Nvidia's cloud research

http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/xbox-cloud-gimmick-nvidia-proving-buzzword/

http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/papers/CloudLight13/CloudLightTechReport13.mp4

Ever since Microsoft revealed the Xbox Live Cloud, many downplayed the technology as a gimmick. There seems to be a line in the sand and an ongoing argument as to what is, and what isnt, possible with the cloud. From a common sense standpoint, there are a lot of applications that seem like they would make good use of cloud computing. Things like matchmaking, stat-tracking, and other information intensive portions of games could definitely benefit from a low cost and efficient constant connection to the internet. But the portion of the argument that has most people disagreeing resides in the realm of graphics, and improving the power of hardware through the cloud. Sonys lead architect on the PlayStation 4 recently came out and explained that the cloud isnt necessarily the best place to boost graphics. Mark Cerny said in a recent interview that there are things that work well in the cloud, and there are things that dont. But that doesnt mean that others arent trying to get these things to work better. And by things, we mean offloading some elements of games graphics to the cloud, and reserving computational power on the hardware itself. One such company is Nvidia, which is working on the Cloudlight System. Detailed in a new research paper out of Williams College (thanks NeoGaf), the Cloudlight system is used for computing indirect lighting in the Cloud to support real-time rendering for interactive 3D applications on a users local device. The developers working on the project explore some of the tradeoffs that working with the cloud actually has, but one thing to garner from this new research, is that it is indeed possible to improve graphics through the cloud, it just might not be the most the efficient way to do things right now. But with the rate that technology increases, we could very well see the cloud become more efficient in the ten years that next-gen consoles are projected to stick around, and most certainly after that. While we might not see better graphics on Xbox One launch titles because of the Xbox Live Cloud, as technology gets better and more efficient it most certainly could happen in the future. For now, well have to keep an eye on how these researchers and developers continue to learn about using this technology. From the sounds of it, the Xbox One cloud might not be so much of a buzzword as it is ahead of its time by a few years.

lock if old.

Edit: watch the video. it absolutely proves the cloud is real.

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

FoxbatAlpha

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Technology is a gimmick? People without a good Internet connection shouldn't have access to anything cutting edge. FoxbatAlpha

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

Should that hold back progress. Area's with bad or no connectivity need to be updated. Municipalities need to get individuals connected or at least give them an option to connect the internet. That is not technology companies responsibility.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Technology is a gimmick? People without a good Internet connection shouldn't have access to anything cutting edge. GravityX

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

Should that hold back progress. Area's with bad or no connectivity need to be updated. Municipalities need to get individuals connected or at least give them an option to connect the internet. That is not technology companies responsibility.

Using common sense is not always a companies strong point, look at AMD...

Look at Wii-U...

I can go on...

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

 

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

 

 

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

AMD655

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

FoxbatAlpha

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Yes, I didn't feel sad for people that wanted a X1 but didn't have a Internet connection (pre DRM reversal). Why should we let people who live in a cave dictate the finer things gaming?FoxbatAlpha

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

LOL...Murica.. says a lot.

Looking foward to this awesome technology.

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

AMD655

LOL...Murica.. says a lot.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] That's the way America does it, that's the way dad did it, and its worked pretty well so far. Tony Stark.AD216

LOL...Murica.. says a lot.

IQ..

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

LOL...Murica.. says a lot.

AMD655

IQ..

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="AD216"] THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!! AD216

IQ..

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

I know, it shows by a country mile :)

[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

IQ..

 

http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/

AMD655

I know, it shows by a country mile :)

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="AD216"] lmao i didnt say we were the smartest country or most intellectual. AD216

I know, it shows by a country mile :)

Military?

You start wars that you cannot finish, Iraq is one great example.

-Ex military myself.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Yes, I didn't feel sad for people that wanted a X1 but didn't have a Internet connection (pre DRM reversal). Why should we let people who live in a cave dictate the finer things gaming?FoxbatAlpha

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Yes, I didn't feel sad for people that wanted a X1 but didn't have a Internet connection (pre DRM reversal). Why should we let people who live in a cave dictate the finer things gaming?FoxbatAlpha

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

trasherhead

since the vast majority of us have  been screaming "the cloud" is this gens "the cell" for the last few months i think we already knew this.

Why do people always forget Sony has their now cloud technology ? *cough*Gaikai*cough*. Gaikai is suppose to power the new PSN infrastructure using NVIDIA GRID; Cloud Gaming, Virtual Applications, Graphics Offloading etc. etc. etc.Nonstop-Madness

I doubt people are dismissing the "Cloud" for what it might be one day, they dismiss it due to what it is now, a huge factor in what it is now, is the average I-net connection.

Sorry to burst bubbles, supply and demand is the name of the game. MS tryied to push something farward, at that it is not all that earthshattering, atleast what has been described, yet the average consumer is howling due to the overall poor net-connection most people have. They DO dictate the industry, nothing anyone can do.

When that is said, what MS proposed takes a connection that not even a fraction of people have, and even with the processing power they have sofar, even latency in information travel plays a part people sem all too keen to dismiss. As of now what MS has claimed can be either dismissed, or simply explained as older less fantastic words, such as "Dedicated servers" and "cloud storage". A few attempts to push the tech farwards have been claimed, but as of now we have not seen it run in a practical everyday scenario, rather what we have seen is secured closed off tests, and proof of showing at best.

If those are what people are referring, I ask to direct attention to Online which DID work like it should, in a controlled envioment, but out there in the open, it failed.

So basicly this comes down to "weve seen this before, weve been promised this before, it did not hold up"

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

Pretty much. 

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?AMD655

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Why do people always forget Sony has their now cloud technology ? *cough*Gaikai*cough*. Gaikai is suppose to power the new PSN infrastructure using NVIDIA GRID; Cloud Gaming, Virtual Applications, Graphics Offloading etc. etc. etc.FoxbatAlpha

[QUOTE="AMD655"]So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?freedomfreak

+100 Karma.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?freedomfreak

??

Are you American too?

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Why do people always forget Sony has their now cloud technology ? *cough*Gaikai*cough*. Gaikai is suppose to power the new PSN infrastructure using NVIDIA GRID; Cloud Gaming, Virtual Applications, Graphics Offloading etc. etc. etc.Nonstop-Madness

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?

 

You sound like a huge jerk right now.

 

 

Nothing new with this generation of so called humans.

AMD655

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="AMD655"]So those who cannot get a good internet connection because of area coverage should miss out?AMD655

??

Are you American too?

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] Yes, I didn't feel sad for people that wanted a X1 but didn't have a Internet connection (pre DRM reversal). Why should we let people who live in a cave dictate the finer things gaming?Kjranu

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

The average is around 18mb down, i have a full SKy+HD package with movie channels etc, you going to say i cannot afford it next?

Why do people always forget Sony has their now cloud technology ? *cough*Gaikai*cough*. Gaikai is suppose to power the new PSN infrastructure using NVIDIA GRID; Cloud Gaming, Virtual Applications, Graphics Offloading etc. etc. etc.Nonstop-Madness

[QUOTE="Kjranu"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

Oh i see, so... a decision should always be correct because it is only appealing to a small amount of people... -____-"

AMD655

The average is around 18mb down, i have a full SKy+HD package with movie channels etc, you going to say i cannot afford it next?

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Kjranu"] Says the butthurt poster who is on dialup. FoxbatAlpha

The average is around 18mb down, i have a full SKy+HD package with movie channels etc, you going to say i cannot afford it next?

:lol: ;)

You're late

http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29428603/nvidia-unveil-cloud-based-indirect-lighting

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

cain006

At a certain point, speed will over come latency due to raw speed.

Not any time soon mind.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

At a certain point, speed will over come latency due to raw speed.

Not any time soon mind.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

As a PC gamer, THIS IS a gimmik.

 

Good luck to anyone with a normal internet connection.

 

You gonna need 10x the speed to not hit latency issues.

AMD655

At a certain point, speed will over come latency due to raw speed.

Not any time soon mind.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="cain006"]What's the speed have to do with latency?

cain006

At a certain point, speed will over come latency due to raw speed.

Not any time soon mind.

Yes, i am correct.

Once speed hits such a high speed, latency is negated, once the connection is there, latency will be fast over a longer distance due to rapid speed.

Common sense is all you need.

Should that hold back progress. Area's with bad or no connectivity need to be updated. Municipalities need to get individuals connected or at least give them an option to connect the internet. That is not technology companies responsibility.

GravityX

Or perhaps we should own and play the games locally on our own systems, without the need for streaming portions of games because it's profitable to corporations?

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

At a certain point, speed will over come latency due to raw speed.

 

Not any time soon mind.

AMD655

Yes, i am correct.

Once speed hits such a high speed, latency is negated, once the connection is there, latency will be fast over a longer distance due to rapid speed.

Common sense is all you need.

This seems like a great way to use cloud computing because lighting you won't really notice if it lags a bit.

XBOX WON is the future! 

So sick of hearing the word "cloud". If I could eliminate one word from the English language, that would certainly be it right now...