Pardon me, but I find that a stupid reason to hate Sony, especially since it was more Sega's fault for their own demise in the first place.
ok...i must admit. although i like sony, i do have some reserved anger at them
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="slvrraven9"] i dont know where i should begin to dismember your arguement so ill just start where it seems to fit. sega already had the audience that was more "mature" than nintendo so no sony did not originate that idea, they capitalized off of it sure. but originat.....far from it. if you want to name titles i can but we'd be going all night with this back and forth thing. segas console has always been geared towards the more adult crowd over nintendo. and no sony was NOT the first console to do true 3d...if im correct sega did have the first 3d game on a console by creating the "virtua games"go back if you cant remember the times....and no sega did not intendo to do anything "video" with gaming. sega concentrated on making a console and pushing it to the know limits by adding and doing the most with the tech that was in their hands and to be quite honest for that time, yes they did do a much better time than sony. the fact is sony had a much longer time to "perfect their technique" than sega. and no sony did not pioneer the forst handle style controller take a look at the first gen saturn controler, is when handles were starting to be found to be more confort. then came the dreamcast wich had a controller soley contoured to the form of your hand. (unless you had little sissy girly hands because it was big) ill give you the fact that sony does have some creative minds behind their games now...and after the saturn died they started with creativity. ico didnt come about until 4 years after the ps2s launch though. but seaman....if anyone remembers that game was creative too...of course there was others but like i said we could go back and forth on that issue all night slvrraven9
Sega didn't actively seek a more mature audience, they simply tolerated violence and sex more liberally than nintendo (the later in Japan).
I'm not saying that sony did the first 3D, i'm saying PS1 was the first console intended for 3D gaming. Saturn was not.
Did much better than sony? The sega saturn was a complete mess. It had two hitachi processors in an attempt to make it more powerful, but they didn't cooperate well and it was extremely difficult to program for. Learn your history please.
Sony had a lot longer to perfect their technique? Sega had been in the industry for quite some time, while Sony simply was left on their own after being abandoned by nintendo. The two systems were released a month apart (Japan).
There were no handles on the first gen saturn controller, i own one. It's a curved shaped pad. The dreamcast followed in the footsteps of the PS1 controller, which also fit in your hand. Both are very comfortable, although the Dreamcast one was excessively large in order to accomodate the vmu.
Yes, I know what seaman is.
I want to note that I do appreciate sega and actually enjoy the sega saturn very much. But I'm not blind to the reality of the situation.
for the record when i was talking about systems using the hardware better than sony i was referring to the dreamcast. i know the saturns operating system though powerful was not dev friendly....and YES when were comparing the dreamcast to the playstation 2 (wich is was the topic in the first place) sony did in fact have more time to perfect their system. when you come into the video game world like sony did....they were not stupid, thyey had knowlege, they know the tech that was out there and they used it. there was no learning curve.....when they DROPPED off from nintendo and yes thats what happened because the fac is nintendo DID NOT drop sony when they were making their joint system. they had experiance at that point. on to the next point, if you look at the ps2 controller and the dreamcast, the only major difference aside from the size was the fact that they added an incline at the top of the controller for the L and R buttons. they both have handles. sony didnt even have analog at first like the dreamcast did. fact is fact....and yes truth be told if sony hadnt included a simple dvd player sega probably would still be around (maybe) making consolesWow, this is full of false information.
You still haven't explained why sony had more time. No learning curve? Are you serious.
No, learn the facts. It was nintendo who broke the deal off with Sony in 1991. The deal was made in 1988 and Sony had big plans for the Snes add on, but Nintendo became worried because they would have to share control, profits, and rights to the add on and add on related games/etc. It was Nintendo who broke off the deal with Sony, not the other way around. In other words, Nintendo dropped Sony.
Uhm, what are you talking about? Sony didn't copy the dreamcast controller.The analogue was introduced with PS1.
This is a PS1 controller.
Yes, they certainly might. I'd honestly rather see sega around than microsoft.
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