photorealistic like some people make it to be.

They have already made improvments. In the KZ2 trailer all the enemies have a cloth effect where it shows the folds and layers of their clothing for a more realistic effect, in KZ2 it wasnt actually in the game, but now its in their engine. Water effects have also been improved where it adds more realtistic reflections. If you got a ps3 go download behind the bullet they talk about some of their new features, or go on gametrailers and they have it on there.

Who said KZ2 was the console graphics king ? did it win any awards ?Gh0st_Of_0nyx

It's pretty much agreed upon in System Wars and has been praised in numerous reviews for it's fantastic graphics. KZ2 is the best looking console game to date.

Not have such a crap story.

it should have co-op in single player and online. more features. more weapons. improved graphics. more online modes. and a better story

Well, assuming KZ3 comes out on PS3 using the KZ2 engine, I think it will look nicer, but it will be like Geow - GeoW2...we will see improvements, but nothing extradinary.

KZ2 is a good looker for sure...maybe Uncharted 2 can top it...I don't know.

Not have such a crap story.

RyanShazam

I don't know, GeoW has a craptacular story, and it seems to be popular. GeoW2's story was actually 10X worse than GeoW, yet I had fun with both.(Giant worm lol. helicopter ending, lol.)

Halo's story is pretty crappy too, but it has Novels' to try and build it up, but from a Gamer's perspective, it's not good either.

Let's face it, in these games, the goal is to shoot...A LOT of STuff, so they have to come up with flimsy reasons why we shoot so much stuff.

"Going Guns a BLAZIN" isn't really the smart thing to do in any situation in real life...now that I think about it, you were just bashing KZ2 rather than really thinking about all this, huh?

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Who said KZ2 was the console graphics king ? did it win any awards ?lundy86_4

It's pretty much agreed upon in System Wars and has been praised in numerous reviews for it's fantastic graphics. KZ2 is the best looking console game to date.

I honestly wouldn't mind if KZ3 had the exact same graphics since it does look very good. Work on other portions of KZ2 that would make the experience better like story, characters etc. It would be nice to actually have some attatchment to the characters so you care what happens.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Not have such a crap story.

SolidTy

I don't know, GeoW has a craptacular story, and it seems to be popular. Halo's story is pretty crappy too, but it has Novels' to try and build it up, but from a Gamer's perspective, it's not good either.

Let's face it, in these games, the goal is to shoot...A LOT of STuff, so they have to come up with flimsy reasons why we shoot so much stuff.

"Going Guns a BLAZIN" isn't really the smart thing to do in any situation in real life...now that I think about it, you were just bashing KZ2 for being on PS3 rather than really thinking about all this, huh?

I dont know. I actually enjoyed Halo and Gear's stories. They actually kept me entertained and wanting to play the game. I was so addicted to the campaign in Gears an Halo i beat both of them a day after i bought them. Killzone 2... Not even close to beating it. Story isn't interesting at all. I keep trying to play the campaign but i keep telling myself ill do it later. I am the highest rank in versus mode though (the 3 star what-not).

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Who said KZ2 was the console graphics king ? did it win any awards ?Tulak_Hord

It's pretty much agreed upon in System Wars and has been praised in numerous reviews for it's fantastic graphics. KZ2 is the best looking console game to date.

- No lower than 30FPS. Sometimes the game drops below 30 FPS.

- More consistent environment textures. Textures are GREAT, but in some areas they aren't as spectacular as others (goes for many games :P).

- Larger environments/ scale. Vehicle sections similar to the Halo series. Checkpoints with multiple destinations. Helghast jet bikes would be AMAZING.

- Story isn't graphics, but KZ universe lore is cool and mature. I hope they apply same effort of the backstory into KZ3's story. THis is the first game though. Story wasn't the main focus.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Not have such a crap story.

RyanShazam

I don't know, GeoW has a craptacular story, and it seems to be popular. Halo's story is pretty crappy too, but it has Novels' to try and build it up, but from a Gamer's perspective, it's not good either.

Let's face it, in these games, the goal is to shoot...A LOT of STuff, so they have to come up with flimsy reasons why we shoot so much stuff.

"Going Guns a BLAZIN" isn't really the smart thing to do in any situation in real life...now that I think about it, you were just bashing KZ2 rather than really thinking about all this, huh?

I dont know. I actually enjoyed Halo and Gear's stories. They actually kept me entertained and wanting to play the game. I was so addicted to the campaign in Gears an Halo i beat both of them a day after i bought them. Killzone 2... Not even close to beating it. Story isn't interesting at all. I keep trying to play the campaign but i keep telling myself ill do it later. I am the highest rank in versus mode though (the 3 star what-not).

Y'know, I must admit, even though GeoW story is super dumb, I liked playing it more than KZ2 and Halo. Halo I felt the way you described about KZ2, just going through the motions, trying to complete the dang thing. It was so dull, but the MP was the main draw anyways....like your KZ2 experience.

Some games just don't grab as fast, GeoW felt like a Arnie movie, dumb but fun, whereas KZ2, Halo, COD1-3 and loads of other FPS just are more drab.

COD4's story was more fun, I think I hate WWII theme, it's so tired.

Of course, there are smart shooters like Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc, but those are a rare breed.

Not have such a bad story....scratch that just having a story good or bad will be a improvment Hire some new people that have a imagination so they do not have to copy and past the same bad guy through out the entire game again. While they are at stopping the copy and pasting maybe they can not copy and past the same area through out the entire game also. Have a main guy worth caring about. I would say have more vehicles but heck I would just be happy if they fixed the controls of the one vehicle they did have (tank) And so on... There is A LOT they can work on for KZ3rybe1025

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't know, GeoW has a craptacular story, and it seems to be popular. Halo's story is pretty crappy too, but it has Novels' to try and build it up, but from a Gamer's perspective, it's not good either.

Let's face it, in these games, the goal is to shoot...A LOT of STuff, so they have to come up with flimsy reasons why we shoot so much stuff.

"Going Guns a BLAZIN" isn't really the smart thing to do in any situation in real life...now that I think about it, you were just bashing KZ2 rather than really thinking about all this, huh?

SolidTy

I dont know. I actually enjoyed Halo and Gear's stories. They actually kept me entertained and wanting to play the game. I was so addicted to the campaign in Gears an Halo i beat both of them a day after i bought them. Killzone 2... Not even close to beating it. Story isn't interesting at all. I keep trying to play the campaign but i keep telling myself ill do it later. I am the highest rank in versus mode though (the 3 star what-not).

Y'know, I must admit, even though GeoW story is super dumb, I liked playing it more than KZ2 and Halo. Halo I felt the way you described about KZ2, just going through the motions, trying to complete the dang thing. It was so dull, but the MP was the main draw anyways....like your KZ2 experience.

Some games just don't grab as fast, GeoW felt like a Arnie movie, dumb but fun, whereas KZ2, Halo, COD1-3 and loads of other FPS just are more drab.

COD4's story was more fun, I think I hate WWII theme, it's so tired.

Of course, there are smart shooters like Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc, but those are a rare breed.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't know, GeoW has a craptacular story, and it seems to be popular. Halo's story is pretty crappy too, but it has Novels' to try and build it up, but from a Gamer's perspective, it's not good either.

Let's face it, in these games, the goal is to shoot...A LOT of STuff, so they have to come up with flimsy reasons why we shoot so much stuff.

"Going Guns a BLAZIN" isn't really the smart thing to do in any situation in real life...now that I think about it, you were just bashing KZ2 rather than really thinking about all this, huh?

SolidTy

I dont know. I actually enjoyed Halo and Gear's stories. They actually kept me entertained and wanting to play the game. I was so addicted to the campaign in Gears an Halo i beat both of them a day after i bought them. Killzone 2... Not even close to beating it. Story isn't interesting at all. I keep trying to play the campaign but i keep telling myself ill do it later. I am the highest rank in versus mode though (the 3 star what-not).

Y'know, I must admit, even though GeoW story is super dumb, I liked playing it more than KZ2 and Halo. Halo I felt the way you described about KZ2, just going through the motions, trying to complete the dang thing. It was so dull, but the MP was the main draw anyways....like your KZ2 experience.

Some games just don't grab as fast, GeoW felt like a Arnie movie, dumb but fun, whereas KZ2, Halo, COD1-3 and loads of other FPS just are more drab.

COD4's story was more fun, I think I hate WWII theme, it's so tired.

Of course, there are smart shooters like Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc, but those are a rare breed.

I can tell i found myself a great shooter when i am able to beat the campaign, and still manage to play online. Games like Bioshock don't come often like you said.

I enjoyed Halo, Gears and COD4 i played those games both multiplayer and i also beat the campaigns. I guess thats why i liked them so much. KZ2 is good but when i only play the game because it has a good online mode, I don't find it great, i only find it good.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I dont know. I actually enjoyed Halo and Gear's stories. They actually kept me entertained and wanting to play the game. I was so addicted to the campaign in Gears an Halo i beat both of them a day after i bought them. Killzone 2... Not even close to beating it. Story isn't interesting at all. I keep trying to play the campaign but i keep telling myself ill do it later. I am the highest rank in versus mode though (the 3 star what-not).

TREAL_Since

Y'know, I must admit, even though GeoW story is super dumb, I liked playing it more than KZ2 and Halo. Halo I felt the way you described about KZ2, just going through the motions, trying to complete the dang thing. It was so dull, but the MP was the main draw anyways....like your KZ2 experience.

Some games just don't grab as fast, GeoW felt like a Arnie movie, dumb but fun, whereas KZ2, Halo, COD1-3 and loads of other FPS just are more drab.

COD4's story was more fun, I think I hate WWII theme, it's so tired.

Of course, there are smart shooters like Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc, but those are a rare breed.

Yeah, they weren't intentional laughs, but I did laugh at how stupid it was, which was part of the fun. The other games take themselves more serious, and I guess I'm bored of Serious Business SciFi settings. They did Flesh out Marcus in GeoW2, so they will probably do the same for KZ3.

Beautiful game though.

not be so extremely generic, and rip offish.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

I dont know. I actually enjoyed Halo and Gear's stories. They actually kept me entertained and wanting to play the game. I was so addicted to the campaign in Gears an Halo i beat both of them a day after i bought them. Killzone 2... Not even close to beating it. Story isn't interesting at all. I keep trying to play the campaign but i keep telling myself ill do it later. I am the highest rank in versus mode though (the 3 star what-not).

RyanShazam

Y'know, I must admit, even though GeoW story is super dumb, I liked playing it more than KZ2 and Halo. Halo I felt the way you described about KZ2, just going through the motions, trying to complete the dang thing. It was so dull, but the MP was the main draw anyways....like your KZ2 experience.

Some games just don't grab as fast, GeoW felt like a Arnie movie, dumb but fun, whereas KZ2, Halo, COD1-3 and loads of other FPS just are more drab.

COD4's story was more fun, I think I hate WWII theme, it's so tired.

Of course, there are smart shooters like Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc, but those are a rare breed.

I can tell i found myself a great shooter when i am able to beat the campaign, and still manage to play online. Games like Bioshock don't come often like you said.

I enjoyed Halo, Gears and COD4 i played those games both multiplayer and i also beat the campaigns. I guess thats why i liked them so much. KZ2 is good but when i only play the game because it has a good online mode, I don't find it great, i only find it good.

not be so extremely generic, and rip offish.

WilliamRLBaker

Uh...like almost Every shooter?

Why single out KZ2, lord, that's FPS's period.

You either like them or you don't like them, nothing wrong with KZ2's approach anymore so than any other shooter.

Have a more detailed (and satisfying) story.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Y'know, I must admit, even though GeoW story is super dumb, I liked playing it more than KZ2 and Halo. Halo I felt the way you described about KZ2, just going through the motions, trying to complete the dang thing. It was so dull, but the MP was the main draw anyways....like your KZ2 experience.

Some games just don't grab as fast, GeoW felt like a Arnie movie, dumb but fun, whereas KZ2, Halo, COD1-3 and loads of other FPS just are more drab.

COD4's story was more fun, I think I hate WWII theme, it's so tired.

Of course, there are smart shooters like Deus Ex, Bioshock, etc, but those are a rare breed.

SolidTy

Yeah, they weren't intentional laughs, but I did laugh at how stupid it was, which was part of the fun. The other games take themselves more serious, and I guess I'm bored of Serious Business SciFi settings. They did Flesh out Marcus in GeoW2, so they will probably do the same for KZ3.

Beautiful game though.

Better story/ character development and Halo-like vehicle sections would be great.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Who said KZ2 was the console graphics king ? did it win any awards ?Tulak_Hord

It's pretty much agreed upon in System Wars and has been praised in numerous reviews for it's fantastic graphics. KZ2 is the best looking console game to date.

I said "pretty much" as in, not unanymous. We're never gonna have a 100% agreed upon topic. From what i've seen though, KZ2 is praised to have the best console graphics currently.

It's going to be hard to raise the bar Killzone 2 set but if anyone can do it it's Guerilla I hope they can improve the graphics for Killzone 3if it's possible the game is the best console graphics to date but I believe Guerilla can raise the stakes.

mgs4 has better graphics

better story + co-op + weapon attachments (maybe) + more game modes

Whataboutsomecolor?

~Dohohoh

Whataboutsomecolor?

~Dohohoh

darkguy_101

This is actually a misnomer that KZ2 looks bland. There's the new sun level where game is actually set in a 'CLEAN' environment, as well as the anti-air turret sequence in it where you get to look at the orange sky. And also the deserts and wasteland levels as well.

- No lower than 30FPS. Sometimes the game drops below 30 FPS.

- More consistent environment textures. Textures are GREAT, but in some areas they aren't as spectacular as others (goes for many games :P).

- Larger environments/ scale. Vehicle sections similar to the Halo series. Checkpoints with multiple destinations. Helghast jet bikes would be AMAZING.

- Story isn't graphics, but KZ universe lore is cool and mature. I hope they apply same effort of the backstory into KZ3's story. THis is the first game though. Story wasn't the main focus.

TREAL_Since

[QUOTE="darkguy_101"]

Whataboutsomecolor?

~Dohohoh

PSdual_wielder

This is actually a misnomer that KZ2 looks bland. There's the new sun level where game is actually set in a 'CLEAN' environment, as well as the anti-air turret sequence in it where you get to look at the orange sky. And also the deserts and wasteland levels as well.

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="darkguy_101"]

Whataboutsomecolor?

~Dohohoh

Nedemis

This is actually a misnomer that KZ2 looks bland. There's the new sun level where game is actually set in a 'CLEAN' environment, as well as the anti-air turret sequence in it where you get to look at the orange sky. And also the deserts and wasteland levels as well.

pointless talking to you.

Whataboutsomecolor?

~Dohohoh

darkguy_101

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

This is actually a misnomer that KZ2 looks bland. There's the new sun level where game is actually set in a 'CLEAN' environment, as well as the anti-air turret sequence in it where you get to look at the orange sky. And also the deserts and wasteland levels as well.

PSdual_wielder

pointless talking to you.

I know about those levels, (but i havn't played them) I was just poking fun at that =P

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"] wow....such a wide array of colors being shown there. :| ...... :lol:

darkguy_101

pointless talking to you.

I know about those levels, (but i havn't played them) I was just poking fun at that =P

Oh, I thought you and that guy who tried to be sarcastic was the same person.

Now that Killzone 2 has the best console graphics, what should Killzone 3 do?

munu9

[QUOTE="munu9"]

Now that Killzone 2 has the best console graphics, what should Killzone 3 do?

TheBigBadGRIM

KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

obamanian

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KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

obamanian