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#1 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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So I recently took part in the Assassins Creed Odyssey streaming beta for Google's "Project Stream" service. I was as skeptical as the next gamer, thinking, "this is gonna be garbage."

Um... That Onlive fanboy might have been on to something... This sh*t works!!! Lets break it down

My internet,


We have shit for water, but apparently the internet is ok...

Seriously though, the majority of the U.S. must have something comparable. I'm just an average Joe consumer with mid range internet capabilities...

I noticed no input lag when playing the game. I played wired on my office PC as well as on wifi on my gameroom, 4K machine. The game ran like a champ! The only compromise I ever observed was resolution and video quality. The second I saw it, I thought to myself, "is this worse than base PS4 or Xbox One gamers are seeing?" The answer is, "I don't know." That may not seem convincing, but consider the hardware required. You must at minimum buy a $229.99 console "new" from a major retailer to get one. This game drops resolution when required for performance, 900p in order to run at near 30 fps... That's wild... We are already seeing a case for streaming games vs dedicated hardware! Anything running this version of Googles software should be able to compare...

Is streaming really the future? Are the days of console makers selling hardware at a loss over???

Strap in "hardcore gamers." It's gonna be a wild ride!!!!

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#2 Zero_epyon
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I'm hearing it's pretty good too. Still skeptical until I try it.

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#3 rzxv04
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I never doubted streaming but I am a bit surprised that we're getting "there" faster.

Isn't MS the only one at a huge advantage among the three when it comes to servers/offsite hardware dedicated to streaming?

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#4 JoshRMeyer
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How about streaming plus using a consoles power? Like a hybrid type way. I know it probably wouldn't change input lag, but I really don't see that as a big of problem as people say.

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#5 freedomfreak
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Enjoy streaming your games.

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#6 Zappat
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Of course it is the future, anyone who doubted that is a fool. Technology keeps advancing and quality with it. Funny how 6 months ago everyone was making fun of Sony because of doing PSNow and now everyone will start praising streaming games.

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#7 BassMan
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Is it at least streaming the PC version maxed out at 60fps?

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#8 mandzilla  Moderator
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Well the concept is cool, and the leaps in technology which have been made are certainly impressive.

Nevertheless, I don't want to be in a situation where I have nothing to play simply because my internet goes down. Also, it's pretty nice to actually own games imo. I really hope it isn't the future of gaming.

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#9  Edited By locus-solus
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I really hope gaming doesn't ever go exclusively streaming, performance and image quality will go down the drain. streaming providers will cut as many corners as possible to maximize profit Hardware, Space, and Power are expensive!

Also if games are only available in the cloud streaming only games will eventually start becoming inaccessible.

Streaming will also kill used games but I predict you are still going to need to buy a license to play Individual games on top of monthly fees.

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#10 DragonfireXZ95
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Your internet is wayyyy above average. I checked average speeds for 2017, and they're terrible. I'm pretty sure this is still close to the average.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/467217/average-internet-connection-speed-by-state/

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#11 FireEmblem_Man
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@goldenelementxl: You mean @Rikusaki?

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#13  Edited By Litchie
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Yeah, the only compromise is that it looks like shit. LOL

Also, your internet speed is very fast. I currently know of no one who has such a fast connection. Really fucking far from the average joe's speed.

I don't doubt streaming will only become bigger in the future. But there's still a long way to go.

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#14 HitmanActual
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TC needs to step out in the real world. Average internet speed my ass.

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#15  Edited By ellos
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It seems ok but I would say your stats are probably not of an avarage consumer. Not in canada at least. Your testing is also a bit limited at the moment. Can streaming infrastructure truly handle the majority of the industry moving into it. How long have you lived with it. How are MP games, fighters, fast action games faring. Games that have to register multiple input from the user etc etc. I'm a bit skeptical but I feel like some types of games will be a problem.

I believe console manufactures have stopped selling consoles at a loss. Maybe your right streaming is ready to replace your home hardware unless consoles truly go back to pushing things ahead of streaming capability. Things such as resolution and framerate. Have the home hardware do 4k 60 at best. while the stack of streaming hardware be something weaker to just handle the streaming capability of 1080p 60. Costly as a whole but weaker to manufacture versions Just enough for streaming.

I dont know this is my secret wish that the rise of streaming will actually cause a push on home console hardware. I can kinda see MS go this route because Phil Spencer is not f***in around. Sell the home console hardware at a loss but trully show why you should spend $500 on home console. Base is stacked up on blades of streaming hardware while pro is your home console hardware. One thing MS has done better this time around is operate from strength. First they proved that they care about pushing home hardware with the X before introducing streaming as an option. They also keep reminding everyone that there still in the business of making the most powerful next gen console.

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#16 sonny2dap
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I pay over the odds in the UK because I want faster internet speeds and I'm at 150 down dropping to 120-130 at peak, my bro who doesn't is lucky to get 20 at peak times.

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#17 knight-k
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Haha you have 300 Mbps speed, that's not average.

No, streaming is STILL not for most people.

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#18 Daniel_Su123
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@Litchie said:

Yeah, the only compromise is that it looks like shit. LOL

Also, your internet speed is very fast. I currently know of no one who has such a fast connection. Really fucking far from the average joe's speed.

I don't doubt streaming will only become bigger in the future. But there's still a long way to go.

As long as it works and has a good Frame rate and no latency, graphics shouldn't be an issue. People would be fine with 720p - 1080p

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#19 VFighter
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Streaming is NOT the future of gaming, hate to break that to anybody dumb enough to believe it was.

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#20 Litchie
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@vfighter said:

Streaming is NOT the future of gaming, hate to break that to anybody dumb enough to believe it was.

You don't think people's internet connection will ever be enough for gaming via streaming? Bold statement.

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#21  Edited By Daniel_Su123
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@vfighter said:

Streaming is NOT the future of gaming, hate to break that to anybody dumb enough to believe it was.

I disagree, no one is going to want constantly invest money into hardware, they'll rather use streaming and the tech can improve without investing in new hardware.

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#22  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@goldenelementxl: My broad band is fast, but nowhere near that fast. I get 50Mbps - 60 Mbps. Pings great and feels like enough for anything.

Funny thing is, I doubt the input lag of streaming is any worse than the Xbox 360s wireless controller.

Once you play games like Ace Combat 6 for long enough with a wired controller, using the wireless one just seems detached.

I'm not like others either. I've always been interested in streaming.

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#23  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@vfighter: I think there's a place for it. Don't know about 'future'.

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#24 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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With tech giants making such a big push it's only a matter of when, not if.

Mind you that regardless of how important we feel around here truth is casuals are becoming extremely dominant and things like input lag are close to irrelevant.

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#25 EvanTheGamer
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I had OnLive when they gave the year for free, experienced Borderlands Red Faction Guerilla, it was a fun experience and my connection was pretty basic.

It didn't look much better than the console versions but it was still a viable solution.

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#26  Edited By cainetao11
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@zappat said:

Of course it is the future, anyone who doubted that is a fool. Technology keeps advancing and quality with it. Funny how 6 months ago everyone was making fun of Sony because of doing PSNow and now everyone will start praising streaming games.

LOL that goes with anything.

Funny how everyone was so worried about being spied on in their homes and having something listening to them 24/7 when it came to Kinect but majority have a camera on their phones and Amazon Alexa blew up a Christmas ago and it is constantly listening. People bitch about change like a virgin the first time.

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#27  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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@Litchie said:

Yeah, the only compromise is that it looks like shit. LOL

Also, your internet speed is very fast. I currently know of no one who has such a fast connection. Really fucking far from the average joe's speed.

I don't doubt streaming will only become bigger in the future. But there's still a long way to go.

My Wi-Fi is really fast! My Girlfriend needs the fastest internet we have in our home cause she works from home and all of my gaming systems including PC are all Wi-Fi connected. But I sure as hell won't go all game streaming, that's just something I will never do!

And game streaming won't be the future due to other parts of the world doesn't have that kind of Wi-Fi and game companies knows it. It will not be force.

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#28 rzxv04
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afaik it's not just about the maximum connection rated speeds.

We have a 30/3 connection and it's far superior than the 100/10 that we had 200 miles away. 2 different ISPs. Both coax.

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I have an alleged 16 mb connection, but the fastest I've ever downloaded at is about 3.5 mb/sec. Don't think that's fast enough to play a whole game like that. Would these services be able to provide a full speed service? 24/7?

I am still against streaming. Not because I don't think it could do its job well. But it's just another form of DRM, another way for developers to keep you online. If my internet goes out, I can still play AC Odyssey.

Hard drives are inexpensive, storage space is cheap. Streaming is not a smart choice to me.

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#30 Jacknapes
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Streaming is coming, however it won't be for next gen. And as long as they offer the ability to download a game akin to Xbox Game Pass (aka as long as your sub is paid up, you'll continue to access sad games) i'll be ok with it. At present, current internet speeds for many is not suitable for streaming games.

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#31 tdkmillsy
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It will come but only when internet speeds reach the required amount for 75%+ of the people.

5g coming in UK in 2019/2020 that will push broadband providers to increase their speeds.

It might not be that long off.

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#32 xantufrog  Moderator
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@goldenelementxl: "Seriously though, the majority of the U.S. must have something comparable. I'm just an average Joe consumer with mid range internet capabilities..."

Lol, no. 300Mbps download speed is not normal. I'm jealous

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#33 Archangel3371
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I don’t really care how fast the internet gets or how good the quality of streaming gets it is the last way that I want to play my games. I greatly prefer getting my games on a physical format. For me my gaming preference is:

Physical format>>Digital download>>>>>>>>>Streaming.

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#34 sealionact
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@zappat: "Funny how 6 months ago everyone was making fun of Sony because of doing PSNow and now everyone will start praising streaming games."

We werent making fun of Sony for doing psnow, we were making fun of psnow because it was awful in many people's experience. Sony have failed to improve the service, and by allowing downloads, they've more or less admitted that streaming on psnow is below acceptable standards in most cases.

Streaming and digital downloads are the future, and anyone willing to cling to physical copies and 50gb day one patches is going to be disappointed.

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#35 Litchie
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@davillain- said:
@Litchie said:

Yeah, the only compromise is that it looks like shit. LOL

Also, your internet speed is very fast. I currently know of no one who has such a fast connection. Really fucking far from the average joe's speed.

I don't doubt streaming will only become bigger in the future. But there's still a long way to go.

My Wi-Fi is really fast! My Girlfriend needs the fastest internet we have in our home cause she works from home and all of my gaming systems including PC are all Wi-Fi connected. But I sure as hell won't go all game streaming, that's just something I will never do!

And game streaming won't be the future due to other parts of the world doesn't have that kind of Wi-Fi and game companies knows it. It will not be force.

The near future? No, I don't think so either. But come on, be realistic. Internet speed isn't gonna be a problem for people later in the future. Of course more things will be streamed when our connections have improved enough for it, even games. Will streaming games be widely popular in 5 years? No, I don't think so. In 20-50 years though? I think it's very likely. I don't think "other parts of the world not having good enough wifi" will be an everlasting problem on planet earth.

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#36 TryIt
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@goldenelementxl

here is the HUGE problem with that (and I say this as a programmer myself for the past 12 years).

A controlled network demo of proof of concept is very different then 1 million people hitting a server, on that I can assure you with 1000% confidence

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#37 svaubel
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The day gaming goes streaming-only is the day I stop buying new games.

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#38 TryIt
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@svaubel said:

The day gaming goes streaming-only is the day I stop buying new games.

well that is very wise and circular

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#39 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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What kind of Ivory Tower do you live in that you think 300 Mbps is "average" ??? ?

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#40 Sam3231
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@freedomfreak said:

Enjoy streaming your games.

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#41 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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While streaming is certainly PART of the future of gaming I don't see it being the ONLY option to gamers for decades yet.

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#42 TryIt
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@boycie said:

While streaming is certainly PART of the future of gaming I don't see it being the ONLY option to gamers for decades yet.

and there is a difference between being amazed at how awesome streaming works when 10 people are on the server and how it works when there is 1 million

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@tryit said:
@boycie said:

While streaming is certainly PART of the future of gaming I don't see it being the ONLY option to gamers for decades yet.

and there is a difference between being amazed at how awesome streaming works when 10 people are on the server and how it works when there is 1 million

Surely you would just have more than one server.

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#44  Edited By TryIt
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@boycie said:
@tryit said:
@boycie said:

While streaming is certainly PART of the future of gaming I don't see it being the ONLY option to gamers for decades yet.

and there is a difference between being amazed at how awesome streaming works when 10 people are on the server and how it works when there is 1 million

Surely you would just have more than one server.

you are actually smarter then I thought.

That is true..however...let me change it up a bit and make it more exact

'There is a difference between a controlled demo using 10 people connected to a server with everyone no more than a few yards away (or maybe 2 or three in a different state for effect) that is used for the purposes of marketing and that of deploying a nationwide streaming service with millions of people and having that demo does not really demonstrate that you can scale up this solution to that degree as a proof of concept'

basically take what Microsoft showed the public Hololense was like and then compare it to what it ACTUALLY is like, the difference is radical

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#45 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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@boycie said:
@tryit said:
@boycie said:

While streaming is certainly PART of the future of gaming I don't see it being the ONLY option to gamers for decades yet.

and there is a difference between being amazed at how awesome streaming works when 10 people are on the server and how it works when there is 1 million

Surely you would just have more than one server.

Even a sizeable network of servers can handle only so much with millions of active players. And I am emphasizing the plural of that. We don't live in the 24th century of Star Trek level computing and communication power.

And it's not just the level of technology, but access to it, that is to say economics. ISP's aren't exactly known for their generosity. Even before the repeal of Net Neutrality which will now be a major obstacle for US consumers.

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@AdobeArtist said:

What kind of Ivory Tower do you live in that you think 300 Mbps is "average" ??? ?

@xantufrog said:

@goldenelementxl: "Seriously though, the majority of the U.S. must have something comparable. I'm just an average Joe consumer with mid range internet capabilities..."

Lol, no. 300Mbps download speed is not normal. I'm jealous

I figured Metro Detroit internet was middle of the road and I don't even have the best internet package from Comcast. Michigan isn't even ranked in the top 25 states as far as internet speeds are concerned. In some areas you can get Comcast with speeds up to 2,000 Mbps. Then there's fiber...

My bad

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#47 TryIt
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@AdobeArtist said:
@boycie said:
@tryit said:
@boycie said:

While streaming is certainly PART of the future of gaming I don't see it being the ONLY option to gamers for decades yet.

and there is a difference between being amazed at how awesome streaming works when 10 people are on the server and how it works when there is 1 million

Surely you would just have more than one server.

Even a sizeable network of servers can handle only so much with millions of active players. And I am emphasizing the plural of that. We don't live in the 24th century of Star Trek level computing and communication power.

And it's not just the level of technology, but access to it, that is to say economics. ISP's aren't exactly known for their generosity. Even before the repeal of Net Neutrality which will now be a major obstacle for US consumers.

exactly, scaling up something like that nationwide or world wide is a problem with multiple issues some technical and some business.

Proof of Concept for something like that using a small number of people (regardless of where they are in the world) is marketing ploy.

That is not to say they cant pull it off, its just to say its not really good evidence of ability

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#48  Edited By reavis86
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My internet is slower than the OP's, but I've spent 30hrs so far playing ACodyssey on Project Stream. I was real skeptical before starting for the first time because a few years ago, I tried PSnow and I constantly had issues. Google really has their sh*t together. I cant believe how painless the whole experience has been. I've played it mostly on my gaming pc, but also used on a non gaming asus laptop from 2016 and on a HP laptop from 2012. The only time I noticed apparent drops in resolution was when using the 2012 laptop. I feel like it has to do with it only having 2.4ghz wifi and not 5ghz.

While playing I never felt like I was losing anything as far as image quality from playing it streaming instead of on my gaming pc the conventional way. I'm sure my i7 7700k and gtx 1070 would have produced slightly better results, but I never think that while playing. I'm actually starting to prefer the Project Stream experience. I didn't have to wait for it to download. Everytime I want to play it starts up almost instantly. The load times are basically non existent....seems like your playing off of a ssd on crack! Also, I've only used an XB1 controller mostly with the windows 10 wireless adapter to play. Project Stream's system requirements state wired controllers only...no bluetooth. I've tested using bluetooth with my xb1 controller and it didn't pick it up in the game...so if you want wireless you need the adapter.

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#49 GarGx1
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@vfighter said:

Streaming is NOT the future of gaming, hate to break that to anybody dumb enough to believe it was.

Oh it absolutely is, just because you don't like or think bandwidth isn't good enough, the financial benefits for the major console manufacturers are enormous. The savings from the R&D cost of a new console every few years are huge, not including production, distribution, slow uptake of new consoles and the limited life span. Then there's the easy life, mainstream gamers (the vast majority of gamers) that would find streaming and a cheap looking monthly subscriptions extremely attractive.

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@GarGx1 said:
@vfighter said:

Streaming is NOT the future of gaming, hate to break that to anybody dumb enough to believe it was.

Oh it absolutely is, just because you don't like or think bandwidth isn't good enough, the financial benefits for the major console manufacturers are enormous. The savings from the R&D cost of a new console every few years are huge, not including production, distribution, slow uptake of new consoles and the limited life span. Then there's the easy life, mainstream gamers (the vast majority of gamers) that would find streaming and a cheap looking monthly subscriptions extremely attractive.

that in bold is the problem.

it might be however what they are showing as evidence that it 'absolutely is' one can drive a mac truck thru for several technical and business reason.

More over, at least companies like MS, tend to consistently tell the public absolute bullshit about the future and they do it to con people. I say this not as a console player so Sony might do it as well, that is just something I am not as knowledgeable on.