Obama is a Ps3 Fanboy

As a PS3 owner, I'm ashamed to admit that my politically ideological fellows tend to side with the opposing console. Most of the PS3 crowd tends to be disappointingly liberal. I feel so alone.

Pariah-

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] he fired the CEO from a publicly traded company GM, so⋅cial⋅ism   /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA Use socialism in a Sentence –noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. 2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory. 3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles. when the government messes with free trade it is a socialist action, when when makes socialist decisions they are a socialist

surrealnumber5

By that logic Bush was also socialist for the bailout last Sept. You people really need to read some history.

You are one of the few people that actually know what you are talking about on this subject.

The housing crisis was caused by legislature passed by Bill Clinton in 1999 which forced banks to take hi risk loans. When president Bush tried to present this mess to congress in 2004 so that the problem could be solved before it got worse every democrat congressman started accussing Bush of hating poor people. Once again in 2005 pres Bush tried to present the already starting to get worse situation to congress but once again the dems in congress bashed Bush for it so Bush backed off.

The current economic crisis was causedby the banks taking on hi-risk loans. Once people who couldn't afford their homes started losing them it caused a huge slow down in the economy which snowballed into the mess we have now. Banks were stuck with overpriced house after over priced house while the new home market couldn't sell new homes. Builders stopped building. Masons, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, drywallers, window installers, insulation installers, A/C installers,concrete and steal rod busters all found themselves without jobs. President Bush found himself in a mess caused by government intervention. Banks were all about to go bankrupt which would then in turn cause another huge problem, buisnesses that required buisness loans to run would all be in trouble. Although Iam against the bailout of companies I do believe that since it was government intervention that caused the banking crisis that the government owed the banks these bailouts.

I wish I caught his speech to the NAAACP :(

And like I thought this thread turned into an OT "Obama is a socialist" thread :roll:

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

[QUOTE="evilross"]

Obama is a fascist.

He can go to hell for all I care. Only bad thing is I have two kids that have to grow up with this socialist utopia crap.

Rza_rectah

Yes a guy who is trying to bankrupt the U.S., raise taxes on everything from death benefits to charitable contributions is better than a president who freed a whole nation from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein :roll:.

[QUOTE="StealthKnife"]well since this entire thread is a joke, [QUOTE="navyguy21"]Id say the mere fact he NAMED xbox says that the brand name is growing. Last gen, we only saw Playstation in movies, commercials, tv shows, and spoken of by older people, now its Xbox. So maybe the title should read "WTF happed to the playstation brand" :P I kid, i kid :Pnavyguy21

All that supply-side BS about how greedy corperations should run the country is typical Republican madness. Every one knows that the owning class creates jobs for all the peons. But in a consumer based economy if you have a wages and tax structures set to ONLY benefit the owning class and crushes the "weak pethetic" consumer class, then guess what, nobody can afford to buy anything anymore. That means NOBODY is making money. Lol as if anyone is still listening to you nuts, you're the same people who gave us 8 years of Bush and tried to make Sarah Palin our next president. Yuck!

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Syn_Valence"] This is why the 360 is selling so well in America..................with thinking like this buying a system that you know is going to break on you must seem like pure brilliance

EG101

Yes a guy who is trying to bankrupt the U.S., raise taxes on everything from death benefits to charitable contributions is better than a president who freed a whole nation from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein :roll:.

[QUOTE="EG101"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] low blow, hes better then bush though thats for damn sure. Wii_Gamer_277

Yes a guy who is trying to bankrupt the U.S., raise taxes on everything from death benefits to charitable contributions is better than a president who freed a whole nation from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein :roll:.

God you really

think Obama is tying to bankrupt the US???

And lol at trying to save iraq and the world from Saddam :lol:

Now the soilders, they are fighting for the right reasons, but Bush went there becuase they had an excuse to get in on cheaper oil.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] socialist, not a fascistsurrealnumber5

God It's happening all over again. I left a forum because I couldn't understand politics talk. WHY do you bring this up in my sanctuary???

Anyway I like Obama because of higher taxes on rich and cuts on poor, better immigration polices, and having an open mind on abortion and gay marriage. Most republicans still have a conservative mindset on things. I come from a single parent home so any relief money wise is good and my mother is also an illegal immigrant. Because of that i cannot support most republicans. After all the people (considered to be by Americans) at the bottom of the ladder (immigrants and low income families) keep this nation together and stable.

Yes I live in America and am American....

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] socialist, not a fascistsurrealnumber5

And socialism is bad because...

what if he was right though lol the xbox is whats causing this whole economic crisis right now

As a PS3 owner, I'm ashamed to admit that my politically ideological fellows tend to side with the opposing console. Most of the PS3 crowd tends to be disappointingly liberal. I feel so alone.

Pariah-

I'm with you dude

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Syn_Valence"] This is why the 360 is selling so well in America..................with thinking like this buying a system that you know is going to break on you must seem like pure brilliance

EG101

Yes a guy who is trying toclean up the mess that was left for him from the guy who had eight years to make it, raise taxes on everything from death benefits to charitable contributions is better than a president who invaded Iraq for the oil while ignoring North Korea and Iran, did nothing when Hurricane Katrina hit, and generally dragged the US' global reputation down into the gutter.

Fixed your comment, there, Glen Beck.

[QUOTE="EG101"]

Yes a guy who is trying toclean up the mess that was left for him from the guy who had eight years to make it, raise taxes on everything from death benefits to charitable contributions is better than a president who invaded Iraq for the oil while ignoring North Korea and Iran, did nothing when Hurricane Katrina hit, and generally dragged the US' global reputation down into the gutter.

svetzenlether

Fixed your comment, there, Glen Beck.

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Wow, why hasnt this thread been locked yet?

Pariah-

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] socialist, not a fascisthakanakumono

Actually because he isn't war mongering he isn't necessarily a full on Fascist. But he does have a lot of Fascistic political beliefs.

... His statement means that it doesn't matter how big or small a government is as long as it functions properly. Meaning that expanding or shrinking government isn't going to solve anything. The only thing that can solve problems is a government that is competent.

Do you even know what Fascism is?

This thread deserves a lock and a facepalm.

ok, I thought it was pretty funny,

This thread deserves a lock and a facepalm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw5_2jBXBj0

its true

StealthKnife

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"] No, he told the guy he is done and he stepped down... I dont need a lecture on socialism or how its going to annihilate America... At least Obama is taking a proactive stance on his job...as opposed to the last guy. You, know the one that got us into this mess...

wolverine4262

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] with the bailout money the GOV retained a vested interest in GMChristopper

Call me racist, but I found this hilarious.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"] actually he is more fascistic then socialist. He is nationalizing a lot of industry, his speeches are also very fascistic. there was a quote from his inauguration that was like "It's not if government is too big or too small, it's if it works" which means he'll do anything to get a government to work and he is expanding government A LOT.

Actually because he isn't war mongering he isn't necessarily a full on Fascist. But he does have a lot of Fascistic political beliefs.

CruxisXIII

... His statement means that it doesn't matter how big or small a government is as long as it functions properly. Meaning that expanding or shrinking government isn't going to solve anything. The only thing that can solve problems is a government that is competent.

Do you even know what Fascism is?

I'm not going to respond to Pariah, because he doesn't understand the relation between businesses and human lives nor what I was getting at but I will respond to you.

No, it's not fascism. It's socialism, but it isn't fascism. Whatever it is, it's the right thing to do. Businesses should be forced to cooperate by the government. But they shouldn't all be owned by the government because that's one step towards totalitarianism (this is probably what you're thinking of) although fascism requires other factors to take play before we take part in it.

Clearly, Obama does not intend to OWN all of the business in the US. Nor will government intervention now last forever. The idea is that they government will work with these companies until they can get off their feet.

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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]no, you are both wrong. He is African American...I know that can get confusing though.... Seriously, he is a democrat plain and simple...svetzenlether

And socialism is bad because...

Don't you know? Any aspects of socialism are pure evil!

I don't think conservatives really think that he's trying to turn this country into a "fascist," "socialist," or "communist" country (well, maybe the ones who are told what to think by talk radio). I think they're trying desperately trying to smear Obama after such an embarassment of a president the 8 years prior to him.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="evilross"]

Obama is a fascist.

He can go to hell for all I care. Only bad thing is I have two kids that have to grow up with this socialist utopia crap.

wolverine4262

he had one white and one black parent. So why is he considered african american? isnt he just as white as he is black going by his genetics?

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

... His statement means that it doesn't matter how big or small a government is as long as it functions properly. Meaning that expanding or shrinking government isn't going to solve anything. The only thing that can solve problems is a government that is competent.

Do you even know what Fascism is?

hakanakumono

I'm not going to respond to Pariah, because he doesn't understand the relation between businesses and human lives nor what I was getting at but I will respond to you.

No, it's not fascism. It's socialism, but it isn't fascism. Whatever it is, it's the right thing to do. Businesses should be forced to cooperate by the government. But they shouldn't all be owned by the government because that's one step towards totalitarianism (this is probably what you're thinking of) although fascism requires other factors to take play before we take part in it.

Clearly, Obama does not intend to OWN all of the business in the US. Nor will government intervention now last forever. The idea is that they government will work with these companies until they can get off their feet.

what gives the government the right to tell others how to run their own business?? my goodness, thats not even how this country was founded. such a dumb statement