OH SNAP!!! Cancel your Xbox Live It's $1.00 a week OMFG???

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] How bout I charge you $5 per month for your tapwater. Oh and I'll charge you $5 per month to go to sleep every night... What its $1.25 per week, are you poor?????VoodooHak

That's a perfect illustration of how entitled some gamers feel.

Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you.

I pay for Live because I like its features. I could easily just switch over to PSN, but I don't. There's more to value than a simple price tag. I enjoy using the party system, cross game chat, cross game invites and game launching at the OS level. I like the attention given by the community managers and policy enforcement staff. But hey, those are my reasons that I won't impose on anyone else.

For some reason, the anti-XBL contingent can't seem to live and let live. So go ahead and grind your axes and shake your fists to the heavens all you want. It won't change my reasons.

well when PS3 was released, i believe it was $200 more that the 360, but many made a huge fuss.. considering you will enjoy/game on said system for the next lets say 5 yrs was only gonna cost you round $3.33 a month :P (and that included the free online + also having a blu-ray player)...

TC did you ever see it this way when it comes to PS3?

back on topic, i dont like paying for XBL but when i love gaming online so when a game comes out which i know will spend time online, i simply pay for xbl.. unfortunately you either pay and play or just enjoy offline gaming..

[QUOTE="Domobomb"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] So you're paying a $1 a week for Live then. Not the games. :)

Verge_6

Yea... I thought it was obvious.

That we're discussing live? How is this not obvious? I'm asking what 360 exclusives are worth paying to have the multiplayer for?

if you have payed for xbl since launch thats 250, i didn't. i used that 250 to buy a new xbox for when mine broke.. either way your moneys going to microsoft.dvalo9

[QUOTE="dvalo9"]if you have payed for xbl since launch thats 250, i didn't. i used that 250 to buy a new xbox for when mine broke.. either way your moneys going to microsoft.Messiahbolical-

$460....doesnt match the PS3s price tag at launch

and buy your comment how old are you. PSN is equal to Live now. the re is no justification to pay 60 dollars a year.

Nov.22 2005 -Dec. 31, 2010

5yrs x 50.00=250.00 + cost of console= way more then the asking price of the launch ps3. And M$ is still squeezing money out of you.

POPEYE1716

Wait PSN is = to Live now:roll: let me go turn my PS3 on wait hu:?

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Inb4"it's teh principul"

The_Game21x

Umm...you know you have to pay every month for tap water right? :?

[QUOTE="POPEYE1716"]

and buy your comment how old are you. PSN is equal to Live now. the re is no justification to pay 60 dollars a year.

Nov.22 2005 -Dec. 31, 2010

5yrs x 50.00=250.00 + cost of console= way more then the asking price of the launch ps3. And M$ is still squeezing money out of you.

MortgageMan007

Wait PSN is = to Live now:roll: let me go turn my PS3 on wait hu:?

PSN ID?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] How bout I charge you $5 per month for your tapwater. Oh and I'll charge you $5 per month to go to sleep every night... What its $1.25 per week, are you poor?????ianuilliam

Umm...you know you have to pay every month for tap water right? :?

So ps3 users drill their own well?

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]if you have payed for xbl since launch thats 250, i didn't. i used that 250 to buy a new xbox for when mine broke.. either way your moneys going to microsoft.DroidPhysX

$460....doesnt match the PS3s price tag at launch

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] If you've payed for XBL since XBL's launch, that's $460. More than a PS3 and 2-3 games. But that's okay... right lems? Only $50 a year... wait, $60.ianuilliam

$460....doesnt match the PS3s price tag at launch

I know?:roll:

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Umm...you know you have to pay every month for tap water right? :?

DroidPhysX

So ps3 users drill their own well?

Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you.VoodooHak

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

$460....doesnt match the PS3s price tag at launch

DroidPhysX

I know?:roll:

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] Lol, essentials to life = gaming console online service. L2comparison, brah.Locutus_Picard

That's a perfect illustration of how entitled some gamers feel.

Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you.

I pay for Live because I like its features. I could easily just switch over to PSN, but I don't. There's more to value than a simple price tag. I enjoy using the party system, cross game chat, cross game invites and game launching at the OS level. I like the attention given by the community managers and policy enforcement staff. But hey, those are my reasons that I won't impose on anyone else.

For some reason, the anti-XBL contingent can't seem to live and let live. So go ahead and grind your axes and shake your fists to the heavens all you want. It won't change my reasons.

Calm down sparky. I didn't complain the first time they raised the price.... 8 years after initial launch.... after they added and even rebooted the whole infrastructure for the 360. No complaints here. The fee hasn't reached my pain point yet.

Take a long hard look in the mirror (and at my statement highlighted above). You are the one that seems to be disrespecting other peoples opinions. You could easily just leave people to pay for Live because they want to. But you don't. You're apparently on some sort of evangelical crusade to ridicule Live subscribers into falling in line with your agenda.

I say live and let live. You like PSN. Fine, go play it. I know I do when I'm in the mood. I like XBL better though, so I'll go play that and playt it more often. You need to stop acting like this is some monumentally critical issue. It really isn't. It's video games. Entertainment. Luxury.

I think people around here need to take a step back and gain some perspective.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]It also doesn't include the price of a launch 360 to go with that Live...

ianuilliam

I know?:roll:

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]PS3 users pay 0.00$ a week to game online. PC users pay 0.00$ a week to game online. Wii users pay 0.00$ a week to game online. PSP users pay 0.00$ a week to game online. DS users pay 0.00$ a week to game online.waltefmoney

What if you're playing a p2p MMO?

Just like the Xbox, you still have to pay an additional subscription fee.

Very poor arguement.

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

[QUOTE="POPEYE1716"]

and buy your comment how old are you. PSN is equal to Live now. the re is no justification to pay 60 dollars a year.

Nov.22 2005 -Dec. 31, 2010

5yrs x 50.00=250.00 + cost of console= way more then the asking price of the launch ps3. And M$ is still squeezing money out of you.

DroidPhysX

Wait PSN is = to Live now:roll: let me go turn my PS3 on wait hu:?

PSN ID?

Check you inbox

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]if you have payed for xbl since launch thats 250, i didn't. i used that 250 to buy a new xbox for when mine broke.. either way your moneys going to microsoft.DroidPhysX

$460....doesnt match the PS3s price tag at launch

Does it matter if it matches the price tag at launch?! $460!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Might as well of held off the Xbox for a couple years and got a PC instead.

if you want the best get every system :Pohthemanatee

^

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you.foxhound_fox

Any hobby can be expensive depending on how much you're into it. Gaming is no different. The point is, if someone's going to partake in the hobby, it's not unreasonable to expect them to know what it entails. If the XBL fee is some sort of surprise, it's no fault of the hobby or, in this case, the fault of a service. It's all on the end user.

Dude, if you don't want to pay for Live, more power to you. Your reasons are valid for you and that's fine. It's not my job to convince you otherwise. You're grown and can make your own decisions. I just ask that some of these religiously fired up XBL opponents offer up the same type of courtesy. Fat chance, I know, but it has to be said.

Just realize that I have different reasons the point me in a direction you're not going.

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

That's a perfect illustration of how entitled some gamers feel.

Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you.

I pay for Live because I like its features. I could easily just switch over to PSN, but I don't. There's more to value than a simple price tag. I enjoy using the party system, cross game chat, cross game invites and game launching at the OS level. I like the attention given by the community managers and policy enforcement staff. But hey, those are my reasons that I won't impose on anyone else.

For some reason, the anti-XBL contingent can't seem to live and let live. So go ahead and grind your axes and shake your fists to the heavens all you want. It won't change my reasons.

VoodooHak

Calm down sparky. I didn't complain the first time they raised the price.... 8 years after initial launch.... after they added and even rebooted the whole infrastructure for the 360. No complaints here. The fee hasn't reached my pain point yet.

Take a long hard look in the mirror (and at my statement highlighted above). You are the one that seems to be disrespecting other peoples opinions. You could easily just leave people to pay for Live because they want to. But you don't. You're apparently on some sort of evangelical crusade to ridicule Live subscribers into falling in line with your agenda.

I say live and let live. You like PSN. Fine, go play it. I know I do when I'm in the mood. I like XBL better though, so I'll go play that and playt it more often. You need to stop acting like this is some monumentally critical issue. It really isn't. It's video games. Entertainment. Luxury.

I think people around here need to take a step back and gain some perspective.

I think he might have took some offense on the
"Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you."
portion, I know i did but i didnt want to go on about it. As I said in a previous post that 60 bucks got me a few games on steam, I have no problems with live, I used to subscribe when i was in college. I get that you like live over psn and steam alot of people do, just like some people enjoy psn and steam over live, but saying if 60 bucks is a financial burden that should be an indication that gaming isnt for your is some what insulting.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] Well then, you have no right to complain if they decided to hike to price to $10 again. After all, we shouldn't be in gaming if we can't even afford price hikes, right? And BTW you have no right to decide who should be gaming or not. You'd better respect other people's opinions, just because you can pony up any amount of money they demand of you, doesn't mean anyone should.Majordutch201

Calm down sparky. I didn't complain the first time they raised the price.... 8 years after initial launch.... after they added and even rebooted the whole infrastructure for the 360. No complaints here. The fee hasn't reached my pain point yet.

Take a long hard look in the mirror (and at my statement highlighted above). You are the one that seems to be disrespecting other peoples opinions. You could easily just leave people to pay for Live because they want to. But you don't. You're apparently on some sort of evangelical crusade to ridicule Live subscribers into falling in line with your agenda.

I say live and let live. You like PSN. Fine, go play it. I know I do when I'm in the mood. I like XBL better though, so I'll go play that and playt it more often. You need to stop acting like this is some monumentally critical issue. It really isn't. It's video games. Entertainment. Luxury.

I think people around here need to take a step back and gain some perspective.

I think he might have took some offense on the
"Sorry to break it to you folks, but gaming is an expensive hobby. If $60/year is a financial burden, then maybe gaming isn't the right hobby for you."
portion, I know i did but i didnt want to go on about it. As I said in a previous post that 60 bucks got me a few games on steam, I have no problems with live, I used to subscribe when i was in college. I get that you like live over psn and steam alot of people do, just like some people enjoy psn and steam over live, but saying if 60 bucks is a financial burden that should be an indication that gaming isnt for your is some what insulting.

Really?

People in this very thread have called each other racists, frat boys, idiots, lazy bums, etc. and have posted at least one sarcastic cartoon.... and you're going to knock me for a much, MUCH more polite statement?

Really?

Inb4"it's teh principul"

Verge_6

Quality costs money. Get jobs cows.

yeah but if you like add up your subscription over like 10 years its like near $500 or something. that $500 could of been spent on something else

Vinegar_Strokes

.. We can say that for any expense out there.. No matter how small, if we some how added it up over a random long period..

[QUOTE="Skilltrocity"]Overpriced. $1 a week comes out to $52. That's too much. You could have bought Harmonix instead and saved $2.Locutus_Picard

The person that has more fun? After all the main thing is enjoyment..

[QUOTE="Skilltrocity"]Overpriced. $1 a week comes out to $52. That's too much. You could have bought Harmonix instead and saved $2.Locutus_Picard

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]if you have payed for xbl since launch thats 250, i didn't. i used that 250 to buy a new xbox for when mine broke.. either way your moneys going to microsoft.DroidPhysX

$460....doesnt match the PS3s price tag at launch

It's not the price that bothers me, but that I am forced to pay for something that is free on all other gaming systems. I admit, if I had the money to buy a 360 in the first place I would probably pay for Live.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Domobomb"]

Yea... I thought it was obvious.

ender2009

The funniest thing about all of this to me is that Microsoft is most likely making more than enough money from the advertisements scattered all across the cluttered dashboard to cover the costs of running XBL and they make you pay anyways. Gotta love capitalism. ;)Messiahbolical-

With all the talk of how bad Xbox Live is and how it is not worth it. But then you say wait:roll: I'm a gamer and I want the best should I even be in gaming if I can not pay $1.00 a week:?

Thought of the day here people lets get realistic about this.

MortgageMan007

I dont think its worth the money and I dont think its that much better then psn just a bit.

if you want the best get every system :Pohthemanatee

With all the talk of how bad Xbox Live is and how it is not worth it. But then you say wait:roll: I'm a gamer and I want the best should I even be in gaming if I can not pay $1.00 a week:?

Thought of the day here people lets get realistic about this.

MortgageMan007

[QUOTE="ender2009"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] Well, ya didn't really make it obvious in your opening statement there. ;)Verge_6

In relation to the thread, I don't see how it can be misinterpreted. Then again, this is system wars. :roll:

A new game costs 50-60$ which is what 1 year of xbox live costs (assuming you dont search for deals where it can get a lot cheaper like someone mentioned earlier in the thread). 1 game and one year of xbox live can have a lot of longetivity, far more than several games combined. While I dont see myself paying for Xbox live I can see why others would want to. The total ammount of enjoyment we get from the money we spend is what matters in the end anyway, and if one gets his money's worth from Xbox live, why should he not have it.

Of course I think it is bad that they charge people for something that everyone else offers for free, but I must say it could be much worse (like charging for even using the console). Hell in my country just owning a TV, monitor or camera and soon to be mobile phone as well means you have to pay a fee of around 260$ a year or be charged a fine.

Most people pay the 50 or 60 in one lump sum. So... You're really paying 50-60 dollars a day once. :P

[QUOTE="ender2009"][QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

PC does get a lot of complaints thoguh with some gamers always saying they hate having to mod or DL mods just to play in the server for that game. PC has a lot of downsights also.

MortgageMan007

Yeah I have seen many complaints about hating to have to always patch and mod to play some games in servers running mods all the time.

Not first hand experience, dont judge things you know nothing about

[QUOTE="MortgageMan007"]

[QUOTE="ender2009"] Wut.firefluff3

Yeah I have seen many complaints about hating to have to always patch and mod to play some games in servers running mods all the time.

Not first hand experience, dont judge things you know nothing about

I know plenty. I have been PC gaming for 15 years easy online and longer real old school.