Of Heaven and Earth: Valve versus Guerrilla Games

Which one has done more to gaming as a whole?

Which has innovated more in FPS?

Whose games are more polished, long-lasting, and fun to play?

Which one understands technology better?

You've gotta be kidding me...

This is even a debate?

Half Life 1 has shaped modern FPSs.

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Which one has done more to gaming as a whole? Valve

Which has innovated more in FPS? Valve

Whose games are more polished, long-lasting, and fun to play? Valve

Which one understands technology better? Valve

Ravenchrome

That was easy.

Valve obviously is the heaven part

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This is even a debate?

Ravenchrome

How about crytek vs valve.TheGuardian03

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

This is even a debate?

Ravenchrome

Of all devs, why are you comparing these two? Anyway, obviously the answer to your question I Valve. That is in no way a knock on Guerrilla though, they have become a very good and well respected dev. Valve has done so much more for the gaming industry though. The ridiculous thing is that you know there will be people saying that because they aren't on Valve's level Guerrilla sucks. Which is ridiculous.incuensuocha

ITT we make fun of Guerrilla, lol

How about crytek vs valve.TheGuardian03

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How about crytek vs valve.TheGuardian03

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[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]Of all devs, why are you comparing these two? Anyway, obviously the answer to your question I Valve. That is in no way a knock on Guerrilla though, they have become a very good and well respected dev. Valve has done so much more for the gaming industry though. The ridiculous thing is that you know there will be people saying that because they aren't on Valve's level Guerrilla sucks. Which is ridiculous.Ravenchrome

GG are masters when it comes to tech...

That's about it for GG.

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[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]Of all devs, why are you comparing these two? Anyway, obviously the answer to your question I Valve. That is in no way a knock on Guerrilla though, they have become a very good and well respected dev. Valve has done so much more for the gaming industry though. The ridiculous thing is that you know there will be people saying that because they aren't on Valve's level Guerrilla sucks. Which is ridiculous.incuensuocha

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"][QUOTE="Ravenchrome"] they both have made FPS and nothing else.

Ravenchrome

Is this a serious thread? GG is cool but all they really have is KZ. Why would you ask such a question? Unless you had a nefarious agenda behind it this question is pointless.

I love me some Killzone, but Valve has obviously done more and done better than Guerilla in pretty much every aspect of gaming

TC is obviously intoxicated, as he is comparing a good dev(Valve) to a ugh one(Guerrilla.) Also, if you really wanna spark an arguement, say you think Uncharted is a GoW clone.:roll:

I've been underwhelmed by GG, but they are a modern gaming company. I love valves games but the source engine is dated beyond belief.

Valve just isn't the company they once were. Profit is far and away the most important thing to them at this point but their fans get furious when they are talked about with anything other than reverence. It is an outdated engine powering short good games that run on the vapors of past accomplishments. The games are NOT so good that they make up for the delays, length and clunkiness.

I played Half life in the 90's and half life 2 and it's episodes about 2 years ago... and though I enjoyed it all i thought was "I'll bet this game would have been awesome ten years ago".

I will take L4D over KZ3 any day, but I have to back the company that is hungry and that really WANTS to do something new and special and to make it's mark, as opposed to supporting a company that is more content to rest on it's laurels and fanboys and overpriced monopoly on digital distribution.

why are you comparing GG and valve? GG have just come to gaming while valve have been in gaming for soo long, valve have much more experience then GG and are also bigger. if this guy is serious about the question he is a noob, because all of it is obvious. i dont think he is being serious tho. NWA90s

This is like saying which is heavier, a mouse or a jumbo jet.

This is incredibly obvious... it's valve, of course.

This thread was created for the sole purpose of provoking hardcore Cows. The problem is even Cows can't deny the obvious, that Valve are simply the more accomplished dev. If I created a thread asking who's better between Blizzard and Bungie, what do you think would happen?incuensuocha

Portal alone be better then Killzone, imo.locopatho

This thread was created for the sole purpose of provoking hardcore Cows. The problem is even Cows can't deny the obvious, that Valve are simply the more accomplished dev. If I created a thread asking who's better between Blizzard and Bungie, what do you think would happen?incuensuocha

You're comparing a developer who made one of the most unique FPS series ever to a developer who makes pretty, funtional, but rather typical FPS games.

why are you comparing GG and valve? GG have just come to gaming while valve have been in gaming for soo long, valve have much more experience then GG and are also bigger. if this guy is serious about the question he is a noob, because all of it is obvious. i dont think he is being serious tho. NWA90s

Valve was founded in 1996, GG was founded in 2000. It's not that big of a difference.

[QUOTE="NWA90s"]why are you comparing GG and valve? GG have just come to gaming while valve have been in gaming for soo long, valve have much more experience then GG and are also bigger. if this guy is serious about the question he is a noob, because all of it is obvious. i dont think he is being serious tho. waltefmoney

Valve was founded in 1996, GG was founded in 2000. It's not that big of a difference.

But still, I think the discussion is about which one had more influence, and the obvious answer is Valve.gaming25

Obviously.

[QUOTE="NWA90s"]why are you comparing GG and valve? GG have just come to gaming while valve have been in gaming for soo long, valve have much more experience then GG and are also bigger. if this guy is serious about the question he is a noob, because all of it is obvious. i dont think he is being serious tho. waltefmoney

Valve was founded in 1996, GG was founded in 2000. It's not that big of a difference.

And? Valve debuted 2 years later with a masterpiece that changed the gaming forever while GG debuted in 2004 (4 years after their inception) with abysmal Shellshock: Nam '67?Salt_The_Fries

I know. I'm just saying - using "but Valve is an older studio" as an excuse for GG won't fly.

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[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]Of all devs, why are you comparing these two? Anyway, obviously the answer to your question I Valve. That is in no way a knock on Guerrilla though, they have become a very good and well respected dev. Valve has done so much more for the gaming industry though. The ridiculous thing is that you know there will be people saying that because they aren't on Valve's level Guerrilla sucks. Which is ridiculous.incuensuocha

Erm... Valve

Valve are one of the most liked devs of them all.

And i believe i read somewhere that per employee valve is one of the most profitable companies in the world, beating giants like microsoft.

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This is even a debate?

Ravenchrome

Some people might be upset with the rating beause it was a fantastic game. But and 8.5 is a great score at any rate.

On topic, Is this serious? Valve is way better, they've just been around longer and have proven their ability to create multiple high class ips