Oblivion still best game this generation so far

i used to hate rpg's but Oblivion blew my mind, and is the only game that didnt disappoint me this generation. This generation has been full of disappointments thus far. For example, Assassin's Creed, was good but to repetitive, most others games were good but way to short (Heavenly Sword, Gears of War. etc.), some games were flat out garbage (Haze, Lair, etc) and some games didnt have the wow factor they had in there previous titles (GTA). Some many games are coming out pretty soon, all of them have the hype but will they deliver? Looking forward to MGS4 and NG2 for next month, and hopefully they will justify my purchases.

What do you guys think?

This my Opinion of course

Hell no.flowdee79

Hell no.flowdee79

Oblivion isn't an RPG.

Oblivion is hack and slash adventure with pseudo-RPG elements.

In summary, Oblivion is among the most overrated games in a long time.

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]Hell no.liquidsnake1987

Ok! OK! sorry. I thought Oblivion was phenomenal at first too, but once you play the game you see the various flaws, boring repetitive dungeons, and the level scaling. Its also pretty shallow and behind the great graphics there isn't much there. I admire the presentation of missions - makes them seem varied when they are pretty much identical in their premise (killing). I haven't played it in ages so I can't go into more detail.

Nope I found Oblivion to be highly boring and repetative.Dahaka-UK

QFT. The only game I ever liked that Bethesda made was Redguard. Needless to say, when they took over the Fallout franchise, you can guess what I was thinking how they would effect a once good PRG series.

I had trouble enjoying Oblivion at first but the more i played it the more i enjoyed it, now i really love it.

It's one of those games you either love or you dont at all.

It's as much a rpg as any other rpg if not even more so in alot of aspects.

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]Hell no.flowdee79

Ok! OK! sorry. I thought Oblivion was phenomenal at first too, but once you play the game you see the various flaws, boring repetitive dungeons, and the level scaling. Its also pretty shallow and behind the great graphics there isn't much there. I admire the presentation of missions - makes them seem varied when they are pretty much identical in their premise (killing). I haven't played it in ages so I can't go into more detail.

Oblivion is amazing, but it does get old it's true. Keep the word Shallow out of Oblivion, it's GTA 4 that deserves the Shallow Crown.

I had trouble enjoying Oblivion at first but the more i played it the more i enjoyed it, now i really love it.

It's one of those games you either love or you dont at all.

It's as much a rpg as any other rpg if not even more so in alot of aspects.

_ADIVA_

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]Hell no.Mau-Justice

Ok! OK! sorry. I thought Oblivion was phenomenal at first too, but once you play the game you see the various flaws, boring repetitive dungeons, and the level scaling. Its also pretty shallow and behind the great graphics there isn't much there. I admire the presentation of missions - makes them seem varied when they are pretty much identical in their premise (killing). I haven't played it in ages so I can't go into more detail.

Oblivion is amazing, but it does get old it's true. Keep the word Shallow out of Oblivion, it's GTA 4 that deserves the Shallow Crown.

But GTA IV is an action game (or at least I think) whereas Oblivion is a RPG. For an action game GTA IV packs a lot of content and replay value, Oblivion has a pretty linear story BUT i still think its a great game.

Oblivion isn't an RPG.

Oblivion is hack and slash adventure with pseudo-RPG elements.

In summary, Oblivion is among the most overrated games in a long time.

Thompsonwhore

Yes! Pretty graphics, lackluster gameplay with little to no rpg mechanics. Morrowind was actually a lot better than Oblivion imo.

i used to hate rpg's but Oblivion blew my mind, and is the only game that didnt disappoint me this generation. This generation has been full of disappointments thus far. For example, Assassin's Creed, was good but to repetitive, most others games were good but way to short (Heavenly Sword, Gears of War. etc.), some games were flat out garbage (Haze, Lair, etc) and some games didnt have the wow factor they had in there previous titles (GTA). Some many games are coming out pretty soon, all of them have the hype but will they deliver? Looking forward to MGS4 and NG2 for next month, and hopefully they will justify my purchases.

What do you guys think?

This my Opinion of course

liquidsnake1987

fair enough that's your opinion but no, Zelda TP the launch title was better than it.

[QUOTE="_ADIVA_"]

I had trouble enjoying Oblivion at first but the more i played it the more i enjoyed it, now i really love it.

It's one of those games you either love or you dont at all.

It's as much a rpg as any other rpg if not even more so in alot of aspects.

RobbieH1234

Mainly because you actually are the person you are playing instead of just controlling some. The more you get into the role the more rewarding the game is.

i used to hate rpg's but Oblivion blew my mind, and is the only game that didnt disappoint me this generation. This generation has been full of disappointments thus far. For example, Assassin's Creed, was good but to repetitive, most others games were good but way to short (Heavenly Sword, Gears of War. etc.), some games were flat out garbage (Haze, Lair, etc) and some games didnt have the wow factor they had in there previous titles (GTA). Some many games are coming out pretty soon, all of them have the hype but will they deliver? Looking forward to MGS4 and NG2 for next month, and hopefully they will justify my purchases.

What do you guys think?

This my Opinion of course

liquidsnake1987

fair enough that's your opinion but no, Zelda TP the launch title was better than it.

Bah, okay, ready?

Negatives:

-The main quest was one short cliche

-The weapons/armor made almost no difference, since enemies levelled with you

-The dungeons were almost all identical, some with a slight change in colour

-The steath bonuses were overpowered, meaning you could kill even the best enemy with a couple shots

-The good RPG aspects from Morrowind were removed

-The guilds made no sense, as you could be a bloodthirsty swordsman murder...who joins the mage guild

-There was absolutely no consiquence to your actions, especially with the theives guild there (not saying why that mattered, if you've played the game, you'll know)

-There was no character building, since your character was given no real identity, and you could join every guild, no matter what

-The voice acting was TERMINAL, people changed voices in mid-conversation depending on what you asked, the old beggar lady suddenly sounded like a bleedin blue blood princess if you asked certain questions, then went right back to old lady, this was annoying because it would happen in mission critical conversations quite often

-The difficulty level was a joke, if you figured out the way with each type of character, nothing could touch you

-The guild rewards for your 20+ hours of work were often just awful, one guild (not saying which), had a reward that made guards attack you ad-nausium...wunderbar

-Levelling and character growth was inconsiquential, it gave you no advantage, enemies levelled with you

-But if you didn't level, you'd face an onslaught of nothing but weak weak enemies...good times

Positives:

-Pick the wrong combination (like a fighting style as a main style) and you level all screwed up, and end up as a high level with weak stats, making the game *slightly* harder

-You actually have to do things to level them up

-Lots to do

-The dark brotherhood flat out rules

-The ending FMV, okay, not "the end" of the game, the end of the main quest's video is awesome, you'll see.

That is all.

So, those are my reasons why it's not the best game this generation.

Hell no.flowdee79

yap pretty much this

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]Hell no.flowdee79

Ok! OK! sorry. I thought Oblivion was phenomenal at first too, but once you play the game you see the various flaws, boring repetitive dungeons, and the level scaling. Its also pretty shallow and behind the great graphics there isn't much there. I admire the presentation of missions - makes them seem varied when they are pretty much identical in their premise (killing). I haven't played it in ages so I can't go into more detail.

The level scaling really put me off the game.

The Assassins guild was the best part of the game.

Hell no.flowdee79

these were the exact two words that came to my mind when i read the title

Morrow Wind put Oblivion to shame... I mean really, Oblivion was so limited in scope and the whole "everything adjusts to your level" crap made the game so pointless, it made leveling up so pointless. Redo Morrow Wind for current generation please.

Oh yea Oblivion was small as hell, like the size of my two bedroom apartment small.

...Andrew_Xavier

I honestly find it odd that most of the negatives you listed (and not just you, but many people who claim to like Morrowind over Oblivion), were features from Daggerfall, which many ES fanboys tend to think of as the best game in the series. Just make Oblivion even more generic, and about 8000x larger, and you pretty much have an updated version of Daggerfall.

Mainly because you actually are the person you are playing instead of just controlling some. The more you get into the role the more rewarding the game is.

_ADIVA_

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] ...Nytegard

I honestly find it odd that most of the negatives you listed (and not just you, but many people who claim to like Morrowind over Oblivion), were features from Daggerfall, which many ES fanboys tend to think of as the best game in the series. Just make Oblivion even more generic, and about 8000x larger, and you pretty much have an updated version of Daggerfall.

I never played Daggerfall, but, I'm not an ES fanboy, so, who knows.

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"][QUOTE="flowdee79"]Hell no.ejstrup

Ok! OK! sorry. I thought Oblivion was phenomenal at first too, but once you play the game you see the various flaws, boring repetitive dungeons, and the level scaling. Its also pretty shallow and behind the great graphics there isn't much there. I admire the presentation of missions - makes them seem varied when they are pretty much identical in their premise (killing). I haven't played it in ages so I can't go into more detail.

The level scaling really put me off the game.

The Assassins guild was the best part of the game.

Fallout 3 had better not repeat this stupid stuff.

i used to hate rpg's but Oblivion blew my mind, and is the only game that didnt disappoint me this generation. This generation has been full of disappointments thus far. For example, Assassin's Creed, was good but to repetitive, most others games were good but way to short (Heavenly Sword, Gears of War. etc.), some games were flat out garbage (Haze, Lair, etc) and some games didnt have the wow factor they had in there previous titles (GTA). Some many games are coming out pretty soon, all of them have the hype but will they deliver? Looking forward to MGS4 and NG2 for next month, and hopefully they will justify my purchases.

What do you guys think?

This my Opinion of course

liquidsnake1987

I don't think it's the best game of the generation, but you argumented your point very well. My favourite gameof tha generation is Gears of War, but agreed, it's too short.

Mario Galaxy was, for me, the only game I couldn't say "it's good but..." I simply loved it.

Oblivion isn't an RPG.

Oblivion is hack and slash adventure with pseudo-RPG elements.

In summary, Oblivion is among the most overrated games in a long time.

Thompsonwhore

Oblivion was and is an amazing game. Those of you saying that the leveling system is messed up obviously never mastered it. Firelore29

There is no mastering it - it is what it is, a gimmick that prevents the player from achieving what we seek in a game; level up ( do more then required ) and become stronger then the enemy.

That does not happen in Oblivion since the enemy is always, no matter what, is made to be equal the player regardless of how much extra leveling the player does !

Like I said, feels just like a A.I. catch up mode in cheap racing games.

Not cool !

Sounds like someone didn't understand the RPG system. donalbane

If you didn't like Oblivion, I blame YOU, not Bethesda.donalbane

I agree. The terribly written dialogue, repetitive side quests, lack of choices/consequences, copy/paste dungeons, awful Oblivion Gates, bland voice acting, psychic guards, "Radiant" AI, non-killable NPCs, lack of NPCs with personality, level scaling and complete disregard for logic are totally my fault.

EDIT: I'll probably be asked to elaborate on that, so I'll just chuck in the rpgcodex review

Oblivion is one of the best games out there and it is so far my favorite for this gen since I've spent the most time on it.Ilived