Oh I can't wait till Al Sharpton sees RE5....

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#1 MadExponent
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Who here wants to make a bet he will try to get the game cancelled due to blacks being the primary targets in the game? I don't mean to bring this to light so much as I just realized that it would likely happen due to the fact an anglo saxon like Chris is beating up on a bunch of Africans. Even though the enemies in the game are plagued by a virus or parasite like in previous games, I think that will be pushed out the window in the media.

Am I over-analyzing or are Americans just too fragile these days? FYI, I'm American.

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#2 Elite_PC_gamer
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I couldn't help but feel sorry for those African Americans when watching the RE5 video
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#3 Ragashahs
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nothings gonna happen you guys are being overly sensitive. what???? their are black people in africa????? when did that happen???? if he does make a fuss it doesn't matter becuase people will still buy the game.
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#4 bobby_homeless
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I thought they were Haitian..
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#5 jack_russel
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I'm black and I didn't see the problem. I don't think this will be a big deal.
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#6 ColoradoKindBud
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Um, no. Just no.

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#7 strudel420
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This topic is exactly what I thought when I saw the trailer. Someone is going to make a big deal out of this and Capcom will probably get sued for $500 Million dollars or something ridiculous.

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#8 MadExponent
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My point was not that it was bad but rather that a race pimp like Sharpton would try to say it was.....
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Who here wants to make a bet he will try to get the game cancelled due to blacks being the primary targets in the game? I don't mean to bring this to light so much as I just realized that it would likely happen due to the fact an anglo saxon like Chris is beating up on a bunch of Africans. Even though the enemies in the game are plagued by a virus or parasite like in previous games, I think that will be pushed out the window in the media.

Am I over-analyzing or are Americans just too fragile these days? FYI, I'm American.

MadExponent

I'll admit, i thought this was a joke thread

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Yeah I really hope no big deal is made over nothing. This game is set in Africa, Subsaharan Africa is mostly black. You're killing zombies, so I think they would look like the locals. It probably won't get noted because it is such a stretch and really is far more racist to get pissed about it than to ignore it. It's just as ridiculous as calling racism on Spanish people from RE4.
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#11 MikeE21286
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I hope that fat *** chokes on a piece of pie while he watches it too......
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#12 LINKloco
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I see nothing wrong with it.
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Already a large topic on it over at the 360 forums:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25802954

I can not even guess how many topics will be made on this over the next 2 years until the game comes out.

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This is ridiculous. Why is is bad just because it is black people they are killing? If it was any other race nobody would care. I can't believe this. If somebody does make a big deal than they are the racists that are playing off of past social inequalities.
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#15 -Sir-Poof-
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Its Al Sharpton if it can get him in the spot light you better believe hes gonna complain...

im hispanic and not once did i find RE4 racist heck i thought it was cool they spokespanish knowing i knew what they were saying while others didnt.

its a game, fiction, make belelieve, heck these africans arnt even african their zombies.

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#16 MadExponent
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Already a large topic on it over at the 360 forums:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25802954

I can not even guess how many topics will be made on this over the next 2 years until the game comes out.

limpbizkit818

I really hope everyone will come to terms that it isn't racist in anyway. Hopefully everyone will understand that the Japanese made the game anyways.

Also it's good to see an In Flames fan and a GOP supporter for a change. Far too many libs on the interweb these days.

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#17 Pariah_001
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I'm black and I didn't see the problem. I don't think this will be a big deal.jack_russel

Then you're obviously racist towards people of your own race.

Shame on you-you disgusting cretin!

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#18 ironcreed
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My God, the game does not come out until 2009, and people are already talking about it being a racist game because it has zombified Africans in it.:roll: Maybe they just thought that Africa would be a rather wild, and untamed setting for a Resident Evil game to take place in. Good idea if you ask me. No big deal.

What I really think we should do is STOP TALKING ABOUT IT, that way maybe it will be less prone to happen if it does not have a year and a half to grow into a real issue due to constant conversation about it spreading.

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This is ridiculous. Why is is bad just because it is black people they are killing? If it was any other race nobody would care. I can't believe this. If somebody does make a big deal than they are the racists that are playing off of past social inequalities.vendettared468

Pretty much totally agreed there. Nobody said a word about RE4, I can't believe anyone is even talking about RE5

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#20 kayn83
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Frankly, it probably will spark attention and simply generate a lot of buzz for the game. If the issue goes to civil court, Capcom will probably win with a lot of the aforementioned logic that was stated in thisthread alone. I also imagine that like Resident Evil 4, the enemies will probably change as the game progresses and therefore this will only encompass a small portion of the game. I used to think the Ganados were the only enemies in Resident Evil 4 after watching the trailers/advertisements.. boy was I wrong...

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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

Already a large topic on it over at the 360 forums:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25802954

I can not even guess how many topics will be made on this over the next 2 years until the game comes out.

MadExponent

I really hope everyone will come to terms that it isn't racist in anyway. Hopefully everyone will understand that the Japanese made the game anyways.

Also it's good to see an In Flames fan and a GOP supporter for a change. Far too many libs on the interweb these days.

I hope so too.

You hear the new In Flames demo? I don't know what happened to them! Really hope it stays a demo and doesn't wind up on their next album.

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It's set in Haiti, and as far as i know, most people there are black =/

Thats like people who saw Gun saying it's anti-Native American.

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#23 ryand2006
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The game takes place in AFRICA! AFRI FREAKING CA! Surprise! There are far more blacks than whites in Africa. If Chris was going "well... i don't like blacks, and this is a great oppertuinty to kill some!" Then there would be a major problem. But he's not, the race of the zombies is not being seen as an issue, it's just part of the setting. If it was set in America, it would be predominantly white, in Spain, predominatly spanish, in Asia, predominately Asian. Just don't make a big fuss. Capcom is not being racist.
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#24 ryand2006
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I couldn't help but feel sorry for those African Americans when watching the RE5 videoElite_PC_gamer

And i know this is a double post... but when people say things like this, it makes me hate political correctness. If a person in Africa is black, they are not "African American" they are AFRICAN. People are only African AMERICAN if they live in or have roots in AMERICA. Jesus people, use your common sense.

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#25 Thompsonwhore
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No one complained about Resident Evil 4 when all the enemies were of Latin heritage. I doubt the same will happen here.

If someone did make a public comment about it, someone would simply need to ask them if they would feel better if all the targets were white, and that should get them to shut up.

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#26 worthyofnote
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I thought we've been over this countless times over.

However, the approach this time was better than the countless threads I have seen where people were just moaning and arguing.

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Who here wants to make a bet he will try to get the game cancelled due to blacks being the primary targets in the game? I don't mean to bring this to light so much as I just realized that it would likely happen due to the fact an anglo saxon like Chris is beating up on a bunch of Africans. Even though the enemies in the game are plagued by a virus or parasite like in previous games, I think that will be pushed out the window in the media.

Am I over-analyzing or are Americans just too fragile these days? FYI, I'm American.

MadExponent

Are you sure Chris is Anglo-Saxon?

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#28 Shadow_op
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i also dont remember anyone complaining when i was killing thousands of chinese in the Onimusha series

or 63,500 white zombies in Dead Rising

or killing thousands of Orcs in Warcraft

NO ONE STICKS UP FOR THE GREEN PEOPLE!

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

Already a large topic on it over at the 360 forums:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25802954

I can not even guess how many topics will be made on this over the next 2 years until the game comes out.

limpbizkit818

I really hope everyone will come to terms that it isn't racist in anyway. Hopefully everyone will understand that the Japanese made the game anyways.

Also it's good to see an In Flames fan and a GOP supporter for a change. Far too many libs on the interweb these days.

I hope so too.

You hear the new In Flames demo? I don't know what happened to them! Really hope it stays a demo and doesn't wind up on their next album.

No I haven't I listen to their older stuff. Like Only for the Weak and Coerced Coexistence. The only semi new stuff I like is Leeches and Reflect the Storm.

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I can just see it now..... "Sorry people, we've gotten too many complaints about your ethnicity. We're replacing all of you with space Nazis."
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[QUOTE="vendettared468"]This is ridiculous. Why is is bad just because it is black people they are killing? If it was any other race nobody would care. I can't believe this. If somebody does make a big deal than they are the racists that are playing off of past social inequalities.MikeE21286

Pretty much totally agreed there. Nobody said a word about RE4, I can't believe anyone is even talking about RE5



Actually I seem to remember someone complaining, but it didn't go anywhere.  However, RE5 might touch a more sensitive subject.  that doesn't change the fact that, the content by no means is in anyway racist or derogitory.  Anyone who complains is only enabling the differences between races to remain socially problematic.
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#32 ATLBIinger
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Its set in Haiti not Africa. Been confirmed by Famitsu. Majority of people there are black/ hispanic.
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This is ridiculous. Why is is bad just because it is black people they are killing? If it was any other race nobody would care. I can't believe this. If somebody does make a big deal than they are the racists that are playing off of past social inequalities.vendettared468

Its because of history. slavery and racism against black people. Have you notice how if a white person says white power or says something about black people the world gets really upset. but black people can talk about white people. It all goes back to history and the way black people were treated in the past. but as someone of color i don't find resident evil 5 racist. but people will complain

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I couldn't help but feel sorry for those African Americans when watching the RE5 videoElite_PC_gamer

They aren't african americans, just Africans.

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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

Already a large topic on it over at the 360 forums:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25802954

I can not even guess how many topics will be made on this over the next 2 years until the game comes out.

limpbizkit818

I really hope everyone will come to terms that it isn't racist in anyway. Hopefully everyone will understand that the Japanese made the game anyways.

Also it's good to see an In Flames fan and a GOP supporter for a change. Far too many libs on the interweb these days.

I hope so too.

You hear the new In Flames demo? I don't know what happened to them! Really hope it stays a demo and doesn't wind up on their next album.

In Flames are one of my favourite bands, where did you hear the demo?

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#36 youngtongue
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In Re4 you kill white people. So what we can kill white people but not black people? Isn't that discrimination if video games had only white zombies to kill? Idk who would make a big deal about this i didnt even think about this until u brought it up. HOpefully no one makes a big deal about it but knowing some people everything is racist.

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It would be less "racist" if the white guy had a black, gun-wielding partner.

He has to be a black male....not a black female.

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It would be less "racist" if the white guy had a black, gun-wielding partner.

He has to be a black male....no black female.

emawk

with your last senteance i think you meant white male...no black female.

i want you guys to read this, i don't really know where i stand in this argument but i thought i'd show a perspective far removed from yours:

http://scrawledinwax.com/2007/07/resident-evil-5-who-wants-to-talk-race.html

there are countless ways capcom could've dodged this seemingly inescapable bullet of "man that game is raaaacist" but they haven't.

The problem rests with the fact that for many including myself it feels very "us VS them" if there were characters who weren't infected and you had to help them in resi 4 then that'd saved it.

I vaguely remember a latin stereotype who had a gun, and got stabbed towards the end...A part of me really thinks that capcom want you to feel like an american soldier killing civilians...whether or not they're playing on many people's xenophobic desires isdebatable.

But please don't act like this is just a stroll in the park. it really really isn't. Racism does exist today. in a lot of resi forums you'd hear "yay can't wait till kill n*****r zombies"or "damnzombiesin africa...you know there gonna be fast"

i didnt hear anyone saying that kinda BS for prior resident evils

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It would be less "racist" if the white guy had a black, gun-wielding partner.

He has to be a black male....no black female.

emawk

sad but its so true. No one has problems with killing anyone or doing anything to anyother race, but when it comes to america.... the second a african american is involved you can expect some BS to happen.

Remember a game for XBL called Castle Crashers ? Got that phone call that was released on the internet, about a woman calling in because all the bad guys where black guys ( tribe's people :roll: ) and you have never heard jack since about that game... That was one of my most anticipated games for the Xbox 360 period, and its just gone now.

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#40 JDW_games
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It looks like it takes place in an African Village or mabye an area like Cuba. There is no more reason to get worked up about this game other than any other game that includes monters or violence. Look at Grand Theft Auto.
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#41 emawk
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[QUOTE="emawk"]

It would be less "racist" if the white guy had a black, gun-wielding partner.

He has to be a black male....no black female.

Korrigan777

with your last senteance i think you meant white male...not black female.

No, I meant black male, as in one white male and one black male. You don't have to necessarily remove the the white lead character. All you have to do is show some black on black action. It'll be deemed more "appropriate" this way.

By the way, I am a BLACK AFRICAN.

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#42 Korrigan777
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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="emawk"]

It would be less "racist" if the white guy had a black, gun-wielding partner.

He has to be a black male....no black female.

emawk

with your last senteance i think you meant white male...not black female.

No, I meant black male, as one white male and one black male. You don't have to necessarily remove the the white lead character. All you have to do is show so black on black action. It'll be deemed "appropriate" this way.

By the way, I am a BLACK AFRICAN.

Ahhh i see what you mean. I remember reading one blog where a guy brought a good point. This game could make a very good social commentary on america and the state of war, like metal gear solid 4 and Army of 2 are doing.

In that case the lead character would HAVE to be white, as it'd be iconic of colonialism/and present day imperialism, invading iraq, afghanistan etc... A documentary called Why we fight talks in depth about this.

but judging from resi 4 i don't have much faith in capcom doing anything remotely intellectual.

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#43 FrozenLiquid
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It's not racist.

They're killing zombies, not black, sentient beings.

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I couldn't help but feel sorry for those African Americans when watching the RE5 videoElite_PC_gamer

at first i thought the trailer was a charity appeal.

just kidding.

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[QUOTE="Elite_PC_gamer"]I couldn't help but feel sorry for those African Americans when watching the RE5 video6matt6

at first i thought the trailer was a charity appeal.

just kidding.

And Chris Redfield was a rookie World Vision worker.

-watches the scene as he runs away from the people, jumping a fence-

:lol:

Run Chris, run!

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#46 Korrigan777
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It's not racist.

They're killing zombies, not black, sentient beings.

FrozenLiquid

i'm assuming that was directed at myself seeing as most of the people in this thread wholly agree with you.

I've resolved to think that the biggest potential tragedy with this isn't whether or not it's racist, but if capcom make another stupid storyline thats set in an "exotic" locale with non zombies for no real reason.

Before resi4 resident evil actually did have something to say, about corporations and crazy science but then it stooped into this vague terroritory where you no longer feel frightened and you're killing without really worrying about anything.

In resident evil you would find diaries from people who are slowly turning that would make you feel sorry for you're enemies. In resident evil there was lisa trevor who added a lot of tensionto the game, because you knew you had to kill her and it was messed up when you realised what she did to her parents.

in resi 4 there was no emotion, or tension. there was no crimson heads,or any of the other zombie types. it was thrilling, but you can have thrill and say something in equal measure, and resident evil has done this before.

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#47 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

It's not racist.

They're killing zombies, not black, sentient beings.

Korrigan777

i'm assuming that was directed at myself seeing as most of the people in this thread whollyagree with you.

I've resolved to think that the biggest potential tragedy with this isn't whether or not it's racist, but if capcom make another stupid storyline thats set in an "exotic" locale with non zombies for no real reason.

Before resi4resident evil actually did have something to say, about corporations andcrazy sciencebut then it stooped into thisvague terroritory where youno longer feel frightened and you're killingwithout really worrying aboutanything.

In resident evil you would find diaries from people who are slowly turningthat would make you feelsorry for you're enemies. In resident evil there was lisa trevor who added a lot of tensionto the game, because you knew youhad to kill herandit wasmessed up when you realised whatshe did to her parents.

in resi 4 there was no emotion, or tension. there was no crimson heads,or any of the other zombie types. it was thrilling, but you can have thrill and say something in equal measure, and resident evilhas done thisbefore.

Actually it was directed at no one.

And I've yet to play Resident Evil 4, coz I didn't have a GC or PS2 at the time. Might get it on PC though. I'm not a devout fan of Resident Evil 4, rather Silent Hill.

Still, from what I've seen, I can't see why people think its racist just because Africans are in the game. So if there was white people, would it not be racist?

Perhaps Capcom just to stage it there because in their culture they really do believe in the living dead and all, which is pretty creepy in itself.

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#48 6matt6
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]

[QUOTE="Elite_PC_gamer"]I couldn't help but feel sorry for those African Americans when watching the RE5 videoFrozenLiquid

at first i thought the trailer was a charity appeal.

just kidding.

And Chris Redfield was a rookie World Vision worker.

-watches the scene as he runs away from the people, jumping a fence-

:lol:

Run Chris, run!

RE5

with Bono asChris Redfield

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#49 4_Horsemen
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:lol:@ this thread. I'll laugh even more if Al Sharpton does indeed take offense to this game. There's nothing even remotely racist about RE5. Personally I'd be happy if someone included my race in a videogame. -that's not stereotypical.
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#50 akif22
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no one cared when it was Spaniards in RE4

it only makes sense that with the game being set in Africa or some other hot place, the locals are gonna be predominately blacks