Ok so Gears 4 ended up flopping, is there even a remote possibility of something promising from M$?

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Lets face it, Gears 4 flopped. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Whilst it was a very fun game, the narrative fell short. Gears 1,2,3 didnt exactly have the best overall storyline however it was the relationship between the characters which made it so powerful. Don't get me wrong, Gears 4 was a VERY fun game, the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen. The prologue was one of the most epic openings ever but the rest of the game...it just doesn't compare to Gears 1,2 or 3, not even the prologue of the 4th...

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

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@GhostHawk196 said:

Lets face it, Gears 4 flopped. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Whilst it was a very fun game, the narrative fell short. Gears 1,2,3 didnt exactly have the best overall storyline however it was the relationship between the characters which made it so powerful. Don't get me wrong, Gears 4 was a VERY fun game, the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen. The prologue was one of the most epic openings ever but the rest of the game...it just doesn't compare to Gears 1,2 or 3, not even the prologue of the 4th...

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

Gamertag to prove you have actually played it already?

You're regurgitating what GS review said about the game so I don't buy it that you have played the campaign and MP. You don't like Xbox/MS. We all know it, I called you out for posting "Xbox sucks" on the Xbox association boards. Its ok, you're entitle to your preference but don't come here like anybody should take you opinion of Gears 4 or the future of Xbox seriously dude. Get in touch with reality.

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Ms is doomed after gears of flop. All hail Sony

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@cainetao11 said:
@GhostHawk196 said:

Lets face it, Gears 4 flopped. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Whilst it was a very fun game, the narrative fell short. Gears 1,2,3 didnt exactly have the best overall storyline however it was the relationship between the characters which made it so powerful. Don't get me wrong, Gears 4 was a VERY fun game, the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen. The prologue was one of the most epic openings ever but the rest of the game...it just doesn't compare to Gears 1,2 or 3, not even the prologue of the 4th...

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

Gamertag to prove you have actually played it already?

You're regurgitating what GS review said about the game so I don't buy it that you have played the campaign and MP. You don't like Xbox/MS. We all know it, I called you out for posting "Xbox sucks" on the Xbox association boards. Its ok, you're entitle to your preference but don't come here like anybody should take you opinion of Gears 4 or the future of Xbox seriously dude. Get in touch with reality.

Firstly, I've never posted "Xbox sucks" on the Xbox association board. Secondly, yes I've played the game. My gamertag is the same - you can look that up yourself. Thankfully this game is on PC because I'm telling you now it is completely unplayable on the Xbone...

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Absolutely not. Not looking good for the green side. Even lems have probably noticed.

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@GhostHawk196 said:

Whilst it was a very fun game...

...Gears 4 was a VERY fun game...

...the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen...

Sounds like you had a good time with it? So what's the issue?

I can't hang with these new SW tactics, I'm lost.

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Compared to games that have come out since I last played a Gears game....the guns in Gears 4 feel and sound like I'm shooting an auto spitball shooter.

No "Umph" or real kick to them. I put it on the 3rd highest settings....and blood splatters all over the enemy so that I can't see exactly...and since it's on the 3rd difficulty...it's bullet spongeness where it doesn't belong.

The Division or Destiny or something that has enemies based on levels and such and different enemies that need to be harder....but some grunt taking like a full magazine to the face.

Thats just dumb.

MS backed the wrong dev this time.

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#9  Edited By drummerdave9099
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They're going to declare they've lost and bow out of the console war any day now

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@makemefamous07: What does this have to do with Uncharted 4 and Naughty Dog?!?

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@makemefamous07: Geez dude WTF does that have to do with Gears 4? If you like Gears 4 then tell the OP he's full of shit like we all know he is, there's no need to bring all that other stuff into the conversation as it makes you just as bad as he is.

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#12  Edited By UItravioIence  Online
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They should have made a VR headset. Seems like it's a hit for Sony!

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Still dont understand why cows seem to care so much about games they dont play or games they dont even have the system for.

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Consoles are flopping this gen has been trash. ,buy a PC and rejoice

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The prologue was garbage. The shooting is on par with Gears of War 3 or Gears of War: Ultimate.

The new enemy sucks. The new characters suck. Marcus felt like a third wheel. And don't get me started on level design and those stupid Windflare segments. The only good part about the whole thing was Act V.

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#16  Edited By quatoe
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I think TC has an obsession when things flop, because when he needs it to work, it just flops. If you know what I mean.

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@GhostHawk196 said:

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

Not much sadly, they are effectively abandoning any effort to make the xbone anything more than a paperweight device. The lems are falling into deeper desperation with every passing day as evidenced by their ongoing irrationality and tantrums. They don't even recognize actual good games anymore. Their standards are on the floor and they think that games like QB are good games. Poor rodents, I have never seen such a pathetic state of a gaming fanbase. MS is to blame for constantly bringing their hopes up and then crushing them with refurbished flops. I pity them but at the same time they're their own enemy because they could be migrating towards greener fields any day of the week, yet they refuse. My bet is that they're experiencing a type of Stockholm syndrome. TLHBO.

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#18  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@makemefamous07: I have played the game, but you KNOW that is bullshit to post spoilers like that in topic that is not even about Uncharted. Your comment needs to be edited, deleted or modded. Just because you are on System Wars and enjoy being an asshole doesn't give you the green light to say whatever the Hell you want in an attempt to annoy people boy.

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@GhostHawk196 said:

Lets face it, Gears 4 flopped. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Whilst it was a very fun game, the narrative fell short. Gears 1,2,3 didnt exactly have the best overall storyline however it was the relationship between the characters which made it so powerful. Don't get me wrong, Gears 4 was a VERY fun game, the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen. The prologue was one of the most epic openings ever but the rest of the game...it just doesn't compare to Gears 1,2 or 3, not even the prologue of the 4th...

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

Gamertag to prove you have actually played it already?

You're regurgitating what GS review said about the game so I don't buy it that you have played the campaign and MP. You don't like Xbox/MS. We all know it, I called you out for posting "Xbox sucks" on the Xbox association boards. Its ok, you're entitle to your preference but don't come here like anybody should take you opinion of Gears 4 or the future of Xbox seriously dude. Get in touch with reality.

Damn you beat me to it.

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#20  Edited By lamprey263
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If you've ever cared for Gears of War series in past then getting this if you have an Xbox One is a no brainer. Flop? Only on GameSpot. With Forza Horizon 3 having just released, Dead Rising 4 on its way, and Gears 4 having just released, it's been a pretty good conclusion to the year. Too bad TC doesn't know how to have fun gaming and can only get his rocks off trolling.

I can only imagine what GhostHawk does when he's not on GameSpot...

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Another top quality GhostHawk thread... <insert eye roll>

Go do your homework or you'll get in trouble off mummy.

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#22  Edited By Wiiboxstation
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I played the beta and had a lot of fun with GoW 4. I have spent too much on games recently, have a huge backlog and want a NX as well as possibly getting Titanfall 2. GoW 4 I will get at some point but atm it's lost in the shuffle.

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#23  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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Gears flopped?

Everyone XB1 owner ive talked to loves it.

why are cows so obsessed with gears?? like all the xbox owners I know love it.

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It didn't flop. If you want to see what an actual flop looks like go play No Man's Sky. What a disaster that was after 3 years of hype and the only major game Sony had for the 2nd half of this year.

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@GhostHawk196 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@GhostHawk196 said:

Lets face it, Gears 4 flopped. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Whilst it was a very fun game, the narrative fell short. Gears 1,2,3 didnt exactly have the best overall storyline however it was the relationship between the characters which made it so powerful. Don't get me wrong, Gears 4 was a VERY fun game, the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen. The prologue was one of the most epic openings ever but the rest of the game...it just doesn't compare to Gears 1,2 or 3, not even the prologue of the 4th...

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

Gamertag to prove you have actually played it already?

You're regurgitating what GS review said about the game so I don't buy it that you have played the campaign and MP. You don't like Xbox/MS. We all know it, I called you out for posting "Xbox sucks" on the Xbox association boards. Its ok, you're entitle to your preference but don't come here like anybody should take you opinion of Gears 4 or the future of Xbox seriously dude. Get in touch with reality.

Firstly, I've never posted "Xbox sucks" on the Xbox association board. Secondly, yes I've played the game. My gamertag is the same - you can look that up yourself. Thankfully this game is on PC because I'm telling you now it is completely unplayable on the Xbone...

My bad. What you actually said was:

"No. The xbone is the biggest fraud of a gaming system"--which is against the rules because there is a SW forum to stop trolling in dedicated platform forums

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/xbox-association-1000003/the-last-of-us-33338986/

Would you like to deny that? You don't like the system, your posting history is public knowledge. So that being the case, not many take your word on anything Xbox related seriously.

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@GhostHawk196 said:

Whilst it was a very fun game...

...Gears 4 was a VERY fun game...

...the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen...

Sounds like you had a good time with it? So what's the issue?

I can't hang with these new SW tactics, I'm lost.

LOL right? See my post on the trolling history of the TC. Guy has no credibility LOL

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

Gears flopped?

Everyone XB1 owner ive talked to loves it.

why are cows so obsessed with gears?? like all the xbox owners I know love it.

That's easily explainable since lems have low standards. Cows are merely trying to educate them on what real gaming feels like. TLHBO.

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#28 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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How is it failing? Does it have low meta scores and poor sales?

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#29  Edited By speedfog
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/11/gears-of-war-4-review

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/11/gears-of-war-4-review

I ask myself why even use the Gamespot score anymore? One day cows use IGN or meta scores and the other day they claim that Gamespot is the main review source.

Yes it was a flop AT GAMESPOT. Besides them everyone else thinks it's a great game.

Remember, PSVR is horrible and they spended alot of money in this pos. (Look at the Gamespot review!)

(And if we talk about real flops --> No Mans Sky, praised by Sony

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So 84 on metacritic and 9/10 on ign is flop now, it's not because the gamespot reviewer was highly biased or just a not a very good reviewer that the game flopped.

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#31  Edited By cainetao11
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@speedfog said:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/11/gears-of-war-4-review

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/11/gears-of-war-4-review

I ask myself why even use the Gamespot score anymore? One day cows use IGN or meta scores and the other day they claim that Gamespot is the main review source.

Yes it was a flop AT GAMESPOT. Besides them everyone else thinks it's a great game.

Remember, PSVR is horrible and they spended alot of money in this pos. (Look at the Gamespot review!)

(And if we talk about real flops --> No Mans Sky, praised by Sony

Same exact behavior from the cows LOL

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It's threads like this that's the real flop LOL.

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@dakur said:
@GhostHawk196 said:

The question is, what else is there to look forward to from M$ first party devs?

Not much sadly, they are effectively abandoning any effort to make the xbone anything more than a paperweight device. The lems are falling into deeper desperation with every passing day as evidenced by their ongoing irrationality and tantrums. They don't even recognize actual good games anymore. Their standards are on the floor and they think that games like QB are good games. Poor rodents, I have never seen such a pathetic state of a gaming fanbase. MS is to blame for constantly bringing their hopes up and then crushing them with refurbished flops. I pity them but at the same time they're their own enemy because they could be migrating towards greener fields any day of the week, yet they refuse. My bet is that they're experiencing a type of Stockholm syndrome. TLHBO.

Sums you up perfectly.

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#34 kvally
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@GhostHawk196 said:

I'm telling you now it is completely unplayable on the Xbone...

Can you elaborate?

@GhostHawk196 said:

Lets face it, Gears 4 flopped. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Where did it flop? According to Metacritic:

  • Xbox One: 84 Score
  • Microsoft Windows: 87 Score
  • 68 Positive Reviews
  • 8 Mixed Reviews
  • 0 Negative Reviews

And finally, according to the big kahuna:

Digital Foundry Face Off: Gears of War 4

A technological masterpiece for both Xbox One and PC.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-gears-of-war-4-face-off

Ultimately, there are is a lot to take away from this experience here. On Xbox One, this is one of the most technically accomplished titles yet released for the platform. With impeccable image quality, steady performance, and a whole host of modern visual effects, it's truly one of the best looking games on the console. We're eager to see how this version of the game is transformed for the arrival of Scorpio next year as well.

The PC version impresses even more due in part to the poor track record of UWP ports this year. Gears of War 4 on the PC runs like a dream on a wide variety of platforms and features one of the most robust set of options we've seen as of late. The Xbox Play Anywhere feature also works supremely well making it possible to switch back and forth seamlessly between PC and Xbox One gameplay. The saves carry right over and all of the messaging is clear so you're never left wondering if your progress will be overwritten.

Gears 4 also marks a high point for Epic's Unreal Engine 4, which had yet to be featured in a big budget AAA experience until now. This remarkable engine has played a key role in allowing The Coalition to deliver a beautiful, highly optimised release on a grand scale. There's little doubt that Gears of 4 lives up to its predecessors. While the visuals may not impress quite as much as Gears of War in 2006, which came at a time when graphics techniques were shifting dramatically, it's still remarkably impressive all around.

Overall then, The Coalition has delivered in spades. Gears of War 4 hits all the right marks and the end results are beautiful to behold. If you choose to buy the game digitally, the Play Anywhere feature means that you don't even need to choose which version you'd like to play as both are included. It's been a strong year for Microsoft's first party studios but Gears of War 4 might just be its best release yet.

Looks like you stand alone Ghost. Better luck on your trolling next time.

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it only flopped on GS, even i slagged the game off until i actually played it now i can't put it down.

the graphics are amazing in my opinion.

yeah the story line has some cheesy moment but thats just Gears.

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@cainetao11 said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@GhostHawk196 said:

Whilst it was a very fun game...

...Gears 4 was a VERY fun game...

...the shooting is the most solid i've ever seen...

Sounds like you had a good time with it? So what's the issue?

I can't hang with these new SW tactics, I'm lost.

LOL right? See my post on the trolling history of the TC. Guy has no credibility LOL

HAHAHA! This is hilarious, especially since he posts after this was posted and completely overlooks it, he knows he is embarrassed...lmao

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So nice I have to use this thrice..

So much BS, so little time. :P

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Lol another one of these topics. GS showing it's value again

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The only flop here is your thread.

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#41 kvally
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Sounds like the $ony fans are still upset at having no games. The PSbore has flopped for all of 2016. Is there even a remote possibility of something promising from $ony?

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Gears of War 4 was fun but nothing really special that stood out but I'm glad to see this series joins the ranks with Halo & Forza cause they have there own fanbase that doesn't consider any series a flop. And speaking of flop, what are sale figures if it did flop?

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@makemefamous07 said:

Uncharted 4 flopped just like MGS5, MGS4, GTA4 et etc etc all of which gamers complained cuz of how BAD they were and for good reason. Uncharted 4 having VERY little gameplay. The whole game 80% of it was a walking simulator, climbing Slowly!!!, Grab ass over ledges, boring puzzles & Naughty Dog couldnt even make the sliding on your ass fun LOL.

Uncharted 4 had LONG chapters which u had NO gameplay just walking & talking. A QTE ending & the fight with the black girl was AWFUL. U do NOT even have to bash the square button which would be pointless since u cant even hit her. Just Stand There & let the A.I hit u till that simulator ends LOL. Its that bad. Not to mention the last 2 chapters were the worst with NO gameplay as i mentioned.

Uncharted 4 is the WORST game Naught dog put out . Theres already TONS USED if u just click the used section of it on Gamestop website LOL. The game literally has NO replay value cuz of how bad and little the gameplay there is. The story was the same boring shit . Nate finds treasure, Nate ends up with no treasure, Happy ending at the end where no one dies LOL. Man those stacked used copies at Gamestop is to damn funny lol

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#44 thehig1
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Has gears of war flopped, it had 9s on most gaming sites and it's likely to sell well

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#45 kvally
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@thehig1 said:

Has gears of war flopped, it had 9s on most gaming sites and it's likely to sell well

Gamespot > All other gaming sites and sales.

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@kvally said:
@thehig1 said:

Has gears of war flopped, it had 9s on most gaming sites and it's likely to sell well

Gamespot > All other gaming sites and sales.

I guess that answers my questions then if it did flop or not, nice to see another franchise successful launch.

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#47 Flyincloud1116
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leMs said the TLOU got an 8 on Gamespot was a flop. So this by the same definition is a Super Flop.

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#48 thehig1
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@kvally said:
@thehig1 said:

Has gears of war flopped, it had 9s on most gaming sites and it's likely to sell well

Gamespot > All other gaming sites and sales.

system wars logic at is finest, its relates to the real world perfectly

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#49 Ghost120x
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I'm on act 4 and it's not really that good imo, but it is a lot better than judgement. Shame halo 5 and this have such boring single player campaigns. At least there's multiplayer.

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#50  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@thehig1 said:
@kvally said:
@thehig1 said:

Has gears of war flopped, it had 9s on most gaming sites and it's likely to sell well

Gamespot > All other gaming sites and sales.

system wars logic at is finest, its relates to the real world perfectly

leMS did the same thing or worst when TLOU got an 8 on Gamspot.