oh snap Eurogamer reviews Infinite Undiscovery lol

"Eurogamer writes: "That title. I mean, really. Are they even trying to make sense, or do Japanese RPG developers just shove random English words together these days and hope for the best? Will next year see the release of a 60-hour epic called Melancholy Windsock Concerto? Decoding its semantic tangle, I can only surmise than an "infinite undiscovery" refers a long-winded and fruitless task that feels like it'll never end. And, funnily enough, that's almost the perfect description of this deeply flawed effort from Star Ocean creator tri-Ace.

According to the pre-release hullabaloo, the idea was to create a revolutionary game that would shake up the staid world of JRPG with its bold ideas. What we've ended up with is a game that wallows in the exact same narrative clichés as its peers, while its attempts to break out of the traditions of turn-based combat and linear progression are either non-existent or hopelessly fumbled."

Score 5/10:|:lol:

source.

it's nice to seem them complain about the name for 1/3 of the rewview :roll: but they think final fantasy 13 is the best name ever right? personally I would've rated this game 8/10; it's so much better then what people say.

jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsmephisto_11

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectshakanakumono

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsmephisto_11

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsmephisto_11

Final Fantasy XII did that, and turned what had the potential to be a wonderful experience into something horribly boring IMO. Im happy for JRPGs to stay as they are, at least that way i know what im buying.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsDahaka-UK

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..)

The Witcher, Neverwinter Nights 2, Dragon Age.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectshakanakumono

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

Rather a good non-jrpg than a dreadful jrpg.

I enjoy bad games wahoo :D

Only games that I have really enjoy that got 9.0+ have been Orange Box(because of Team Fortress 2) and Halo 3(multiplayer only, felt like I was forcing my waythrough campaign).

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsDahaka-UK

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Lol you put Mass Effect in there...yeah right oh and haha you put two games from the same exact devs. How desperate to prove you a point. Anyway, he's right, JRPGs are the same ol same ol, just like anime.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsmephisto_11

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Almost none of the FF play the same

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsIlived

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Lol you put Mass Effect in there...yeah right oh and haha you put two games from the same exact devs. How desperate to prove you a point. Anyway, he's right, JRPGs are the same ol same ol, just like anime.

Mass Effect is a good original game but it is however a poor RPG no matter which way you throw it.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsDahaka-UK

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Oblivion was awesome, Mass Effect was awesome, and Fallout 3 will likely be awesome.

When is the last time a AAA-quality JRPG was released?

The genre is getting stale, and it shows. Hopefully FFXIII turns the trend around.

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsnicenator

Final Fantasy XII did that, and turned what had the potential to be a wonderful experience into something horribly boring IMO. Im happy for JRPGs to stay as they are, at least that way i know what im buying.

I loved final fantasy 12.What is wrong with you guys every game which is loved by lots of people ,is rated extremely high and is a multi platinum seller gets lot of hate on SW. GTA4,halo3,mgs4.... list goes on

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsRuprechtMonkey

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Oblivion was awesome, Mass Effect was awesome, and Fallout 3 will likely be awesome.

When is the last time a AAA-quality JRPG was released?

The genre is getting stale, and it shows. Hopefully FFXIII turns the trend around.

Awesome? You are making me vomit. Oblivion is the worst RPG I have ever played. After you exit the first dungeon there's not much going for the game. It might as well be called "The Elder Scrolls: The Dark Brotherhood".

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsleejohnson7

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Oblivion was awesome, Mass Effect was awesome, and Fallout 3 will likely be awesome.

When is the last time a AAA-quality JRPG was released?

The genre is getting stale, and it shows. Hopefully FFXIII turns the trend around.

Awesome? You are making me vomit. Oblivion is the worst RPG I have ever played. After you exit the first dungeon there's not much going for the game. It might as well be called "The Elder Scrolls: The Dark Brotherhood".

"You are making me vomit." Hahaha.

The dude above me really hit the nail on the head. Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated (like FF12.)

Oblivion was an excellent game, the vast majority of critics and consumers agree with me. I've been playing the ES series since Arena, and while I would've preffered the lack of a levelling system as it was in Oblivion and more vairedm environments (like those in Morrowind, Shivering Isles did it right though,) I loved it. "Worst RPG I ever played." Lol.

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

RuprechtMonkey

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsRuprechtMonkey

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Oblivion was awesome, Mass Effect was awesome, and Fallout 3 will likely be awesome.

When is the last time a AAA-quality JRPG was released?

The genre is getting stale, and it shows. Hopefully FFXIII turns the trend around.

Awesome? You are making me vomit. Oblivion is the worst RPG I have ever played. After you exit the first dungeon there's not much going for the game. It might as well be called "The Elder Scrolls: The Dark Brotherhood".

"You are making me vomit." Hahaha.

The dude above me really hit the nail on the head. Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated (like FF12.)

Oblivion was an excellent game, the vast majority of critics and consumers agree with me. I've been playing the ES series since Arena, and while I would've preffered the lack of a levelling system as it was in Oblivion and more vairedm environments (like those in Morrowind, Shivering Isles did it right though,) I loved it. "Worst RPG I ever played." Lol.

Oblivion has a leveling system that doesn't quite work well and a story which is beaten by the majority of sidequests, that in my book is one shallow RPG. At least Mass Effect had a decent storyline.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

angelkimne

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

Sounds like every JRPG in existence.:lol:BioShockOwnz

There's lots of great JRPGs, you just have poor taste.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

RuprechtMonkey

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

It's the best selling console game of all time.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

RuprechtMonkey

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

Ocarina of Time

Mario 64

Half-Life

Banjo Kazooie

Goldeneye

Chrono series

Nights: Into Dreams(Sega Saturn one)

Super Mario Brothers 3

System Shock

Diablo II

I could go on...

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

angelkimne

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

It's the best selling console game of all time.

I'm talking about hate in System Wars.

If System Wars had existed during the time of SMB or SMW it would have most certainly got a huge amount of hate, it's the nature of fanboys. There has never been a game in this forum that was exempt from hate, there won't ever be.

I'm talking about hate in System Wars.

If System Wars had existed during the time of SMB or SMW it would have most certainly got a huge amount of hate, it's the nature of fanboys. There has never been a game in this forum that was exempt from hate, there won't ever be.

RuprechtMonkey

What about The Orange Box ???

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

spinecaton

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

Ocarina of Time

Mario 64

Half-Life

Banjo Kazooie

Goldeneye

Chrono series

Nights: Into Dreams(Sega Saturn one)

Super Mario Brothers 3

System Shock

Diablo II

I could go on...

Even though those games were all relreased before System Wars, it's easy to find people bashing any of them. I searched for Ocarina, this was the first thread that came up.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26340361

First thread that came up for Mario 64:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26254104

You can do that for any game on that list.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

I'm talking about hate in System Wars.

If System Wars had existed during the time of SMB or SMW it would have most certainly got a huge amount of hate, it's the nature of fanboys. There has never been a game in this forum that was exempt from hate, there won't ever be.

angelkimne

What about The Orange Box ???

I've seen many threads hating on HL2 and TF2.

First thing that came up when I searched, took 2 seconds. You could find thousands of these types of threads.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26324400&page=0

[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

RuprechtMonkey

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

Ocarina of Time

Mario 64

Half-Life

Banjo Kazooie

Goldeneye

Chrono series

Nights: Into Dreams(Sega Saturn one)

Super Mario Brothers 3

System Shock

Diablo II

I could go on...

Even though those games were all relreased before System Wars, it's easy to find people bashing any of them. I searched for Ocarina, this was the first thread that came up.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26340361

First thread that came up for Mario 64:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26254104

You can do that for any game on that list.

A game will always receive flak no matter what, so if you are saying absolutely zero hate then that is impossible. However if you look at the majority then you will realize that the games I listed still stand true.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

Any game that is very highly rated and sells a bunch will be hated

spinecaton

OK. I can't think of one example.

Can you?

Ocarina of Time

Mario 64

Half-Life

Banjo Kazooie

Goldeneye

Chrono series

Nights: Into Dreams(Sega Saturn one)

Super Mario Brothers 3

System Shock

Diablo II

I could go on...

Even though those games were all relreased before System Wars, it's easy to find people bashing any of them. I searched for Ocarina, this was the first thread that came up.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26340361

First thread that came up for Mario 64:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26254104

You can do that for any game on that list.

A game will always receive flak no matter what, so if you are saying absolutely zero hate then that is impossible. However if you look at the majority then you will realize that the games I listed still stand true.

Like I said, if any of those games were released when System Wars was in full swing they would've got enormous amounts of hate from other fanboy factions.

And NiGHTS, even back in the day, wasn't very good.

I've seen many threads hating on HL2 and TF2.

First thing that came up when I searched, took 2 seconds. You could find thousands of these types of threads.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26324400&page=0

RuprechtMonkey

I know you can pick out threads. But ALL successful games get hate on SW, it's how much that matters.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

I've seen many threads hating on HL2 and TF2.

First thing that came up when I searched, took 2 seconds. You could find thousands of these types of threads.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26324400&page=0

angelkimne

I know you can pick out threads. But ALL successful games get hate on SW, it's how much that matters.

The more platforms a game is on, the less hate it receives (because a fanboy is not likely to rag on a game on his "System of choice."

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

I've seen many threads hating on HL2 and TF2.

First thing that came up when I searched, took 2 seconds. You could find thousands of these types of threads.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26324400&page=0

angelkimne

I know you can pick out threads. But ALL successful games get hate on SW, it's how much that matters.

That was his point

That was his point

HarlockJC

That's OK. Let's all oil wrestle.

I freaking told all of you many times this game wouldn't deliver. Tri-Ace just doesn't have it anymore, PERIOD.

Anyone hyping SO4 is simply digging their graves.

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Iceman2911

ehm, no. the problem is that everybody compares every jrpg with a multi-million-budget series (FF). if people stopped that they wouldn't get dissapointed.

[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Cyberfairy

ehm, no. the problem is that everybody compares every jrpg with a multi-million-budget series (FF). if people stopped that they wouldn't get dissapointed.

Eternal Sonata and TS are proof that not every jrpg game is compared to FF.

[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Cyberfairy

ehm, no. the problem is that everybody compares every jrpg with a multi-million-budget series (FF). if people stopped that they wouldn't get dissapointed.

Yeah but FF will probaly be the only AAA jrpg to comeout this gen on gs.

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Iceman2911