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#101 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Please post each screenshots at 1280x720p.

ronvalencia

May I ask why?

Less pixels hides information.

No hud = bullshots. Try posting pictures of someone actually playing live.

You seee the Crysis pictures I posted? They are of ME PLAYING THE GAME LIVE. Not of me takign screenshots of a replay.

These below are GAMEPLAY shots of someone actually playing.

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#102 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Please post each screenshots at 1280x720p.

ronvalencia

May I ask why?

Less pixels hides information.

those look like someone zoomed in on them, btw, are those screens from SP or MP? cuz i do remember seeing those pics before the game was long out.

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#103 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] May I ask why?ZoomZoom2490

Less pixels hides information.

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those look like someone zoomed in on them, btw, are those screens from SP or MP? cuz i do remember seeing those pics before the game was long out.

The last screenshot was from http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2

Direct HDMI feed.

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#104 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Less pixels hides information.

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ronvalencia

those look like someone zoomed in on them, btw, are those screens from SP or MP? cuz i do remember seeing those pics before the game was long out.

The last screenshot was from http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2

Direct HDMI feed.

As they say on that link.... "The free camera mode".

Taking pictures with a camera or picture mode is not the same as taking pictures of someone actually playing, with the game hud and everything in there.

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#105 gamecubepad
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I've come to the conclusion that hermits love being trolled. Reminds me of something I once read...

"And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed."

Arach666

Revelation 13:15 methinks? Am I rigth? Of course I am,I googled it!!! :P

Even satanists love the Book of Revelation:P

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#106 tempest91
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That list fails. Want a prove? Look at #2.

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#107 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] May I ask why?kozzy1234

Less pixels hides information.

No hud = bullshots. Try posting pictures of someone actually playing live.

You seee the Crysis pictures I posted? They are of ME PLAYING THE GAME LIVE. Not of me takign screenshots of a replay.

Crysis Warhead with high(gamer) settings.  Crysis Warhead with medium (mainstream) settings with max texture quality.

Crysis Warhead with medium (mainstream) settings with max texture quality

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#108 Yankees718
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The pixels make my eyes hurt...

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#110 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Except you have one thing wrong..... most of the people sayign Crysis Graphics >> Uncharted 2 graphics are mult system owners (PC, PS3, Wii, 360,DS,etc..). Its not just PC ONLY gamers that say Crysis graphics >>> all

Check back in that thread that you started.. the votes are in Crysis favor and its not just PC fans voting for crysis..

gamecubepad

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

From what I saw, your pictures proved even less.

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#111 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] those look like someone zoomed in on them, btw, are those screens from SP or MP? cuz i do remember seeing those pics before the game was long out.

kozzy1234

The last screenshot was from http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2

Direct HDMI feed.

As they say on that link.... "The free camera mode".

Taking pictures with a camera or picture mode is not the same as taking pictures of someone actually playing, with the game hud and everything in there.

Why the differences? Not enough compute resource? Please post 1280x720p screenshots.

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#112 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Except you have one thing wrong..... most of the people sayign Crysis Graphics >> Uncharted 2 graphics are mult system owners (PC, PS3, Wii, 360,DS,etc..). Its not just PC ONLY gamers that say Crysis graphics >>> all

Check back in that thread that you started.. the votes are in Crysis favor and its not just PC fans voting for crysis..

gamecubepad

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

Again you shy away.

There are TONS of people who posted in that thread that DONT HAVE there pc specs in it that say Crysis Graphics >>>>> Uncharted2.

So no its not just Hermits voting or saying this.. go back to the thread and check... its 360 owners, ps3 owners, Wii owners, pc owners,etc...

Your making it seem like ONLY Hermits said Crysis graphics > Uncharted2 graphics.
Hell, Ive owned every console this gen and a pc and have owned most consoles since atari/nes, but even I can tell without a doubt then when playing Crysis/Crysis Warhead and then Uncharted2 after, Crysis is king of graphics.

Uncharted2 might be the better game, but graphics wise its years behind Crysis.

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#113 gamecubepad
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

lundy86_4

From what I saw, your pictures proved even less.

Oh, the proof wasn't in the pictures. It was in the response.

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#114 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] The last screenshot was from http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-tech-analysis-uncharted-article?page=2

Direct HDMI feed.

ronvalencia

As they say on that link.... "The free camera mode".

Taking pictures with a camera or picture mode is not the same as taking pictures of someone actually playing, with the game hud and everything in there.

Why the differences? Not enough compute resource?

Well some people were bugging people who posted Crysis pictures who didnt have a HUD in them (they can type a few words and get rid of the hud). Trying to act like Crysis only looks good in replay or when pictures are taken away from the main screen that you play on.

Cant have it both ways.. people cant post all these Uncharted2 pictures from the picture/camera mode and then start getting angry if a person posts a Crysis picture with no HUD or in Camera Mode/editor mode.

If we are gonna compare in game screenshots OF SOMEONE PLAYING, then lets all post pictures of the the game being played AS WE SEE IT WHEN WE PLAY (AKA with the HUD, showing health or ammo,etc..).

Just my opinion.

I enjoyed Uncharted2 and Crysis about the same, two of the better games this gen imo, but graphics wise its not close.

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#115 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

As they say on that link.... "The free camera mode".

Taking pictures with a camera or picture mode is not the same as taking pictures of someone actually playing, with the game hud and everything in there.

kozzy1234

Why the differences? Not enough compute resource?

Well some people were bugging people who posted Crysis pictures who didnt have a HUD in them (they can type a few words and get rid of the hud). Trying to act like Crysis only looks good in replay or when pictures are taken away from the main screen that you play on.

Cant have it both ways.. people cant post all these Uncharted2 pictures from the picture/camera mode and then start getting angry if a person posts a Crysis picture with no HUD or in Camera Mode/editor mode.

If we are gonna compare in game screenshots OF SOMEONE PLAYING, then lets all post pictures of the the game being played AS WE SEE IT WHEN WE PLAY (AKA with the HUD, showing health or ammo,etc..).

Just my opinion.

I enjoyed Uncharted2 and Crysis about the same, two of the better games this gen imo, but graphics wise its not close.

Firstly, 1280x720p screenshots should be a priority.

Crysis and Crysis Warhead doesn't have "photo mode" i.e. Crytek believes in "what you see is what you play".

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#116 Ultimaspooges
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Ahhh, MGS4 > Crysis Warhead graphics.

I love that one.

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#117 Silverbond
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Sorry. Crysis is king.

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#118 ronvalencia
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Ahhh, MGS4 > Crysis Warhead graphics.

I love that one.

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#119 Ultimaspooges
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[QUOTE="Ultimaspooges"]

Ahhh, MGS4 > Crysis Warhead graphics.

I love that one.

ronvalencia

I win

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#120 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Ultimaspooges"]

Ahhh, MGS4 > Crysis Warhead graphics.

I love that one.

Ultimaspooges

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#121 Ultimaspooges
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Ya rly

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#122 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Uncharted 2 the best graphics? Man that game doesn't even compare to the game of the century: Rogue Warrior 8):P;).

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#123 Bebi_vegeta
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Ya rly

Ultimaspooges

Even in your photobucket, it says your playing Crysis in low settings... that's pretty sad.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/roe92gnaget/Low/crysisonlow.jpg?t=1262236212

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#124 ronvalencia
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Ya rly

Ultimaspooges

Narrow in scale.Where's thedestructive environment?

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Crysis Warhead at DX9c mainstream settings on Geforce 9500M GS (G84M) 512MB DDR2. Destructive environment,time of day, shader physics on vegetation, voxel mountain and objects.

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FarCry 1

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[QUOTE="Ultimaspooges"]

Ya rly

ronvalencia

Narrow in scale.Where's destructive environment?

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Crysis Warhead at mainstream settings on Geforce 9500M GS (G84M) 512MB DDR2.

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FarCry 1

crysis wars on 3870 w/ 40fps

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#126 lloveLamp
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playstation dominating as usual. its good to see honest reporting every once in a while
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#127 Silverbond
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playstation dominating as usual. its good to see honest reporting every once in a whilelloveLamp

Except the Playstation isn't dominating and that wasn't very honest reporting.

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#128 WiiMan21
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well, MGS4 at 2 is trash, Good character models, but serious? Better than crysis?

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#129 mitu123
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#2 is already proof they go by yearly, no way Metal Gear Solid 4 beats Crysis technically, and what's with the cow comparing Crysis on low to MGS4, and there are better MGS4 screens than that.

Didn't anyone notice a pattern? The higher the ranking the later the year, since MGS4 and UC2 came out after Crysis, they beat it, like Crysis beating games 4.-10., get it?

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#130 mitu123
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Except you have one thing wrong..... most of the people sayign Crysis Graphics >> Uncharted 2 graphics are mult system owners (PC, PS3, Wii, 360,DS,etc..). Its not just PC ONLY gamers that say Crysis graphics >>> all

Check back in that thread that you started.. the votes are in Crysis favor and its not just PC fans voting for crysis..

gamecubepad

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

I'm sorry, but Uncharted 2 only comes close to Crysis in character models and maybe even animation, the pics in the other thread are far more impressive than the UC2 pics, the only UC2 pic that came close to Crysis is a cutscene pic using SSAO.:D

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#131 psn8214
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Just a question, but why do all you folk even care which games have the best graphics? I mean, its fun to debate to a degree, but seriously... do any of you actually gain satisfaction knowing your platform has the supposed best looking title?

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#132 Skittles_McGee
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I don't even have to click that to know its wrong. Its a game made on a console. You can have some very good looking games and some very visually pleasing games but at the end of the day it is a console. A unchanging piece of hardware. The pieces of hardware inside it aren't bottomless pools of potential, they have limits. That being said, since we already know the hardware in the consoles is weaker than hardware used to max Crysis, it doesn't take much thought to realize it isn't possible, from a technical aspect, to beat it :|
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#133 HermitQ6600
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Pong has way better graphics than UC2

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#134 StripTheSoul
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So has anyone pointed out yet that this list isn't really a ranking list, merely a list of graphically superior games per year in the decade starting from 2000 to 2009?

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#135 AAllxxjjnn
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So has anyone pointed out yet that this list isn't really a ranking list, merely a list of graphically superior games per year in the decade starting from 2000 to 2009?

StripTheSoul
"It's boils down to this: Uncharted 2 is the best looking game of the decade. "
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#136 mitu123
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So has anyone pointed out yet that this list isn't really a ranking list, merely a list of graphically superior games per year in the decade starting from 2000 to 2009?

StripTheSoul

My 1st post did.:)

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#137 Shinobi120
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Uncharted 2 better than Crysis in graphics? Now, that's a laugh & a half.

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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Except you have one thing wrong..... most of the people sayign Crysis Graphics >> Uncharted 2 graphics are mult system owners (PC, PS3, Wii, 360,DS,etc..). Its not just PC ONLY gamers that say Crysis graphics >>> all

Check back in that thread that you started.. the votes are in Crysis favor and its not just PC fans voting for crysis..

mitu123

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

I'm sorry, but Uncharted 2 only comes close to Crysis in character models and maybe even animation, the pics in the other thread are far more impressive than the UC2 pics, the only UC2 pic that came close to Crysis is a cutscene pic using SSAO.:D

I respect your opinion mitu, but Uncharted 2 destroys Crysis. It took me 20 threads and 2,000 pics of Uncharted 2 to finally see it cows' way. I'm gonna need at least 1,000 more pics of Crysis posted in 10 more threads to even consider it being equal with Uncharted 2.

I've never played Crysis, but imo better char. models and animation is better than a few hundred 500poly. trees over bland landscape with a building and 5 guards here and there. Not to mention you need at least a $500 comp to make it pop.

Someday I hope to play Crysis, but my comp is a rock tied on a string, hanging from a stick.

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#139 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

gamecubepad

I'm sorry, but Uncharted 2 only comes close to Crysis in character models and maybe even animation, the pics in the other thread are far more impressive than the UC2 pics, the only UC2 pic that came close to Crysis is a cutscene pic using SSAO.:D

I respect your opinion mitu, but Uncharted 2 destroys Crysis. It took me 20 threads and 2,000 pics of Uncharted 2 to finally see it cows' way. I'm gonna need at least 1,000 more pics of Crysis posted in 10 more threads to even consider it being equal with Uncharted 2.

I've never played Crysis, but imo better char. models and animation is better than a few hundred 500poly. trees over bland landscape with a building and 5 guards here and there. Not to mention you need at least a $500 comp to make it pop.

Someday I hope to play Crysis, but my comp is a rock tied on a string, hanging from a stick.

You can look at pictures of both all day, but thats no accurate representation. Having physically seen both in action firsthand, there's very little that UC2 does better, graphically.
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#140 klusps
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I've have both and I have to say Crysis is far suprior in terms of graphics and scope.

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#141 StripTheSoul
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[QUOTE="StripTheSoul"]

So has anyone pointed out yet that this list isn't really a ranking list, merely a list of graphically superior games per year in the decade starting from 2000 to 2009?

AAllxxjjnn

"It's boils down to this: Uncharted 2 is the best looking game of the decade. "

But still, just the way they did it was a little iffy.

Then again, it is a little stupid to compare games from this year to games from 2001-2003 when we have come a very, VERY, long way in terms of hardware and the technical side of graphics.

Then again imo I still believe Crysis is superior. Nothing is more awesome then punches crabs and throwing them at Koreans.

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#142 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

gamecubepad

I'm sorry, but Uncharted 2 only comes close to Crysis in character models and maybe even animation, the pics in the other thread are far more impressive than the UC2 pics, the only UC2 pic that came close to Crysis is a cutscene pic using SSAO.:D

I respect your opinion mitu, but Uncharted 2 destroys Crysis. It took me 20 threads and 2,000 pics of Uncharted 2 to finally see it cows' way. I'm gonna need at least 1,000 more pics of Crysis posted in 10 more threads to even consider it being equal with Uncharted 2.

I've never played Crysis, but imo better char. models and animation is better than a few hundred 500poly. trees over bland landscape with a building and 5 guards here and there. Not to mention you need at least a $500 comp to make it pop.

Someday I hope to play Crysis, but my comp is a rock tied on a string, hanging from a stick.

Er, Crysis beats that game in mostly textures, environments, lighting, physics, weapon models, particle effects, and more graphical features all while rendering at once in massive areas without cutting back, and even if Uncharted 2 beats it in character models and animation it doesn't destroy it, I own both games BTW. I'm glad you respect my opinion, but I've always seen the cutscenes looking stunning and close to Crysis at some points. The gameplay graphics don't equal the cutscenes and simply can't out do Crysis overall.

Bland landscape? There are lots of amazing looking places in the game, though I wish to see less jungle areas, the game has more locations than that, later on in the game, the environments look breathtaking as it isn't just jungles either.

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#143 psn8214
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These debates tire me...

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#144 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't start that thread. Although, I did set it off. 8)

That's just more proof that Hermit's love being trolled so they can spit shine their little PC spec sigs and post a bunch of pictures that do little to prove anything.

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I'm sorry, but Uncharted 2 only comes close to Crysis in character models and maybe even animation, the pics in the other thread are far more impressive than the UC2 pics, the only UC2 pic that came close to Crysis is a cutscene pic using SSAO.:D

I respect your opinion mitu, but Uncharted 2 destroys Crysis. It took me 20 threads and 2,000 pics of Uncharted 2 to finally see it cows' way. I'm gonna need at least 1,000 more pics of Crysis posted in 10 more threads to even consider it being equal with Uncharted 2.

I've never played Crysis, but imo better char. models and animation is better than a few hundred 500poly. trees over bland landscape with a building and 5 guards here and there. Not to mention you need at least a $500 comp to make it pop.

Someday I hope to play Crysis, but my comp is a rock tied on a string, hanging from a stick.

I was waiting for this...

Triangles contest envy from Crytek side i.e. refer to http://www.crytek.com/fileadmin/user_upload/inside/presentations/2009/Light_Propagation_Volumes.pdf

Page 28, Island scene (yet another island scene from Crytek) has 2100 draw calls and 2.32 million triangles. Page 29 shows the scene for the benchmarkframe. Page 29, it shows the scene's benchmark in rendering the frame i.e. Xbox 360 vs PS3.

The Xbox 360 is slightly faster. For light propagation volumes benchmark, the scene has 2.32 million triangles. Target frame rate is 30 fps and 1280x720p. In terms of substance, CryEngine2's vegetation scenes is similar to CryEngine3. Crytek has stated the PC is their strongest gaming platform.

PS; CryEngine 3 almost doubled it's triangles count over UC2.

Care for a re-match?

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#145 Shinobi120
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These debates tire me...

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I'm with you. I'm just wondering when cows are going to wake up & realize that their precious PS3 can't outperform today's PC's graphics, visuals, etc., & games such as Crysis (Crysis 2 even)? The PS3 is using a 5-6 year old outdated tech inside their system & doesn't have the kind of power to pull off those kind of things, for crying out loud.

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#146 stereointegrity
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stop posting screen shots and post videos......crysis has tons of object pop and runs at a very inconsistent frame rate and uncharted has some texture pop and funky graphic hiccups
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#147 ronvalencia
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stop posting screen shots and post videos......crysis has tons of object pop and runs at a very inconsistent frame rate and uncharted has some texture pop and funky graphic hiccupsstereointegrity
In relation object pops, Crysis Warhead runs fine with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 and desktop Radeon HD 4850.

For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YqlQqszb4Y

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#148 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]stop posting screen shots and post videos......crysis has tons of object pop and runs at a very inconsistent frame rate and uncharted has some texture pop and funky graphic hiccupsronvalencia
In relation object pops, Crysis Warhead runs fine with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 and desktop Radeon HD 4850.

for me on regular crysis with my 5870 rocks and palm tree leafs and such still pop in as ur running along the beach or forrest....
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BTW. I'm glad you respect my opinion, but I've always seen the cutscenes looking stunning and close to Crysis at some points. The gameplay graphics don't equal the cutscenes and simply can't out do Crysis overall.

mitu123

But what about that thread? At first it was like 50 to 2, Crysis over Uncharted 2. Then when I posted those pics it went to 300 to 130. It shows that it's not as set in stone like Crysis fans think. Maybe they're wrong, and just winning polls because they intimidate people with big numbers and modded setups on $700 hardware?

I tried playing Crysis on my in-laws comp and it wouldn't even run. Maybe other people have this problem too. Some folks can't even run the game on medium. So maybe they just take hermits word, and that might not be safe. Hermits have to play alone for a reason.

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#150 StripTheSoul
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Hermits have to play alone for a reason.

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