Okay, how many of you are actually buying into the Cloud Processing concept?

Best believe it. When a developer said there would be Avatar quality graphics on the next Xbox, he wasnt kidding. Teh Cloud means unlimited power.

I'm not buying into it, but I'm interested to see how it is implemented.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

95% marketing hype.

Heil68

Are you being sarcastic.

Sony need to come out and reveal that the PS4 is actually ten times more powerful than previously thought due to magical fairy dust. Can't let MS corner the market on gullible people.JamDev

Whos the gullible ones?  You are the ones jumping to damning conclusions without stepping back to look at the little information that's there.

Xbox One's successor revealed.

This is it folks, what the system will look like.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It's just marketing jargon. Bad marketing jargon. The fanboys are eating it up. 

Heil68

[QUOTE="JamDev"]Sony need to come out and reveal that the PS4 is actually ten times more powerful than previously thought due to magical fairy dust. Can't let MS corner the market on gullible people.GOGOGOGURT

Whos the gullible ones?  You are the ones jumping to damning conclusions without stepping back to look at the little information that's there.

Unnamed exclusives, side by side that wasn't side by side, ingame that wasn't ingame, gazillion transistors which is meaningless. Everything they said was twisted and fake so why would you believe in the Magic Cloud.

Its a Trojan horse to shoe-horn in AO-DRM.clyde46

I'd say the same.

If MS said we're only getting AO-DRM, a huge backlash happens.

But if they say we're getting some awesome extra features that require constant Internet connection, gamers will find it easier to swallow, and some will even hype it. Still, that "unlimited power" is just a bad PR, since it's well established how "teh cloud processing" can only be used for some basic stuff...

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Its a Trojan horse to shoe-horn in AO-DRM.Rocker6

I'd say the same.

If MS said we're only getting AO-DRM, a huge backlash happens.

But if they say we're getting some awesome extra features that require constant Internet connection, gamers will find it easier to swallow, and some will even hype it. Still, that "unlimited power" is just a bad PR, since it's well established how "teh cloud processing" can only be used for some basic stuff...

This could be good only for MP-centric games, imo.

And even then there's the question what happens if the main server goes down.

I use cloud computing literally everyday at work, so it's not some made up BS tech that has no use or purpose when it comes to computing. I don't see why MS couldn't use it to make a better experience/game.Senor_Kami

T3H P0W4H OF T3H CLOUD!!!!!!!!1111one!! PEE ES QUAD IS T3H FINISH3D!!!11ONE!

even if you could use a cloud service to render graphics, it cant be done using imaginary hardware.

so per user there would have to be a piece of hardware somewhere that can render graphics equal to or beyond what the xbox one can do?

even if you could use a cloud service to render graphics, it cant be done using imaginary hardware.

so per user there would have to be a piece of hardware somewhere that can render graphics equal to or beyond what the xbox one can do?

slikonebtz

Just did some basic, preliminary math.

quadrupling the Xbox One's power would require 273.2 gb/s, or 279757 mb/s.

Verizon FiOS, which currently is just about the fastest internet service available on the commercial market is only 35mb/s.

This means that you would need an internet speed ~7993X faster than FiOS.

Yeah, uh no. Not happening. By the time internet tech has evolved to be that fast quadrupling the X1's power will be a completely trivial amount. Cloud Processing is USELESS and has no real future.

PraetorianMan

Soooooo wrong.

check my sig

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

Just did some basic, preliminary math.

quadrupling the Xbox One's power would require 273.2 gb/s, or 279757 mb/s.

Verizon FiOS, which currently is just about the fastest internet service available on the commercial market is only 35mb/s.

This means that you would need an internet speed ~7993X faster than FiOS.

Yeah, uh no. Not happening. By the time internet tech has evolved to be that fast quadrupling the X1's power will be a completely trivial amount. Cloud Processing is USELESS and has no real future.

moistsandwich

Soooooo wrong.

check my sig

If I can already play full games through the cloud with decent graphics, I see no reason why we wouldnt be able to stream some decent enhancements into a game.Androvinus

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]I use cloud computing literally everyday at work, so it's not some made up BS tech that has no use or purpose when it comes to computing. I don't see why MS couldn't use it to make a better experience/game.legalize82

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]I use cloud computing literally everyday at work, so it's not some made up BS tech that has no use or purpose when it comes to computing. I don't see why MS couldn't use it to make a better experience/game.clyde46

Even if they got that to work I'm against it. Doesn't that imply the console becomes completely useless down the line when Microsoft no longer supports it? No thanks

41% of people are gullible.

Onlive tried to do this and failed big time. MS wont be able to do this for at least 10 years. People need faster internet.

I do. MS will never have to release another console ever, they can just harness the power of teh cloudz. Will save xbox fans a ton of money down the road. Heil68

Load up any webpage and it will take a few seconds for the images to load if you haven't been there before (if you have your local harddrive will speed things up by loading locally). The difference between loading a website assets up over the net vs your hard drive are huge!!!! Now instead of photos for websites, do that with 100s to 1000s of mb of texture data and you have a problem. Evne a slight delay will cause choppyness in your framerates. It would cause the "pop-in" effect and large hitches all over the place. Plus there is no standard net speed so its a moving target. No dev in their right mind would do this!!!

The only thing that ms will use the cloud for, most likely will be for multiplayer back-ends like Cod elite or the battlefield 3 thing. Also for on server rendering of a whole game and then sending the content over (which what onlive and gaikai do). plus storage. And the evil data mining from the always online camera... Wont even go there in this thread though.

So Heil68, I thought you had sense seeing that you were praising the ps4... .yet now I see you must be a gullible sheep following BS from a company known for bs and anti-consumer policies. I hope your comment was sarcastic or just trolling.

Even if they got that to work I'm against it. Doesn't that imply the console becomes completely useless down the line when Microsoft no longer supports it? No thanks

Pikminmaniac

95% marketing hype.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

95% marketing hype.

Heil68

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] "We're provisioning for developers for every physical Xbox One we build, we're provisioning the CPU and storage equivalent of three Xbox Ones on the cloud," http://www.oxm.co.uk/54748/xbox-one-specs-are-boosted-by-the-equivalent-of-three-xbox-ones-in-the-cloud/ It's a reality Was, coupled with some new IPs make me excited for the first time in 4 years for xbox. Heil68

So now you're on the other side.

Fantastic...

I don't like Cloud Gaming at all.

I honestly have no idea what it is.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

So now you're on the other side.

Fantastic...

Midnightshade29

good god :lol:

UNLIMITED POOOOOWWWWWAH!!!!! YEAH BABY!! The true denial is in not realizing that the PS4 will become irrevelevant in less than six months!!!! CLOUD POWAH!!!greensand24

he he

its funny to read muppets argue about a thing they dont understand.