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#1 HAZE-Unit
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THEME OF THE THREAD.( open in tab and turn the volume to the max )

So here we go, learn about the game's multiplayer, predict the score and talk about all things Black Ops related...yay :D

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general Information about the game for people who are living under their beds for the past several months.

  • Publisher - Activation.
  • Developer - Treyarch
  • Systems : PS3-Xbox 360-PC-Wii.
  • Release Date : November 9th 2010.
  • Price : 59.99 US dollars.
  • Single player campaign 1 player only.
  • 4 player co-op zombie mode.
  • 2 player splitscreen online multiplayer.
  • 4 player split-screen offline multiplayer.

And now, let's start with the real information.

I'll go straight to the Multiplayer improvements, new features and modes, screw single player for a while :P

Overall Multiplayer improvements.

  • Shotgun is Primary weapon.
  • Maximum Kilstreaks are 11 which discourages camping for your whole life.
  • No ending game Killstreak AKA Tactical Nuke killstreak clone.
  • No quick-scoping for snipers.
  • No stopping power perk.
  • Killstreaks come form kills you get yourself, kills from other killstreaks doesn't count.
  • Killstreaks restart in each new round in game modes like Search and destroy.
  • No death streaks.
  • Emblems do NOT reset with prestige.

PC improvements in Black Ops.

  • Dedicated servers (for custom setups of unranked games, even upping the player count).
  • Mod tools will be released post-launch after major bugs are found and fixed.
  • Global, persistent stats, profiles, and leaderboards.
  • Steam exclusive, the game will use Steam as a framework, this will allow the game to auto update, among other things like Valve Anti-Cheat.
  • No public server files which means less ways for a player to cheat.
  • An improved Server browser.
  • A matchmaking option - click Play Now, and the game will automatically find a server for you.
  • Support for both the /record command and the new Theatre mode.

New features first time appearing and some re-introduced on the Call Of Duty franchise.

Multiplayer Online Split-Screen Support

  • You can connect a second controller and bring a guest online (i.e. "HAZE-unit" & "HAZE-unit(1)").
  • Guests can rank up, earn unlocks, etc – all guest progress goes away once signed out.

Custom Games Editor.

Players will have the ability to structure their games at all new levels of granularity. From variables as simple as Time Limit and Score Limit, or as deep as which weapons, Perks, and gear are available. You want a Pistols Only match? Make one! No longer do custom game modes rely on the "honor system."

Furthermore, any Custom Game you create and configure can be placed in your File Share, for friends and the community to browse, download, and enjoy. You just might create the most addictive new game mode of all time from the comfort of your own living room!

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In-Game Friends List.

integrated a built-in Friends List into the in game user interface. You'll be able to browse Recent Players, Friends, navigate their File Shares, Recent Games, Combat Records – all within this in-game menu system designed to streamline the social process within the game. Sending game invites and joining Friends' games has never been simpler than in Call of Duty: Black Ops.

Regional Matchmaking & Party Privacy.

Call of Duty: Black Ops will support regional matchmaking filters on a global scale. So, no matter where you're at in the world, you will have the ability to specify whether you want to match with players from other geographical regions, or only those local to you. This will make communication and lag a much less intrusive variable on your gameplay experience.

Additionally, given Black Ops will support joining games in progress via an even simpler built-in in-game Friends List interface, we'll allow a Party leader to lock down his lobby to Invite Only, Friends Only, or even Close it altogether if he wants to be in complete control over who enters and exits the Party Lobby.

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Points system.

  • Every time you play, you earn money (COD points)
  • What you used to unlock by level is now for sale — if you can afford it, you can buy it (weapons, equipment)
  • Contracts: time limited challenges that you purchase with COD Points (CP). Categories = Mercenaries, Operations, Specialist. Each is attached to certain play $tyle and in-game achievements.

Theater Mode.

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The Theater Mode allows you to create your own videos using replays as you edit the camera angles, speed, and clips of gameplay together AKA uncharted 2, Halo 3...wtc.

Theater mode trailer.

Customization.

Black Ops customization trailer.

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Expect almost everything to be costumized in Black ops from your weapons, reticle red dot sight, face paint, clothes, camo skins, emblems, killstreaks offering the ultimate customization package in any Call Of Duty to date.

New game modes in Call of Duty: Black Ops.

Gambling: Wager Match – you ante up and put your COD Points on the line and wager on matches. The top three players split the pot.

Wager Match types.

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There are 4 game types for wager matches and all of them are free-for-all game types and they are separated from your standard competitive MP modes.

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1- One in the chamber.

Everyone has only a pistol with one bullet and three lives, if you miss your opponent you are left with a knife only!!

2- Stick and Stones.

You will have crossbows and ballistic knives plus tomahawks.

3- Gun Game.

A series of progressive weapons, from pistol to shotgun to sniper rifle, granted to the player after kills. Get knifed and your gone.

4- Sharpshooter.

Everyone uses the same weapon and unlocks perks per kill. Weapons switch every 30 seconds.

Return of the Zombie mode.

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The zombie mode of World at War will return as a four-player online and two-player split screen co-op mode in which players take the roles of John F.Kennedy, Richard Nixon and Fidel Castro ( and some other dude I don't the name for him ), yup that's right, you will fight hordes of zombies inside the Pentagon with these badass characters.

Dead Ops.

A top down third person shooter version of the famous Zombie mode is being leaked, think about the game Zombie Apocalypse.

Multiplayer Overview trailer.

Ok Im done.

But I'm not! - Wasdie here, just a few quick things to add to this hype thread...

Black Ops Hidden Game! Check it out for yourself!


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#2 psn8214
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Awesome **** thread Haze! I'm personally super stoked for this one! I'm grabbing the PC version day one, and predicting this one will score a 9.5 here. 8)

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#3 mrmusicman247
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9.0. Seal it up and lock it down.
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#4 Silverbond
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Nice thread. :o

With a thread like this, there's no way I could hype this lower than AAA.

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#5 deactivated-5cf0a2e13dbde
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The characters available in the zombie mode is the best idea ever. I got tired of MW2 quick, but the insanity of zombie mode, along with a ton of other improvements set me over the top, and I'll be purchasing day one.
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#6 Giancar
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MEGA AWESOME THREAD :o I don't like the game at all, but I see it scoring a 9.0
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#7 FIipMode
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Nine point Zero.
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#8 klusps
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A solid 9.0.

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#9 ethanradd
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Awesome thread, AAA score, day one purchase, cant wait!

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9.5 - I feel Treyarch has a winner winner chicken dinner on their hands.

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#11 HAZE-Unit
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Thanks guys :D

Im gonna go with 9.5!!

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#12 felipebo
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Great thread :) I'll be getting it on Steam.

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#13 ksko
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dam its cheap in the u.s , over here in New zealand its like100u.s$

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first day buy... they improved so much! How could I say no?

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#15 timmy00
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Great Hype thread! I'm going with AAA! Treyarch is really doing a great job. They seem to be fixing the problems that MW2 had.

Gonna be playing that zombie mode for weeks :D

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#16 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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dam its cheap in the u.s , over here in New zealand its like100u.s$

ksko

Yeah I know. If you are getting it for PC, buy it from D2D (direct to drive). Unlike steam which has regional pricing (so for us it's 89.99USD, which is around 120NZD), d2d just has the same list price of 59.99 USD or around 80NZD. That's where I'm getting it from (though I'm having problems with my credit card :evil: ).

BTW OP you forgot Dead Ops mode, though I guess it hasn't been actually confirmed yet.

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I think it will get a 9.5 and I will be buying this game day one for sure!

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#18 Chiddaling
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9.0 IMO. Buying this day one for PC. :D
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#19 Brownesque
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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

Brownesque

Oh, that's too bad you're the only one bashing the game.

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#21 HAZE-Unit
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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

Brownesque

lol why? this is like one of the best games coming this year.

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9.5 - I feel Treyarch has a winner winner chicken dinner on their hands.

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#23 xX-Incubus-Xx
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If MW2 with all it's issues can pull a 9.0. Then BO will EASILY score a 9.5. I voted AAA for sure. But with how much customization, the incerdible lengths they went to balance, 2 co-op modes, and much more I could see this getting a 10. The whole game just seems to have a coat of polish that MW2 was, sadly, lacking.

LMAO, just imagine a COD scoring a 10. COD haters would explode.

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#24 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

HAZE-Unit

lol why? this is like one of the best games coming this year.

Just stop, I'm already in a deep pit of misery. Best game coming this year? Why? Because there's a zombie mode? Because there's a gun game? Because they learned how to copy the most popular Counter Strike mods? Because they're fixing some of the more glaring issues with MW2 that lit up the IW forums for 3 weeks with troll threads? Call of Duty's core gameplay was always weak, they're still not fixing the core gameplay issues introduced in Call of Duty 4, and their actual creative contributions to the series remain limited. This is just another me-too experience.
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#25 HAZE-Unit
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If MW2 with all it's issues can pull a 9.0. Then BO will EASILY score a 9.5. I voted AAA for sure. But with how much customization, the incerdible lengths they went to balance, 2 co-op modes, and much more I could see this getting a 10. The whole game just seems to have a coat of polish that MW2 was, sadly, lacking.

LMAO, just imagine a COD scoring a 10. COD haters would explode.

xX-Incubus-Xx

that'd be hilarious to see lol.

but like I said the FPS genre is the most competitive and up to date so it's almost impossible for a FPS game to reach the 10 mark.

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#26 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="ksko"]

dam its cheap in the u.s , over here in New zealand its like100u.s$

October_Tide

Yeah I know. If you are getting it for PC, buy it from D2D (direct to drive). Unlike steam which has regional pricing (so for us it's 89.99USD, which is around 120NZD), d2d just has the same list price of 59.99 USD or around 80NZD. That's where I'm getting it from (though I'm having problems with my credit card :evil: ).

BTW OP you forgot Dead Ops mode, though I guess it hasn't been actually confirmed yet.

It has been confirmed. At the main menu screen you mash L2 and R2. When you get up you go to a computer and type DOA. It'll start another zombie game. Top down camera view. Something like Zombie apocolypse.

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#27 Cloud567kar
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AAA, sadly

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#28 timmy00
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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

Brownesque

Honestly Treyarch is doing their best to make this the best COD game they ever made and people are still hating on it. The pretty much fixed all the problem MW2 had. No commando, OMA, and commando! They also nerfed scavenger. If you don't like the core gameplay of COD well then cool opinion bro. Though you should really keep it to yourself. :)

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#29 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

Brownesque

lol why? this is like one of the best games coming this year.

Just stop, I'm already in a deep pit of misery. Best game coming this year? Why? Because there's a zombie mode? Because there's a gun game? Because they learned how to copy the most popular Counter Strike mods? Because they're fixing some of the more glaring issues with MW2 that lit up the IW forums for 3 weeks with troll threads? Call of Duty's core gameplay was always weak, they're still not fixing the core gameplay issues introduced in Call of Duty 4, and their actual creative contributions to the series remain limited. This is just another me-too experience.

read again I said "ONE" of the best games coming this year.

and don't make me laugh harder, Black Ops me-tto experience ? are you serious? I don't know I think you are joking :P

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To be honest it looks like an amazing improvement over MW2. They seem to have addressed 95% of the problems I have had MW2. I enjoyed CoD 4 and WaW but MW2 was just stupid. I'm excited and it looks like it will be a solid AAA title.

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To be honest it looks like an amazing improvement over MW2. They seem to have addressed 95% of the problems I have had MW2. I enjoyed CoD 4 and WaW but MW2 was just stupid. I'm excited and it looks like it will be a solid AAA title.

Wasdie

MW2 was pretty bad, there was just so much wrong with that game and being a PC gamer, IW.NET was pretty much like a punch in the face. I'm glad that there are at least going to be admin tools for the servers because I really don't think VAC will work that well. It didn't in mw2.

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To be honest it looks like an amazing improvement over MW2. They seem to have addressed 95% of the problems I have had MW2. I enjoyed CoD 4 and WaW but MW2 was just stupid. I'm excited and it looks like it will be a solid AAA title.

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That's basically my opinion, word for word.
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#33 HAZE-Unit
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To be honest it looks like an amazing improvement over MW2. They seem to have addressed 95% of the problems I have had MW2. I enjoyed CoD 4 and WaW but MW2 was just stupid. I'm excited and it looks like it will be a solid AAA title.

Wasdie

I agree, there are improvements all around the game and the PC is gaining it's freedom again, there will always be balancing issues in a big customizable game like COD though, it's hard to balance out over 40 weapons add to that perks.

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#34 Ziek-AAT
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It's shaping up to be a lot better than MW2, but I'm still not fully convinced. I'll wait for reviews...

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#35 Blacklight2
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Hopefully a 9.5 but i'm guessing 9.0, I'm really hyped for this.
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#36 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

Brownesque

lol why? this is like one of the best games coming this year.

Just stop, I'm already in a deep pit of misery. Best game coming this year? Why? Because there's a zombie mode? Because there's a gun game? Because they learned how to copy the most popular Counter Strike mods? Because they're fixing some of the more glaring issues with MW2 that lit up the IW forums for 3 weeks with troll threads? Call of Duty's core gameplay was always weak, they're still not fixing the core gameplay issues introduced in Call of Duty 4, and their actual creative contributions to the series remain limited. This is just another me-too experience.

Then why come into this thread to hate on it? Obviously you dont care about COD at all. Less trolling please.

If you're going to rag on the game at least go into more detail then just saying "hurr, durr, it sucks" in order to try to start a flame war.

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W, TGWBYM :D 9.0/10 on GS me thinks.

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I'm calling it 9.5 making it the best COD game ever :D

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

timmy00

Honestly Treyarch is doing their best to make this the best COD game they ever made and people are still hating on it. The pretty much fixed all the problem MW2 had. No commando, OMA, and commando! They also nerfed scavenger. If you don't like the core gameplay of COD well then cool opinion bro. Though you should really keep it to yourself. :)

Srsly? Look at the series' history. COD2 was not highly marked upon for the success of its multiplayer, largely because the gameplay mechanics were weak and uninteresting. COD3, likewise. Nobody even plays that game online. But then they add a stupid perk/leveling mechanic that people got addicted to and it became a multiplayer blockbuster overnight. If I were to suggest that Call of Duty remove perks and levelups, people would QQ until this forum was flooded with tears, because they don't even enjoy the core gameplay behind the franchise. It's not just my opinion, it's their whole game design philosophy.
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#40 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

Brownesque

Honestly Treyarch is doing their best to make this the best COD game they ever made and people are still hating on it. The pretty much fixed all the problem MW2 had. No commando, OMA, and commando! They also nerfed scavenger. If you don't like the core gameplay of COD well then cool opinion bro. Though you should really keep it to yourself. :)

Srsly? Look at the series' history. COD2 was not highly marked upon for the success of its multiplayer, largely because the gameplay mechanics were weak and uninteresting. COD3, likewise. Nobody even plays that game online. But then they add a stupid perk/leveling mechanic that people got addicted to and it became a multiplayer blockbuster overnight. If I were to suggest that Call of Duty remove perks and levelups, people would QQ until this forum was flooded with tears, because they don't even enjoy the core gameplay behind the franchise. It's not just my opinion, it's their whole game design philosophy.

are you really serious? the core gunplay mechanics of COD ( COD4 and on ) are amongst the best of the best that's why it's addicting, put level up and perk system in other shooters and see if people can hold on to that game longer than COD lol.

recent examples, Medal of honor and Killzone 2.

putting new features for games was never the most important factor for great games, it's the core gameplay mechanics that lasts.

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#41 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Srsly? Look at the series' history. COD2 was not highly marked upon for the success of its multiplayer, largely because the gameplay mechanics were weak and uninteresting. COD3, likewise. Nobody even plays that game online. But then they add a stupid perk/leveling mechanic that people got addicted to and it became a multiplayer blockbuster overnight. If I were to suggest that Call of Duty remove perks and levelups, people would QQ until this forum was flooded with tears, because they don't even enjoy the core gameplay behind the franchise. It's not just my opinion, it's their whole game design philosophy.

It really just sounds like you don't like the COD formula, I on the other hand am a fan of it, see how that works? And they actually have wager matches without the perk and leveling system and it still looks fun to me, so obviously it isn't all about the perks and leveling up for some people.
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Going 8.5.

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#43 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="timmy00"]Honestly Treyarch is doing their best to make this the best COD game they ever made and people are still hating on it. The pretty much fixed all the problem MW2 had. No commando, OMA, and commando! They also nerfed scavenger. If you don't like the core gameplay of COD well then cool opinion bro. Though you should really keep it to yourself. :)

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Srsly? Look at the series' history. COD2 was not highly marked upon for the success of its multiplayer, largely because the gameplay mechanics were weak and uninteresting. COD3, likewise. Nobody even plays that game online. But then they add a stupid perk/leveling mechanic that people got addicted to and it became a multiplayer blockbuster overnight. If I were to suggest that Call of Duty remove perks and levelups, people would QQ until this forum was flooded with tears, because they don't even enjoy the core gameplay behind the franchise. It's not just my opinion, it's their whole game design philosophy.

are you really serious? the core gunplay mechanics of COD ( COD4 and on ) are amongst the best of the best that's why it's addicting, put level up and perk system in other shooters and see if people can hold on to that game longer than COD lol.

recent examples, Medal of honor and Killzone 2.

putting new features for games was never the most important factor for great games, it's the core gameplay mechanics that lasts.

Killzone 2 lost it's crowd because it's not a n00b friendly game. There's very little aim assist and it makes it quite difficult to get a kill if you dont adjust your play s.tyle. Nobody can claim that COD isn't n00b friendly. It is. But so what? The gameplay is fun, perks add a fun element and killstreaks reward you for doing good.

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#45 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Srsly? Look at the series' history. COD2 was not highly marked upon for the success of its multiplayer, largely because the gameplay mechanics were weak and uninteresting. COD3, likewise. Nobody even plays that game online. But then they add a stupid perk/leveling mechanic that people got addicted to and it became a multiplayer blockbuster overnight. If I were to suggest that Call of Duty remove perks and levelups, people would QQ until this forum was flooded with tears, because they don't even enjoy the core gameplay behind the franchise. It's not just my opinion, it's their whole game design philosophy.xX-Incubus-Xx

are you really serious? the core gunplay mechanics of COD ( COD4 and on ) are amongst the best of the best that's why it's addicting, put level up and perk system in other shooters and see if people can hold on to that game longer than COD lol.

recent examples, Medal of honor and Killzone 2.

putting new features for games was never the most important factor for great games, it's the core gameplay mechanics that lasts.

Killzone 2 lost it's crowd because it's not a n00b friendly game. There's very little aim assist and it makes it quite difficult to get a kill if you dont adjust your play s.tyle. Nobody can claim that COD isn't n00b friendly. It is. But so what? The gameplay is fun, perks add a fun element and killstreaks reward you for doing good.

KZ2 was ridiculously aimed for something the player don't want to experience , the gameplay was not what you could call "fun to play", the aiming and movement was not realistic at all, Im thankful they removed all of that crap in the KZ3 beta, they just need to put some recoil to the weapons and we are good to go.

COD is noob friendly as I said you can't balance that amount of weapons with their customizations and perks, to me MW2 was the most noob friendly COD.

point is regardless of what KZ2 was, there was something better in the core gunplay mechanics in COD and that's why more people like COD.

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I will say that Treyarch is doing something new to this new COD game then what Infinity Ward did with MW2 (Which is overrated by the way). But again I hope that after this game and MW3 if it is ever made, it will be the end of the series once and for all.

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#48 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="xX-Incubus-Xx"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

are you really serious? the core gunplay mechanics of COD ( COD4 and on ) are amongst the best of the best that's why it's addicting, put level up and perk system in other shooters and see if people can hold on to that game longer than COD lol.

recent examples, Medal of honor and Killzone 2.

putting new features for games was never the most important factor for great games, it's the core gameplay mechanics that lasts.

HAZE-Unit

Killzone 2 lost it's crowd because it's not a n00b friendly game. There's very little aim assist and it makes it quite difficult to get a kill if you dont adjust your play s.tyle. Nobody can claim that COD isn't n00b friendly. It is. But so what? The gameplay is fun, perks add a fun element and killstreaks reward you for doing good.

KZ2 was ridiculously aimed for something the player don't want to experience , the gameplay was not what you could call "fun to play", the aiming and movement was not realistic at all, Im thankful they removed all of that crap in the KZ3 beta, they just need to put some recoil to the weapons and we are good to go.

COD is noob friendly as I said you can't balance that amount of weapons with their customizations and perks, to me MW2 was the most noob friendly COD.

point is regardless of what KZ2 was, there was something better in the core gunplay mechanics in COD and that's why more people like COD.

I was very good at KZ2. As I said, it just required a different playing STYLE(sorry for caps. firefox doesn't like s.tyle or c.lass). I'm not saying that I wouldn't welcome a change. KZ3 beta looks awesome, except the LMG's look really over powered.

I like both games in their own respects. Both are very different and fun in their own ways. You don't/didn't enjoy KZ2, that your opinion and I respect that too.

You should also add into the main post about Dead Ops. It's a top down camera zombie game like Zombie Apocolypse..

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

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Please kill the Call of Duty hype train with fire, oh lord.

lol why? this is like one of the best games coming this year.

Just stop, I'm already in a deep pit of misery. Best game coming this year? Why? Because there's a zombie mode? Because there's a gun game? Because they learned how to copy the most popular Counter Strike mods? Because they're fixing some of the more glaring issues with MW2 that lit up the IW forums for 3 weeks with troll threads? Call of Duty's core gameplay was always weak, they're still not fixing the core gameplay issues introduced in Call of Duty 4, and their actual creative contributions to the series remain limited. This is just another me-too experience.

because despite you hating on it like a little child that is mad that his parents won't buy it for him, doesn't mean the same thing for everyone else. it WILL get AAA almost everywhere and it will be a bestseller. right there indicates that people like it. not only that, but you are a fool if you think cod4 was bad. mw2 included a lot of stuff that was stupid like deathstreaks and ridiculous killstreaks while removing options for pc gamers. guess what changed? (hint: read the op for list of improvements)
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In my opinion, Treyarch is evolving the franchise way more then what IW did with MW2. I've recently watched a 1 hour gaming sesssion of Black Ops multiplayer and I'm pleasantly surprised with all the new game modes and how Treyarch is really trying to make the game fun. Wasn't really hyping this game until yesterday so this whole thing really hit me by suprise.