Nvidia / HP : Consoles are Dying ( 1 gen left )

hate to say it but moms will always buy thier 8 year olds consoles as long as their aroundTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

hate to say it but moms will always buy thier 8 year olds consoles as long as their aroundTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

Hopefully not. I don't want to play MMOs, RTS, WoW, and Farmville all day.Mr_Cumberdale

Me either, luckily the PC has a huge variety of games aside from those games/genres

Hopefully not. I don't want to play MMOs, RTS, WoW, and Farmville all day.Mr_Cumberdale

Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

quaappybla

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]hate to say it but moms will always buy thier 8 year olds consoles as long as their aroundi5750at4Ghz

Consoles will always be the bigger gaming market, they just go through cycles of stagnation until a new console is released, rinse and repeat. I think more people prefer easy to get into, usually social gaming sitting on a couch with the big screen.

Seems like good ol' corporate PR talk if you ask me.

i disagree, PC's have always been way ahead in power but that hasn't stopped consoles from selling before, why would it be any different now?delta3074

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Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

ehussein1379

Could you show me that computer? I would like to see what it is they are doing.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]hate to say it but moms will always buy thier 8 year olds consoles as long as their aroundTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

quaappybla

Hopefully not. I don't want to play MMOs, RTS, WoW, and Farmville all day.Mr_Cumberdale

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Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

quaappybla

Could you show me that computer? I would like to see what it is they are doing.

Until desktop and laptops PCs from the likes of HP, Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc ship with the capability to play games within the current gen of games they release in, then I would say consoles are going nowhere.

With all due respect to HP and Nvidia. I cannot stand when people or coporations make claims with no evidence or logic to support it.

Until desktop and laptops PCs from the likes of HP, Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc ship with the capability to play games within the current gen of games they release in, then I would say consoles are going nowhere.

With all due respect to HP and Nvidia. I cannot stand when people or coporations make claims with no evidence or logic to support it.

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Not if said kid can get a gaming laptop or PC for the same price.ehussein1379

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Until desktop and laptops PCs from the likes of HP, Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc ship with the capability to play games within the current gen of games they release in, then I would say consoles are going nowhere.

With all due respect to HP and Nvidia. I cannot stand when people or coporations make claims with no evidence or logic to support it.

ehussein1379

I hope that is the case. Console makers got lazy this gen and should have released new systems last year. It's the reason I gave up on them and went back to PC gaming.

yeah i am sure my 7 year old nephew and my older bro who does not even know how to install a hard drive in his ps3 will run out and make custom pcs or get a gimped over priced hp.

[QUOTE="ehussein1379"][QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"] where can u get a decent gaming pc for 200 bucks? more or lessTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

yeah i am sure my 7 year old nephew and my older bro who does not even know how to install a hard drive in his ps3 will run out and make custom pcs or get a gimped over priced hp.

dontshackzmii

As soon as I can get a PC that can play great games, with great graphics, while playing Blu Ray movies, all from the comfort of my recliner for $299, then I'm all for PC's completely replacing consoles.

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[QUOTE="ehussein1379"] HP is doing exactly that.ehussein1379

Could you show me that computer? I would like to see what it is they are doing.

Just where are you getting your information from :?

They might be right. If new consoles come out a few years from now and they pack them with high end hardware... The hardware might be good enough to the point where gamers dont actually want improved hardware beyond that point... or at least i expect the gen to last well over 10 years... and the next step will probably be cloud gaming or something that wouldnt require new hardware.

Translation: nobody is using an Nvidia GPU for a next gen console. :P

We all know PC is "where its at for gaming", but the industry is waking up to that as well. Recently the Nvidia VP said: "Our advantage as developers is we know what is coming," he said. "And what is coming is far ahead of the console. You will see a huge difference between what you can get on a PC and a console." HP is releasing a new line of gaming PCs saying: "I believe the days of the console are numbered," And really when you think of it why would someone buy a new console? Put that money towards a PC and have versatility AND the best set of games. Coupled with the fact that PC digital sales provide the developers with dramatically more profit than selling on consoles (physical vs digital and MS/Sony fees vs no fees) I think you will see developers really push for PC in the coming years (BF3 being an initial sign of the change).ehussein1379

Nividia/HP can talk all they want about how amazing and awesome PCs are. And frankly, sure, they have a point. But the FACT is that the awesomeness and power of PCs is nothing new and hasn't helped stop or slow the console business one bit. And it also doesn't change the fact that a lot of developers are only now focusing more and more on console gaming instead of PC, like they may have previously.

So in short, people still primarily support console gaming and developers are supporting consoles more now that ever...and Nvidia sees that as a sign of consoles dying? Based on what? The fact they are making really cool things that they want to sell us and have a stake in downplaying consoles?

PCs will always have a place in the gaming world. And sure, maybe one day they will once again be the primary gaming rig in people's homes. But I don't see that happening any time soon. Certainly not next gen.

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"][QUOTE="ehussein1379"] PS3 released at $500 - today a $500 PC will drop kick both consoles into Oblivion. (or Skyrim)ehussein1379

Translation: nobody is using an Nvidia GPU for a next gen console. :P

Teufelhuhn

Translation: nobody is using an Nvidia GPU for a next gen console. :P

Teufelhuhn

Nvidia's just upset that Ati got the console deals. Nintendo is confirmed to use ATI and the next xbox will most likely use ATI as well.

*looks at the sale figures for consoles and console games*

*looks at the sale figures for pc games*

:lol:

Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

quaappybla

Oh yeah, and you can't rent games for PC...which is another advantage consoles have. Sorry, some games aren't worth $60. Some are a weekend rental and that's it. Gamefly can't exist for PC's. I can't lend a friend a game, or borrow one. I can't sell my old PC games and buy new ones with the money.

Maybe that's why piracy is rampant on the PC?

What so everyone will start shifting over to PC? Doubtful.

Oh yeah, and you can't rent games for PC...which is another advantage consoles have. Sorry, some games aren't worth $60. Some are a weekend rental and that's it. Gamefly can't exist for PC's. I can't lend a friend a game, or borrow one. I can't sell my old PC games and buy new ones with the money.

Maybe that's why piracy is rampant on the PC?

testament1

I believe Direct2Drive has a rental service for PC game now. Advantage lost.

Gamefly sucks anyway. My postal service lost 3 games in the mail and I was held responsible.

I seriously doubt that console gaming is going anywhere.

Oh yeah, and you can't rent games for PC...which is another advantage consoles have. Sorry, some games aren't worth $60. Some are a weekend rental and that's it. Gamefly can't exist for PC's. I can't lend a friend a game, or borrow one. I can't sell my old PC games and buy new ones with the money.

Maybe that's why piracy is rampant on the PC?

testament1

Piracy is More rampent, 'cause it's just easier..

I believe Direct2Drive has a rental service for PC game now. Advantage lost.

Gamefly sucks anyway. My postal service lost 3 games in the mail and I was held responsible.

ChubbyGuy40

Holy mother of all things pineapple, it has a rental service? wat?@!?

Yes, because as soon as it costs too much to develop anything for consoles, developers will flood to the PC to develop games with even higher requirements.

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Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

ehussein1379

HP you say, eh?

If their reliability is as good as their inkjet printers and laptops, it will make Microsoft RROD syndrome look like high quality manufacturing standards.

Seriously, I went through 3 of their printers before I decided "enough was enough". They're all junk - barely lasted a year each with just moderate use - the 1st two I bough were admittedly cheap models, but the 3rd time I went with a high rated and more expensive model hoping for a better experience. It still crapped out on me. Moved over to Canon and have had no problem for 4 years. Then a few years later I gave them a chance on a laptop, it lasted 18 months before the motherboard/VGA chip basically melted itself due to faulty heatsink design. Before the HP, my Dell laptop lasted 7 years - but i've heard Dell's took a dive in quality which is why I went with HP this last time. LOL that was a mkstake, never again HP.

Holy mother of all things pineapple, it has a rental service? wat?@!?

Inconsistancy

Don't remember if its D2D, but some DD service has a rental type service.

Guess we'll see, eh?

[QUOTE="quaappybla"]

Unless computer manufacturers start building computers similar to consoles in terms of ease of use, i think consoles will stay around.

C_Rule

[QUOTE="testament1"]

Oh yeah, and you can't rent games for PC...which is another advantage consoles have. Sorry, some games aren't worth $60. Some are a weekend rental and that's it. Gamefly can't exist for PC's. I can't lend a friend a game, or borrow one. I can't sell my old PC games and buy new ones with the money.

Maybe that's why piracy is rampant on the PC?

ChubbyGuy40

I believe Direct2Drive has a rental service for PC game now. Advantage lost.

Gamefly sucks anyway. My postal service lost 3 games in the mail and I was held responsible.

Yeah...I guess that's the same...except renting a game from blockbuster takes what...20 minutes round trip? Then I'm playing within 20 minutes or so after an install and possible updates. Meanwhile, the savy PC gamer who decided to "rent" a PC game from this supposed DD site has to wait several hours for the 5-7gb download, then install it, then update. Then the PC gamer has to fiddle with all their settings to make sure everything runs right. Then they may have to update their video card driver because of some issue with the game. Etc, etc, etc.

Sorry, consoles are very more convinient and easy to use. Just like consoles will always be inferior to PC's on the technical level...PC's will always lag way behind in the ease of use department.