Ok, System Wars, here's something you all can agree on.

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#1 The_AI
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This list SUCKS!

http://old-wizard.com/top-10-most-overrated-video-game-franchises

Whoever made this list was either 1. a total Nintendo fanboy 2. a troll out to piss everybody off 3. just plain stupid or 4. all of the above. Honestly, read his points. They're ridiculous.

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#2 bronxxbombers
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That listed passes suckage, and moved onto a new magnitude. Pokemon is NOT overrated.
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#3 dragonfly110
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I almost 100% disagree with that list, some of the series listed there are some of my fav franchises of al time, mainly pokemon...

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#4 TaMuK711
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I agree with many of his picks, but he failed when he said none of the 3 halo games are even top 100 games all time:P

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#5 cody3232
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As much as i don't, i could defeintly see people agree with this list. I don' think system wars will ever all agree on something.

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#6 randomwiiplayer
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Can't be a Nintendo fanboy, Pokemon is the #1 overrated series, but I disagree. I disagree with most, but Sonic needs to die. So does GH.

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#7 mitu123
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That list has Guitar Hero in it, so it isn't all bad.:P

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This dude is one of those pseudo-gamers that think they are "true gamers" because they prefer SNES games... listen, I am an SNES fan myself but it's time to let it go. It's nostalgia that's keeping it alive.... really, I mean this guy talks about Halo (second greatest franchise ever) and then randomly mentions Super Metroid and Mega Man 2? WTF?

I mean it's his opinion but I mean it's become a trend to think you're all hardcore if you played Chrono Trigger (which is even more overrated than Halo now!). I bet this is the same type of person that thinks Final Fantasy VI is better than VII - even though he's never played VI (but he thinks that because it's the cool thing to do, ya know?)

Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, Half-Life, Halo, Pokemon, are some of the best franchises ever. And then he says GTA Is realistic? WTH? Yeah, GTAIV is a little more "realistic" but the fact is GTA III-SA aren't realistic at all.

"while giving a really fun game like Super Mario Galaxy a 9.7."

GTAIV can be more fun than Mario Galaxy.

Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

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#9 funsohng
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omg did he just diss pokemon? and how can he be a nintendo fanboy when pokemon is first on the list
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#10 enterawesome
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I kinda want to punch that guy. Sonic doesn't even make sense as an overrated game, all the new Sonic games are reviewed terribly! Pokemon overrated? C'mon, EVERYBODY loves Pokemon, I don't care if you were the first to buy a Magnavox Odyssey and dedicate at least 10 hours a day to games, you'll like Pokemon. Also, I seriously doubt they EVER played GTA4. Bad gameplay? Thats just laughable. Just because its not ridiculously over the top like Saints Row, its a billion times better because gameplay is there, and its better than most all third-person shooters.
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#11 dragonfly110
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omg did he just diss pokemon? and how can he be a nintendo fanboy when pokemon is first on the listfunsohng

tbh, I think he seems more like a person lost in nostalgia then a nintendo fanboy. He seems to be blinded by nostalgia, this comes to a peak in his reasoning for Halo lol :P

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#12 enterawesome
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That list has Guitar Hero in it, so it isn't all bad.:P

mitu123
Thats the only thing I agree with, and that should be number one.
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He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!
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#14 Yandere
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I agree with all of them being overrated, he missed many games/series though.

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#15 II-FBIsniper-II
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Where do people find these lists? Old-Wizard.com?
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That listed passes suckage, and moved onto a new magnitude. Pokemon is NOT overrated.bronxxbombers
Actually the only games I agree with this guy on this list are HALO and POKEMON... Halo being the most overrated game ever, fps were done much better before halo on the pc. and its' only so overrated because it's marketing budget was 1000x the cost to make the games. Pokemon is a childrens cartoon. I was probably around 18-20 years old when pokemon came out on game boy color... and my girlfriend at the time had it, i thought it was total crap. It wasn't an epic story or good rpg. I like fleshed out rpg chracters, with multitudes of monsters, deep leveling systems and character/party interatcions. Pokemon was just a marketing fad "gota catch em all" with a dumb childrens cartoon. It saddens me that there are so many people on this site, that would rather play pokemon than Final Fantasy 6. Sad real Sad! My little nephews don't even know what final Fantasy is, all they now for rpgs is pokemon, and they are 8 and 10 years old... I was playing Dragon Warrior/Quest 1, FF1, Might and Magic 2, and ultima 4 , and Pools of Raidance for my rpgs at that age...not one of them envolved kids trying to collect cutsie animals, on a game with no story. Other than that the guy does come across being a Nintendo fanboy. Not even a retro fanboy with his bash on Sonic.
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#17 FF6fan
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This guy just seems like another one of those "back in the good ole' days" kinda guy. Seems like he hates anything new, and brings up his precious memories of SNES days. Which most people tend to only remember the good things in their past and not the bad.
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This dude is one of those pseudo-gamers that think they are "true gamers" because they prefer SNES games... listen, I am an SNES fan myself but it's time to let it go. It's nostalgia that's keeping it alive.... really, I mean this guy talks about Halo (second greatest franchise ever) and then randomly mentions Super Metroid and Mega Man 2? WTF?

I mean it's his opinion but I mean it's become a trend to think you're all hardcore if you played Chrono Trigger (which is even more overrated than Halo now!). I bet this is the same type of person that thinks Final Fantasy VI is better than VII - even though he's never played VI (but he thinks that because it's the cool thing to do, ya know?)

Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, Half-Life, Halo, Pokemon, are some of the best franchises ever. And then he says GTA Is realistic? WTH? Yeah, GTAIV is a little more "realistic" but the fact is GTA III-SA aren't realistic at all.

"while giving a really fun game like Super Mario Galaxy a 9.7."

GTAIV can be more fun than Mario Galaxy.

Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

AHUGECAT

Yet you cannot wait to play it on your 360? :).

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Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

AHUGECAT

I can't wait to play Final Fantasy XIII and Tekken 6.... on my Xbox 360!

directly from your sig

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I just didnt agree with him saying that all the pokemon enemies are kiddy, and it was weak conmapared to FF. Nothing about these guys seem kiddy...at least not to me

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I mean I know it had some kiddy enemies like JIgglypuff and Clefairy, but they are no worse then enemies like the Chocobo's in Final Fantasy, or the slimes in Dragon Quest...

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

Giancar

I can't wait to play Final Fantasy XIII and Tekken 6.... on my Xbox 360!

directly from your sig

Ruh-roh! Someone's been caught!
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#22 PBSnipes
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Where do people find these lists? Old-Wizard.com? II-FBIsniper-II

I feel so dirty for giving that site a pageview.

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#23 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That list has Guitar Hero in it, so it isn't all bad.:P

enterawesome
Thats the only thing I agree with, and that should be number one.

Same here my friend.
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#24 Yandere
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I just didnt agree with him saying that all the pokemon enemies are kiddy, and it was weak conmapared to FF. Nothing about these guys seem kiddy...at least not to me

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I mean I know it had some kiddy enemies like JIgglypuff and Clefairy, but they are no worse then enemies like the Chocobo's in Final Fantasy, or the slimes in Dragon Quest...

dragonfly110

Like it or not Pokemon is obviously directed towards a younger audience.

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#25 bronxxbombers
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This dude is one of those pseudo-gamers that think they are "true gamers" because they prefer SNES games... listen, I am an SNES fan myself but it's time to let it go. It's nostalgia that's keeping it alive.... really, I mean this guy talks about Halo (second greatest franchise ever) and then randomly mentions Super Metroid and Mega Man 2? WTF?

I mean it's his opinion but I mean it's become a trend to think you're all hardcore if you played Chrono Trigger (which is even more overrated than Halo now!). I bet this is the same type of person that thinks Final Fantasy VI is better than VII - even though he's never played VI (but he thinks that because it's the cool thing to do, ya know?)

Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, Half-Life, Halo, Pokemon, are some of the best franchises ever. And then he says GTA Is realistic? WTH? Yeah, GTAIV is a little more "realistic" but the fact is GTA III-SA aren't realistic at all.

"while giving a really fun game like Super Mario Galaxy a 9.7."

GTAIV can be more fun than Mario Galaxy.

Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

AHUGECAT
*gasp* did AHUGECAT just say something I kinda agree with!
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#26 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

I just didnt agree with him saying that all the pokemon enemies are kiddy, and it was weak conmapared to FF. Nothing about these guys seem kiddy...at least not to me

I mean I know it had some kiddy enemies like JIgglypuff and Clefairy, but they are no worse then enemies like the Chocobo's in Final Fantasy, or the slimes in Dragon Quest...

Yandere

Like it or not Pokemon is obviously directed towards a younger audience.

well I Know it is, I just dont like them basically implying that it was ONLY directed towards a younger audience and that it was basically dumb.

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#27 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

siLVURcross

I can't wait to play Final Fantasy XIII and Tekken 6.... on my Xbox 360!

directly from your sig

Ruh-roh! Someone's been caught!

It's meant as a victory.

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#28 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This dude is one of those pseudo-gamers that think they are "true gamers" because they prefer SNES games... listen, I am an SNES fan myself but it's time to let it go. It's nostalgia that's keeping it alive.... really, I mean this guy talks about Halo (second greatest franchise ever) and then randomly mentions Super Metroid and Mega Man 2? WTF?

I mean it's his opinion but I mean it's become a trend to think you're all hardcore if you played Chrono Trigger (which is even more overrated than Halo now!). I bet this is the same type of person that thinks Final Fantasy VI is better than VII - even though he's never played VI (but he thinks that because it's the cool thing to do, ya know?)

Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, Half-Life, Halo, Pokemon, are some of the best franchises ever. And then he says GTA Is realistic? WTH? Yeah, GTAIV is a little more "realistic" but the fact is GTA III-SA aren't realistic at all.

"while giving a really fun game like Super Mario Galaxy a 9.7."

GTAIV can be more fun than Mario Galaxy.

Oh, but I do agree with them on Tekken. I hate that series so much!

bronxxbombers
*gasp* did AHUGECAT just say something I kinda agree with!

You can't agree because of the controversial sentence in his post.
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#29 mitu123
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]That listed passes suckage, and moved onto a new magnitude. Pokemon is NOT overrated.Midnightshade29
It saddens me that there are so many people on this site, that would rather play pokemon than Final Fantasy 6. Sad real Sad!

They must be punished for that.

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#30 Yandere
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It's sad COD isn't on the list.

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#31 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Giancar"] I can't wait to play Final Fantasy XIII and Tekken 6.... on my Xbox 360!

directly from your sig

AHUGECAT

Ruh-roh! Someone's been caught!

It's meant as a victory.

So you pretend to like something to prove to MS, which does not care about your existence, how much of a tool you are to them? Come on...

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#32 dkrustyklown
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Except for Half-Life, that list was spot-on.

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#33 tagyhag
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I agree with Guitar Hero/Halo actually.
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#34 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

That list has Guitar Hero in it, so it isn't all bad.:P

Thats the only thing I agree with, and that should be number one.

Same here my friend.

Indeed. I won't trouble myself with such an incredibly dumb list though, its a no-name website, I'd only ever care if a place like GS or IGN said that.
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#35 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"] Ruh-roh! Someone's been caught!Kahuna_1

It's meant as a victory.

So you pretend to like something to prove to MS, which does not care about your existence, how much of a tool you are to them? Come on...

No, basically I am just laughing because I get to play all the PlayStation's big hits on the 360 if I wanted to, and I didn't need to destroy my wallet.

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#36 dragonfly110
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I agree with Guitar Hero/Halo actually.tagyhag

I agree with halo being overrated, I dont agree with what he wrote about it though at all.

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#37 tagyhag
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It's sad COD isn't on the list.

Yandere
I think he remembered COD and COD2 and decided against that. :P
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#38 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

It's sad COD isn't on the list.

tagyhag
I think he remembered COD and COD2 and decided against that. :P

Yep, those were the best games in the series, after that, the series changed sadly.
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#39 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

It's sad COD isn't on the list.

mitu123

I think he remembered COD and COD2 and decided against that. :P

Yep, those were the best games in the series, after that, the series changed sadly.

Changed for the better with Modern Warfare.

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#40 blank33
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That list has Guitar Hero in it, so it isn't all bad.:P

mitu123

hahaha... I hate Guitar Hero.

Otherwise, they fail.

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He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!siLVURcross
What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

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#42 pierst179
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To me that list is the perfect example of some random website insulting ten of the most amazing and popular franchises in gaming in order to get tons of hits. But I do have to agree with them on Guitar Hero.

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#43 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!Midnightshade29

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

You just grew up in a different era.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!Midnightshade29

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

Pokemon=god. Dont mess with it.

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#46 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I agree with Guitar Hero/Halo actually.dragonfly110

I agree with halo being overrated, I dont agree with what he wrote about it though at all.

To be honest, I only read the games. :D I think Halo is a great series, but not a Godsend like people make it out to be.
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I wouldn't give these guys much in the way of credibility; this is the same website that thinks Oasis is the greatest rock band in history :roll:

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#49 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!bronxxbombers

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

Pokemon=god. Dont mess with it.

Even though SilverCross might think so I have to strongly disagree.

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#50 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

It's sad COD isn't on the list.

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I think he remembered COD and COD2 and decided against that. :P

Yep, those were the best games in the series, after that, the series changed sadly.

True!! COD1 and COD2 were CAll of duty, after that ,it got consolized big time and milked by craptivision.