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#51 Iceman2911
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It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Shafftehr



That's like saying it's up to Halo to save FPS's... The RPG genre has lots of good games - western and eastern - to have to rely on the equivalent of a Hollywood summer action flick to save it. Both of those games are made to pander to the masses in the most generic, cliched, and saleable ways manageable. Doesn't mean they are bad games, but boy, they aren't saving anything - they're a symptom of gaming's slow march to mass-market swill. They themselves aren't there yet by any stretch at least.

review wise

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#52 Shafftehr
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review wise

Iceman2911


Meh, I don't really care about that. But, whatever.
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#53 BioShockOwnz
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It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Iceman2911

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

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#54 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

BioShockOwnz

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

and ps3 owners get everything but any way FF12 scored why higher than Lo everywhere and is probaly better.Also expecting LO2 to be better than FF13 is just setting yourself up for dissapoint.

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#55 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

BioShockOwnz

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

Iceman2911 was talking about FF vs other RPGS

not ps3 vs 360 crap

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#56 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Giancar

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

Iceman2911 was talking about FF vs other RPGS

not ps3 vs 360 crap

Atleast someone knew what I was talking about.

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#57 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]jrpgs need a radical redesign in all aspectsRuprechtMonkey

What, so they're not JRPGs anymore?

so that they aren't cliche and play exactly the same way as they did 10 years ago.

Just like WRPGs right? Except WRPGs are 100 times more shallow than before. (Oblivion/Fallout3/Mass Effect..) It actually has nothing to do with playing like they did 10 years. It's just a bad overall JRPG. If it was on par with the likes of FF7/8/9/Chrono Series.. The reviews scores would of sky rocketed.

Oblivion was awesome, Mass Effect was awesome, and Fallout 3 will likely be awesome.

When is the last time a AAA-quality JRPG was released?

The genre is getting stale, and it shows. Hopefully FFXIII turns the trend around.

according to gamespot. ff12 and crisis core were AAA.

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#58 Iceman2911
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Why do people seem to hate FF12 it was a good game the main characters weren't that memorable besides the bunny girl and Balthier.FF13 is using a upgraded version of the battle system in FF12.
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#59 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Iceman2911

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

and ps3 owners get everything but any way FF12 scored why higher than Lo everywhere and is probaly better.Also expecting LO2 to be better than FF13 is just setting yourself up for dissapoint.

FFXII was just mediocre to the core. I don't care what the review score was. I guess that means Assassin's Creed is better than 90% of other games, right? I mean, reviews are all of a sudden factual opinions, right? FFXII had an awful combat system. FF has been on the decline for the last good many years. Long live FFX.

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#60 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

BioShockOwnz

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

and ps3 owners get everything but any way FF12 scored why higher than Lo everywhere and is probaly better.Also expecting LO2 to be better than FF13 is just setting yourself up for dissapoint.

FFXII was just mediocre to the core. I don't care what the review score was. I guess that means Assassin's Creed is better than 90% of other games, right? I mean, reviews are all of a sudden factual opinions, right? FFXII had an awful combat system. FF has been on the decline for the last good many years. Long live FFX.

blahh blahh opinons blah blah blah FF12 sucks blahhh blahhh this is all I hear from you man this is sw get over it I liked the combat system you don't so what but when it comes to reviews FF12 owns.

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#61 Cyberfairy
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Iceman2911

ehm, no. the problem is that everybody compares every jrpg with a multi-million-budget series (FF). if people stopped that they wouldn't get dissapointed.

Eternal Sonata and TS are proof that not every jrpg game is compared to FF.

have you played eternal sonata? and played infinite undiscovery and read the reviews about IU too? they complain that IU is short, repititve, bad voice acting, dissapointing story, bad side quests, bad graphics and so on. frankly I don't agree withanything of that except that IU is pretty short. the problem is; eternal sonata have all these problems too and if not worse too. ES is overrated. Or IU is underrated.

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#62 footfoe2
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euro gamer is terrible they gave MGS4 a 8 or something
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#63 Marcus-360
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at lest it scored better then the PS3 version.

Heres a sentence from the PS3 review:

"Allthough there are mixed reviews on the 360 version of Infinite Undiscovery, they are nothing compared to the PS3 version. We tried to play the PS3 version when we realized that it doesnt exist. And for not existing, we give the PS3 version a 0/10.

another 360 multiplat victory!

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#64 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="Cyberfairy"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Cyberfairy

ehm, no. the problem is that everybody compares every jrpg with a multi-million-budget series (FF). if people stopped that they wouldn't get dissapointed.

Eternal Sonata and TS are proof that not every jrpg game is compared to FF.

have you played eternal sonata? and played infinite undiscovery and read the reviews about IU too? they complain that IU is short, repititve, bad voice acting, dissapointing story, bad side quests, bad graphics and so on. frankly I don't agree withanything of that except that IU is pretty short. the problem is; eternal sonata have all these problems too and if not worse too. ES is overrated. Or IU is underrated.



You've played both? Mass Effect suffered from many of the same problems as games that got a much lower rating, but because the various positive elements came together so strongly, it still pulled a 8.5. ES had its shortcomings, but the game was very charming, the combat system was actually very fun, and the story had its moments. IU, while having several of the same major shortcomings, may be totally lacking in the strengths that ES had.
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#65 Mau-Justice
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Not that I think the game is good, because I didn't like it. But I will never read a Eurogamer review if that pathetic ramble is actually from their review.

They shouldn't even call their people reviewers, just "discussers"

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#66 blitzkid1
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I chose the right jrpg Tales ftw.
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#67 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

That was his point

angelkimne

Wow.. lol. How he hell did I manage too contradict myself like that :? *self facepalm*

How can you self-facepalm yourself?

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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="Cyberfairy"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Shafftehr

ehm, no. the problem is that everybody compares every jrpg with a multi-million-budget series (FF). if people stopped that they wouldn't get dissapointed.

Eternal Sonata and TS are proof that not every jrpg game is compared to FF.

have you played eternal sonata? and played infinite undiscovery and read the reviews about IU too? they complain that IU is short, repititve, bad voice acting, dissapointing story, bad side quests, bad graphics and so on. frankly I don't agree withanything of that except that IU is pretty short. the problem is; eternal sonata have all these problems too and if not worse too. ES is overrated. Or IU is underrated.



You've played both? Mass Effect suffered from many of the same problems as games that got a much lower rating, but because the various positive elements came together so strongly, it still pulled a 8.5. ES had its shortcomings, but the game was very charming, the combat system was actually very fun, and the story had its moments. IU, while having several of the same major shortcomings, may be totally lacking in the strengths that ES had.

yes I have played both. ES was incredble repetitive with its uninspired dungeons, confusing story and easy combat wich had no depth except the block feature.

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#69 Iceman2911
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I chose the right jrpg Tales ftw.blitzkid1

You was hyping iu until it flopped

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#70 ReverseCycology
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I hope your "lol" is mostly going towards Eurogamer because if I remember correctly they gave MGS4 an 8. :|

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#71 Iceman2911
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I hope your "lol" is mostly going towards Eurogamer because if I remember correctly they gave MGS4 an 8. :|

ReverseCycology

whats wrong with a 8 they gave gears of war a 8

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#72 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I hope your "lol" is mostly going towards Eurogamer because if I remember correctly they gave MGS4 an 8. :|

Iceman2911

whats wrong with a 8 they gave gears of war a 8

I'm not saying anything is wrong with an 8, it's just MGS4 got mostly 10 in lots of websites but an 8 there. So it's like they chopped off 2 points from MGS4, so most likely they chopped off a couple points from Infinite Undiscovery. Then again, I'm not sure what's the average score for IU right now and if this Eurogamer score is the lowest so far.

Also a lil bit off topic, but Chuck "the ICEMAN" Liddell got KTFO last night.

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I'm wondering how this game will be recieved in Japan, More Xbox sell outs? Doubt it but it should still sell fairly well.
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#74 Hexagon_777
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MGS4 Scores

The above pie chart is for MGS4. 25.35% of the review scores are in the 80% area. Eurogamer is part of that 25.35%. Stop the hating.
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#75 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I hope your "lol" is mostly going towards Eurogamer because if I remember correctly they gave MGS4 an 8. :|

ReverseCycology

whats wrong with a 8 they gave gears of war a 8

I'm not saying anything is wrong with an 8, it's just MGS4 got mostly 10 in lots of websites but an 8 there. So it's like they chopped off 2 points from MGS4, so most likely they chopped off a couple points from Infinite Undiscovery. Then again, I'm not sure what's the average score for IU right now and if this Eurogamer score is the lowest so far.

Also a lil bit off topic, but Chuck "the ICEMAN" Liddell got KTFO last night.

thats what he get for inpersonationg my name

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#76 BioShockOwnz
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Almost as good as Resistance...

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=74110&page=2

:D

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From a person who actually has played it: This game is fun, this game is good. This game deserves a higher score. Sure the voice acting may suck, sure there is slowdown, but in terms of JRPGs it is probably one of the ones with the most unique base gameplay and story that I've seen in awhile, with tons of unique characters. In the words of a preview of the game, "This game is the next Suikoden". And you know what? I strongly agree with that statement. It lacks production values, it has its problems, but at the end of the day its a good experience for a JRPG game. I realized just how great the core game was when I muted my TV and took the time to read the dialogue and watch the animations and character interactions. The core game itself is good, it is just the horrible voice acting that tends to take away that suspension of disbelief that is so important to JRPG games. If you can manage to forgive the voice acting, which isn't necsesarily an easy task, then you can come to appreciate what Tri-Ace was attempting to do with this game.
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#78 lawlessx
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I chose the right jrpg Tales ftw.blitzkid1

blitzkid, you hyped both of them and you know it.

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#79 lawlessx
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Almost as good as Resistance...

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=74110&page=2

:D

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ouch... :P

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yes I have played both. ES was incredble repetitive with its uninspired dungeons, confusing story and easy combat wich had no depth except the block feature.

Cyberfairy


Thanks for your opinion. I enjoyed it, and 95% chance I'm more clever than you are, so I can happily dismiss everything you say now. Have a good one ;)
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ouch doesnt sound to good.
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#82 Cicatraz_ESP
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

BioShockOwnz

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

What made you even bring up 360 having both? It's like your trying to indiscrimately troll.
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#83 Cicatraz_ESP
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[QUOTE="Iceman2911"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I hope your "lol" is mostly going towards Eurogamer because if I remember correctly they gave MGS4 an 8. :|

ReverseCycology

whats wrong with a 8 they gave gears of war a 8

I'm not saying anything is wrong with an 8, it's just MGS4 got mostly 10 in lots of websites but an 8 there. So it's like they chopped off 2 points from MGS4, so most likely they chopped off a couple points from Infinite Undiscovery. Then again, I'm not sure what's the average score for IU right now and if this Eurogamer score is the lowest so far.

Also a lil bit off topic, but Chuck "the ICEMAN" Liddell got KTFO last night.

So you're saying they're levereging scores by giving IU 2 points less than it should of got since they did it to MGS? Ummm....conspiracy FTW!
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#84 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Iceman2911"]

It is up to FF to save jrpgs again.

Cicatraz_ESP

LO is a much better game than FFXII, so I'm expecting LO2 to be better than FFXIII. Hey, but then again, Xbox 360 owners get both, so it really doesn't matter, I guess.

What made you even bring up 360 having both? It's like your trying to indiscrimately troll.

Because that's reality. 360 has both, PS3 does not. It's not about trolling, it's about being honest with what each system brings to the table.

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#85 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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People hyped this, did they not?

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#86 BioShockOwnz
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People hyped this, did they not?

kool-aids

Yeah, all 10 of them.

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#87 -Skyfall
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People hyped this, did they not?

kool-aids

Yeah, aside from the fanatics calling it REVOLUTIONARY, IU sat at about AA hype.

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#88 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="kool-aids"]

People hyped this, did they not?

BioShockOwnz

Yeah, all 10 of them.

im one of those 10 :(

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#89 Vrygar777
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How do you compare Oblivion to JRPG's? Whats next, a Halo RPG?(thats not to farfetched by the way)
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#90 Vaasman
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Mass Effect is a good original game but it is however a poor RPG no matter which way you throw it.leejohnson7
Mass Effect is much more of and RPG that most JRPG's. In most JRPG's you have little control over your character's personality or actions. You can never be a bad guy and never control the flow of the story. Mass Effect allows you to choose how most events go, and allows lots of customization and being a jerk when you want.
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#91 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]

People hyped this, did they not?

lawlessx

Yeah, all 10 of them.

im one of those 10 :(

Same here. :(

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#92 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]Mass Effect is a good original game but it is however a poor RPG no matter which way you throw it.Vaasman
Mass Effect is much more of and RPG that most JRPG's. In most JRPG's you have little control over your character's personality or actions. You can never be a bad guy and never control the flow of the story. Mass Effect allows you to choose how most events go, and allows lots of customization and being a jerk when you want.

i was a jerk 99.9% of the time 8)

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#93 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]Mass Effect is a good original game but it is however a poor RPG no matter which way you throw it.lawlessx

Mass Effect is much more of and RPG that most JRPG's. In most JRPG's you have little control over your character's personality or actions. You can never be a bad guy and never control the flow of the story. Mass Effect allows you to choose how most events go, and allows lots of customization and being a jerk when you want.

i was a jerk 99.9% of the time 8)

I know what's more fun than **** slapping the reporter down for asking too many questions?
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#94 naruto7777
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this is terrible
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#95 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]

People hyped this, did they not?

BioShockOwnz

Yeah, all 10 of them.

im one of those 10 :(

Same here. :(

Lol. I didnt mean to sound like a fanboy, I dont like Jrpg's, i just wanted to see if my sig updated.

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#96 blushield
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I got completely owned on this game. I was sure this would be great given the devs and the language being used to describe it. It's a shame it turned out to be so bad

Guess it's up to the PS3 and/or Wii to save console RPGs (the PSP and DS already saved RPGs in general)

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#97 Vandalvideo
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I got completely owned on this game. I was sure this would be great given the devs and the language being used to describe it. It's a shame it turned out to be so badblushield
It isn't really *that* bad of a JRPG. I mean, if you're able to look past the voice acting then you'll see a diamond in the rough. That is a big if though. The voice acting can really block willful suspension of disbelief sometime. I've been drawn out of the game sometimes by the incredibly bad voice over. But when I started translating it into different languages in my head and pretending it wasn't english ES WAR WUNDERBAR! J'em c'est.
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#98 blushield
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It isn't really *that* bad of a JRPG. I mean, if you're able to look past the voice acting then you'll see a diamond in the rough. That is a big if though. The voice acting can really block willful suspension of disbelief sometime. I've been drawn out of the game sometimes by the incredibly bad voice over. But when I started translating it into different languages in my head and pretending it wasn't english ES WAR WUNDERBAR! J'em c'est.Vandalvideo

It's simply not upto par. Even by Tri-Ace's own standards it's very poor, compare it to a fantastic game like VP2

I still have faith in Star Ocean 4 but for now I'll stick to handhelds. Word of warning though, the valkyrie prfile game on the DS is looking REALLY bad

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#99 Vandalvideo
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It's simply not upto par. Even by Tri-Ace's own standards it's very poor, compare it to a fantastic game like VP2I still have faith in Star Ocean 4 but for now I'll stick to handhelds. Word of warning though, the valkyrie prfile game on the DS is looking REALLY bad blushield
Oh but it is up to par, the english voice acting just ruined that. Like I said, if you're able to look past the VO, you're able to see the gem in the game, that is a BIG if.
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#100 blushield
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Oh but it is up to par, the english voice acting just ruined that. Like I said, if you're able to look past the VO, you're able to see the gem in the game, that is a BIG if.Vandalvideo

We've had this conversation before about another game , and l it did not end well. Let's just agree to disagree about the quality of the game

I Agree with the voiceacing crack, though it's expectedin JRPGs. See the last gen tales games, Blue Dragon etc

The best translation I've seen recently was Final Fantasy 12. It was translated by the Alexander guy who translated Phoenix Wright