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#1 metalisticpain
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Title said it

http://au.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/video/6239992/new-super-mario-bros-wii-video-review?tag=summary;watch-review

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Wii's last real shot at AAA this year. Shame really. Still very good score, nothing to be ashamed of there.
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Sucks. I was expecting AAA. Still, not doubt a good buy.

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#4 OreoMilkshake
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Called it.
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#5 treedoor
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Thought it'd get a 9.0 like the DS version considering this one adds multiplayer.

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#6 Shy_Guy_Red
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Got my prediction right.

Can't say I wanted to get it right. =/

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#7 Zerocrossings
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Wow GS reviewed it early.

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#8 metalisticpain
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Thought it'd get a 9.0 like the DS version considering this one adds multiplayer.

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But maybe thats the problem. They brought it back on the DS and the wii version doesnt have enough on top of that. I would have licked unlockable characters to play through as, even though they dont change anything. Get all the toads, maybe even play through as the koopa kids when u beat it. Maybe a scramble mode, which scrambles the levels? kind of like Mario kart mirror mode at the end. That sort of thing.
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#9 salxis
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I r owned, another GOTY contender lost :(
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#10 get-ka12
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Suprised it got that high. Who is Nintendo kidding thinking they can release games based on old gimmicks that were good at the time but don't translate into the NOW period trying to pander to that old Nostalgia sense. Same thing they tried with Twilight Princess and it failed. Mario Galaxy is a good Mario game, they should stick with that formula. It may be sad to say it, but I think the 2D Marios are a thing of the past. The new ones JUST DON'T WORK.
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#11 treedoor
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Thought it'd get a 9.0 like the DS version considering this one adds multiplayer.

metalisticpain

But maybe thats the problem. They brought it back on the DS and the wii version doesnt have enough on top of that. I would have licked unlockable characters to play through as, even though they dont change anything. Get all the toads, maybe even play through as the koopa kids when u beat it. Maybe a scramble mode, which scrambles the levels? kind of like Mario kart mirror mode at the end. That sort of thing.

Yah, but judging from the video in the other thread having multiple people changes the game a lot. You can hurt eachother, and jump on eachother, and kill eachother :P

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8.5 seems spot-on for this game. I played trough it with a friend and while it's a great game, it's simply too similiar to New Super Mario Bros. (the DS version). And the superguide thing is actually a great addition. If you're a good player you won't ever see the the guide block. I never actually saw it.

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#13 Bigboi500
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I called it. Gamespot simply will not give a 2D game like this, without great graphics and the almighty online, AAA no matter what this day and age despite how good a game really is. They've lost their gaming souls to corporate business practices.

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Umm, isn't this Australia only?

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Suprised it got that high. Who is Nintendo kidding thinking they can release games based on old gimmicks that were good at the time but don't translate into the NOW period trying to pander to that old Nostalgia sense. Same thing they tried with Twilight Princess and it failed. Mario Galaxy is a good Mario game, they should stick with that formula. It may be sad to say it, but I think the 2D Marios are a thing of the past. The new ones JUST DON'T WORK.get-ka12
You act like NSMBWii (or TP) scored poorly. Both got great scores.
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#16 metalisticpain
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Umm, isn't this Australia only?

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Um no? why would nitnendo release a game in Aus only, we have a pop of 20mill, and prob only 4mill have a wii (of that). The only region that gets region only games is generally japan
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#17 Pixel-Pirate
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I called it. Gamespot simply will not give a 2D game like this, without great graphics and the almighty online, AAA no matter what this day and age despite how good a game really is. They've lost their gaming souls to corporate business practices.

Bigboi500

This.

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#18 CakeBalls
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Umm, isn't this Australia only?

PatchMaster
GS only has one team review a game from what I've seen.
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#19 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Umm, isn't this Australia only?

metalisticpain
Um no? why would nitnendo release a game in Aus only, we have a pop of 20mill, and prob only 4mill have a wii (of that). The only region that gets region only games is generally japan

He meant the review. And no it's not.
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I called it. Gamespot simply will not give a 2D game like this, without great graphics and the almighty online, AAA no matter what this day and age despite how good a game really is. They've lost their gaming souls to corporate business practices.

Bigboi500
Braid? Unless you are saying it's judged on different standard, even though it's better than most of the full priced games.
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#21 metalisticpain
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[QUOTE="metalisticpain"][QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Umm, isn't this Australia only?

OreoMilkshake
Um no? why would nitnendo release a game in Aus only, we have a pop of 20mill, and prob only 4mill have a wii (of that). The only region that gets region only games is generally japan

He meant the review. And no it's not.

oh touche'
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#22 Litchie
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Awesomesauce! Great score for a great game. Man, can't wait till me and my friends get our hands on this gem.

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great score but I at least thought nine from the QL @ GB which has me laughing my ass off. Looks like a lot of fun and an awesome game for the wii.

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#24 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I just finished watching the review. Hell, it looks epic.
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#25 get-ka12
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[QUOTE="get-ka12"]Suprised it got that high. Who is Nintendo kidding thinking they can release games based on old gimmicks that were good at the time but don't translate into the NOW period trying to pander to that old Nostalgia sense. Same thing they tried with Twilight Princess and it failed. Mario Galaxy is a good Mario game, they should stick with that formula. It may be sad to say it, but I think the 2D Marios are a thing of the past. The new ones JUST DON'T WORK.IronBass
You act like NSMBWii (or TP) scored poorly. Both got great scores.

Not for being Mario and Zelda games, the scores are not great.

Why Nintendo would give themselves the handicap of making a game 2D instead of just making an all-out good game like Mario Galaxy 2 is beyond me, and Twilight Princess was a sad disappointment, just as bad as those Philips CD-i titles. (kidding, of course not, just wanted to say that)

Twilight Princess just tried too hard to "dig up the past" in a way. Same with this new Mario game. The New Super Mario Bros game they made for DS a couple years ago is the same way.

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Not for being Mario and Zelda games, the scores are not greatget-ka12
8.5 and 8.9 are not bad for any game. At all.
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#27 metalisticpain
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But they are already making an all out good game calledSMG2? are u saying you would prefer the team that made this to not do anything? since the other team is already making a SMG sequel? This isnt a handicap. this thing is going to sell a tonne, and its for a crowd that love the old school days of 2d platforming. The DS verison also sold millions. people love these games.
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#28 PatchMaster
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Well then,good score and great price. If it only costs $35 and the difficulty has be ramped up then we have a win. Seems like Ninty is looking to make a lot of money from wiimote sales off of it though.

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[QUOTE="get-ka12"]Not for being Mario and Zelda games, the scores are not greatIronBass
8.5 and 8.9 are not bad for any game. At all.

In the modern days of game reviews, anything but a 9.0 or higher is crud to some people.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I called it. Gamespot simply will not give a 2D game like this, without great graphics and the almighty online, AAA no matter what this day and age despite how good a game really is. They've lost their gaming souls to corporate business practices.

salxis

Braid? Unless you are saying it's judged on different standard, even though it's better than most of the full priced games.

Yep Braid was probably judged by a lower standard against other downloadable games. Read the review, the reviewer even complains about the game not looking as good as Galaxy. :?

I think they're sending a message that says something like: "Don't make games like this anymore unless they're downloadable or we won't give it a 'superb' score no matter what.". Gamespot and just about every other gamesite is in the business of pushing graphics and technology these days it's pretty obvious. Them handing out AAAs to short shooters like MW2 and ODST pretty much signifies that.

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[QUOTE="get-ka12"]Not for being Mario and Zelda games, the scores are not greatIronBass
8.5 and 8.9 are not bad for any game. At all.

Unless he was refering to...(dramatic music) the 8.8 :P
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Unless he was refering to...(dramatic music) the 8.8 :PAce6301
The... Eight... point... EIGHT. :x
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Who the **bleep** is Randolph Ramsey? 8.5 sounds like a decent score, though, given that the game is extremely simplistic in visual design. Gameplay sounds solid, which is the important part.
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[QUOTE="salxis"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I called it. Gamespot simply will not give a 2D game like this, without great graphics and the almighty online, AAA no matter what this day and age despite how good a game really is. They've lost their gaming souls to corporate business practices.

Bigboi500

Braid? Unless you are saying it's judged on different standard, even though it's better than most of the full priced games.

Yep it was probably judged by a lower standard against other downloadable games. Read the review, the reviewer even complains about the game not looking as good as Galaxy. :?

I think they're sending a message that says something like: "Don't make games like this anymore unless they're downloadable or we won't give it a 'superb' score no matter what.". Gamespot and just about every other gamesite is in the business of pushing graphics and technology these days it's pretty obvious. Them handing out AAAs to short shooters like MW2 and ODST pretty much signifies that.

I think it's solely because Nintendo doesn't play as dirty. Less hype, they don't blow up the expectations and empty promises as much, less deals with reviewers, less media attention. That's the feeling i get. That they just want people to buy the game cause of what it is and not because of some tricks. Could be wrong though.
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#35 metalisticpain
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[QUOTE="salxis"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I called it. Gamespot simply will not give a 2D game like this, without great graphics and the almighty online, AAA no matter what this day and age despite how good a game really is. They've lost their gaming souls to corporate business practices.

Bigboi500

Braid? Unless you are saying it's judged on different standard, even though it's better than most of the full priced games.

Yep Braid was probably judged by a lower standard against other downloadable games. Read the review, the reviewer even complains about the game not looking as good as Galaxy. :?

I think they're sending a message that says something like: "Don't make games like this anymore unless they're downloadable or we won't give it a 'superb' score no matter what.". Gamespot and just about every other gamesite is in the business of pushing graphics and technology these days it's pretty obvious. Them handing out AAAs to short shooters like MW2 and ODST pretty much signifies that.

IGN AU gave its a 9.2 i think
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Who the **bleep** is Randolph Ramsey? 8.5 sounds like a decent score, though, given that the game is extremely simplistic in visual design. Gameplay sounds solid, which is the important part.

Our Australian editor!
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#37 Sollet
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Still a good score :)
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="salxis"] Braid? Unless you are saying it's judged on different standard, even though it's better than most of the full priced games.KungfuKitten

Yep it was probably judged by a lower standard against other downloadable games. Read the review, the reviewer even complains about the game not looking as good as Galaxy. :?

I think they're sending a message that says something like: "Don't make games like this anymore unless they're downloadable or we won't give it a 'superb' score no matter what.". Gamespot and just about every other gamesite is in the business of pushing graphics and technology these days it's pretty obvious. Them handing out AAAs to short shooters like MW2 and ODST pretty much signifies that.

I think it's solely because Nintendo doesn't play as dirty. Less hype, they don't blow up the expectations and empty promises as much, less deals with reviewers, less media attention. That's the feeling i get. That they just want people to buy the game cause of what it is and not because of some tricks. Could be wrong though.

That could be it, Nintendo doesn't need to wine and dine reviewers because they know the game will sell great no matter what while most other titles heavily rely on hype and score to sell well. I doubt Ninty offered plush hotel rooms or shameful shwag etc. for this review.

Even if NSMBW had scored higher there's no way it would have a chance at GOTY anyways with the amount of focus given to much larger blockbuster type games out this year. Scores don't mean anything to me anymore and haven't for a long time now in the modern media age, I'm just calling it like I see it.

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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Who the **bleep** is Randolph Ramsey? 8.5 sounds like a decent score, though, given that the game is extremely simplistic in visual design. Gameplay sounds solid, which is the important part.

Would You rather have more complex visuals?
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Wow 8.5 , thats a great score! Can't wait to play it.

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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Who the **bleep** is Randolph Ramsey? 8.5 sounds like a decent score, though, given that the game is extremely simplistic in visual design. Gameplay sounds solid, which is the important part.KungfuKitten
Would You rather have more complex visuals?

A little makeover would be nice imo.

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#42 Darth_DuMas
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OMG I just watched that review... fantastic. It looks amazing, its tough, and has plenty of single player, i'm preordering this right now. I had it pegged as some multiplayer game that was going to be easy.

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It looks amazing, its tough, and has plenty of single playerDarth_DuMas
Yes, the ammount of content + difficulty is what got me really excited about it.
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It may be sad to say it, but I think the 2D Marios are a thing of the past. The new ones JUST DON'T WORK.get-ka12
You're right, it is sad to hear you say it.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Who the **bleep** is Randolph Ramsey? 8.5 sounds like a decent score, though, given that the game is extremely simplistic in visual design. Gameplay sounds solid, which is the important part.KungfuKitten
Would You rather have more complex visuals?

Not at all, I just figure that the visuals are a big part of the game getting scored down, which makes the 8.5 more impressive.
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Not at all, I just figure that the visuals are a big part of the game getting scored down, which makes the 8.5 more impressive.DJ_Lae
Well, that and the lack of Classic Controller support seem to be the only signficant flaws the review found. I personally love how it looks, but the lack of CC support it's disappointing.
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#47 Darth_DuMas
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"] Not at all, I just figure that the visuals are a big part of the game getting scored down, which makes the 8.5 more impressive.IronBass
Well, that and the lack of Classic Controller support seem to be the only signficant flaws the review found. I personally love how it looks, but the lack of CC support it's disappointing.

I fully agree, we'll have to see how well the motion works, but I can't imagine it not being a hindrance in a 2D platformer, they usually demand a bit of precision.

The Super Guide thing shouldn't be there though, everyone should suffer some old school difficulty :twisted:

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#48 SolidTy
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AAA HEADSHOT!!!...and a miss.

Still, AA is amazing, and I can't wait to sink my teeth into the packaging...literally, I am going to eat the game.:o

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The Super Guide thing shouldn't be there though, everyone should suffer some old school difficulty :twisted:Darth_DuMas
But but but, teh noobs? D=
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#50 SpinoRaptor24
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I was sure it would score AAA. Oh well.

Might pick it up down the road.