Again, my $449 estimatewas before renewed crypto currency hype and added extra 8 GB flash memory.
The total chip memory on X1X is 20 GB i.e. 12 GB GDDR5 + 8 GB flash memory.
8GB of flash memory is super cheap. Like $2-3.
Fast 8 GB flash for readyboost cost higher. A slower flash storage than 1 TB HDD's performance is counterproductive.
Again, I based my estimate with cheapest XBO S/PS4 S's 500 GB HDD not 1 TB HDD (7200 RPM) as standard.
That 8 GB is for readyboost performance increase? Is this confirmed or a guess? I was under the impression that this was extra storage, probably used as a cache for improving loading times. It doesn't need to be super fast. Even if it is, it's not enough to justify a $50 increase.
There are two known usage for the extra 8 GB flash memory.
1. 4K 60 recording may need flash memory performance greater than V class 10 SD write speeds and durable enough to handle multiple re-write counts for the expected life of the console.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
| 30 MB/s | - |  Class 3 (U3) |  Class 30 (V30) | 1080p and 4K video files at 60/120 fps (UHS bus) |
https://www.amazon.com/Promaster-ADVANCED-SDHC-Memory-Card/dp/B06XKG553T/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497322446&sr=1-8&keywords=V30
V30 class 8 GB flash memory with $20 price tag. Whole sale price e.g. $10.
2. Windows Readyboost.
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5400 RPM 500 GB HDD --> 7200 RPM 1 GB HDD increase.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/6/15204864/xbox-scorpio-hardware-specs-cpu-gpu-4k
Component-wise, Scorpio will feature a 2.5-inch 1 TB hard drive that offers a “50 per cent increase in bandwidth,” reports Digital Foundry.
I spec'ed Scorpio in the same pattern as XBO S with it's cheaper 500 GB HDD, but Microsoft quoted $499 price tag with 1 TB HDD 7200 RPM.
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I didn't expect another crypto-currency driven inflation hitting PC GPUs again.
http://wccftech.com/amd-gpu-supply-exhausted-by-cryptocurrency/
https://epsnews.com/2017/05/23/pc-dram-prices-rise-10-q2-after-30-hike-q1/
From https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/how-much-will-xbox-scorpio-cost-its-a-premium-prod-33340328/?page=4
Quoting myself.
"NEO option B" with better CPU has $100 higher price tag over "NEO option A". Scorpio is similar to "NEO option B" spec.
"NEO option B" target price is $499.
Both MS and Sony has the same AMD road maps.
http://www.gamepur.com/news/23460-massive-ps4-neo-leak-gpu-2x-more-powerful-high-clock-speed-55tf-price-499.html
Sony is currently testing two different PS4 Neo models, out of these two only ONE will be selected for consumers. The first PlayStation 4 Neo variant offers a 4.2TF performance and has a Jaguar CPU and internally carries a price tag of $399.
The second variant of PlayStation 4 Neo offers a 5.5TF GPU and comes with a brand new CPU and carries a price tag of $499. Sony planning to release PlayStation 4 Neo either at the end of 2016 or before March 2016. If Sony decides to go with the $499 variant of PlayStation 4 Neo then it will be the first time in over a 10 Years time Sony will went with an External Power Supply.
If you apply X1X's GPU 1172 Mhz clock speed on 36 CU, it yields 5.4 TFLOPS which is very close to NEO Option B. Slightly higher clock speed lands on 5.5 TFLOPS and this NEO Option B box still has mirror 18 CU design for PS4 BC requirement.
X1X is MS's PS4 NEO Option B without mirror 18 CU requirement.
For Vega IP selection
MS went for Vega data transfer bottleneck reduction.
Sony went for Vega NCU.
Full Vega 11 has both NCU and data transfer bottleneck reduction.
Both MS and Sony has been offered two 16 nm FinFET upgrade options for year 2016 and year 2017.
Even at 4k and 60fps in Forza 7 The One X still has 30% more headroom
In a behind closed doors presentation with Microsoft, we were given a statistic that seems particularly impressive. Forza Motorsport 7 content director John Wendl told us that there's a 30 percent surplus on the GPU, even when running the game at 4K resolution and 60 frames per second. That's surprisingly not-close to the Xbox One X's limits.
Oh this is going to be guuud.
Similar to Digital Foundry's Scorpio reveal with Forza static screenshot.
My main concern is AMD's lack of automatic immediate mode render to tile render conversion smart driver.
In this example, traditional immediate mode render is converted into tiling render without the programmer doing anything on Nvidia Paxwell hardware. Hence, I have my doubts with AMD's Vega regardless of Pixel Engine being connected to L2 cache improvements. Without this "smart" driver, game results would be less consistent when compared NVIDIA's solution. Vega's high bandwidth cache (HBC) feature could be a work around for L2 cache spill over.
In summary, you have best cases with tile rendering with 2MB L2 cache and worst case Polaris 10 6 TFLOPS equipped with higher memory bandwidth results and L2 cache is not properly used as a tile render.
Was this mentioned already?
Was this mentioned already?
bad news...
Hey here's an observation!
Where was Kinect in all of this?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sony shit the bed!!! That 1 hour was weak. LMAO
Was this mentioned already?
bad news...
Leaking the price and types of news like AC Origin Dynamic Resolution. The petition to sue this guy is going to be accepted.
Was this mentioned already?
bad news...
Leaking the price and types of news like AC Origin Dynamic Resolution. The petition to sue this guy is going to be accepted.
All hardware has limits and differences are the limit levels.
X1X's GPU 2 MB L2 cache tile rendering needs to be programmed in a tiling method. You have best cases with tile rendering with 2MB L2 cache boost and worst case Polaris 10 6 TFLOPS equipped with higher memory bandwidth results and L2 cache is not properly used as a tile render.
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