NPD - Top Selling Games for May - GoW was not number one - SoD2 was

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#151 sealionact
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@BenjaminBanklin: "Microsoft is cheating..."

??????

Oh where's that damn salty tears licking gif that quack loves so much....at least he has the sense to know when he's been owned and goes silent.....?

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#152 BenjaminBanklin
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@sealionact said:

@BenjaminBanklin: "Microsoft is cheating..."

??????

Oh where's that damn salty tears licking gif that quack loves so much....at least he has the sense to know when he's been owned and goes silent.....?

Please, I can't give Microsoft anything. They want to be special in the game space so bad they'll fraud their way to doing it. Console gets owned every month, mid-gen refresh failed, games not named Forza are reviewing like garbage, discounting the system every month. Xbox is worthless. No salt there. Xbox fans so starved they're jumping on 30 dollar trash-tier games. That's not shit to brag about, it just makes you an idiot.

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@howmakewood said:

Oh come on you can't be that dense can you? I said that list is based on revenue, which it is. Later said they do track both, how does that contradict the earlier? What are you trying to spin here?

RANKINGS

Physical and Full Game Digital for publishers in the Digital Leader Panel, ranked on dollar sales

Yes because he who sell most MAKE MOST.

NPD is about sales almost ALWAYS he who sell more copies make more revenue.

1 x 60 = 60

2 X 60 = 120

So if it impossible to list first the game with least sales.

In the case of SOD2 it sold for $30 which is half the price of normal games,which mean buyer were attracted to the game regardless of its low score,more people bite into the game making its sales more than double of those of GOW which is why it end first,second the game is also track on PC which means is PC+ XBO vs PS4 alone in the case of GOW which i am sure saw a huge decline in May as all games do pass their first month.

1 x 60 = 60

3 x 30 = 90.

This ^^ is what happen but my argument is correct NPD is about copies sold he who sales more COPIES obviously make more is simple math.

Oh and i already proof that even MS making more money with the xbox one in february 2014 still the PS4 won NPD because it sold more units regardless of PS4 lower revenues.

https://venturebeat.com/2014/03/13/february-2014-npd-playstation-4-and-xbox-one-continue-fighting-it-out/

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@BenjaminBanklin: It doesn't suit YOU that a damn console is selling well....you work yourself up into such a tizzy that anyone that is happy with their console of choice is an idiot in your view.

It can't be good for your health.

Xbox -in your words - is useless. So why get so angry when you're so happy with YOUR console of choice?

Anyway you twist and shout about the figures, MS made more money with SOD2 than Sony did with GOW in May. That's all that's being shown here, in reply to quack who made himself look sheepish by prematurely claiming otherwise, despite not having any reliable sources.

Oh, and if Xbox owners hadn't bought SOD2 in numbers, you would have been the first one here spouting that games don't sell well on Xbox.

You can't have it both ways, so suck it up....

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#155 Howmakewood
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@tormentos said:
@howmakewood said:

Oh come on you can't be that dense can you? I said that list is based on revenue, which it is. Later said they do track both, how does that contradict the earlier? What are you trying to spin here?

RANKINGS

Physical and Full Game Digital for publishers in the Digital Leader Panel, ranked on dollar sales

Yes because he who sell most MAKE MOST.

NPD is about sales almost ALWAYS he who sell more copies make more revenue.

1 x 60 = 60

2 X 60 = 120

So if it impossible to list first the game with least sales.

In the case of SOD2 it sold for $30 which is half the price of normal games,which mean buyer were attracted to the game regardless of its low score,more people bite into the game making its sales more than double of those of GOW which is why it end first,second the game is also track on PC which means is PC+ XBO vs PS4 alone in the case of GOW which i am sure saw a huge decline in May as all games do pass their first month.

1 x 60 = 60

3 x 30 = 90.

This ^^ is what happen but my argument is correct NPD is about copies sold he who sales more COPIES obviously make more is simple math.

Oh and i already proof that even MS making more money with the xbox one in february 2014 still the PS4 won NPD because it sold more units regardless of PS4 lower revenues.

https://venturebeat.com/2014/03/13/february-2014-npd-playstation-4-and-xbox-one-continue-fighting-it-out/

Nobody is saying SOD2 didn't sell the most copies, just that it made the most revenue. Who sells the most copies makes the most revenue applies if all the products are of the same price. 2x 60 = 120 and 3x 30 = 90, funny how that works. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant.

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@howmakewood said:

Nobody is saying SOD2 didn't sell the most copies, just that it made the most revenue. Who sells the most copies makes the most revenue applies if all the products are of the same price. 2x 60 = 120 and 3x 30 = 90, funny how that works. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant.

But that is the thing SOD2 was a NEW game at $30 on May while GOD 4 wasn't and was $60

PC + XBO >>> PS4 user by the way in case you wonder.

So again the game was half price and new which explain why it sold,other than that is just another meh game that scored low.

No irrelevant is that you claim it wasn't about copies sold when it is always who won npd sell more units period.

And my LINK PROVE that.

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the super-cows should just be quiet, they just come off as super petty and shameless and the sooner they shut up the sooner this thread gets buried and their indignities with it

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Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

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@ten_pints said:

Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

Xbox gamers have no taste. All these other bombs this gen and they swarm all over the shit. Like I say, the way MS is doing this is fishy as hell.

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@ten_pints said:

Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

Are those numbers with PC included?

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@BenjaminBanklin: It doesn't suit YOU that a damn console is selling well....you work yourself up into such a tizzy that anyone that is happy with their console of choice is an idiot in your view.

It can't be good for your health.

Xbox -in your words - is useless. So why get so angry when you're so happy with YOUR console of choice?

Anyway you twist and shout about the figures, MS made more money with SOD2 than Sony did with GOW in May. That's all that's being shown here, in reply to quack who made himself look sheepish by prematurely claiming otherwise, despite not having any reliable sources.

Oh, and if Xbox owners hadn't bought SOD2 in numbers, you would have been the first one here spouting that games don't sell well on Xbox.

You can't have it both ways, so suck it up....

Well that is mega ownage. The funny thing about these select Sony fannies is that they spent gross amount of time hating on a a system that they supposedly don't care about and is failing over everything else combine. They are like reverse fanboys, in that they hate Xbox and MS more passionately then they "love" anything else.

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@lamprey263 said:

the super-cows should just be quiet, they just come off as super petty and shameless and the sooner they shut up the sooner this thread gets buried and their indignities with it

Yup.

Usually goes really downhill when Tomato enters the thread - like talking to a brick wall.

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@sealionact said:

@BenjaminBanklin: It doesn't suit YOU that a damn console is selling well....you work yourself up into such a tizzy that anyone that is happy with their console of choice is an idiot in your view.

It can't be good for your health.

Xbox -in your words - is useless. So why get so angry when you're so happy with YOUR console of choice?

Anyway you twist and shout about the figures, MS made more money with SOD2 than Sony did with GOW in May. That's all that's being shown here, in reply to quack who made himself look sheepish by prematurely claiming otherwise, despite not having any reliable sources.

Oh, and if Xbox owners hadn't bought SOD2 in numbers, you would have been the first one here spouting that games don't sell well on Xbox.

You can't have it both ways, so suck it up....

Anyone who buys a game as broken as the magnitude of SoD2 in droves, are frankly, idiots. This isn't a win. This shows that the Xbox fandom can be fed anything as long as they're in solidarity. The reason why people are fishy about SoD2 being at the top is not only did the leaks have it NOwhere mentioned, it's the fact that the NPD announcement was delayed at least twice behind the scenes. Like MS needed time to cook up the figures.

And no, MS maybe had made more with SoD2 in may... in the US, but we know overall, the numbers won't be sustainable like in Sea of Thieves case where it plummeted a whole 16 spots the next month. We know Xbox fans' standards are so low that they'd champion Candy Crush as a top Xbox title if it hit number one.

If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Anyway, you want to be proud that a broken and mediocre game is at the top for MS? Then that reflects on the state of Xbox at current. I don't see Sony games hitting the top spot with low scores. That's insane, and shameful.

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@Pedro said:

Well that is mega ownage. The funny thing about these select Sony fannies is that they spent gross amount of time hating on a a system that they supposedly don't care about and is failing over everything else combine. They are like reverse fanboys, in that they hate Xbox and MS more passionately then they "love" anything else.

The same can be say about lemmings.

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#165  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@ten_pints said:

Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

You're another one of those "gamers" who plays scores, that pretty sad :(

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@tormentos said:
@Pedro said:

Well that is mega ownage. The funny thing about these select Sony fannies is that they spent gross amount of time hating on a a system that they supposedly don't care about and is failing over everything else combine. They are like reverse fanboys, in that they hate Xbox and MS more passionately then they "love" anything else.

The same can be say about lemmings.

Nope.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Anyone who buys a game as broken as the magnitude of SoD2 in droves, are frankly, idiots. This isn't a win. This shows that the Xbox fandom can be fed anything as long as they're in solidarity. The reason why people are fishy about SoD2 being at the top is not only did the leaks have it NOwhere mentioned, it's the fact that the NPD announcement was delayed at least twice behind the scenes. Like MS needed time to cook up the figures.

And no, MS maybe had made more with SoD2 in may... in the US, but we know overall, the numbers won't be sustainable like in Sea of Thieves case where it plummeted a whole 16 spots the next month. We know Xbox fans' standards are so low that they'd champion Candy Crush as a top Xbox title if it hit number one.

If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Anyway, you want to be proud that a broken and mediocre game is at the top for MS? Then that reflects on the state of Xbox at current. I don't see Sony games hitting the top spot with low scores. That's insane, and shameful.

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@Pedro said:

Well that is mega ownage. The funny thing about these select Sony fannies is that they spent gross amount of time hating on a a system that they supposedly don't care about and is failing over everything else combine. They are like reverse fanboys, in that they hate Xbox and MS more passionately then they "love" anything else.

Says the guy that defends Xbox like someone insulted his dad. You act people not liking Xbox is a unique notion. At least less than half the sales of its competition and only got there by constantly dumping the price of the console. And they still act like they run the place, trying to goad Sony into giving up their active users on their network to them. Just came out with a mid-gen upgrade, and already talking about the next console. As much as they lie to their fans, I have a hard time wondering why they still own one? Is b/c that good?

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@sealionact said:

@BenjaminBanklin: It doesn't suit YOU that a damn console is selling well....you work yourself up into such a tizzy that anyone that is happy with their console of choice is an idiot in your view.

It can't be good for your health.

Xbox -in your words - is useless. So why get so angry when you're so happy with YOUR console of choice?

Anyway you twist and shout about the figures, MS made more money with SOD2 than Sony did with GOW in May. That's all that's being shown here, in reply to quack who made himself look sheepish by prematurely claiming otherwise, despite not having any reliable sources.

Oh, and if Xbox owners hadn't bought SOD2 in numbers, you would have been the first one here spouting that games don't sell well on Xbox.

You can't have it both ways, so suck it up....

Anyone who buys a game as broken as the magnitude of SoD2 in droves, are frankly, idiots. This isn't a win. This shows that the Xbox fandom can be fed anything as long as they're in solidarity. The reason why people are fishy about SoD2 being at the top is not only did the leaks have it NOwhere mentioned, it's the fact that the NPD announcement was delayed at least twice behind the scenes. Like MS needed time to cook up the figures.

And no, MS maybe had made more with SoD2 in may... in the US, but we know overall, the numbers won't be sustainable like in Sea of Thieves case where it plummeted a whole 16 spots the next month. We know Xbox fans' standards are so low that they'd champion Candy Crush as a top Xbox title if it hit number one.

If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Anyway, you want to be proud that a broken and mediocre game is at the top for MS? Then that reflects on the state of Xbox at current. I don't see Sony games hitting the top spot with low scores. That's insane, and shameful.

No people that think SoD2 is broken is an idiot. The few bugs that is did have are all gone!

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@Pedro said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Anyone who buys a game as broken as the magnitude of SoD2 in droves, are frankly, idiots. This isn't a win. This shows that the Xbox fandom can be fed anything as long as they're in solidarity. The reason why people are fishy about SoD2 being at the top is not only did the leaks have it NOwhere mentioned, it's the fact that the NPD announcement was delayed at least twice behind the scenes. Like MS needed time to cook up the figures.

And no, MS maybe had made more with SoD2 in may... in the US, but we know overall, the numbers won't be sustainable like in Sea of Thieves case where it plummeted a whole 16 spots the next month. We know Xbox fans' standards are so low that they'd champion Candy Crush as a top Xbox title if it hit number one.

If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Anyway, you want to be proud that a broken and mediocre game is at the top for MS? Then that reflects on the state of Xbox at current. I don't see Sony games hitting the top spot with low scores. That's insane, and shameful.

Don't have an argument, huh? This ain't your little r/xbone safe space. I bring it.

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@tormentos said:
@howmakewood said:

Nobody is saying SOD2 didn't sell the most copies, just that it made the most revenue. Who sells the most copies makes the most revenue applies if all the products are of the same price. 2x 60 = 120 and 3x 30 = 90, funny how that works. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant.

But that is the thing SOD2 was a NEW game at $30 on May while GOD 4 wasn't and was $60

PC + XBO >>> PS4 user by the way in case you wonder.

So again the game was half price and new which explain why it sold,other than that is just another meh game that scored low.

No irrelevant is that you claim it wasn't about copies sold when it is always who won npd sell more units period.

And my LINK PROVE that.

You have no idea how much Sony or MS makes on a game, only a idiot thinks they make all the money from a game.

It a MS Windows 10 PC + Xbox >>>>> PS4

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@BenjaminBanklin:

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@i_p_daily said:

@BenjaminBanklin:

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@Xabiss said:
@tormentos said:
@Xabiss said:

The entire point of this thread was to state the truth and not the false narratives you fanboys were trying to spread in the other NPD thread that was just lies. That is what happens when you don't fact check and you jump on the bandwagon believing leaks. This thread is a perfect example of how hypocritical you fanboys really are.

Your thread doesn't affect me in any way,GOW was a superior game to SOD2,and is teh second best selling game this year so far.

Ummm I agree it is a superior game and it should sale better overall.

sale? or sell?

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Your mistake is that you think that everyone in the world thinks like a "system warrior" like you. They don't. They just want something entertaining. It doesn't have to be the best game ever, it doesn't have to be the most polished, the best looking, or even particularly good. It just needs to be fun for a while. Apparently people found State of Decay 2 to be fun enough to warrant its price. And since it can be played with friends, I imagine that makes it all the more fun.

In evolutionary biology there's a saying, "it doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be good enough". Did you know humans have backwards retinas? Fun fact, but it turns out the way our eyes evolved was different than that of species such as squids or birds of prey, which have correct facing retinas and thus can see 100s of times better than us. But the point is it still works well enough for us to survive, to thrive even. It's a good analogy.

Even a technically bad game can do well, so long as it's fun enough to be entertaining.

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@The_Stand_In said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Your mistake is that you think that everyone in the world thinks like a "system warrior" like you. They don't. They just want something entertaining. It doesn't have to be the best game ever, it doesn't have to be the most polished, the best looking, or even particularly good. It just needs to be fun for a while. Apparently people found State of Decay 2 to be fun enough to warrant its price. And since it can be played with friends, I imagine that makes it all the more fun.

In evolutionary biology there's a saying, "it doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be good enough". Did you know humans have backwards retinas? Fun fact, but it turns out the way our eyes evolved was different than that of species such as squids or birds of prey, which have correct facing retinas and thus can see 100s of times better than us. But the point is it still works well enough for us to survive, to thrive even. It's a good analogy.

Even a technically bad game can do well, so long as it's fun enough to be entertaining.

Well said... But it will totally go over his head because he is a system warrior and thinks that way 24/7.

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@The_Stand_In said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

Your mistake is that you think that everyone in the world thinks like a "system warrior" like you. They don't. They just want something entertaining. It doesn't have to be the best game ever, it doesn't have to be the most polished, the best looking, or even particularly good. It just needs to be fun for a while. Apparently people found State of Decay 2 to be fun enough to warrant its price. And since it can be played with friends, I imagine that makes it all the more fun.

In evolutionary biology there's a saying, "it doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be good enough". Did you know humans have backwards retinas? Fun fact, but it turns out the way our eyes evolved was different than that of species such as squids or birds of prey, which have correct facing retinas and thus can see 100s of times better than us. But the point is it still works well enough for us to survive, to thrive even. It's a good analogy.

Even a technically bad game can do well, so long as it's fun enough to be entertaining.

That's an awful long post for "we'll settle for anything as long as it's on my system". Xbox gamers were hardly kind to Sony games that scored higher than SoD2 to a significant degree. Now that Xbox One high profile games are stinking up the joint, none of that matters now. If you want to enjoy games, enjoy them. It's just SoD2 represents the worst in gaming, a buggy mess that's rewarded with sales due to a malnourished fanbase used to diabetic gaming now.

I wish I could find this an acceptable answer when Team Xbox makes their mission to dump water over Sony games that are actually functional in comparison.

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#178 Pedro
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Don't have an argument, huh? This ain't your little r/xbone safe space. I bring it.

Nope, I can't argue against someone perpetually crying about a system they don't own or "don't care about".

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#179 cainetao11
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@tormentos said:
@cainetao11 said:

Whatever dude. State of Decay 2 sold well and is a lot of fun to play.

No doubt is sold well no one is saying otherwise,i don't know how fun it is i haven't play it.

Did you ever play the first one? Its better in every way. Its challenging to keep your community up as well.

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#180  Edited By cainetao11
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@cainetao11 said:

@howmakewood: I stand corrected then. It would make sense since NPD goes by Revenue. I would love to know how many Windows store sales it did then. All I ever see on SW is "LOL W10 Store is shit" but when it comes to something like this all of a sudden it has real stake in the numbers LOL

People say Windows 10 store is shit because they rather use Steam. But, since there's a bunch of people out there with no incentive to buy an Xbox console, but can play their games, it's the only option. Face it. MS is cheating with an extra edge. But, let 'em have it. If they want to draw attention to piss poor games by manipulating the system, so be it.

So then crossbuy on PS3 and 4 with Vita was cheating?

Just look at how serious you're taking this. "Cheating"? There is no trophy they are competing for. Its a business. MSFT owns Windows and it dominates PC OS market. They'd be idiots to not make sure their products are supported. Go out, get some air dude.

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#181 Chutebox
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Cheating lolol

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#182 sealionact
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@rrjim1 said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@sealionact said:

@BenjaminBanklin: It doesn't suit YOU that a damn console is selling well....you work yourself up into such a tizzy that anyone that is happy with their console of choice is an idiot in your view.

It can't be good for your health.

Xbox -in your words - is useless. So why get so angry when you're so happy with YOUR console of choice?

Anyway you twist and shout about the figures, MS made more money with SOD2 than Sony did with GOW in May. That's all that's being shown here, in reply to quack who made himself look sheepish by prematurely claiming otherwise, despite not having any reliable sources.

Oh, and if Xbox owners hadn't bought SOD2 in numbers, you would have been the first one here spouting that games don't sell well on Xbox.

You can't have it both ways, so suck it up....

"Anyone who buys a game as broken as the magnitude of SoD2 in droves, are frankly, idiots. This isn't a win. This shows that the Xbox fandom can be fed anything as long as they're in solidarity. The reason why people are fishy about SoD2 being at the top is not only did the leaks have it NOwhere mentioned, it's the fact that the NPD announcement was delayed at least twice behind the scenes. Like MS needed time to cook up the figures.

No people that think SoD2 is broken is an idiot. The few bugs that is did have are all gone!

No, they're just not as obsessed about gaming as you are, and probably bought the game not knowing there were bugs at launch. The fact that I never found the bugs to be experience killing, and that patches have fixed most issues means that I played a pretty fun game for a good week.
Uncharted 4 was launched with crippling bugs, but people weren't idiots for buying it either... were they?

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"People" are NOT "Fishy" ..... You are. No-one else cared to embarrass themselves by wailing "Microsoft cheated", because MS didn't make up the NPD calculation formula

And no, MS maybe had made more with SoD2 in may... in the US, but we know overall, the numbers won't be sustainable like in Sea of Thieves case where it plummeted a whole 16 spots the next month. We know Xbox fans' standards are so low that they'd champion Candy Crush as a top Xbox title if it hit number one.

What does that have to do with the story of a game being the top seller in May? You're bringing two other games into a discussion because you're trying to salt deflect. The issue is May in this thread.


If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

A faction of Xbox one owners needing an excuse? Oh you mean they want to play games.... who would have guessed that.


"Anyway, you want to be proud that a broken and mediocre game is at the top for MS? Then that reflects on the state of Xbox at current. I don't see Sony games hitting the top spot with low scores. That's insane, and shameful."


Where did ANYONE say they were proud of SOD2 being top of the charts, let alone me? Why are you inventing issues? You totally lost it on this thread, because people are having yet another laugh at Quack's expense and people are rightfully calling him out for making assumptions, and posting inaccurate leaks and then trolling about something that didn't materialise. Using words like "Insane, idiots and shameful" because your favourite game was outsold in May is just plain sad.

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#183 Spoty
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Cows in my area are already selling GOW online. Ive seen many copies for sale and the game just came out lmao!

Play once and done with type of game.

Havent seen any copies of State of Decay2 for sale.

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#184 Kali-B1rd
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@i_p_daily said:
@ten_pints said:

Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

You're another one of those "gamers" who plays scores, that pretty sad :(

Not defending Lems here, but THIS.

In reality I bet most of the Cows are playing 8.0+ games day in day out, while playing God of War once, Uncharted once, then putting them on an imaginary pedestal for this place.

I would love to see thier PSN accounts, or the average steam account. or the top 10 most played games on PSN.

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#185  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@spoty said:

Cows in my area are already selling GOW online. Ive seen many copies for sale and the game just came out lmao!

A game being played once doesn't mean it's bad. In some cases not playing a game again, or for a long period of time stops diminishing returns. i.e. better...

Halflife 2 being a prime example.

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#186 tormentos
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@spoty said:

Cows in my area are already selling GOW online. Ive seen many copies for sale and the game just came out lmao!

Play once and done with type of game.

Havent seen any copies of State of Decay2 for sale.

This ^^ type of posting is what tell you that this is a shitty alt account a new commer that act like he has been here for 10 years,and use the same shitty arguments and the most stupid lemmings on the forum as well..lol

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#187 tormentos
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@cainetao11 said:

So then crossbuy on PS3 and 4 with Vita was cheating?

Just look at how serious you're taking this. "Cheating"? There is no trophy they are competing for. Its a business. MSFT owns Windows and it dominates PC OS market. They'd be idiots to not make sure their products are supported. Go out, get some air dude.

The only reason xbox games are on PC is because the xbox one is a failure sales wise,Halo 3 sold 11 million copies on 360 Halo 5 hasn't sold half that.

This is busyness and they know they need as much cash as they can get out of the xbox division,but the truth is the xbox loss its identity once its games landed on PC,is a one way deal that benefit PC gamers but not xbox gamers as they don't get PC exclusives.

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#188  Edited By QuadKnight
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? By the lem turn out in this thread I'm assuming most of these lems will show up to next month's NPD thread when SOD2 flops out of the top 20, right?

Because it will be hilarious if these same clowns gloating in here abandon next month's NPD thread like they've done in previous months when they've been getting rekt.

It's funny how NPD only matters to these clowns when they have a game at the top. When it's a Sony game NPD no longer matters lol.

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#189 BenjaminBanklin
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@cainetao11 said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@cainetao11 said:

@howmakewood: I stand corrected then. It would make sense since NPD goes by Revenue. I would love to know how many Windows store sales it did then. All I ever see on SW is "LOL W10 Store is shit" but when it comes to something like this all of a sudden it has real stake in the numbers LOL

People say Windows 10 store is shit because they rather use Steam. But, since there's a bunch of people out there with no incentive to buy an Xbox console, but can play their games, it's the only option. Face it. MS is cheating with an extra edge. But, let 'em have it. If they want to draw attention to piss poor games by manipulating the system, so be it.

So then crossbuy on PS3 and 4 with Vita was cheating?

Just look at how serious you're taking this. "Cheating"? There is no trophy they are competing for. Its a business. MSFT owns Windows and it dominates PC OS market. They'd be idiots to not make sure their products are supported. Go out, get some air dude.

Nope, because they're on consoles. And just how many crossplat games were there on PS4 that charted on NPD that weren't niche Japanese titles? Especially now. And yeah, there is something to compete for, being at the top of the pile, or at least in a state enough to make the venture profitable. As we can see, Sony's exclusives on their own can chart up there with new multiplat releases. THAT'S what you want your console to be.

@sealionact said:
@rrjim1 said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@sealionact said:

@BenjaminBanklin: It doesn't suit YOU that a damn console is selling well....you work yourself up into such a tizzy that anyone that is happy with their console of choice is an idiot in your view.

It can't be good for your health.

Xbox -in your words - is useless. So why get so angry when you're so happy with YOUR console of choice?

Anyway you twist and shout about the figures, MS made more money with SOD2 than Sony did with GOW in May. That's all that's being shown here, in reply to quack who made himself look sheepish by prematurely claiming otherwise, despite not having any reliable sources.

Oh, and if Xbox owners hadn't bought SOD2 in numbers, you would have been the first one here spouting that games don't sell well on Xbox.

You can't have it both ways, so suck it up....

"Anyone who buys a game as broken as the magnitude of SoD2 in droves, are frankly, idiots. This isn't a win. This shows that the Xbox fandom can be fed anything as long as they're in solidarity. The reason why people are fishy about SoD2 being at the top is not only did the leaks have it NOwhere mentioned, it's the fact that the NPD announcement was delayed at least twice behind the scenes. Like MS needed time to cook up the figures.

No people that think SoD2 is broken is an idiot. The few bugs that is did have are all gone!

No, they're just not as obsessed about gaming as you are, and probably bought the game not knowing there were bugs at launch. The fact that I never found the bugs to be experience killing, and that patches have fixed most issues means that I played a pretty fun game for a good week.

Uncharted 4 was launched with crippling bugs, but people weren't idiots for buying it either... were they?

Loading Video...

"People" are NOT "Fishy" ..... You are. No-one else cared to embarrass themselves by wailing "Microsoft cheated", because MS didn't make up the NPD calculation formula

And no, MS maybe had made more with SoD2 in may... in the US, but we know overall, the numbers won't be sustainable like in Sea of Thieves case where it plummeted a whole 16 spots the next month. We know Xbox fans' standards are so low that they'd champion Candy Crush as a top Xbox title if it hit number one.

What does that have to do with the story of a game being the top seller in May? You're bringing two other games into a discussion because you're trying to salt deflect. The issue is May in this thread.

If Xbox gamers DIDN'T buy this game, it would be normal. Most people would expect it. But since there's a faction of Xbox One owners needing an excuse to turn on their system, they're gonna eat whatever's handed to them. The true story of this game's performance will be next month, when GoW is still in the top ten and State of Decay 2 eats it. MS has this figured out how to manipulate the system for big debuts, but the numbers drop sharply after the fact. Like I say, there's no way a game like this should be debuting higher than PUBG, that's horsehit.

A faction of Xbox one owners needing an excuse? Oh you mean they want to play games.... who would have guessed that.

"Anyway, you want to be proud that a broken and mediocre game is at the top for MS? Then that reflects on the state of Xbox at current. I don't see Sony games hitting the top spot with low scores. That's insane, and shameful."

Where did ANYONE say they were proud of SOD2 being top of the charts, let alone me? Why are you inventing issues? You totally lost it on this thread, because people are having yet another laugh at Quack's expense and people are rightfully calling him out for making assumptions, and posting inaccurate leaks and then trolling about something that didn't materialise. Using words like "Insane, idiots and shameful" because your favourite game was outsold in May is just plain sad.

Uncharted did not have crippling bugs, you keep trying to push this narrative with that video. Those are glitches that are rare for most players. SOD2 is so broken, they have a button to reset things in case they get out of hand. That's early access-level shit. But guess what? People buy them anyway because they've got the Micro-stick so far up their butts that removing it will kill them.

If you bought this game knowing the state it was in, then you're the one that's obsessed with Xbox. I would never buy a game from Sony that was that broken. Xbox gamers completely change the narrative once their games start getting kicked around in reviews and dogpile on these trashy games even more. "I had so much fun!". Yeah, I'm sure even cigarette ashes are delicious when you haven't had a meal in months. It's why they're coming up with expressions like "68 is the new 88" because their standards have gone dirt low.

Anyway, the next time a Sony exclusive scores in the 60s, we're gonna see the reaction from Team Xbox then. Anyway, I bring up Sea of Thieves because this appears to be the pattern from here on. Game Pass/Pal Anywhere enabled game has big debut, gone the next month. Mark my words. Sea of Thieves was number 2, and then didn't exist anymore. MS is doing this completely fly-by-night. Making these positions on the chart meaningless.

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#190 BenjaminBanklin
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@kali-b1rd said:
@i_p_daily said:
@ten_pints said:

Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

You're another one of those "gamers" who plays scores, that pretty sad :(

Not defending Lems here, but THIS.

In reality I bet most of the Cows are playing 8.0+ games day in day out, while playing God of War once, Uncharted once, then putting them on an imaginary pedestal for this place.

I would love to see thier PSN accounts, or the average steam account. or the top 10 most played games on PSN.

Uh oh, back to the scores don't matter narrative, after being drowned in gloating with Mario Odyssey, Zelda and Forza Horizon 3. No, scores shouldn't matter for your measure of fun and what you like. But games like SoD2 with game-crashing bugs shouldn't be rewarded period.

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@BenjaminBanklin: how many times has SoD2 crashed on you?

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#192  Edited By QuadKnight
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@boycie said:

@BenjaminBanklin: how many times has SoD2 crashed on you?

It's probably has never crashed on him before because he's wise enough not to support shitty broken games like you lems.

I know fun is subjective but broken games aren't subjective. No real gamer should support devs who release shitty broken games.

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#193 BenjaminBanklin
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@boycie said:

@BenjaminBanklin: how many times has SoD2 crashed on you?

A big fat none since I'm not so hungry for games that I gave a trillion-dollar company money for a broken product.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@boycie said:

@BenjaminBanklin: how many times has SoD2 crashed on you?

A big fat none since I'm not so hungry for games that I gave a trillion-dollar company money for a broken product.

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#195  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@i_p_daily said:
@ten_pints said:

Pretty sad a game that scores that badly is their most sold game.

You're another one of those "gamers" who plays scores, that pretty sad :(

Not defending Lems here, but THIS.

In reality I bet most of the Cows are playing 8.0+ games day in day out, while playing God of War once, Uncharted once, then putting them on an imaginary pedestal for this place.

I would love to see thier PSN accounts, or the average steam account. or the top 10 most played games on PSN.

Uh oh, back to the scores don't matter narrative, after being drowned in gloating with Mario Odyssey, Zelda and Forza Horizon 3. No, scores shouldn't matter for your measure of fun and what you like. But games like SoD2 with game-crashing bugs shouldn't be rewarded period.

Just like you lot use the "only AAA games matter" narrative when PC is brought up with having the most high scoring games overall every single year since forever?

Depends, are people enjoying SoD2?

You mistake polish with fun factor.... a mistake Sony fanboys ALWAYS make. games don't have to be polished to the point where your rough rock is now a tiny grain of sand.

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@BenjaminBanklin: There's no game crashing bugs. It's a fun game. It's cheapish. People kind of like it. It did better in May than any other game. Quack has admitted he was wrong (This time, not the other times).

Deal with it, and move on.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@boycie said:

@BenjaminBanklin: how many times has SoD2 crashed on you?

A big fat none since I'm not so hungry for games that I gave a trillion-dollar company money for a broken product.

You paid a company with more money than god for a busted product, and I'm salty? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

@kali-b1rd said:

Just like you lot use the "only AAA games matter" narrative when PC is brought up with having the most high scoring games overall every single year since forever?

Depends, are people enjoying SoD2?

You mistake polish with fun factor.... a mistake Sony fanboys ALWAYS make. games don't have to be polished to the point where your rough rock is now a tiny grain of sand.

You must be mistaking me with someone else. It's not all about AAA games, its about making them as functional as possible before release. It's nice to hear Team Xbox and all their defenders excuse broken games now. Like they've been doing since December. Not only that, but go back asking for more. Especially since a handful of them went and bought a $500 upgrade to it to play them.

Not only excusing them, but apparently asking for more.

@sealionact said:

@BenjaminBanklin: There's no game crashing bugs. It's a fun game. It's cheapish. People kind of like it. It did better in May than any other game. Quack has admitted he was wrong (This time, not the other times).

Deal with it, and move on.

I don't have to deal with it, you bought the game. You're the one with egg on your face asking for more. And then you wonder why you people are ass-last in the industry.

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I am so very glad to see Detroit doing so well!!!!

Game is incredible

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@BenjaminBanklin: A busted product? Lmao. The X wipes the floor with the half-arsed Pro... try again.

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#200 tormentos
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@BenjaminBanklin: A busted product? Lmao. The X wipes the floor with the half-arsed Pro... try again.

Hahahhaaa no it basically had the same advantage the PS4 had over the xbox one,but unlike the PS4 which was $100 less than the xbox one on day 1,the xbox one X arrived 1 year latter an at a $100 more.

Oh by the way should i point out that lemmings such as your self never cared for the PS4 gap or mind about it.?

Hahahaa