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#51 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"]kinda game that makes me happy ive got a big TV and a kick ass sound system (turned up very loud).musicalmac
I have the sound covered, but sadly, all I can muster in the visual department is a 27" boob tube :(

I have no sound syestem and a 27" LCD HDTV. So I really only have the Visual part covered.

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#52 Captain-win
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kinda game that makes me happy ive got a big TV and a kick ass sound system (turned up very loud).doobie1975
Indeed. I have a 52" LCD and a BOSE 3-2-1. The bass really kicks during the boss fight with Berial.

*SWOOSH*...*ROARR*...*BOOOOM* :oops:

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#54 Polaris_choice
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I played both demos they look pretty much identical( anyone who sees those bunk screen shots of the PS3 version needs to know they were done with component cables as most people know thanks to Neogaf) . Both versions look identical though if you are running a HDMI cable with all the settings the PS3 has a little better AA and nicer Motion blur it also feels better on the PS controller but both versions are among the best looking games on the system. It also reminds me alot of the orginal DMC except I hear Dante can switch between all his styles on the fly ingame which is awesome. I think this could easily be the best one and was very impressed.
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#55 istreakforfood
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did anyone else not enjoy the demo?

i didnt like it. i personally like ninja gaiden gameplay over dmc4's demo gameplay. i did think the graphics were good, but i hated how some areas the camera was fix and couldnt rotate it like how it is with the resident evil and onimusha games. i dont see myself getting or playing this game when it comes out.

i thought it was cool how they added the part where you fight those ice monsters until you die. im sure that made a lot of dmc fans happy and are probably going to play that level until the full game comes out.

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#57 the-very-best
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Do you guys think this game will sell well? As well as the past entries? Better?

Just wondering.

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#58 jg4xchamp
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Do you guys think this game will sell well? As well as the past entries? Better?

Just wondering.

the-very-best
No. It will do ok in the US. But the sales will be split on 360 and PS3. 500k tops for 360 version in the US. almost 500 k for PS3 version.

But the japanese sales will suffer because PS3 hasnt sold alot there, and the 360......well its the 360.
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#59 Captain-win
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Do you guys think this game will sell well? As well as the past entries? Better?

Just wondering.

the-very-best
Yep I think it will selly pretty good. More on PS3 I actually believe because for some reason 360 owners have a thing againgst DMC since its a NG2 rival. Same way PS3 owners didnt buy NG: SIGMA in huge amounts [ 500,000 ] because they are more at home with DMC4.
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#60 speedsix
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According to the knowledgable chaps over at Beyond3D, the reason why the PS3 version looks blury is because it can't achieve the same level of AA as the 360 version so blends frames together.

"This kind of temporal AA/blur is a very, very old technique, long before shaders. It's not an extra, it's a compromise: apparently they didn't have the resources to do 2xMSAA in a single 60Hz frame on the PS3, so they just render it raw and jitter the next frame for an amortized approximation.

The thing is, this trick only works for static scenes with a static camera, since it's stretching out the operation over several frames. Otherwise you tend to get a blurred mess.
yes exactly
the temporal AA effect work only with relative static scene (in this case some graphic element can have better AA than X360 version like on my photo) but with move scene they are no AA effect, just persistence effect (persistence is not really a sexy effect)
but without this the PS3 version would have no AA"

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#61 Kritical_Strike
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I loved it, and I was really impressed by the gameplay mechanic that everyone here seems to be neglecting: the sword rev

Just-Reving adds so much to the gameplay and makes it a lot more challanging and addictive. DMC4 is all about style. BTW, has anyone gotten an SSS on the style meter? I just managed to do it on the last fight in the docks :D

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#62 nicenator
Member since 2005 • 1938 Posts

There seems to be a lot of negativity towards this game. I cant wait myself.

Just seen a review on Gamer tv here in the UK, it got 6 out of 10.

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#63 RazMaTaz-1
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[QUOTE="credibilityzero"]

Nooooooo, my thread is locked, I didn't see your sticky. :cry:

Anyways.

So I wanna hear lemmings who didn't play DMC series, what was your impressions of the game that once was a PS exclusive?

Im just curious to know if Capcom gonna be disappointed with lemmings or not.

Soulja_West

DMC was never exclusive. The past DMC games were on the PC.

umm no. DMC3 was only on PC, and flopped miserably

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#64 soullreaver
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the devil may cry series was great exept for devil may cry 2 the only crappy part that has been there in the series. at least that is what they say for me its stil the only part i dind play, wel ok i also dind play 4 and the special edition of 3 anyway i think 4 is great for the rest i cant have an opinion of it right now bui can already tell you its great. And for the person who says there are rumors 4 aint good those people are just noobs and nolifers.

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#65 HAZE-Unit
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Do you guys think this game will sell well? As well as the past entries? Better?

Just wondering.

the-very-best

It will sell well I guess, because this game has the Japanese gamers also interested.

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#66 inertk
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Played the demo with a massive grin on my face, unfortunately on the 360 so I wasn't liking the controls. RB to lock on? Come now, it's horrible.

I loved using Nero a lot too, still getting used to the Sword and it's properties but the arm is awesome. o:

Gonna play the game on PS3 ASAP. I want to use the controller I know will be best for DMC.

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#67 Captain-win
Member since 2008 • 199 Posts
Can't stop playing the demo
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#68 mingo123
Member since 2007 • 9005 Posts
this is lame, demo still not up on uk psn....anyways i hope this game gets at least 8.0 here on GS
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#69 BioShockOwnz
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I was not impressed by this demo to say the least. The visuals were average for this gen and didn't wow me like I expected them to. There are plenty of other games that look better. Now onto the disappointing camera. This has got to be the worst camera ever in a DMC game. It's so annoying and spastic. Also, playing as Nero is complete and utter rubbish. It just isn't fun. You should play as Dante the whole time. Other than these complaints, it's more DMC, which to be frank...is getting quite old. Capcom evolved the RE franchise with RE4 and DMC needs the same treatment. It's about time they get rid of environments that feel so lifeless and static.
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#70 SOedipus  Online
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I thought the demo was way too easy.
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#71 FusionApex
Member since 2006 • 1151 Posts
I thought berial was kinda hard, but I've never played a DMC game before. Also, the reving of nero's sword was a cool mechanic (at least to me).
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#72 waynehead895
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Umm I like this guy much more than I ever liked Dante.
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#73 Puckhog04
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I personally couldn't stand the demo. Thought it was terrible. Just felt repetitive and boring.
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#74 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Member since 2007 • 8992 Posts
Never been a fan of DMC and the demo stilll didnt show me why I should be.
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#75 Captain-win
Member since 2008 • 199 Posts
Devil May Cry 4 gets AAA review!!!!!

From Xboxworld.au

"For fans of the original Devil May Cry, you'll notice this latest entry reverts back to the basics in several ways - in its art direction, satirical humour and the ability to leave you reeling after each battle escalates beyond expectation. Devil May Cry 4 does everything that made the first game a cult ****c and goes beyond; introducing many fresh faces and new ways to approach the exhilarating combat. I would argue that this is the most solid of all of the Devil May Cry games."

"Devil May Cry 4 is everything a hack-and-slash should be and then some. Sadly it falters with repeated level design and a moderately troublesome camera; but in the grand scheme of things, these are only minor flaws. Devil May Cry 4 delivers an experience that is second to none on Xbox 360, so far. Held together by a solid narrative, it makes your blood boil with every fight you encounter. It's a great title, pick it up."

Pros:

  • + gameplay is sublime
  • + decent narrative
  • + Dante's "Arnie-esque" punchlines

Cons:

  • - level repetition
  • - camera angle is a bother

I'm not even getting this for the 360, but as a fan of DMC its always good to see a great review.

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#76 dracula_16
Member since 2005 • 16534 Posts
Am I the only one that enjoyed the demo? it sure seems that way. :(
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#77 Captain-win
Member since 2008 • 199 Posts

Am I the only one that enjoyed the demo? it sure seems that way. :(dracula_16
The ppl who didn't either havent played DMC before or are horrible at it. Anyway look it got AAA^^

This game will be awesome.

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#78 BioShockOwnz
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Devil May Cry 4 gets AAA review!!!!!

From Xboxworld.au

"For fans of the original Devil May Cry, you'll notice this latest entry reverts back to the basics in several ways - in its art direction, satirical humour and the ability to leave you reeling after each battle escalates beyond expectation. Devil May Cry 4 does everything that made the first game a cult ****c and goes beyond; introducing many fresh faces and new ways to approach the exhilarating combat. I would argue that this is the most solid of all of the Devil May Cry games."

"Devil May Cry 4 is everything a hack-and-slash should be and then some. Sadly it falters with repeated level design and a moderately troublesome camera; but in the grand scheme of things, these are only minor flaws. Devil May Cry 4 delivers an experience that is second to none on Xbox 360, so far. Held together by a solid narrative, it makes your blood boil with every fight you encounter. It's a great title, pick it up."

Pros:

  • + gameplay is sublime
  • + decent narrative
  • + Dante's "Arnie-esque" punchlines

Cons:

  • - level repetition
  • - camera angle is a bother

I'm not even getting this for the 360, but as a fan of DMC its always good to see a great review.

Captain-win

Overrated! Level repetition and a shoddy camera are 2 BIG things. 6/10!

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#79 Jecht01
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I was happy to see that the game play is more like the first Devil May Cry instead of the third one. The third one is the worst game in the series. I might actually have to pick it up now.

I own both a 360 and PS3 and I'll be picking it up on PS3. The game just plays and feels better on the PS3 for some reason in my opinion.

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You think DMC3 is the worst one out of the series? :| Try DMC2
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#80 Captain-win
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[QUOTE="Captain-win"] Devil May Cry 4 gets AAA review!!!!!

From Xboxworld.au

"For fans of the original Devil May Cry, you'll notice this latest entry reverts back to the basics in several ways - in its art direction, satirical humour and the ability to leave you reeling after each battle escalates beyond expectation. Devil May Cry 4 does everything that made the first game a cult ****c and goes beyond; introducing many fresh faces and new ways to approach the exhilarating combat. I would argue that this is the most solid of all of the Devil May Cry games."

"Devil May Cry 4 is everything a hack-and-slash should be and then some. Sadly it falters with repeated level design and a moderately troublesome camera; but in the grand scheme of things, these are only minor flaws. Devil May Cry 4 delivers an experience that is second to none on Xbox 360, so far. Held together by a solid narrative, it makes your blood boil with every fight you encounter. It's a great title, pick it up."

Pros:

  • + gameplay is sublime
  • + decent narrative
  • + Dante's "Arnie-esque" punchlines

Cons:

  • - level repetition
  • - camera angle is a bother

I'm not even getting this for the 360, but as a fan of DMC its always good to see a great review.

BioShockOwnz

Overrated! Level repetition and a shoddy camera are 2 BIG things. 6/10!

Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Captain-win"] Devil May Cry 4 gets AAA review!!!!!

From Xboxworld.au

"For fans of the original Devil May Cry, you'll notice this latest entry reverts back to the basics in several ways - in its art direction, satirical humour and the ability to leave you reeling after each battle escalates beyond expectation. Devil May Cry 4 does everything that made the first game a cult ****c and goes beyond; introducing many fresh faces and new ways to approach the exhilarating combat. I would argue that this is the most solid of all of the Devil May Cry games."

"Devil May Cry 4 is everything a hack-and-slash should be and then some. Sadly it falters with repeated level design and a moderately troublesome camera; but in the grand scheme of things, these are only minor flaws. Devil May Cry 4 delivers an experience that is second to none on Xbox 360, so far. Held together by a solid narrative, it makes your blood boil with every fight you encounter. It's a great title, pick it up."

Pros:

  • + gameplay is sublime
  • + decent narrative
  • + Dante's "Arnie-esque" punchlines

Cons:

  • - level repetition
  • - camera angle is a bother

I'm not even getting this for the 360, but as a fan of DMC its always good to see a great review.

Captain-win

Overrated! Level repetition and a shoddy camera are 2 BIG things. 6/10!

Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

I speak the truth.

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#82 Captain-win
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[QUOTE="Captain-win"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Captain-win"] Devil May Cry 4 gets AAA review!!!!!

From Xboxworld.au

"For fans of the original Devil May Cry, you'll notice this latest entry reverts back to the basics in several ways - in its art direction, satirical humour and the ability to leave you reeling after each battle escalates beyond expectation. Devil May Cry 4 does everything that made the first game a cult ****c and goes beyond; introducing many fresh faces and new ways to approach the exhilarating combat. I would argue that this is the most solid of all of the Devil May Cry games."

"Devil May Cry 4 is everything a hack-and-slash should be and then some. Sadly it falters with repeated level design and a moderately troublesome camera; but in the grand scheme of things, these are only minor flaws. Devil May Cry 4 delivers an experience that is second to none on Xbox 360, so far. Held together by a solid narrative, it makes your blood boil with every fight you encounter. It's a great title, pick it up."

Pros:

  • + gameplay is sublime
  • + decent narrative
  • + Dante's "Arnie-esque" punchlines

Cons:

  • - level repetition
  • - camera angle is a bother

I'm not even getting this for the 360, but as a fan of DMC its always good to see a great review.

BioShockOwnz

Overrated! Level repetition and a shoddy camera are 2 BIG things. 6/10!

Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

I speak the truth.

That which you see as the truth through your own perspective which is otherwise upside-down to other people. So no, its not the truth, AT ALL.
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#83 istreakforfood
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Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

Captain-win

how so? you can go first person to look freely or just move around in third person.

from what i got from the dmc4 demo i hated how the camera was fixed in certain areas and there were limitations when you were able to move around your camera view.

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#84 funnymario
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Finally got around to playing the demo today. Really not that impressed.
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#85 Captain-win
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[QUOTE="Captain-win"]

Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

istreakforfood

how so? you can go first person to look freely or just move around in third person.

from what i got from the dmc4 demo i hated how the camera was fixed in certain areas and there were limitations when you were able to move around your camera view.

Have you played NG? lol its camera is pretty horrible aswell. That first person mode is only to stop and look around not for anythign else.
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#86 Dante865
Member since 2005 • 4196 Posts
Bare in mind the demo is about a year old, Using SIXAXIS you can do whatever the hell you want with the camera now.
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#87 inertk
Member since 2007 • 3385 Posts

People had problems with the camera? LOL.

In all 7 of my playthroughs so far, the camera has not been a problem.

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#88 kcm_117
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i just played the demo.....i love it. That boss battle is nuts, i got my ass wooped first 2 times....going back now on 3rd try i should get him. Also, whoever calls this a typical hack and slash obviously has no idea how to string together the moves for insanely cool combos....your probably just spamming the Y button and complaining.

Great Graphics, Great Sound, Fun 2 Play

Verdict: Buying

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#89 Captain-win
Member since 2008 • 199 Posts

i just played the demo.....i love it. That boss battle is nuts, i got my ass wooped first 2 times....going back now on 3rd try i should get him. Also, whoever calls this a typical hack and slash obviously has no idea how to string together the moves for insanely cool combos....your probably just spamming the Y button and complaining.

Great Graphics, Great Sound, Fun 2 Play

Verdict: Buying

kcm_117
lol true. Already have it pre-ordered.
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#90 BioShockOwnz
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People had problems with the camera? LOL.

In all 7 of my playthroughs so far, the camera has not been a problem.

inertk

Good for you, mate. :) It's brought up in reviews for a reason. You're just more tolerable of crap camera's than most of us.

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#91 NuclearFreedom
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well just beat the demo for the hundreth time since i downloaded and my best time remaining is 2 minutes but i still need to practice Instant Revving like that Brea guy on youtube (he is friggin amazing with IR) well off to beat exterminator again only this time with Blue Revolver :)
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#92 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

People had problems with the camera? LOL.

In all 7 of my playthroughs so far, the camera has not been a problem.

BioShockOwnz

Good for you, mate. :) It's brought up in reviews for a reason. You're just more tolerable of crap camera's than most of us.

What exactly makes the camera crap?

Oh and I'm not your mate.

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#93 fanboy999
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In a few parts where the camera shifts it is disorienting and you turn the wrong way. This a problem that goes all the way back to the original Resident Evil. Bad viewing angles and 3Dish static backgrounds should not be a part of today's games as they are in DMC4.
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#94 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="Captain-win"]

Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

Captain-win

how so? you can go first person to look freely or just move around in third person.

from what i got from the dmc4 demo i hated how the camera was fixed in certain areas and there were limitations when you were able to move around your camera view.

Have you played NG? lol its camera is pretty horrible aswell. That first person mode is only to stop and look around not for anythign else.

yes i have played NG. i played all 3 versions of it. no the camera is not bad in NG.

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#95 Captain-win
Member since 2008 • 199 Posts

**NEW**

Official Japan website

Love the music on that site. Anybody know how to get the song?

New vids of Dante using the different **** in the game

New Vids of Dante using the many new weapons in Pandora's box and the Lucifer

New Vids of Nero's Devil Trigger in action :o F'n sweet combo's in the last vid!

Interactive DMC world

Nero in Devil Triger mode:

Dante in Devil Trigger mode:

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#96 Captain-win
Member since 2008 • 199 Posts

yes i have played NG. i played all 3 versions of it. no the camera is not bad in NG.

istreakforfood
I say it is, reviews say it is. You're just more tolerable of it thats all.
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#97 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Captain-win"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Overrated! Level repetition and a shoddy camera are 2 BIG things. 6/10!

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Thanks, I'll take my opinion and there's over some random guy on the internet. NG has a horrible camera too but that didn't affect much.

I speak the truth.



Not to discredit NG, but NG had both of those flaws and it was percieved as a great game here and everywhere else as well.
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#98 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

yes i have played NG. i played all 3 versions of it. no the camera is not bad in NG.

Captain-win

I say it is, reviews say it is. You're just more tolerable of it thats all.

if you are going by gs reviews.

kevin kasavin thought it was slick with how you can move the camera in ngb while kevin vanord thought there were few minor issues in ngs.

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#99 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Captain-win"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

yes i have played NG. i played all 3 versions of it. no the camera is not bad in NG.

istreakforfood

I say it is, reviews say it is. You're just more tolerable of it thats all.

if you are going by gs reviews.

kevin kasavin thought it was slick with how you can move the camera in ngb while kevin vanord thought there were few minor issues in ngs.



That's the one feature NG had over DMC4's camera (at least in the demo), although adjusting the camera should not be something I have to bother with in the first place.

I guess it comes down to which ones story and characters you prefer, or if you prefer strong-single combos or chain-linking combos to effectively kill your enemies.

I like both! DMC4 looks awesome, as does NG2.
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#100 Captain-win
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[QUOTE="Captain-win"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

yes i have played NG. i played all 3 versions of it. no the camera is not bad in NG.

istreakforfood

I say it is, reviews say it is. You're just more tolerable of it thats all.

if you are going by gs reviews.

kevin kasavin thought it was slick with how you can move the camera in ngb while kevin vanord thought there were few minor issues in ngs.

Greg Kasavin?

Anyway the camera in both games are not that great [ NG is more fluid though ] although you can move it in both games. Its not much of a problem really.