Ok, System Wars, here's something you all can agree on.

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omg did he just diss pokemon? and how can he be a nintendo fanboy when pokemon is first on the listfunsohng

This, yes a nintendo fanboy will diss pokemon as the number one most overrated game. Can't say I disagree with some of those games though.

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!Midnightshade29

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

Pokemon has a lot of great things too. Like any RPG, the combat does require a lot of strategy, working with up to 6 party members (the party members being the Pokemon) and using each ones strengths against the enemy. There is also a TON to do, hundreds of Pokemon to collect, quests to go on, places to explore, people to battle, you always have reason to go back. Also, there are clases (mispelled delibertely) in a way, each Pokemon has their own special strength in a certain category, be it fire, rock, ice, water, grass, and so forth. Admittedly, there is no story, but c'mon, if we judged all RPGs by story, Star Ocean: The Last Hope couldn't possibly be an RPG. :P

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#53 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] I think he remembered COD and COD2 and decided against that. :P

Yep, those were the best games in the series, after that, the series changed sadly.

True!! COD1 and COD2 were CAll of duty, after that ,it got consolized big time and milked by craptivision.

I agree with that, COD should had stayed on PC as well.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!Midnightshade29

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

I'm 18, and I play it competitively. Very different from what you're thinking of. It's not just a "child's game", the game involves various strategies, right movesets, properly trained Pokemon and many other things. And I love FF more than I do love Pokemon.

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

Yandere

Pokemon=god. Dont mess with it.

Even though SilverCross might think so I have to strongly disagree.

I don't think Pokemon is God, it's a good series even though the formula might seem tiring to many. It has a complex yet simple battle system that works with a variety of skilled players.

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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!enterawesome

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

Pokemon has a lot of great things too. Like any RPG, the combat does require a lot of strategy, working with up to 6 party members (the party members being the Pokemon) and using each ones strengths against the enemy. There is also a TON to do, hundreds of Pokemon to collect, quests to go on, places to explore, people to battle, you always have reason to go back. Also, there are clases (mispelled delibertely) in a way, each Pokemon has their own special strength in a certain category, be it fire, rock, ice, water, grass, and so forth. Admittedly, there is no story, but c'mon, if we judged all RPGs by story, Star Ocean: The Last Hope couldn't possibly be an RPG. :P

Thanks for the details...that's what i wanted to know. my girlfriend at the time was 20 back in 1998 and she loved the game, but i never took the time to play it as i only knew it from the cartoon. I can see how some people could like it just like i like turn based strategy games, but most people hate those too..

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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

Midnightshade29

Pokemon has a lot of great things too. Like any RPG, the combat does require a lot of strategy, working with up to 6 party members (the party members being the Pokemon) and using each ones strengths against the enemy. There is also a TON to do, hundreds of Pokemon to collect, quests to go on, places to explore, people to battle, you always have reason to go back. Also, there are clases (mispelled delibertely) in a way, each Pokemon has their own special strength in a certain category, be it fire, rock, ice, water, grass, and so forth. Admittedly, there is no story, but c'mon, if we judged all RPGs by story, Star Ocean: The Last Hope couldn't possibly be an RPG. :P

Thanks for the details...that's what i wanted to know. my girlfriend at the time was 20 back in 1998 and she loved the game, but i never took the time to play it as i only knew it from the cartoon. I can see how some people could like it just like i like turn based strategy games, but most people hate those too..

Thats cool then. :) Try it out if you get the chance, just don't judge it by the terrible anime. (which was also strangely addicting when I was younger...)

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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!siLVURcross

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).



Really can someone please let me know why system wars people like this game more than final fantasy or Dragon quest, or any of the great PC rpgs? As I try to get it but i just can't concive of how you can like this game so much. MY only reasoning is that most of system wars was under 14 when pokemon came out and so they were little kids and that was the thing being advertised and hyped by commercials at the time... that is the only reasonable explanation i can come up with. Someone please fill me in!

I'm 18, and I play it competitively. Very different from what you're thinking of. It's not just a "child's game", the game involves various strategies, right movesets, properly trained Pokemon and many other things. And I love FF more than I do love Pokemon.

Thanks, didn't know pokemon was a competitive game... like I said i really don't know much about it besides the aesthetics, but if its some form of strategy game i can at least respect that. Oh and good thing you like ff... I have seen people that dis ff games in favor of pokemon on this site. Dragon Quest/Warrior 1 and FF 1 on NES were my first console rpgs I played all ff games and all dq up to dq 4 on NES a long time ago (and the DS remake of DQ4) I really love good jrpgs and I just couldn't understand the love pokemon got over the great story driven jrpgs i loved so much and still do 2 decades later!!

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#59 789shadow
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Well, that list managed to get everything wrong.

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#60 xsubtownerx
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Meh. I kind of agree with the list. These aren't "bad" games, but I do agree that they're overrated.
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More like a top 10 favorite game list than an top 10 overated one to me!

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#62 KH-mixerX
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Half-Life and Pokemon are the only franchises that should be on that list.

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#63 PSdual_wielder
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Whoever the person was that wrote the article is just trying to be en elitist with his 'old games are still better' statement.

I've owned Half Life for about six years now and I can honestly say I've maybe played it for a total of two hours.

See the problem with that? And he thinks he actually knows about video games, wow he's just awful.

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#64 bad_fur_day
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Definately, we all agree that list really sucks. The nonsense halo bash was the funniest and I don't even play halo. Talk about stuck in the past, old guy.

The thing with retro games back then, they acctually wern't that good, get to up to the same insultingly hard part, loose all your lives, start from the begining, repeat.. And bashing Resident Evil, wowz. Epic failure.

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#65 0rin
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this guy seems to be confusing "highly rated and popular" with "over rated". Its like those kids that think if a band cuts a top-10 record and starts getting MTV aired videos, they "sold out" lol. if a lot of people like something, its usually because its good. (unless it's actually addictive, like drugs/etc)
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[QUOTE="bad_fur_day"]

Definately, we all agree that list really sucks. The nonsense halo bash was the funniest and I don't even play halo. Talk about stuck in the past, old guy.

The thing with retro games back then, they acctually wern't that good, get to up to the same insultingly hard part, loose all your lives, start from the begining, repeat.. And bashing Resident Evil, wowz. Epic failure.

Well, not ALL retro games. I'm 13, yet I very much enjoy some classic games like the Super Mario Bros games, the Final Fantasy series, and I practically praise Ocarina of Time like the God it is.
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The guy that wrote this is such a nostalgia case. He mostly just says things like "if you haven't played Xgame back when, then you shouldn't be allowed to say Ygame is good now." Coppled together with some dumb generalizations and the fact that I like most of those games, this certainly wasn't reader worthy IMO.

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The only one I agree with him is Halo. Way overrated series. God of War is a little overrated but not to that extent.
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#70 DonPerian
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As much as i don't, i could defeintly see people agree with this list. I don' think system wars will ever all agree on something.

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I'm pretty sure most on here can agree on the fact that they like to play video games.
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"][QUOTE="cody3232"]

As much as i don't, i could defeintly see people agree with this list. I don' think system wars will ever all agree on something.

I'm pretty sure most on here can agree on the fact that they like to play video games.

Only if it's on THEIR system for most people.
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#72 Cherokee_Jack
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Dumb flamebait. That seems to be the theme of the site.
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What a horrible list

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]He can't get away with dissing Pokemon. He must pay!Midnightshade29

What is up with people on this board loving pokemon? How old are you guys? I am 30 going on 31 in December...Pokemon to me was always a dumb crappy 90's cartoon that went with all the other crappy 90s cartoons. (80's cartoons==a millions times better!!!) ... A game can't really be a rpg if it has no story , no depth, it was a monster rancher type game not a real rpg. There was no dungeon crawling, or party based interactions. No wicked nemesis prime evil conquering the world with heroes going on a global quest of epic proportions trying to right the wrong created by the evil boss. It had non of that. No job cla_$$_es like fighter, theif , ranger, mage, white mage, black mage, time mage, geomancer, etc. etc.. it had no large world map.. it was just some kid roaming around in a game with sub-par visuals collecting cutsie stuffed animal type familars to fight battle arenas for him (as far as I seen of the game).

Pokemon has a lot of those....

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OMG how can you call God of war overrated???And pokemon as well and Grand theft auto the whole list is just like was this person really high or really drunk when they did this?

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if they took out pokymon half life sonic and halo it would not be half bad
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#77 surrealnumber5
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This list SUCKS!

http://old-wizard.com/top-10-most-overrated-video-game-franchises

Whoever made this list was either 1. a total Nintendo fanboy 2. a troll out to piss everybody off 3. just plain stupid or 4. all of the above. Honestly, read his points. They're ridiculous.

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how would this list make one a nintendo fanboy when only teken halo god of war and half life are the only ones not on a nintendo system

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#78 VendettaRed07
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Ive said it before and ill say it again

It is not POSSIBLE to make a better rpg for the original gameboy, than pokemon. I doubt even god himself could... and im serious lol Pokemon is so good, that i pretty much buy the same game every other year or so and when it comes out i dont even do anything else for like 2 months. Especially the Gold/silver remakes.... omg, Thats my most wanted game, because silver and gold was the best... its only problem was that it was for the gameboy color lol When that hits the DS, dont expect me to be on these forums for a while

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And did they really say, you MIGHT be able to call sonic 2 a great game???? and then went on to say that the series got stale with 3 because it didnt add anything new???? Are they out of their MINDS? Sonic 3 was godly, and so where the first 2

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the word "overrated" is highly overrated.....
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the word "overrated" is highly overrated.....ReaperV7
Yeah well you're overrated. /jk

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He DISSED POKEMON?!?!?!? HE MUST FACE THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!
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HE DISSED OLD SONIC?! Death penalty obviously.
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#84 gamedude234
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its OK exwpt he dissed pokemon. you can't say its for 8-year-olds, i mean, would a little kid be able to play the game properly?no. i'm glad tekken and guitar hero is on that list.:)

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I agree with everything on this list except Half-Life.
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#86 SpiritOfFire117
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I agree with everything on this list except Half-Life.captain_diego
If you agreed with everything on this "list" you would had went all the way and left HL on it because you can't praise HL while at the same time put down the 9 other gaming "sacred cows".
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Tekken, Sonic, Halo, HL, and Ghosts N' Goblins are somewhat true. Rest is just plain wrong.

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that kid played WOW all day i bet.
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#89 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts
I had to stop at the Halo one. Mein gott. That was *horrible* "Does Halo really compare to old SNES classics like Super Metroid or Mega Man 2?" "THave these people ever played GoldenEye or pretty much any other first person shooter made since Doom 2?" Shame when idiots have a website to display their idiocy.
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#90 Cherokee_Jack
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"Does Halo really compare to old SNES classics like Super Metroid or Mega Man 2?"skrat_01
At that point you stop taking the piece seriously and realize that it's just parody. Really bad parody.
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#91 Vesica_Prime
Member since 2009 • 7062 Posts

Heh look at his top ten best videogame franchises list. Rather Nintendo orientated really.

Overall the whole site is a whole bunch of nostalgia filled bull****, usually saying that videogames should never had jumped into 3D, that linear level crawls/dungeon crawls are better. To be honest as the name of the website suggests, its basically what I expect from a senile old man blabbing out stupid crap that Half Life is over-rated despite the fact that it won 50 GOTY awards and revolutionized (in reviewer's eyes) the first person shooter genre and that 96% is a "average rating". Also said that Super Mario 64 is one of the most overrated games of all time. Also old man Jenkins said despite the fact the CD-i, 3DO and other horrible consoles exists and made a bashing of SEGA consoles.

To be honest, old man Jenkins should stop typing bull**** on the internet and just try to remember where he places his false teeth.

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#92 abuabed
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I kinda agree....with you TC :D
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#93 adamosmaki
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Just like one of the comments of the link you gave they guy says half life lacks enemies yet he says he only played it 2hours. Both in half life 1 and 2 after the first 1-2 hours the game become much much much better ( in HL1 you spend about an hour doing almost nothing at the begining same with HL2).