Ok... So we know MS won, but who lost?

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Im sure Im gonna get called fanboy for saying MS won, but lets be real, they did. They were the one company that did what they needed to do. They proved that they have "stay" power with future hardcore games while branching into the casual market a bit with effective use of their industry leading online service. They also dropped "the" announcement of the conference, and while I agree PS3 owners will still get to play the same game, the 360 has taken away a console seller "chip" from sony... would you agree?

Sony failed because they needed to show lots and lots of quality games.... they did and didn't. Resistance was great, ingame and compelling, but if you think anyone was satisfied with a 15 second cgi GOW3 and whatever MAG is supposed to be (I say that with no hate, It could be cool) your wrong. Sony gave nothing on KZ2, and offered no dates for release for many of their previewed games. Excuse me if I don't believe sony is going to get anything out in a timely fashion. All in all I felt like Sony was trying to convince me that they could be like Microsoft, it was weird.

Nintendo was an absolute embarressment. I can't believe that sheep are even here posting when they should be off selling their wii. Sorry, but what the snowballs was that middle-aged soccer mom trying to do up there. I felt like she drank a case of redbull and was trying to do a "great" job so she could get a promotion. Watch CNN later because Shawn White might kill himiself. From the best of my estimations Nintendo showed us a baby toy. Seriously, they showed a consept that waving your hands around I can somehow make music.... Im a liscenced music teacher in a public school folks and I was absolutly embarrased for this monstrosity of a "game." No Kid Icaras, no new zelda, no hardcore games whatsoever, no normal games other than GTA for the DS...

What do you all think...

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#2 punkrocker163
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first of all you should say MS won imo because imo i think sony won. and second i swear there was a topic with the same title earlier.
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Nintendo's press conference was absolutely abyssmal... sorry, it just was.
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Im sure Im gonna get called fanboy for saying MS won, but lets be real, they did. They were the one company that did what they needed to do. They proved that they have "stay" power with future hardcore games while branching into the casual market a bit with effective use of their industry leading online service. They also dropped "the" announcement of the conference, and while I agree PS3 owners will still get to play the same game, the 360 has taken away a console seller "chip" from sony... would you agree?

Sony failed because they needed to show lots and lots of quality games.... they did and didn't. Resistance was great, ingame and compelling, but if you think anyone was satisfied with a 15 second cgi GOW3 and whatever MAG is supposed to be (I say that with no hate, It could be cool) your wrong. Sony gave nothing on KZ2, and offered no dates for release for many of their previewed games. Excuse me if I don't believe sony is going to get anything out in a timely fashion. All in all I felt like Sony was trying to convince me that they could be like Microsoft, it was weird.

Nintendo was an absolute embarressment. I can't believe that sheep are even here posting when they should be off selling their wii. Sorry, but what the snowballs was that middle-aged soccer mom trying to do up there. I felt like she drank a case of redbull and was trying to do a "great" job so she could get a promotion. Watch CNN later because Shawn White might kill himiself. From the best of my estimations Nintendo showed us a baby toy. Seriously, they showed a consept that waving your hands around I can somehow make music.... Im a liscenced music teacher in a public school folks and I was absolutly embarrased for this monstrosity of a "game." No Kid Icaras, no new zelda, no hardcore games whatsoever, no normal games other than GTA for the DS...

What do you all think...

colmusterd28

kz2 had its own conference after the sony one

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#5 Dilrod
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MS didnt win anything. FFXIII is still on the ps3, so sony fans lose nothing. It was definately the biggest announcement though.

M$ and Sony were about even with every thing and Nintendo really didnt show anything worthwhile.

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#6 polishkid99
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and i agree with what you said on nintendo...not so much on sony or microsoft...but some of it i did..
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#7 ice144
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When did MS win, I must've missed all the new games they announced...o wai-

Seriously, Sony and Ms were equal, stop making it seem like one side was this huge leap better than the other.

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:? Microsoft didnt win E3.
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Microsoft won.

Sony barely has 3rd party exclusives.

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#10 Veterngamer
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MS conference > Sony Conference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman 64 > Nintendo Conference
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There is no definite "winner" when it comes to E3. It's all opinions. And i disagree with your opinion. MS had the biggest announcement, but i think Sony had a better show.
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MS didnt win anything. FFXIII is still on the ps3, so sony fans lose nothing. It was definately the biggest announcement though.

M$ and Sony were about even with every thing and Nintendo really didnt show anything worthwhile.

Dilrod

Sony wasn't aweful butI think they were less than impressive in the one area they needed to make their fanbase feel more comfortable, games, in game demos, release dates, etc. You have to admit they didn't deliver in that respect.

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Winner-MS

Runner up-Sony

Last-Nintendo...Sorry Nintendo nothing against you but you did not bring it.

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

Im sure Im gonna get called fanboy for saying MS won, but lets be real, they did. They were the one company that did what they needed to do. They proved that they have "stay" power with future hardcore games while branching into the casual market a bit with effective use of their industry leading online service. They also dropped "the" announcement of the conference, and while I agree PS3 owners will still get to play the same game, the 360 has taken away a console seller "chip" from sony... would you agree?

Sony failed because they needed to show lots and lots of quality games.... they did and didn't. Resistance was great, ingame and compelling, but if you think anyone was satisfied with a 15 second cgi GOW3 and whatever MAG is supposed to be (I say that with no hate, It could be cool) your wrong. Sony gave nothing on KZ2, and offered no dates for release for many of their previewed games. Excuse me if I don't believe sony is going to get anything out in a timely fashion. All in all I felt like Sony was trying to convince me that they could be like Microsoft, it was weird.

Nintendo was an absolute embarressment. I can't believe that sheep are even here posting when they should be off selling their wii. Sorry, but what the snowballs was that middle-aged soccer mom trying to do up there. I felt like she drank a case of redbull and was trying to do a "great" job so she could get a promotion. Watch CNN later because Shawn White might kill himiself. From the best of my estimations Nintendo showed us a baby toy. Seriously, they showed a consept that waving your hands around I can somehow make music.... Im a liscenced music teacher in a public school folks and I was absolutly embarrased for this monstrosity of a "game." No Kid Icaras, no new zelda, no hardcore games whatsoever, no normal games other than GTA for the DS...

What do you all think...

polishkid99

kz2 had its own conference after the sony one

:O
link?
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MS conference > Sony Conference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman 64 > Nintendo ConferenceVeterngamer

agreed... though I may slip E.T. 2600 in there ahead of nintendo...

I felt like contacting a lawyer to see who I could sue to get the hour of my life back.

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MS didnt win anything. FFXIII is still on the ps3, so sony fans lose nothing. It was definately the biggest announcement though.

M$ and Sony were about even with every thing and Nintendo really didnt show anything worthwhile.

Dilrod

MS stole away FFXIII, one of if not the biggest former Sony Exclusive...... what MS exclusive did Sony manage to get as well???? Oh yeah thats right, none...... what gameplay footage did we see for games on the PS3??? Resistance 2 & LBP..... everything else was a CGI trailer, HOORAY, Killzone2 all over again..... have fun waiting til 2010 for GoW3, and 2012 for MAG.... LOL

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#17 deactivated-5add084b23cf4
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I think MS and sony won, because well, they didn't announce anything huge. Sure, FFXIII, but both of 'em will have it so IMO it's not that much of a big deal, it's just fanboys crying cuz they bought their ps3 just for it. I for one, have all 3 consoles, and am glad everyone will be able to enjoy ffxiii
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#18 slothboyadvance
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In my opinion:

Sony Conference = MS Conference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo Conference

(NOTE: Each ">" represents 100,000,000,000 ">")

Where was the hardcore games, Nintendo?! Animal Crossing is great and all, but it is simply not enough!

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Microsoft won.

Sony barely has 3rd party exclusives.

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#20 colmusterd28
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[QUOTE="Dilrod"]

MS didnt win anything. FFXIII is still on the ps3, so sony fans lose nothing. It was definately the biggest announcement though.

M$ and Sony were about even with every thing and Nintendo really didnt show anything worthwhile.

Veterngamer

MS stole away FFXIII, one of if not the biggest former Sony Exclusive...... what MS exclusive did Sony manage to get as well???? Oh yeah thats right, none...... what gameplay footage did we see for games on the PS3??? Resistance 2 & LBP..... everything else was a CGI trailer, HOORAY, Killzone2 all over again..... have fun waiting til 2010 for GoW3, and 2012 for MAG.... LOL

a little harsh but, yeah, thats pretty much what I was thinking. Say what you want, but sony didn't deliver much of anything... other than GT tv.... hee hee...

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#22 Dilrod
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Microsoft won.

Sony barely has 3rd party exclusives.

platinumxofhell

Neither does M$. Third party exclusives are a thing of the past anymore.

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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="Dilrod"]

MS didnt win anything. FFXIII is still on the ps3, so sony fans lose nothing. It was definately the biggest announcement though.

M$ and Sony were about even with every thing and Nintendo really didnt show anything worthwhile.

colmusterd28

MS stole away FFXIII, one of if not the biggest former Sony Exclusive...... what MS exclusive did Sony manage to get as well???? Oh yeah thats right, none...... what gameplay footage did we see for games on the PS3??? Resistance 2 & LBP..... everything else was a CGI trailer, HOORAY, Killzone2 all over again..... have fun waiting til 2010 for GoW3, and 2012 for MAG.... LOL

a little harsh but, yeah, thats pretty much what I was thinking. Say what you want, but sony didn't deliver much of anything... other than GT tv.... hee hee...

So MS is winning by stealing away past PS1 & 2 exclusives that have always been on Playstation?! Shouldn't this tell you Lems something? Hint: most all the good game titles exist because Sony made the playstation.

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#24 Veterngamer
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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]MS conference > Sony Conference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman 64 > Nintendo Conferencecolmusterd28

agreed... though I may slip E.T. 2600 in there ahead of nintendo...

I felt like contacting a lawyer to see who I could sue to get the hour of my life back.

I hear ya dude..... and plz no one call me a fanboy.... I own a Nintendo Wii.... I have no plans of ever buying a PS3, but Sony's E3 was leagues better than the CRAPTASTIC display that Nintendo put on.

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In my personal opinion, none of them won.
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#26 TDLlama
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Nobody really won E3, but I'm thinking Nintendo has actually won it... and I know that's the unpopular thing to say.

Wii Music will be huge, Wii Sports Resort will be huge, MotionPlus is a nice addition, Wii Speak could be good, and the DS has some strong titles including a new GTA game. Nintendo did fail in attracting games suited towards the hardcore... showing Call of Duty simply won't do.

Microsoft showed that Nintendo and Sony are more innovative (Mii, EyeToy, Singstar clones) and Sony lost FFXIII exclusivity, although MAG could be good.

All sucked, but I still think Nintendo sucked less.

Now... let me just get my flame shield ready.

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#27 patriots7672
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Nobody really won E3, but I'm thinking Nintendo has actually won it... and I know that's the unpopular thing to say.

Wii Music will be huge, Wii Sports Resort will be huge, MotionPlus is a nice addition, Wii Speak could be good, and the DS has some strong titles including a new GTA game. Nintendo did fail in attracting games suited towards the hardcore... showing Call of Duty simply won't do.

Microsoft showed that Nintendo and Sony are more innovative (Mii, EyeToy, Singstar clones) and Sony lost FFXIII exclusivity, although MAG could be good.

All sucked, but I still think Nintendo sucked less.

Now... let me just get my flame shield ready.

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You are true Nintendo to say this. Good for you!

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#28 Izzy12345
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@Mustard

Your not a fanboy for this thread but for the 100s of ps3 diss ones you've started. That being said I don't really see why MS would win, oh wait it must have been the Mii clones, no wait... the SingStar ripoff... no the stuff on Gears which we already saw... oh ya thats right I forgot the FFX3 announcement.

Overall E3 was fairly weak, Nintendo was just plain stale, MS could have just announced FFX3 in the first 5 minutes then told everyone to go check out what other consoles have. Sony seemed shellshocked to me although kudos to Jack for 2-3 360 disses. But ya I guess your right Mustard MS is the best of the worse although lets be honest without the FFX3 announcement you wouldn't be posting.

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#30 finalfantasy94
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Of course, MS won. Only fanboys would say otherwise. Nintendo lost.BioShockOwnz

Not really. I think the only reason people say MS won was cause of FF13 and thats it. Yea nintendo sucked hard this year again.

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#31 Franko_3
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The pc won E3 obivously. The pc is so high it doesn't need a conference to show it's superiority.

/dream

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#32 Dilrod
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Of course, MS won. Only fanboys would say otherwise. Nintendo lost.BioShockOwnz

Nice opinion.

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MS conference > Sony Conference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman 64 > Nintendo ConferenceVeterngamer

That is sig worthy.

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#34 patriots7672
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@Mustard

Your not a fanboy for this thread but for the 100s of ps3 diss ones you've started. That being said I don't really see why MS would win, oh wait it must have been the Mii clones, no wait... the SingStar ripoff... no the stuff on Gears which we already saw... oh ya thats right I forgot the FFX3 announcement.

Overall E3 was fairly weak, Nintendo was just plain stale, MS could have just announced FFX3 in the first 5 minutes then told everyone to go check out what other consoles have. Sony seemed shellshocked to me although kudos to Jack for 2-3 360 disses. But ya I guess your right Mustard MS is the best of the worse although lets be honest without the FFX3 announcement you wouldn't be posting.

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MS rips off ideas and game franchises from Nint and Sony. That's how they play their dirty game.

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#35 thrones
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Of course, MS won. Only fanboys would say otherwise. Nintendo lost.Dilrod

Nice fact.

Fixed.
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M$ is sooooo original, I mean the originality is overflowing out of Bill Gates **** Listen you want the honest truth? Gears 2 looks good. Fable looks good. M$ buys out everyone. But still even after getting FFXIII Sony fans still stand up and defend their system.

I'snt it enough that M$ owns 95% of the worlds operating systems. Sounds like Skynet to me. o:

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="Dilrod"]

MS didnt win anything. FFXIII is still on the ps3, so sony fans lose nothing. It was definately the biggest announcement though.

M$ and Sony were about even with every thing and Nintendo really didnt show anything worthwhile.

patriots7672

MS stole away FFXIII, one of if not the biggest former Sony Exclusive...... what MS exclusive did Sony manage to get as well???? Oh yeah thats right, none...... what gameplay footage did we see for games on the PS3??? Resistance 2 & LBP..... everything else was a CGI trailer, HOORAY, Killzone2 all over again..... have fun waiting til 2010 for GoW3, and 2012 for MAG.... LOL

a little harsh but, yeah, thats pretty much what I was thinking. Say what you want, but sony didn't deliver much of anything... other than GT tv.... hee hee...

So MS is winning by stealing away past PS1 & 2 exclusives that have always been on Playstation?! Shouldn't this tell you Lems something? Hint: most all the good game titles exist because Sony made the playstation.

LOL you've been a gamer for how long.... since the PS1 days??? lol, nooob..... Final Fantasy VII wasn't the first one.... HUH!!! WHAT!!!! I know right.... hard to imagine isn't it.....

In case sarcasm is lost on you..... FF started on the NES, then went SNES buddy.... and ummm... since when was FFXIII a PS1/PS2 exclusive..... you need to go lay down b4 you hurt yourself.

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@Mustard

Your not a fanboy for this thread but for the 100s of ps3 diss ones you've started. That being said I don't really see why MS would win, oh wait it must have been the Mii clones, no wait... the SingStar ripoff... no the stuff on Gears which we already saw... oh ya thats right I forgot the FFX3 announcement.

Overall E3 was fairly weak, Nintendo was just plain stale, MS could have just announced FFX3 in the first 5 minutes then told everyone to go check out what other consoles have. Sony seemed shellshocked to me although kudos to Jack for 2-3 360 disses. But ya I guess your right Mustard MS is the best of the worse although lets be honest without the FFX3 announcement you wouldn't be posting.

patriots7672

MS rips off ideas and game franchises from Nint and Sony. That's how they play their dirty game.

Ya thats why I don't like MS they come out with 360 all their fanboys diss up PS3 ff is just a lame JRPG. MS comes out with Eternal Sonata Blue Dragon Lost Oddesey, those don't cut it so they steal. Then they act like they know gaming, please.

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#39 themyth01
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Nintendo's press conference was absolutely abyssmal... sorry, it just was.-Jiggles-

Indeed it's like they don't even try anymore, no new Zelda or Metroid or anything really.

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microsoft keynote was about the same as sonys but the final fantasy announcment was epic so microsoft keynote-------------> sonys
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#41 ThugKing6669
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Nintendo. Regardless of whether you own a lolWii or not, anyone watching that conference or participating in that conference lost.
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I'snt it enough that M$ owns 95% of the worlds operating systems. Sounds like Skynet to me. o:

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Yes that's what Skynet wants you to think...:D

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#43 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Dilrod"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Of course, MS won. Only fanboys would say otherwise. Nintendo lost.thrones

Nice opinion.

Fixed.

Fixed again.

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#44 Ugotownedo
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I was seriously considering selling my Wii now that I have a 360, but I remember reading at CVG that Nintendo said that they have "big surprises for hardcore gamers." Yeah well Wii Music and the sorts just don't cut it? Where's Starfox? Where's that revolutionary FPS that Nintendo was touting at E3 2006? I remember them praising the pointer functionality because of it's great control in FPSs. I wanted an crazy FPS that's better than Metroid, and has organised online play. Wii is perfectly capable of that, but Nintendo failed to deliver those titles that I and so many other people want.

So Nintendo's conference was the worst, simply because they said there would be hardcore titles, but there weren't any. Microsoft and Sony were both great though. I liked Sony's presentation overall, but Microsoft had the best surprise (FFXIII). Now I want a PS3, and I'm looking forward to the future of the 360.

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#45 bigLLL
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how did microsoft win??? by showing multiplat games? and announcing final fantasy 13 was a suprise but at the end of the day now it's multiplat?

Sony showed exclusive 1st party games! and the new game Mag if they pull it off is going to be so amazing that it will haunt the sleep of 360 fanboys knowing that there not playing the AWESOME

The resistance 2 boss right was as epic as they come and if they showed killzone 2 multiplayer that has just surfaced as GG had a seperate conference it would have been game set and match, the multiplayer in killzone 2 looks bloody amazing sony is seriously the console to have.

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#46 Smpy4MrVengance
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I'snt it enough that M$ owns 95% of the worlds operating systems. Sounds like Skynet to me. o:

Skynet2029

Yes that's what Skynet wants you to think...:D

Or maybe they brainwash everyone with the red ring of death

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#47 leadernator
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So MS wins, because their biggest announcement was a MUTIPLAT title.

Yeah, makes a lot of sense :|

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#48 s0ldier69
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anyone that can think objectively knows that MS clearly won. Hell, the FF steal alone gives MS the win, not to mention everything else, and the NETFLIX deal too.
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#49 ParadiddleFill
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how did microsoft win??? by showing multiplat games? and announcing final fantasy 13 was a suprise but at the end of the day now it's multiplat?

Sony showed exclusive 1st party games! and the new game Mag if they pull it off is going to be so amazing that it will haunt the sleep of 360 fanboys knowing that there not playing the AWESOME

The resistance 2 boss right was as epic as they come and if they showed killzone 2 multiplayer that has just surfaced as GG had a seperate conference it would have been game set and match, the multiplayer in killzone 2 looks bloody amazing sony is seriously the console to have.

bigLLL

they showed gears of war 2 new gameplay footage which was epic, banjo and rock band 2 which is 360 exclusive

sony showed cgi trailers to games that wont be out for a couple of years reminded me of e3 05 all over again

plus one of sonys biggest games going multiplatform was epic and funny at the same time

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#50 teufelherz
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I was really into getting a PS3 before E3 because of MGS4 (I even purchased the game since I found it cheap). I took this game as a sign that there was a bright future for the console. TO ME Sony's conference was really dissappointing and I'll just save some cash instead of using a credit card to get that PS3. So I agree, M$ won.