Oculus Rift is the true Next Gen

Not a fan of its low res and supposed headache inducing tech

Mcspanky37

waht would be the difference playing on this than playing on monitor?

waht would be the difference playing on this than playing on monitor?

TheShadowLord07

Don't get me wrong, I'm very exicted for the PS4 and maybe the Xbox One once the price drops, but those systems don't really offer anything knew other than improved graphics.

The True Next Gen starts when Oculus Rift is released.  I believe it will change gaming and immerse us to another level not really seen or experienced before.

You'll be part of the game not just looking at your TV screen pressing some buttons.

 Do you guys agree?

id_mew

Yep, I've been singing the Rift's praises ever since I had the chance to try it out a few months ago. It will bring about a revolution in gaming. I have no doubt of that.

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

waht would be the difference playing on this than playing on monitor?

superclocked

no ps4 combined with oculus riftlegalize82

The Rift is only headed to PC. If consoles get it in the future they will still be a less desirable platform for VR. You need a solid 60fps in stereo 3D, which requires a lot of graphical performance. When most next gen games will barely be 30fps (with dips into the low 20s) it simply isn't possible for those games to work right on a console in VR.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

waht would be the difference playing on this than playing on monitor?

TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Hipsters will attempt to claim it's a gimmick for the fact it's a new and updated idea done right.

Practically everyone who has tried it has said it's "da bomb". Even Gaben and John Tarmack.

BeardMaster

practically everyone who has tried it has only done so in small doses, all gimmicks are fun in small doses. The question is if people are gonna want that thing strapped to their face for hours at a time, and im guessing not.

You don't know what you are talking about. Lots of people use it for hours at a time right now. The friend of mine that has the developer unit uses it for up to 6 hours at a time and has no problem with it whatsoever. 

[QUOTE="id_mew"]

Don't get me wrong, I'm very exicted for the PS4 and maybe the Xbox One once the price drops, but those systems don't really offer anything knew other than improved graphics.

The True Next Gen starts when Oculus Rift is released. I believe it will change gaming and immerse us to another level not really seen or experienced before.

You'll be part of the game not just looking at your TV screen pressing some buttons.

Do you guys agree?

Gargus

But without a ps4 or a pc or a system to run on the rift is just an expensive paperweight because it doesnt actually do anything on its own. It has to be plugged into a device.

And yes it is cool but it isnt nextgen anymore than 3d is "next gen". The rift does look mighty cool but all it basically is, is just another way to view a game is all. Just standard definition went to HD, then HD went to 3d and now we have the rift, just another way of viewing the game. It doesnt actually do anything to improve a game, or create a new way to play games.

Besides, I dont want to move my head around to look around in a game. I also dont want to wear a helment to play a game either. Its a cool gimmick, but it goes on the drawer with the power glove, 3d effects, the kinect and uforce as another gimmick that is a good idea on paper.

Then don't use it. Believe me, we won't miss you.

waht would be the difference playing on this than playing on monitor?

TheShadowLord07

Basically, you have two slightly different views for each eye, both with a broad field of view, so apparently it simulates the 3D view we have in real life quite well. There's also head-tracking so that when you turn your head, the point of view turns.

http://www.roadtovr.com/2013/05/26/what-does-it-look-like-in-the-oculus-rift-6090

But without a ps4 or a pc or a system to run on the rift is just an expensive paperweight because it doesnt actually do anything on its own. It has to be plugged into a device.

 

And yes it is cool but it isnt nextgen anymore than 3d is "next gen". The rift does look mighty cool but all it basically is, is just another way to view a game is all. Just standard definition went to HD, then HD went to 3d and now we have the rift, just another way of viewing the game. It doesnt actually do anything to improve a game, or create a new way to play games.

 

Besides, I dont want to move my head around to look around in a game. I also dont want to wear a helment to play a game either. Its a cool gimmick, but it goes on the drawer with the power glove, 3d effects, the kinect and uforce as another gimmick that is a good idea on paper.

Gargus

You wont get a headache because there is no cross talk as both eyes have it's own screen .

I don't have a rift but the Sony HMZ T1 HMD and playing Uncharted 3 is insane, I just finished the part you are dangling from the plane and the feel of hight is incredible .

Also hanging from the chandelier underwater in the ship was amazing,you wont believe the difference it makes, no 3D tv can give you this unless it's well over 200 " .

I'm interested, but i heard that it's still very low res and probably a pain to the eyes. It's a start, though. Maybe a more advanced version of it ends up coming 'for free' with 9th gen consoles.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

nope, not being able to look away from the game would be maddening for me. Cant see my keyboard, cant see my beer... having to remove a headset everytime i want to do one of those things would drive me crazy.

 

Like all gimmicks im sure the rift will be fun in small doses, but its definitely not something i would use on a regular basis.

mane_basic

ok I just got mine a week ago and it is amazing to play with but it has a HUGE adjustment period so far it makes me a little sick but in a sensory overload kind of way. I can't ever make it to the recommended 10min and I haven't have the time to adjust to it yet but when I can play it amazing. Skyrim is a better game with it.. Feel free to ask any questions I will do my best to answer

It does make some people sick since there is a disconnect between what you are seeing and the information that your other sensory organs are sending your brain. I don't seem to have a problem with it. Maybe it's down to the 30 years of playing games I have under my belt and some of the adaptations my brain has had to do. Probably not, though. All I know is that I used it for over an hour the first time I used it and I really had no major symptoms. I am not the kind of person that ever gets motion sickness in real life though either.

The Rift truly is amazing though. The 3D is by far the best I have ever seen and that, combined with the accurate low-latency head tracking, adds up to a most shockingly convincing sense of being in the game world.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very exicted for the PS4 and maybe the Xbox One once the price drops, but those systems don't really offer anything knew other than improved graphics.

The True Next Gen starts when Oculus Rift is released.  I believe it will change gaming and immerse us to another level not really seen or experienced before.

You'll be part of the game not just looking at your TV screen pressing some buttons.

 Do you guys agree?

id_mew

Well, I'll say it's far more exciting than just better graphics, although that's always nice to have as well.

I'm interested, but i heard that it's still very low res and probably a pain to the eyes. It's a start, though. Maybe a more advanced version of it ends up coming 'for free' with 9th gen consoles.

PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I'm interested, but i heard that it's still very low res and probably a pain to the eyes. It's a start, though. Maybe a more advanced version of it ends up coming 'for free' with 9th gen consoles.

superclocked

Ah...that's alot better! I would love to try it.

OR is awesome tech, but I don't think it will come close to replacing the console/PC and monitor/screen set up. It's an enthusiast product that only a small population will purchase and even smaller use on a daily basis. I want it, but I don't think I'm going to come home from a full work day and pop on the OR headset to relax.LordOfPoms

I think it is going to have a much larger impact than you think.

I absolutely see myself relaxing with the Rift (gaming or otherwise); it's very comfortable to wear. I don't think it will replace gaming as we know it, but I have no doubt that it is going to open up a whole new segment to gaming...a whole new way to game.

I'm hoping they will release a rift with oled screens like my HMZ but probably not for  $ 300,- .

How am I supposed to control my game when I'm effectively blindfolded?  When my fingers leave WASD, it's very hard for me to find them (or any other) keys without quickly glancing down.  This will not be possible with the Rift over my eyes, and I am not a professional typist.  Considering how complex the user interface is for the PC, how will this issue be addressed?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I'm interested, but i heard that it's still very low res and probably a pain to the eyes. It's a start, though. Maybe a more advanced version of it ends up coming 'for free' with 9th gen consoles.

superclocked

Oculus has said that the consumer model will be at least 1080p resolution, and possibly higher.

You can see the screen door effect on the current dev unti, which is only 1280 x 800 reslution, but I think the 1080p unit will reach a point of being good enough. There might be some very minor screen door effect, but not enough to bother most people. Later, I'm sure even higher resolution models will be released.

How am I supposed to control my game when I'm effectively blindfolded?  When my fingers leave WASD, it's very hard for me to find them (or any other) keys without quickly glancing down.  This will not be possible with the Rift over my eyes, and I am not a professional typist.  Considering how complex the user interface is for the PC, how will this issue be addressed?

MirkoS77

They are working to solve that issue. One solution would be to mount a small camera on the front of the rift that could feed a video signal of what is in front of you to the screen inside.

I'm not too worried about it. I can use a game pad for most games and I am sure they will come up with something anyway.

Skeptics are usually the easiest to turn once they experience the rift for the first time. Their expectations of VR from past experience (90's vr, virtualboy, 3D...etc) leaves them with very low expectations. I know because I was one of them. But once you actually try them no more explanations are needed...you'll get why this is so hyped up, why this was named best hardware at E3 over PS4, XBone...etc. why every developer/publication that gets there hands on it raves incessantly. What'll go through your mind when you first start using it is all the games this would be great for and all other possible uses. This is no gimmick.vanfanel1car

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"]OR is awesome tech, but I don't think it will come close to replacing the console/PC and monitor/screen set up. It's an enthusiast product that only a small population will purchase and even smaller use on a daily basis. I want it, but I don't think I'm going to come home from a full work day and pop on the OR headset to relax.kalipekona

I think it is going to have a much larger impact than you think.

I absolutely see myself relaxing with the Rift (gaming or otherwise); it's very comfortable to wear. I don't think it will replace gaming as we know it, but I have no doubt that it is going to open up a whole new segment to gaming...a whole new way to game.

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"]OR is awesome tech, but I don't think it will come close to replacing the console/PC and monitor/screen set up. It's an enthusiast product that only a small population will purchase and even smaller use on a daily basis. I want it, but I don't think I'm going to come home from a full work day and pop on the OR headset to relax.LordOfPoms

I think it is going to have a much larger impact than you think.

I absolutely see myself relaxing with the Rift (gaming or otherwise); it's very comfortable to wear. I don't think it will replace gaming as we know it, but I have no doubt that it is going to open up a whole new segment to gaming...a whole new way to game.

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="kalipekona"]

I think it is going to have a much larger impact than you think.

I absolutely see myself relaxing with the Rift (gaming or otherwise); it's very comfortable to wear. I don't think it will replace gaming as we know it, but I have no doubt that it is going to open up a whole new segment to gaming...a whole new way to game.

KungfuKitten

It looks interesting - though my eyes are bad enough as it is.  I hope it does well. 

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] VR goggles aren't anything new. VR Goggles on games that people actually want to play are. That's what's the difference maker. I still don't think it's going to be a relaxing experience, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I'd love to play Battlefield 4 with it, particularly when the building is coming down. It's a gadget for the techie who has everything, and that's perfectly fine.LordOfPoms

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me seeing how that is exactly what is said every time one of these hits the market.

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me.

superclocked

it is going to be easier to just sit down at your pc and play a game and that is what will win out after the initial "gee whiz!" stage.

It'll work but they need to cut down on the headswaying. Let it be optional.

Someone is seriously going to f*ck up ther neck on this thing, lol.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me.

Riverwolf007

it is going to be easier to just sit down at your pc and play a game and that is what will win out after the initial "gee whiz!" stage.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The difference is price, install base, function, and resolution. Traditionally, 3D displays have used a much lower resolution than 1080p, while still costing much, much more. The 1080p+ Oculus Rift will start at $300, and hopefully that will produce a large enough install base large for companies to make their drivers and games work with the device...superclocked

it is going to be easier to just sit down at your pc and play a game and that is what will win out after the initial "gee whiz!" stage.

hell, i hardly even use it for movies anymore.

but it's cool. believe what ever you want to.

you will find out how accurate my prediction is  soon enough.

i want to see it in action

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me.

Riverwolf007

it is going to be easier to just sit down at your pc and play a game and that is what will win out after the initial "gee whiz!" stage.

all i can tell you is i hope you are right and you enjoy it.

after all that is the important thing here.

i just happen to believe they will be sitting in peoples closets gathering dust like the dozens and dozens that have come out before.

It's certainly the most interesting device coming out. 

Hopefully it does well. 

all i can tell you is i hope you are right and you enjoy it.

after all that is the important thing here.

i just happen to believe they will be sitting in peoples closets gathering dust like the dozens and dozens that have come out before.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me.

Riverwolf007

it is going to be easier to just sit down at your pc and play a game and that is what will win out after the initial "gee whiz!" stage.

It's a neat device, would love to try it out.

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"] VR goggles aren't anything new. VR Goggles on games that people actually want to play are. That's what's the difference maker. I still don't think it's going to be a relaxing experience, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I'd love to play Battlefield 4 with it, particularly when the building is coming down. It's a gadget for the techie who has everything, and that's perfectly fine.LordOfPoms

How is that relevant? Nobody is saying that the concept of virtual reality is something new. What we are saying is that the vision and promise of VR has finally been realized. That the technology has finally caught up to the vision.

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me seeing how that is exactly what is said every time one of these hits the market.

Riverwolf007

You're full of it. Most of those HMDs aren't even known about by gamers. None of them had even a fraction of the positive reaction the Rift is getting. None of them comes close to the quality of the VR experience the Rift provides either.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The difference is price, install base, function, and resolution. Traditionally, 3D displays have used a much lower resolution than 1080p, while still costing much, much more. The 1080p+ Oculus Rift will start at $300, and hopefully that will produce a large enough install base large for companies to make their drivers and games work with the device...Heil68

it is going to be easier to just sit down at your pc and play a game and that is what will win out after the initial "gee whiz!" stage.

Haha it's going to be funny to come back and revisit these threads to see how silly some of you were. Trust me, you are speaking from ignorance.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

why would the occulus rift be any different than the others that have come out and been forgotten about as soon as the novelty wears off and people realize wearing a big ass thing on their heads is a huge bummer?

the resounding battle cry of "this time is different!" has become pretty funny to me seeing how that is exactly what is said every time one of these hits the market.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

kalipekona

You're full of it. Most of those HMDs aren't even known about by gamers. None of them had even a fraction of the positive reaction the Rift is getting. None of them comes close to the quality of the VR experience the Rift provides either.

;)

You're full of it. Most of those HMDs aren't even known about by gamers. None of them had even a fraction of the positive reaction the Rift is getting. None of them comes close to the quality of the VR experience the Rift provides either.

kalipekona

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

You're full of it. Most of those HMDs aren't even known about by gamers. None of them had even a fraction of the positive reaction the Rift is getting. None of them comes close to the quality of the VR experience the Rift provides either.

vanfanel1car

i really hope occulus rift is successful and i in no way have anything against it i just think history will hold true and this will be another gimmick that is quickly forgotten about.

in theory it is a super blast of awesomeness, in reality it is yet another thing people will use for a bit then get sick of strapping it to their heads and abandon.

like i said before if you dig it then great. that is the most important thing.