Now that Killzone 2 has the best console graphics, what should Killzone 3 do?

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#51 Slambo86
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KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

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#52 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

GearsOfWarLover

Lolz, always you and microsoft

Well, it has more to do with the broken promises about KZ2 visuals, that have no dyanmic lighting, tiny levelsand terrible texturing, than my "bond" with MS, which simple does not exist

Remember that i had a PS1-N64-PS2 far before i even considered MS a power in gaming industry in the slightest

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#53 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="GearsOfWarLover"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

obamanian

Lolz, always you and microsoft

Well, it has more to do with the broken promises about KZ2 visuals, that have no dyanmic lighting, tiny levelsand terrible texturing, than my "bond" with MS, which simple does not exist

Remember that i had a PS1-N64-PS2 far before i even considered MS a power in gaming industry in the slightest

You talk about broken promises and you list Fable 2? Rofl?

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#54 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="GearsOfWarLover"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

KZ3 needs bigger levels, real dynamic lighting, hugly more detail, far better textures etc so it can at least match games like Fable 2, Gears 2, Banjo 3 etc and is not left far behind like KZ2, with the tiny spaces, and static lighting

obamanian

Lolz, always you and microsoft

Well, it has more to do with the broken promises about KZ2 visuals, that have no dyanmic lighting, tiny levelsand terrible texturing, than my "bond" with MS, which simple does not exist

Remember that i had a PS1-N64-PS2 far before i even considered MS a power in gaming industry in the slightest

okay, just drop the routine. you keep repeating nonsense, and it's old. the levels aren't "tiny" and it contains textures that are just as good as other good looking games. it also has a decent amount of physics-enabled objects that keep the enviorments from feeling flat and static.

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#55 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="GearsOfWarLover"] Lolz, always you and microsoftdragonpuppy

Well, it has more to do with the broken promises about KZ2 visuals, that have no dyanmic lighting, tiny levelsand terrible texturing, than my "bond" with MS, which simple does not exist

Remember that i had a PS1-N64-PS2 far before i even considered MS a power in gaming industry in the slightest

You talk about broken promises and you list Fable 2? Rofl?

But Fable 2 does have some huge spaces, forests, real dynamic lighting and volumetric shadowed light beams (found ONLY in PC games like Crysis) etc

No borken promises there

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#56 Asim90
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The graphics can still be imroved upon I think, since there are some aspects of the original trailer that are better. Anyway:

- Improve the story. Killzone has a fantastic backstory, use it!
- Improve the textures in some areas.
- More variety of weapons and grenades.
- More ranks in the online mode.
- More use of vehicles in the story and online. The exosuit thingy was awesome!

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#57 RocKtheCasbaH
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I think some people over do the graphics. They are gorgeous and undoubtedly the best, but it's not photorealistic like some people make it to be.

Squall18

True, the graphics are way over-hyped. I hope they do something innovative with the game play next time. I felt KZ2 was very much a by-the-numbers shooter. Nothing special at all gameplay wise. I mean it was good, very good even,but not the best fps out there. No where near in fact.I would give that award to either COD4 or Halo 3.

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#58 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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Can someone explain to me how this grey flat texture ps2 game is console graphics king? gears of war 2 is graphics king, killzone2 doesnt even have water reflections lol.
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#59 kingdre
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Make Rico less annoying. I can't stand that guy. :evil:

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#60 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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more varied level design, more use of bump/parallax mapping on textures, ability to fire while jumping. actually make a game worthy of being called graphics king.
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#61 Rhubarb9
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Who said KZ2 was the console graphics king ? did it win any awards ?Gh0st_Of_0nyx


yes in fact it did a couple :)
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26814874&page=0

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#62 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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Killzone2 dev's said the engine currently has no support for realtime water reflection they faked the reflection in that killzone2 ad behind the bullet crap. gears of war 2 definitely wins supports realtime reflections FAILURE. people dont seem to know how to make worthy graphics comparisons.
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#63 mlisen
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Can someone explain to me how this grey flat texture ps2 game is console graphics king? gears of war 2 is graphics king, killzone2 doesnt even have water reflections lol.wqeewqeqweqwqew
At least put some effort in. Both to your name and your attempt at an insult.

Edit:

Also has reflections.

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#64 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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[QUOTE="mlisen"][QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"]Can someone explain to me how this grey flat texture ps2 game is console graphics king? gears of war 2 is graphics king, killzone2 doesnt even have water reflections lol.

At least put some effort in. Both to your name and your attempt at an insult.

pc gamer here 20 years, gears of war 2 wins sorry. whoever tells you otherwise doesnt know anything. BTW gametrailers review of killzone2 is alot more detailed and better than gamespot's review.
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#65 Asim90
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[QUOTE="mlisen"][QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"]Can someone explain to me how this grey flat texture ps2 game is console graphics king? gears of war 2 is graphics king, killzone2 doesnt even have water reflections lol.wqeewqeqweqwqew
At least put some effort in. Both to your name and your attempt at an insult.

pc gamer here 20 years, gears of war 2 wins sorry. whoever tells you otherwise doesnt know anything.

Haha, that was the worst comeback I have ever seen.

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#66 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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[QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"][QUOTE="mlisen"] At least put some effort in. Both to your name and your attempt at an insult. Asim90

pc gamer here 20 years, gears of war 2 wins sorry. whoever tells you otherwise doesnt know anything.

Haha, that was the worst comeback I have ever seen.

Yep console gamers know much more about graphics, since they built maps and mods oh wait never.
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the only area where kz2 graphics were slightly below what I expected was certain environmental textures, character models weapon/vehicle models are all very good , I just found some of the actual environment textures look very flat, its not game breaking it doesn't detract from the game experience but there is room for improvement.
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#68 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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[QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"]Can someone explain to me how this grey flat texture ps2 game is console graphics king? gears of war 2 is graphics king, killzone2 doesnt even have water reflections lol.mlisen

At least put some effort in. Both to your name and your attempt at an insult.

Edit:

Also has reflections.

lol faked
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#69 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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the textures on peoples face's are much lower resolution than gears of war.
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#70 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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killzone2 models the face's dont really have pits/pores to the skin like gears of war or scars to their face really or freckles lol
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#71 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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^ should of mentioned though some killzone2 models look better than others, a few models do have some scars, but they just dont seem to have the pores in their skin like gears of war plus where's the veins on peoples arms?
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#72 Rhubarb9
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killzone2 models the face's dont really have pits/pores to the skin like gears of war or scars to their face really or freckles lol wqeewqeqweqwqew


and gears of war only have really tight corridors, smaller rooms or anything large either devoid of detail or with walls covering your sight
KZ2 has better guns and bigger better surrounds

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#73 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Well for one it should actually be fun to play.

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#74 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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[QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"]killzone2 models the face's dont really have pits/pores to the skin like gears of war or scars to their face really or freckles lol Rhubarb9



and gears of war only have really tight corridors, smaller rooms or anything large either devoid of detail or with walls covering your sight
KZ2 has better guns and bigger better surrounds

nah gears of war 2 has more action on screen more enemys bigger levels. http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/images/0/28/?full_size=1 see the guy on the left, that's probley the best character model in killzone2, he's got a scar on his left cheek, but his actual skin texture lacks depth compared to gears of war, his skin just looks flat no pores to it really just a color kinda.
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#75 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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do something interesting with the gameplay

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#76 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 gears of war 1# shot lol see how his skin just doesnt look perfect like killzone2's? killzone2 model the guy has wrinkles and a scar, but his skin doesnt look imperfect like crators or pores/pits really like gears.
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#77 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"]killzone2 models the face's dont really have pits/pores to the skin like gears of war or scars to their face really or freckles lol wqeewqeqweqwqew



and gears of war only have really tight corridors, smaller rooms or anything large either devoid of detail or with walls covering your sight
KZ2 has better guns and bigger better surrounds

nah gears of war 2 has more action on screen more enemys bigger levels. http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/images/0/28/?full_size=1 see the guy on the left, that's probley the best character model in killzone2, he's got a scar on his left cheek, but his actual skin texture lacks depth compared to gears of war, his skin just looks flat no pores to it really just a color kinda.




Shawn Natko natural hair under his bandana alone > all of gears pores and steroid pimpels

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#78 lancer_87
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Well if you ask me,they should target the action,graphics and gameplay of the CGI Footage shown at E3 2005.

Also they should go towards more open and much more variety of enviroments,like deserts,snow,jungles...etc...etc..They should generally target many different planets.

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#79 wqeewqeqweqwqew
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[QUOTE="wqeewqeqweqwqew"][QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

and gears of war only have really tight corridors, smaller rooms or anything large either devoid of detail or with walls covering your sight
KZ2 has better guns and bigger better surrounds

Rhubarb9

nah gears of war 2 has more action on screen more enemys bigger levels. http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/killzone2/images/0/28/?full_****1 see the guy on the left, that's probley the best character model in killzone2, he's got a scar on his left cheek, but his actual skin texture lacks depth compared to gears of war, his skin just looks flat no pores to it really just a color kinda.




Shawn Natko natural hair under his bandana alone > all of gears pores and steroid pimpels

Whatever lol, the skin on gears of war looks more realistic because the skin doesnt look perfect, the skin on killzone2 the models face looks plastic no depth to it really besides wrinkles lol. it's just too smooth looking definitely less detailed any pc gamer would agree.
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#80 markop2003
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hopefully less shortcuts but that won't happpen for a while, even a top end PC has only recently been able to render a teapot in realtimes without any shortcuts
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#81 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's pretty much agreed upon in System Wars and has been praised in numerous reviews for it's fantastic graphics. KZ2 is the best looking console game to date.

Chutebox

This is system wars it was never agreed. Only PC's gfx have been agreed.

It's much more than just the general agreement. It's pretty lopsided actually.

Ummm no its cow's passing opinions as facts again.

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#82 GTR2addict
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improve eveerything else.
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#83 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"] This is system wars it was never agreed. Only PC's gfx have been agreed. Gh0st_Of_0nyx

It's much more than just the general agreement. It's pretty lopsided actually.

Ummm no its cow's passing opinions as facts again.



http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26814874&page=0

reviewers and award givers are all cows? okay...

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#84 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] It's much more than just the general agreement. It's pretty lopsided actually.

Rhubarb9

Ummm no its cow's passing opinions as facts again.



http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26814874&page=0

reviewers and award givers are all cows? okay...

You post old E3 videos 2 reviews and a youtube video as proof :lol: ? I asked what awards KZ2 has won saying it has the best console graphics and you show me a bunch of opinions :roll:

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#85 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Who said KZ2 was the console graphics king ? did it win any awards ?lundy86_4

It's pretty much agreed upon in System Wars and has been praised in numerous reviews for it's fantastic graphics. KZ2 is the best looking console game to date.

Yep its what this guy said

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#86 Puckhog04
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As with all consoles, the graphics will get a lot better over time. Depending on what they want to do with the game they could improve a lot visually. To be honest though, improving on Killzone 2 is a very daunting task. The is gorgeous. No doubt they will improve on it. Probably not the "next generation" improvement (unless KZ3 is on PS4) but no doubt that it will look vastly better than KZ2 if it's released on PS3.

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#87 kaangonultas
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On consoles KZ2> The rest . Even the gamespot reviewer said that.
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#88 Cooldude224
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Some color would be nice.

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#89 rising141
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killzone 2 graphics just have a lot of post processing (which doesnt make it look bad) but textures, colors, shaders arent up there with other games.

take every visual filter out of killzone and it will look like crap believe me..

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#90 Zaibach
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Sure are alot of level 1 posters coming out of the wood works bashing this game.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Tulak_Hord"] This is system wars it was never agreed. Only PC's gfx have been agreed. Gh0st_Of_0nyx

It's much more than just the general agreement. It's pretty lopsided actually.

Ummm no its cow's passing opinions as facts again.



So wait, essentially every major gaming source on the internet are cows passing opinions as fact? Its an accepted fact Killzone 2 is the console graphics king, but if you need more reassurance from another source then here:

Digital Foundry, a company that makes video capture hardware, has had their experts look at the graphics in the Killzone 2 multiplayer beta and has declared them an "undisputed winner."


And thats all that way back from the multiplayer BETA! LINK

EDIT: Heres an award they won for Graphicshttp://playstation.joystiq.com/2007/08/04/game-critics-reward-killzone-2-for-graphics-guerrila-devs-blush/

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I wouldn't mind if KZ3 actually felt like people played the game with the default controls. It stands as one of the only FPS that I needed to micro-manage the control scheme just to be comfortable (outside of invert Y) when playing the game.

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#93 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="dragonpuppy"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Well, it has more to do with the broken promises about KZ2 visuals, that have no dyanmic lighting, tiny levelsand terrible texturing, than my "bond" with MS, which simple does not exist

Remember that i had a PS1-N64-PS2 far before i even considered MS a power in gaming industry in the slightest

obamanian

You talk about broken promises and you list Fable 2? Rofl?

But Fable 2 does have some huge spaces, forests, real dynamic lighting and volumetric shadowed light beams (found ONLY in PC games like Crysis) etc

No borken promises there

So how's your Xbox360 handling trying to render those 2000 leaves?