Now that Super paper mario has flopped !!

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#51 psychic_zebra
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dracula_16, Happyphilter, and pippin73.

 

Thank you so much. I thought I was the only one who actually knows the rules of SW. I do find it strange, though, that sheep are usually the ones who don't know the "flop" rule...

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#52 Magical_Zebra
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But its just so "Flopalicious!" :D
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#53 frustatedgibbon
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i thought it was hyped around 8.5ish? i thought it would get between 7.5-8.5ish... so im glad it got 8.8.

 no one thought it would be a classic (AAA). its just another great game (AA).

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#54 chutup
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I think it's time for a change in the way we talk about flops around here. Rather than saying "super paper mario flopped" say "the sheep flopped for hyping SPM". Because really, you can't blame the game for people getting overenthusiastic about it. By that logic I could say "I hype Halo 3 11/10!!!!1!" and then if it gets say 9.2 I can say "ZOMG HAlo FLOPZORED!!1!!"

So to all those sheep saying that it didn't flop, you're right. SPM didn't flop, you did. 

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#55 frustatedgibbon
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You know what I don't like? this place is infested with people who have no idea what the word "flop" means. Look guys.. a flop is a game that did not live up to the hype. Super Paper Mario was hyped AAA in the official thread and it failed to meet up to expectations. That is the very definition of a flop! just accept it like a man and move on.

If you don't like whining about your game flopping then don't hype it before hand. The game flopped- end of story.  

dracula_16

was hyped AA.

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#56 psychic_zebra
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I think it's time for a change in the way we talk about flops around here. Rather than saying "super paper mario flopped" say "the sheep flopped for hyping SPM". Because really, you can't blame the game for people getting overenthusiastic about it. By that logic I could say "I hype Halo 3 11/10!!!!1!" and then if it gets say 9.2 I can say "ZOMG HAlo FLOPZORED!!1!!"

So to all those sheep saying that it didn't flop, you're right. SPM didn't flop, you did.

chutup

 

We already have that. The game flops but the people get owned. 

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#57 TDLlama
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was hyped AA.

b xx

dracula_16
CaseyWegner and most of GS disagree. I'm a Wii owner and pretty sheepish... but I even know it flopped according to System Wars standards. I say we get over it and move on to the next big game... Super Smash Bros. Brawl, maybe?
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#58 Can-o-Mark
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dracula_16, Happyphilter, and pippin73.

 

Thank you so much. I thought I was the only one who actually knows the rules of SW. I do find it strange, though, that sheep are usually the ones who don't know the "flop" rule...

psychic_zebra


A lot of people dont consider it to be a flop because they personally didnt hype it AAA. I for example, hyped it mid AA to low AAA. So for me this is pretty much the score I thought it would get. And I dont really care about the score other people thought this game would get. Especially since even for those people, its a very minor flop. A lot less than TP, Motorstorm or even Crackdown.
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#59 hyruledweller
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Wow, 8.8, thats pretty good, must have for me.
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#60 fernandmondego_
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I hyped it AAA, and it missed (only by 0.2 tho). In my defence I actually think Gamespot hyped it AAA! They ran 5 previews on the game, and a 4 hour live gameplay marathon! Surely for Gamespot to have gone to all that effort, they must have thought it was going to be a very impressive game?

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8.8 is impressive plus this is not the first game to get such treatment nor the first to get below 9 after such treament. Fable had a 12 hours marathon and got a 8.6. GS didn't hype this game AAA, they just did their job and repoted on it.
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#61 danneswegman
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the sad flop saying people. go play games.
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#62 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

You know what I don't like? this place is infested with people who have no idea what the word "flop" means. Look guys.. a flop is a game that did not live up to the hype. Super Paper Mario was hyped AAA in the official thread and it failed to meet up to expectations. That is the very definition of a flop! just accept it like a man and move on.

If you don't like whining about your game flopping then don't hype it before hand. The game flopped- end of story.  

frustatedgibbon

was hyped AA.

b xx

Wrong. Go read the official hyped thread if you can find it. CaseyWegner counts all the posts and determinded that AAA hyped was the most common.

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#63 dracula_16
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the sad flop saying people. go play games.danneswegman

I think you're mis-interpreting what a flop is. In that case- I suggest reading the System Wars Informational thread. A game that flops is NOT automatically a bad game- it's just something that did not live up to the hype it recieved.

For example...Crackdown flopped but I still enjoyed it immensly. A flop is not automatically a bad game and therefore someone who calls something a flop is not directly implying that the game is bad.

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#64 gaming_nerd
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[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Since when does GS score determine sales?Brown52

Since when does sales tell you how good a game is? 

wtf? your quoted sig. 7 year old much.

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#65 StormrageX
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when 8.8 means its as good as Twilight Princess (omg flop) its fine for me...
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#66 tman93
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Its a good score, a flop though. But really I dont think people can say "Zomg sheeps! SPM flopped haha i told you, who would hype it AAA!!!!" becuase I think anyone would have seeings as whens the last time a game got 5 previews and a gameplay marathon?
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#67 mighty_shark
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I said AA. :)
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#68 hazbazz
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Ah well, I accept my ownage
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#69 danneswegman
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[QUOTE="danneswegman"]the sad flop saying people. go play games.dracula_16

I think you're mis-interpreting what a flop is. In that case- I suggest reading the System Wars Informational thread. A game that flops is NOT automatically a bad game- it's just something that did not live up to the hype it recieved.

For example...Crackdown flopped but I still enjoyed it immensly. A flop is not automatically a bad game and therefore someone who calls something a flop is not directly implying that the game is bad.

[QUOTE="danneswegman"]the sad flop saying people. go play games.dracula_16

I think you're mis-interpreting what a flop is. In that case- I suggest reading the System Wars Informational thread. A game that flops is NOT automatically a bad game- it's just something that did not live up to the hype it recieved.

For example...Crackdown flopped but I still enjoyed it immensly. A flop is not automatically a bad game and therefore someone who calls something a flop is not directly implying that the game is bad.

i didn't say that... you put words in my mouth. flop callers are sad people.
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#70 Mizarus
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if anyone is to blame for the "AAA" hype its gamespot, it has been hyping the game for what now? a whole month, it previewed 4chapters and did a 4hour marathon of the game, sayng how awsome it was and then gave it a title that they hyped as a 9.5-10, 8,8 i could see that one coming but i was hoping for atleast a 9,1.

but as said beofre scores dosent matter, and if they do 8.8 is an great score, smash brothers only got 8.3 bakc in the day and its an amazing game probly one of the games i enjoyed the most and played the most on last generation, i hated oblivion and halo and iam loving to play dbz tenkaichi. a review is nothing more then the point of view of somonelse if you like to be told what to think go for it and belive then =p

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#71 squallff8_fan
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Whats next for Wii

 

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/superpapermario/review.html?sid=6168805&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot 

pippin73

Man I wouldnt call an 8.8 a flop. That is a real good score. and only missed an AAA by 2 points but that is gamespot for u. The game looks like alot of fun and 8.8 in my head is just as good as an 9.0.

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#72 oback
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yea live it up for a while cows and lems, but it wont last long.
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#73 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Since when does GS score determine sales?mis3ry

Since when does sales tell you how good a game is? 

Nobody said guaranteed. In fact, if you look at most posts in the "official" thread, most people were saying "Ah, what the hell, I'll risk it." Myself included.

I said something along the lines of: AAA. Bring the ownage! ... And, sure enough, it's been brought-en. :lol:
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#74 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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How can there be any debate wheter it flopped or not? Countless Wii fanboys have be GUARANTEEING that SPM would get AAA. In fact they have been rubbing our faces in the "fact". Its important that these guys eat a slice of humble pride (and with respect some of them have). THIS is what system wars is all about.pippin73
How can someone... guarantee a score? :? Nothing is guaranteed. Anything can flop. SMG, MP3, ME, AC, Halo 3, MGS4, FFXIII Whatever. Hyping is something to do in fun, and without any sort of reality involved whatsoever.
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#75 REVOLUTIONfreak
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I'm never hyping anything again....

All of Nintendo's hyped games get 8.8, it's like a curse.  Anyway, they really did give us good reason to think that it would go AAA though between all of the glowing previews, it's appearance on "On the Spot", and the marathon.

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#76 tocool340
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[QUOTE="Narwaffle"]Since when was an 8.8 a flop?foxhound_fox


Since it was officially hyped AAA.

It is only on SW mind you.

It was hyped AAA? Why would someone want to hype it that? That almosst the same as hyping Super Smash Bros. Brawl AAA, the last entry didn't even get AAA.........
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Narwaffle"]Since when was an 8.8 a flop?tocool340


Since it was officially hyped AAA.

It is only on SW mind you.

It was hyped AAA? Why would someone want to hype it that? That almosst the same as hyping Super Smash Bros. Brawl AAA, the last entry didn't even get AAA.........

The last two Paper Marios DID get AAA. And, I'll probably hype SSBB AAA if it's purported to have decent online.
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#78 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Narwaffle"]Since when was an 8.8 a flop?Jandurin


Since it was officially hyped AAA.

It is only on SW mind you.

It was hyped AAA? Why would someone want to hype it that? That almosst the same as hyping Super Smash Bros. Brawl AAA, the last entry didn't even get AAA.........

The last two Paper Marios DID get AAA. And, I'll probably hype SSBB AAA if it's purported to have decent online.

Yeah. It just hit me when I made that post. I must have been thinking of Super Mario Sunshine.....
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#79 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]So much for the "guaranteed" AAA. You would think people should've learned by now there is no pre-assured AAA.Blackbond

True that, true that. Zelda should have taught everyone that lesson.

Yet games like Mass Effect, MGS4, Halo 3, FFXIII will get hype AAA.
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#80 Taz-Bone
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if this got 8.8 SMG is a guaranteed AAA (there I said it!)
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#81 blacktorn
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Since when was an 8.8 a flop?Narwaffle

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#82 captainlouie
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[QUOTE="captainlouie"]this is awfull. this flop thing has gotten very old.
this will be a great game. don't call it a flop until you give us a chance to play it and defend it accurately.psychic_zebra

 

Don't you understand how System Wars works? Read the informational thread, PLEASE! If a game hasn't lived up to the predicted hype here on SW then it is a flop here on SW. 


yes but system wars are full of gamers.  gamers who have loved systems and games that have reviewed badly and have sold poorly.  a game should be judged by both it's review and our opinion of the game.  and for now, most of us still only have the review and not the game.  give it a day or two until the reader reviews come in.