Okami On Wii Didn't Do So Well

[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Maybe it's too hardcore for the Wii?

air_wolf_cubed

Brawl at best is a casual fighting game. And thats if you even call it a fighting game to begin with.

It's also fan service.

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

ughhhh i'm not going to get into this agian....

[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]I'm really wondering what turned people off on this game. I really dont see any reason why this game shouldnt have at least broken 500k on both platforms.laughingman42

I don't think anything turned them off. It's just that they never heard of it.

I'm not just talking about main stream gamers, I'm talking about people that do alot of gaming. It was advertised in gaming mags and had lots of very positive previews comparing it to Zelda (which as you know sells very well)

Zelda is an established franchise. The number of people who are familiar with it has been steadily growing since the NES. Okami on the other had to stand alone.

BTW, this is exactly why Nintendo publishes so many titles with Mario. His name is one of the best known in the entire video game industry!

For port, that was unknown to begin with, that had virtually no additional extras, or advertising, I would say those sales numbers are extremely solid.

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

insanejedi

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

Brawl at best is a casual fighting game. And thats if you even call it a fighting game to begin with.

It's also fan service.

insanejedi

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

ughhhh i'm not going to get into this agian....

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

fishfake

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

[QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

SER69

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

fishfake

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

Sure, when you first get in you can butten mash and you'll pull off some fantastic looking combos, but when you get into mid level and high level play you have to learn the counter system, and every single online match i have been through cannot be won by straight butten mashing. You have to predict each move that comes out of the oponent to both counter and mix up your attacks correctly in order to win, and the fast pace of this makes it even harder. Quick reflexes, memorization, mixing up the attacks, and prediction makes it a skill based game.

[QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

insanejedi

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

Sure, when you first get in you can butten mash and you'll pull off some fantastic looking combos, but when you get into mid level and high level play you have to learn the counter system, and every single online match i have been through cannot be won by straight butten mashing. You have to predict each move that comes out of the oponent to both counter and mix up your attacks correctly in order to win, and the fast pace of this makes it even harder. Quick reflexes, memorization, mixing up the attacks, and prediction makes it a skill based game.

and why if ist so hardcore they never want it on EVO ?:D

[QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

insanejedi

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

Sure, when you first get in you can butten mash and you'll pull off some fantastic looking combos, but when you get into mid level and high level play you have to learn the counter system, and every single online match i have been through cannot be won by straight butten mashing. You have to predict each move that comes out of the oponent to both counter and mix up your attacks correctly in order to win, and the fast pace of this makes it even harder. Quick reflexes, memorization, mixing up the attacks, and prediction makes it a skill based game.

[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

SER69

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

Sure, when you first get in you can butten mash and you'll pull off some fantastic looking combos, but when you get into mid level and high level play you have to learn the counter system, and every single online match i have been through cannot be won by straight butten mashing. You have to predict each move that comes out of the oponent to both counter and mix up your attacks correctly in order to win, and the fast pace of this makes it even harder. Quick reflexes, memorization, mixing up the attacks, and prediction makes it a skill based game.

[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

fishfake

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

Sure, when you first get in you can butten mash and you'll pull off some fantastic looking combos, but when you get into mid level and high level play you have to learn the counter system, and every single online match i have been through cannot be won by straight butten mashing. You have to predict each move that comes out of the oponent to both counter and mix up your attacks correctly in order to win, and the fast pace of this makes it even harder. Quick reflexes, memorization, mixing up the attacks, and prediction makes it a skill based game.

and why if ist so hardcore they never want it on EVO ?:D

Becuase EVO's games are based on popularity and DOA has always been the underdog to other 3D fighting games and since DOA isin't the most popular thats why it's not on the list. I'm sure if it sold somewhere around 8 million copies they'd be all over it. Hence why i think if Smash Bro's only sold shy of 1 million copies EVO woulden't care for it.

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

I heard the port is lazily put together.

Is this true?

Haziqonfire

What?? How could you possible say that? It worked perfectly for me every single time. Now that I think about it thought though I had a bit of trouble using the powerslash when I put the Rubber cover on as it was reducing the pointer sensitivity but as soon as I took it back off I was back to 100% accuracy.

Becuase EVO's games are based on popularity and DOA has always been the underdog to other 3D fighting games and since DOA isin't the most popular thats why it's not on the list. I'm sure if it sold somewhere around 8 million copies they'd be all over it. Hence why i think if Smash Bro's only sold shy of 1 million copies EVO woulden't care for it.

insanejedi

If you're really going to base EVO by sales then you my friend F'N fail.

You really think games like CvS2, MvC2, and Guilty Gear were big sellers? You really think these games are selling over a million copies?

Dead or Alive 3 and Dead or Alive 4 were both million sellers which can't be said for games such as CvS2, MvC2, and GG. Evo is not based on game sales but rather a competitive strong community willing to compete.

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

Becuase EVO's games are based on popularity and DOA has always been the underdog to other 3D fighting games and since DOA isin't the most popular thats why it's not on the list. I'm sure if it sold somewhere around 8 million copies they'd be all over it. Hence why i think if Smash Bro's only sold shy of 1 million copies EVO woulden't care for it.

Blackbond

If you're really going to base EVO by sales then you my friend F'N fail.

You really think games like CvS2, MvC2, and Guilty Gear were big sellers? You really think these games are selling over a million copies?

Dead or Alive 3 and Dead or Alive 4 were both million sellers which can't be said for games such as CvS2, MvC2, and GG. Evo is not based on game sales but rather a competitive strong community willing to compete.

dear capcom,

make some Okami commercials. Not just one for japan, but for everywhere. Then talk to me about low okami sales.

kthnx

redmetal86

its not that easy... Its niche game and only appeals to a certain audience... its not a "casual" game and even some core gamers will turn there nose up at it, in favour of something with guns like Army of Two e.t.c

I heard the port is lazily put together.

Is this true?

DeathScape666

I don't know why I never bought Okami for the ps2. I really should get it for the PS3 since I got that with the MGS4 bundle.

From what I understand though from people I know and talked to, its not really a hard game, theres no real challenge to it. I like to play games that are just insanely difficult and designed to be practically impossible. This doesn't seem like that.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Maybe it's too hardcore for the Wii?

air_wolf_cubed

Brawl isn't hardcore(I feel stupid for using this term...)

anyone here who hasnt bought it, go buy it. PS2 or wii, it doesent matter (though id recommend the wii version). it really is a stunning game.

still what were capcom expecting? it failed to sell well on the PS2 with an install base of well over 100million when okami launched.

they just hevent backed this game properly....not on the PS2 and certainly no better on the wii.

like other greats like giants, its doomed to a very small market.

anyone here who hasnt bought it, go buy it. PS2 or wii, it doesent matter (though id recommend the wii version). it really is a stunning game.

osan0

Well, if their looking to boost the sales number, buying the PS2 version wont help since Capcom is no longer shipping any more new copies.

Not that I don't want people to buy that version. By all means I incourage people to get it, it's the better version. But if you want to help boost sales, if you can't find the PS2 version or if you can't stand to play games that don't support wide screen the Wii version is a good alternative.

[QUOTE="Baird-06"]Is this really that surprising?dracula_16

Nope. It sold poorly on the PS2 and it was destined to do poorly on the Wii. It's unfortunate.

Another example of a good game without a decent marketing campaign.

Beyond Good and Evil, anyone?

[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="fishfake"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]

I'm just saying thats if you even consider it a fighting game. I dont, maybe you do, but at best its a casual fighting game. It's not hardcore like VF5 style or even DOA style...

fishfake

why not telling us what DOA makes so Hardcore?;)

Sure, when you first get in you can butten mash and you'll pull off some fantastic looking combos, but when you get into mid level and high level play you have to learn the counter system, and every single online match i have been through cannot be won by straight butten mashing. You have to predict each move that comes out of the oponent to both counter and mix up your attacks correctly in order to win, and the fast pace of this makes it even harder. Quick reflexes, memorization, mixing up the attacks, and prediction makes it a skill based game.

and why if ist so hardcore they never want it on EVO ?:D

its actually in the gaming championship here in the UK, i think birmingham won the uk one, now other countries are coming to face them.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="Baird-06"]Is this really that surprising?IronBass

Nope. It sold poorly on the PS2 and it was destined to do poorly on the Wii. It's unfortunate.

Another example of a good game without a decent marketing campaign.

Beyond Good and Evil, anyone?

This game is so hard to find. I looked every where for the X-box version so I could play it in 720 p on my 360, but when I finally found it, it turns out it's not in the 360's backward compatibility line up. So I had to take it back and now I'm just looking for the Gamecube or PS2 versions.

Really?Considering how well they advertised the game,I'd expect it to be on the best-sellers list.Oh,wait...

Every thread turns into a Brawl thread nowadays. :P

I had actually completely forgotten about Okami. Well, I guess that shows how much they advertised it...

Every thread turns into a Brawl thread nowadays. :P

I had actually completely forgotten about Okami. Well, I guess that shows how much they advertised it...

Tsug_Ze_Wind

like I said before i don't reckon its a "casual" game and even some core gamers will turn there nose up at it, in favour of something with guns like Army of Two

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Maybe it's too hardcore for the Wii?

insanejedi

Brawl at best is a casual fighting game. And thats if you even call it a fighting game to begin with.

It's also fan service.

fan service? you make that sound like its a bad thing. so let me get this straight:

MGS4: fan service game, but its on the ps3 so thats ok

SSBB: fan service game, but its on the wii so thats not ok

People were too busy buying WiiFit and WiiMusic and Wii Sports 2 to buy this masterpiece.death919

People were too busy buying WiiFit and WiiMusic and Wii Sports 2 to buy this masterpiece.death919

yeah, they were busy buying 2 games that havent even been released. and yet it still also outsold the ps2 version as well... interesting...

Okami truly is the best game nobody played.Cyberfairy

Its funny this tread came up, Im actually playing it on the wii right now. Im 22 hrs in and would say it is one of the best games I have ever played. Its a really good game, for me the best the wii has to offer, I really cant believe more people are not buying it. Its a ******* same games like this dont sell. Soon we may not get anymore GEMs like this and games will all be casual.

[QUOTE="SER69"]Okami (Ps2) 250K (shipped units) Okami (Wii) 280K (shipped units)ThePlothole

Wow. O_o

And considering that the Wii's install base is much smaller than the PS2's...