OK we now know R&C won't top SMG.

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#1 darth-pyschosis
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Face it. Wii games might get the bad end of reviews from poorly written ones like the MP3 but 8.5 and 8.8 for twilight princess, 8.9 for super paper mario and 8.5 for zacl & wiki ain't bad.

now that ratchet and clank on PS3 has gotten a 7.5 here on GSpot it will take some sort of moneumental failure for galaxy to score lower or even with it.

I mean the whole idea of galaxy is introducing new physics,better graphics, more varied and new puzzles, and multiplayer, new 3D elements (like boo, bee, fire suits) to the traditional mario mix.

add a new princess, and the invading alien ships that have some mysterious link to bowser and you've got one updated piece of software.

Ninty is taking a risk with Galaxy like they did with Wind Waker, Metroid Prime (being a FPS and all) and the DS and the Wii themselves.

Super Mario Galaxy will score higher than R&C.

I am saying right now, if GameSpot writes as poor a review for Super Mario Galaxy and scores it under 7.5 (under!) I will leave system wars forever. I will stick to that.

Now I know you'll say "hey the cows didn't see the R&C review coming it was AAA but they said A. That could happen to Galaxy too"

and you're right it could happen.

GSpot gave sunshine a 8.0 amidst loads of 9's and 9.5's in 2002.

But I'm willing to take that risk.

but enough i have a poll

go to it

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#2 Oroin
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I think SMG will do great, it has to in my case. (it's my main reason to get a wii)I don't go by score but it will certainly boost my want for a wii. oh and --I am saying right now, if GameSpot writes as poor a review for Super Mario Galaxy and scores it under 7.5 (under!) I will leave system wars forever. I will stick to that. -- I won't sig this but I'll hold you to it..
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#3 mllrmatt8
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i think mario has it but we'll have to look out for banjo
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#4 -Tretiak
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Considering the original Rare team is back together to make Banjo, I have high hopes for it. But I think it's clear that SMG owns 2007 as far as platformers go.
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#6 raynimrod
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I still don't think SMG will be as good as RnC. GS just did a shoddy review imo. I love the game, and its AAA on Gamerankings. I'm starting to get over GS reviews since they're becoming so.... strange
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#7 NECR0CHILD313
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Unless they do something catastrophic that we haven't seen yet, that's so bad that it makes Sonic LOL in Mario's face, I think your assertion is correct.
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#8 dream431ca
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R&C and SMG are two very different games. Both are great games (despite the review of R&C). I have no doubt SMG will be great.
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#9 instantdeath999
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Ratchet did not flop, but I think smg will be better
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#10 TheDarkDisciple
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Definately Banjo. You can try and doubt it all you want, but the fact is, Rare are some great devs and the previous Banjo games that they made were excellent.
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#11 darth-pyschosis
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feel free to hold me to my bet.

how didn't R&C flop? I thought it was hyped here AAA? It was right?

so why wouldn't that be a flop? its two whole points lower.

geez at least MP3and TP were CLOSE to the whole AAA.

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#12 DaAznSaN
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Banjo has a good shot but I believe SMG will be the better game still.
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#13 amorbis1001
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banjo MIGHT do good.
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#14 iamshivy
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iv only liked 2-d mario, sorry
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#15 Xolver
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R&C > SMG.

Look, there were three main gripes with the game in the review, this is how it would look for SMG:

Story: Story...?

Difficulty: Ehhh...

Too many game mechanics: Not sure about that one, you tell me.

That said, I think SMG would outscore R&C anyway, with the reviewer being different.

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#16 i-lick-monkeys
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ratchet still has a huge chance,scores dont matter when picking GOTY
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#17 wiretoss
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I think the story for SMG is a lot better than any previous mario game. o_o
Even if it is simple.
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#18 Xolver
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I think the story for SMG is a lot better than any previous mario game. o_o
Even if it is simple.wiretoss

Elaborate.

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#19 jackvegas21
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ratchet still has a huge chance,scores dont matter when picking GOTYi-lick-monkeys

True. Lair could win GOTY.

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#20 wiretoss
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[QUOTE="wiretoss"]I think the story for SMG is a lot better than any previous mario game. o_o
Even if it is simple.Xolver

Elaborate.

Well ENTIRE story details aren't known but:
With 64 he went into the castle collecting stars to save Peach.
In Sunshine, He used a water gun to destroy graffiti and light up a city to save Peach.

o_o There must be SOME REASON he's in space.
It'd have to be a pretty good reason too.
It's obvious it'll have something to do with Peach's kidnapping but I jfdsaklj dunno how to explain into words really.
Just feels more... 'twisty' than other mario games.

The new princess for example.

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#21 Hippostrike
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[QUOTE="wiretoss"]I think the story for SMG is a lot better than any previous mario game. o_o
Even if it is simple.Xolver

Elaborate.

Mario Galaxy has a story? Platformers never needed a decent story just as long as the gameplay was solid. Look at the first Donkey Kong Country. The story was basically "King K-Rool stole the Banana Hoard"
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#22 Big_Boss465
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Just to make one thing clear, Ratchet and Clank scored AAA overwhelmingly everywhere else. That being said I would find it hard to believe that SMG scores below an 8 here (but I said that about Ratchet too). I hope they do SMG justice, unlike they did to Ratchet, that game is amazing and I have no doubt that I will enjoy SMG just as much.
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#23 ZeldaMaster32
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Banjo will dethrone Super Mario Galaxy. It's only a matter of time.

SMG has an iron grip on 2007 though. Nothing can touch it.

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#24 mastarifla
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The Banjo series is the highest rated platforming series of all time... I have high hopes ( even though it has only been 2 games :/ )
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#25 Zenkuso
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I think if galaxy turns out anything like SM64 did then its not going to be topped by another platformer, banjo came close but still was no smoke an cigar ;)
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#26 mastarifla
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I think if galaxy turns out anything like SM64 did then its not going to be topped by another platformer, banjo came close but still was no smoke an cigar ;)Zenkuso
Check those reviews again bud ;) SM64 9.4 Banjo Kazooie 9.5
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#27 ff7isnumbaone
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banjo and jack have a good chance at gs.
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#28 wiretoss
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[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]I think if galaxy turns out anything like SM64 did then its not going to be topped by another platformer, banjo came close but still was no smoke an cigar ;)mastarifla
Check those reviews again bud ;) SM64 9.4 Banjo Kazooie 9.5

You obviously don't understand that a game doesn't sell COMPLETELY based on it's game spot review.

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#29 Paper_Knife
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theres not even a new jak anounced... is there?
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#30 KhanhAgE
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geez at least MP3and TP were CLOSE to the whole AAA.

darth-pyschosis

Just because GS didn't give R&C a AAA score doesn't mean it's not a AAA title. According to the press it is.

If not, I guess you're agreeing with GS that MP3 and TP aren't AAA titles (which they are according to the press).

Geeeeez.

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#31 rybe1025
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Ya got to hand it to Mario that short fat italian plumber sure makes the best platform games.
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#32 Xolver
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[QUOTE="Xolver"]

[QUOTE="wiretoss"]I think the story for SMG is a lot better than any previous mario game. o_o
Even if it is simple.Hippostrike

Elaborate.

Mario Galaxy has a story? Platformers never needed a decent story just as long as the gameplay was solid. Look at the first Donkey Kong Country. The story was basically "King K-Rool stole the Banana Hoard"

You mean Nintendo platformers.

[QUOTE="Xolver"]

[QUOTE="wiretoss"]I think the story for SMG is a lot better than any previous mario game. o_o
Even if it is simple.wiretoss

Elaborate.

Well ENTIRE story details aren't known but:
With 64 he went into the castle collecting stars to save Peach.
In Sunshine, He used a water gun to destroy graffiti and light up a city to save Peach.

o_o There must be SOME REASON he's in space.
It'd have to be a pretty good reason too.
It's obvious it'll have something to do with Peach's kidnapping but I jfdsaklj dunno how to explain into words really.
Just feels more... 'twisty' than other mario games.

The new princess for example.

So basically, he SAVES PEACH, that automatically means there's no story beyond the first Mario's

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#33 chocolate1325
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Nothing will Super Mario Galaxy is gonna be the best platformer this gen.
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#34 Tjeremiah1988
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IF its ture the orignal team that made the first Banjo is coming back to make the 360 version, then it might have a chance of out scoring SMG, but not by much.
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#35 blahzor
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There really is no way in hell to know.

All we can speak on now is preference. Someone prefers Banjo, therefore they'll bank on it doing better... and noone can argue against it, since we no nothing about the game.

Mario galaxy could get a 10, and there would still be a chance any platformer to be released in this gen could top it.. we can't know until it's all over.

With that said, I have always loved mario so i hope his latest adventure will be so grand that it would appear as though nothing could ever touch him.. but of course, for teh sake of great games i would like to think that there will be games that at least match up.

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#36 sexy_chimp
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I honestly think SMG will be regarded as the best platformer ever made.

The only competition for SMG is Banjo 3, but its a year late so sorry Banjo :P

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#37 cosmostein77
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I still don't think SMG will be as good as RnC. GS just did a shoddy review imo. I love the game, and its AAA on Gamerankings. I'm starting to get over GS reviews since they're becoming so.... strangeraynimrod

With RnC going from a 96.2% to a 94.1% to a 92.6% and now a 90.2% on game rankings,

Its looking like GS's review is looking less and less "crazy"

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#38 cosmostein77
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GSpot gave sunshine a 8.0 amidst loads of 9's and 9.5's in 2002.

But I'm willing to take that risk.

but enough i have a poll

go to it

darth-pyschosis

Perhaps its the benefit of hindsight,

But I still play Super Mario Bros 1 and 3, I play Super Mario World every so often, and even now and then I still toss in Mario 64.

When was the last time you played Mario Sunshine?

Perhaps its just me, but looking back it was the weakest true mario and the 8.0 was not unjustifed.

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#39 Kratos_OMEGA
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If Banjo 3 lives up to N64 Banjo's then Mario Galaxy can say goodbye. Because BK>mario 64 and while SMG will be amazing it's not on the godly level that SM64 was. BK was on a godly level too. But chances are slim. SMG will be the best platformer.........until the next DK platformer on wii. Yes you heard me, a DK64-esque platformer. It will happen.
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#40 sexy_chimp
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If Banjo 3 lives up to N64 Banjo's then Mario Galaxy can say goodbye. Because BK>mario 64 and while SMG will be amazing it's not on the godly level that SM64 was. BK was on a godly level too. But chances are slim. SMG will be the best platformer.........until the next DK platformer on wii. Yes you heard me, a DK64-esque platformer. It will happen.Kratos_OMEGA

Hopefully if there is a new Donkey Kong it won't be a collect-a-thon like Donkey 64. Banjo Kazooie did it just right, Donkey Kong 64 just went overboard.

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#41 amourkiss
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yeah, Mario games are always high ranked

but they all play the same

same characters, same story lines, same moves ...

but it appeal to general public again and again

that's our beloved plumper

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#42 the_h_bomb
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posssibly banjo

POSSIBLY

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#43 Sgt_Crow
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Banjo and Kazooie. :)
Probally one of my most favorite game IP's of all time.
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#44 VendettaRed07
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R&C > SMG.

Look, there were three main gripes with the game in the review, this is how it would look for SMG:

Story: Story...?

Difficulty: Ehhh...

Too many game mechanics: Not sure about that one, you tell me.

That said, I think SMG would outscore R&C anyway, with the reviewer being different.

Xolver
im sure rachet is easier than smg
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#45 Private_Vegas
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Banjo will give Mario a run for his money, but I don't think he will surpass.
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#46 Sonicplys
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Galaxy will be the undisputed king of platformers. Banjo wont even come close since MS ruined Rare (if Rare want back to Nintendo, Banjo 3 could be a contender for Galaxy)
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#47 ultima-flare
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Well if SMG is reviewed on the same standard as R&C, it should score lower...Why?

1. SMG has more variety than R&C, apparently variety is bad

2. SMG has a poor story, apparently story is a gamebreaker for this genre

3. It'll be too easy like R&C, but at least R&C let's you unlock hard mode(mario games have never had diffuculty levels)

4. Gamespot has flopped two of the biggest wii games so far(LoZ:TTP and MP3).

Of course, every other website will rate SMG 9.0+...

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#48 sexy_chimp
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Well if SMG is reviewed on the same standard as R&C, it should score lower...Why?

1. SMG has more variety than R&C, apparently variety is bad

2. SMG has a poor story, apparently story is a gamebreaker for this genre

3. It'll be too easy like R&C, but at least R&C let's you unlock hard mode(mario games have never had diffuculty levels)

4. Gamespot has flopped two of the biggest wii games so far(LoZ:TTP and MP3).

Of course, every other website will rate SMG 9.0+...

ultima-flare

Why does everybody assume SMG will be easy?

I read somewhere that they had to stop Miyamoto from making the game too hard.

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#49 mastarifla
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Galaxy will be the undisputed king of platformers. Banjo wont even come close since MS ruined Rare (if Rare want back to Nintendo, Banjo 3 could be a contender for Galaxy)Sonicplys
How does that even make sense? They have the original team working on the third installment... MS didn't stump the creativity of the team at all and how would going back to Nintendo help?
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#50 sainraja
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GameSpot was ONE site that gave R&C a low score. Every other site gave it a high score. It is an AAA title.