Nvidia: It's absolute nonsense to think that consoles are at the cutting edge

[QUOTE="clone01"]

yeah, i wasn't knocking people who want to build one, but a few posters on SW who shall remain nameless make it out to be as easy as tying your shoe, which is just not the case.

rimnet00

While it's not as easy as tying your shoes, it's as easy as putting together a lego set. Except, there are less pieces, and everything only fits in one way. Heck, everything is color coded even. I understand that some people can feel intimidated by the assumption that PCs are hard to build, but I assure you... anyone with a Middle School education can do it.

they never used to be colour coded, well not as much as it is now :O

MBs are mega colourfull.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

yeah, i wasn't knocking people who want to build one, but a few posters on SW who shall remain nameless make it out to be as easy as tying your shoe, which is just not the case.

rimnet00

While it's not as easy as tying your shoes, it's as easy as putting together a lego set. Except, there are less pieces, and everything only fits in one way. Heck, everything is color coded even. I understand that some people can feel intimidated by the assumption that PCs are hard to build, but I assure you... anyone with a Middle School education can do it.

I actually built my first machine in 8th grade - and that was a while ago before Windows installed all the drivers for you automatically and patched itself to the latest and greatest version.

It really is so easy now that anyone can do it. I've put together IKEA furniture that was more complicated than building a computer.

"In terms of raw processing power, the high-end PCs are at least three times more powerful."Painballz

Well you cant argue with this statement, but consoles are good in thier own way, they are not meant to be the most powerful. Just powerful enough to provide an easy way to play the great games they release on each console.

I think would be absolute nonsense from Nvidia part, to consider real gamers want cutting edge hardware, without many games to even remotly use that harwdare

If 90% of PC games were looking like Crysis, then the investement in "cutting edge" would be wellcome, now there is only that, Crysis, a bit far from ideal reason to waste money on the best hardare if you ask me, when all other games look subpar comparing to that one

And even Crysis is not fully optimised yet for current quad cores etc

As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like it

I think would be absolute nonsense from Nvidia part, to consider real gamers want cutting edge hardware, without many games to even remotly use that harwdare

If 90% of PC games were looking like Crysis, then the investement in "cutting edge" would be wellcome, now there is only that, Crysis, a bit far from ideal reason to waste money on the best hardare if you ask me, when all other games look subpar comparing to that one

And even Crysis is not fully optimised yet for current quad cores etc

As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like it

saolin323

You said in an earlier post that you had a quad core :P

Anyway your opinion is highly valued, as much if not more than even Wok7's

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="clone01"]

yeah, i wasn't knocking people who want to build one, but a few posters on SW who shall remain nameless make it out to be as easy as tying your shoe, which is just not the case.

mattbbpl

While it's not as easy as tying your shoes, it's as easy as putting together a lego set. Except, there are less pieces, and everything only fits in one way. Heck, everything is color coded even. I understand that some people can feel intimidated by the assumption that PCs are hard to build, but I assure you... anyone with a Middle School education can do it.

I actually built my first machine in 8th grade - and that was a while ago before Windows installed all the drivers for you automatically and patched itself to the latest and greatest version.

It really is so easy now that anyone can do it. I've put together IKEA furniture that was more complicated than building a computer.

It's not the putting it together part that is the hardest part, it's the picking the right parts that causes most people trouble. Whenever I piece together a rig it always takes me awhile to make sure I am getting all the right balance of parts etc, and that all specs are matching.

Even if you are on top of things and reading reviews on the latest hardware, there is just so much to consider that it still takes awhile once you sit down and actually start selecting hardware.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

I think would be absolute nonsense from Nvidia part, to consider real gamers want cutting edge hardware, without many games to even remotly use that harwdare

If 90% of PC games were looking like Crysis, then the investement in "cutting edge" would be wellcome, now there is only that, Crysis, a bit far from ideal reason to waste money on the best hardare if you ask me, when all other games look subpar comparing to that one

And even Crysis is not fully optimised yet for current quad cores etc

As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like it

tenaka2

You said in an earlier post that you had a quad core :P

Anyway your opinion is highly valued, as much if not more than even Wok7's

I have a quad core, and believe me, that did not make Witcher any bit less HORRIBLE or last gen in graphics, that is my point

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="clone01"]

yeah, i wasn't knocking people who want to build one, but a few posters on SW who shall remain nameless make it out to be as easy as tying your shoe, which is just not the case.

Bgrngod

While it's not as easy as tying your shoes, it's as easy as putting together a lego set. Except, there are less pieces, and everything only fits in one way. Heck, everything is color coded even. I understand that some people can feel intimidated by the assumption that PCs are hard to build, but I assure you... anyone with a Middle School education can do it.

I actually built my first machine in 8th grade - and that was a while ago before Windows installed all the drivers for you automatically and patched itself to the latest and greatest version.

It really is so easy now that anyone can do it. I've put together IKEA furniture that was more complicated than building a computer.

It's not the putting it together part that is the hardest part, it's the picking the right parts that causes most people trouble. Whenever I piece together a rig it always takes me awhile to make sure I am getting all the right balance of parts etc, and that all specs are matching.

Even if you are on top of things and reading reviews on the latest hardware, there is just so much to consider that it still takes awhile once you sit down and actually start selecting hardware.

I'm pretty tech-savvy, so sometimes I take that kind of stuff for granted. Point taken.

[QUOTE="clone01"]

yeah, i wasn't knocking people who want to build one, but a few posters on SW who shall remain nameless make it out to be as easy as tying your shoe, which is just not the case.

rimnet00

While it's not as easy as tying your shoes, it's as easy as putting together a lego set. Except, there are less pieces, and everything only fits in one way. Heck, everything is color coded even. I understand that some people can feel intimidated by the assumption that PCs are hard to build, but I assure you... anyone with a Middle School education can do it.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]But I like JRPG's and Platformers.toxicmog

FF7 and 9 were on the PC :P

But what about 10 and 12? Thing is, the PC isn't a big market in Japan (it's actually consoles and cell phones there), so PC development isn't a top priority with Japanese developers.

That said, the PC is king in many other markets, such as Europe and the rest of Asia. And though PC isn't king in North America, it ain't last place, either. It holds it own against just about any other gamin platform on the market.

As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like itsaolin323

[QUOTE="toxicmog"]

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]But I like JRPG's and Platformers.HuusAsking

FF7 and 9 were on the PC :P

But what about 10 and 12? Thing is, the PC isn't a big market in Japan (it's actually consoles and cell phones there), so PC development isn't a top priority with Japanese developers.

That said, the PC is king in many other markets, such as Europe and the rest of Asia. And though PC isn't king in North America, it ain't last place, either. It holds it own against just about any other gamin platform on the market.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like itVandalvideo

Now if only that *deleted* Q9450 would show up...

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="saolin323"]As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like itHuusAsking

Now if only that *deleted* Q9450 would show up...

Having a raid setup isn't worth the significant increase in cost. Even with the minimal increase, its still way too much. This is the thing that I don't understand about many people. Why on earth are they spending exhorbant ammounts of money for a negligble increase in performance? I'm able to get a performance equal to consoles for extremely cheap.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Having a raid setup isn't worth the significant increase in cost. Even with the minimal increase, its still way too much. This is the thing that I don't understand about many people. Why on earth are they spending exhorbant ammounts of money for a negligble increase in performance? I'm able to get a performance equal to consoles for extremely cheap.HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="toxicmog"]

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]But I like JRPG's and Platformers.Vandalvideo

FF7 and 9 were on the PC :P

But what about 10 and 12? Thing is, the PC isn't a big market in Japan (it's actually consoles and cell phones there), so PC development isn't a top priority with Japanese developers.

That said, the PC is king in many other markets, such as Europe and the rest of Asia. And though PC isn't king in North America, it ain't last place, either. It holds it own against just about any other gamin platform on the market.

]How the *deleted* did you do it? I couldn't do it without a retro rig with a Voodoo3 installed. And as for PC games in Japan, are we talking mainstream games or...games meant for private consumption, if you get my drift (the market for...private...PC games is big, I'll admit)?HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Having a raid setup isn't worth the significant increase in cost. Even with the minimal increase, its still way too much. This is the thing that I don't understand about many people. Why on earth are they spending exhorbant ammounts of money for a negligble increase in performance? I'm able to get a performance equal to consoles for extremely cheap.Vandalvideo

PS. I need the space. The main reason I'm going quad is because I plan to do multimedia work--space-hungry and MT-friendly. But since you mention it doesn't make for that good a time, I'll probably go RAID 0 instead.

I just bought two 320s to go with the 320 I already have. They were $75 a piecePS. I need the space. The main reason I'm going quad is because I plan to do multimedia work--space-hungry and MT-friendly. But since you mention it doesn't make for that good a time, I'll probably go RAID 0 instead. HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]]How the *deleted* did you do it? I couldn't do it without a retro rig with a Voodoo3 installed. And as for PC games in Japan, are we talking mainstream games or...games meant for private consumption, if you get my drift (the market for...private...PC games is big, I'll admit)?Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]]How the *deleted* did you do it? I couldn't do it without a retro rig with a Voodoo3 installed. And as for PC games in Japan, are we talking mainstream games or...games meant for private consumption, if you get my drift (the market for...private...PC games is big, I'll admit)?HuusAsking

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]]How the *deleted* did you do it? I couldn't do it without a retro rig with a Voodoo3 installed. And as for PC games in Japan, are we talking mainstream games or...games meant for private consumption, if you get my drift (the market for...private...PC games is big, I'll admit)?Vandalvideo

you go Nvidia!

I gotta show this to some of my console gamer friends who think CoD4 looks better on the PS3 than on PC

you go Nvidia!

I gotta show this to some of my console gamer friends who think CoD4 looks better on the PS3 than on PC

renger6002

Show em whats up

Nvidia,

Please stop telling me things I've known for about a decade.Now, clam up, and get to releasing new drivers.

Verge_6

this post.

this one.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

I think would be absolute nonsense from Nvidia part, to consider real gamers want cutting edge hardware, without many games to even remotly use that harwdare

If 90% of PC games were looking like Crysis, then the investement in "cutting edge" would be wellcome, now there is only that, Crysis, a bit far from ideal reason to waste money on the best hardare if you ask me, when all other games look subpar comparing to that one

And even Crysis is not fully optimised yet for current quad cores etc

As i see it PC is a total huge waste of money and time, i will gladly wait for xbox720, and not upgrade, if the best that appears in years to come remains Crysis, frankly i have not sen a single coming game on PC that looks like it

tenaka2

You said in an earlier post that you had a quad core :P

Anyway your opinion is highly valued, as much if not more than even Wok7's

I dunno wok7 is starting to edge him out on overall opinion value.