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#51 Kaarstein
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[QUOTE="asmallchild"]I did. You ought to re-read my first post. And I mentioned by Xbox issues because it's where my dissatisfaction with faulty hardware stems from. It's not that I dislike Microsoft. I dislike hardware problems. So now fastforward to this generation. I have two companies to pick from because I wanted to be able to enjoy HD movies along with the games. I avoided the Microsoft console not because of it's brand name but because of the rumored hardware issues it suffers from. Hence, my decision to go with the PS3. Nice and logical.

Mayby your intentions were ok, but you have some triggerpoints in your OP that indicates troll or bashing. I`ll try to analyze a bit for you.

alright i've read all of the stuff about sony not being able to deliever and i totally agree...i myself own a ps3 and say it's better than my 360...(of course im thinking hardware...360 wins the games category)...but im tired of people claiming that sony dug itself into a ditch and can't get out...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past....now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one)....so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts and seeing what other people will think.

look...all three consoles are great and offer amazing innovations for this generation...enjoy it while it lasts

limitbreak32
"...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past..." This sentence indicates that Sony has planned to trail behind the others, for somehow miraculassely jumping ahead. This is a classic troll line, and here alot of users will think you are trolling. "now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one" The launch of PS3 vs. launch of 360 pops up regularely, and is always proven to be insignificant. That is because PS3 didnt start the race at the same time as 360, but a year after. It is a benefit for 360 to be early and you cant deny that. If that logic dosent help, then the theory is shattered by the fact that Wii launched two days later and is selling at a much faster pace, but that dosent mean it has sold the most, just because it sold more then 360 compared to this time last year. And then you say that PS3 sales will spike when we come to the christmas season, but deny that 360 (and possibly Wii) will not. This also indicates trolling, since you give one side more advantage over something that benefits all three equally. "so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts" Those are ultimate no-no`s. Never say that you alone, or you and your friends is a statisticly accurate representation. That is always opinion and not statistics. and "Just stating facts" is almost like a curse-word around here. Everyone that say that is lying or is basing all on personal opinion. You may not believe me now, but if you stick around then you will see ;) I dont know if you understand my meaning in why your topic was considered bashing or trolling, but I hope. Hope this explanation helps you in future topics, just always remeber to seperate facts and personal opinion VERY IMPORTANT. :)
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#52 Magical_Zebra
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wishful thinking for the PS3. Good luck with that. btw, 10m in 12 monthes compared to 1.5m in 4 monthes means Sony=Pwned.beinss
Ownage Approved. Approved, and Approved again. Wait a minute. Ju ju just you wait till the games are released, then Sony will pwn... :shock:
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#53 asmallchild
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[QUOTE="Kaarstein"][QUOTE="asmallchild"]I did. You ought to re-read my first post. And I mentioned by Xbox issues because it's where my dissatisfaction with faulty hardware stems from. It's not that I dislike Microsoft. I dislike hardware problems. So now fastforward to this generation. I have two companies to pick from because I wanted to be able to enjoy HD movies along with the games. I avoided the Microsoft console not because of it's brand name but because of the rumored hardware issues it suffers from. Hence, my decision to go with the PS3. Nice and logical.

Mayby your intentions were ok, but you have some triggerpoints in your OP that indicates troll or bashing. I`ll try to analyze a bit for you.

alright i've read all of the stuff about sony not being able to deliever and i totally agree...i myself own a ps3 and say it's better than my 360...(of course im thinking hardware...360 wins the games category)...but im tired of people claiming that sony dug itself into a ditch and can't get out...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past....now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one)....so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts and seeing what other people will think.

look...all three consoles are great and offer amazing innovations for this generation...enjoy it while it lasts

limitbreak32
"...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past..." This sentence indicates that Sony has planned to trail behind the others, for somehow miraculassely jumping ahead. This is a classic troll line, and here alot of users will think you are trolling. "now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one" The launch of PS3 vs. launch of 360 pops up regularely, and is always proven to be insignificant. That is because PS3 didnt start the race at the same time as 360, but a year after. It is a benefit for 360 to be early and you cant deny that. If that logic dosent help, then the theory is shattered by the fact that Wii launched two days later and is selling at a much faster pace, but that dosent mean it has sold the most, just because it sold more then 360 compared to this time last year. And then you say that PS3 sales will spike when we come to the christmas season, but deny that 360 (and possibly Wii) will not. This also indicates trolling, since you give one side more advantage over something that benefits all three equally. "so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts" Those are ultimate no-no`s. Never say that you alone, or you and your friends is a statisticly accurate representation. That is always opinion and not statistics. and "Just stating facts" is almost like a curse-word around here. Everyone that say that is lying or is basing all on personal opinion. You may not believe me now, but if you stick around then you will see ;) I dont know if you understand my meaning in why your topic was considered bashing or trolling, but I hope. Hope this explanation helps you in future topics, just always remeber to seperate facts and personal opinion VERY IMPORTANT. :)

umm...i'm not limitbreak32
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#54 Kaarstein
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Hmmm... What has the Wii sold since launch? 4 million. Also, it launched 2 DAYS after the PS3. It's done what the PS3 couldn't. Also, guess where you are? System Wars. Stop trying to be a pacifist and enlist in your console's army today! Destroy other consoles! Bring back honor! Or, just leave and do something else. It's not like we're forcing you to see what we post here everyday.jyoung312
Um nintendo also had more units to sell bc wiis are easier to mass produce than ps3s so the number of consoles sold is quite deceptive bc you have to think about how many systems were available to buy over that time period. Yes i know the demand for the wii is pretty high and people can't find them whereas many stores have ps3s, but then again how well do those stores make it known to the public that they have ps3s in stock. again we all forget to look at an obvious factor such as availability and I bet that if you look at the number of units sold to the number of units available on store shelves then there are probably more 360s available than there are ps3s than there are wiis, but the wii had much more available at a cheaper price point.

If you want to calculate demand, then you must also ad in the consoles that is already sold. 360 beats PS3 because 360 has already sold somewhere around 10 million and it keeps on selling close to even the PS3 in NA, PS3 beats 360 demand in Japan and Europe is still unknown. But if PS3 would be in higher demand then 360 then there would have to be more then 9 million customers ready to buy a PS3 as soon as they can (Not in "I really really want it", but has already saved up and ready to purchase from the store). And how stores advertise is pretty equal to all the consoles, since the same store usually sell all three. And the fact that Wii had much more availeble at a cheaper price point is an added factor for getting demand for your product. Its a extra advantage for Wii that it has over PS3, and is part of the success. But Wii is not only a lower price-point that is just the extra edge.
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#55 Kaarstein
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[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="Kaarstein"][QUOTE="asmallchild"]I did. You ought to re-read my first post. And I mentioned by Xbox issues because it's where my dissatisfaction with faulty hardware stems from. It's not that I dislike Microsoft. I dislike hardware problems. So now fastforward to this generation. I have two companies to pick from because I wanted to be able to enjoy HD movies along with the games. I avoided the Microsoft console not because of it's brand name but because of the rumored hardware issues it suffers from. Hence, my decision to go with the PS3. Nice and logical.

Mayby your intentions were ok, but you have some triggerpoints in your OP that indicates troll or bashing. I`ll try to analyze a bit for you.

alright i've read all of the stuff about sony not being able to deliever and i totally agree...i myself own a ps3 and say it's better than my 360...(of course im thinking hardware...360 wins the games category)...but im tired of people claiming that sony dug itself into a ditch and can't get out...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past....now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one)....so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts and seeing what other people will think.

look...all three consoles are great and offer amazing innovations for this generation...enjoy it while it lasts

limitbreak32
"...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past..." This sentence indicates that Sony has planned to trail behind the others, for somehow miraculassely jumping ahead. This is a classic troll line, and here alot of users will think you are trolling. "now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one" The launch of PS3 vs. launch of 360 pops up regularely, and is always proven to be insignificant. That is because PS3 didnt start the race at the same time as 360, but a year after. It is a benefit for 360 to be early and you cant deny that. If that logic dosent help, then the theory is shattered by the fact that Wii launched two days later and is selling at a much faster pace, but that dosent mean it has sold the most, just because it sold more then 360 compared to this time last year. And then you say that PS3 sales will spike when we come to the christmas season, but deny that 360 (and possibly Wii) will not. This also indicates trolling, since you give one side more advantage over something that benefits all three equally. "so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts" Those are ultimate no-no`s. Never say that you alone, or you and your friends is a statisticly accurate representation. That is always opinion and not statistics. and "Just stating facts" is almost like a curse-word around here. Everyone that say that is lying or is basing all on personal opinion. You may not believe me now, but if you stick around then you will see ;) I dont know if you understand my meaning in why your topic was considered bashing or trolling, but I hope. Hope this explanation helps you in future topics, just always remeber to seperate facts and personal opinion VERY IMPORTANT. :)

umm...i'm not limitbreak32

Sorry, I get confused when you dont have a avatar or sig :oops: I have probable confused you two alot in this thread for that reason, I usually scroll down fast and read the post and just recognise the person by the images. Could you please get a avatar or sig :oops:
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...now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...limitbreak32
I don't understand this math The 360 sold 10 million in a year. At the rate the ps3 is going: 12 months / 4 months = 3 3 X 1.5 million = 4.5 million per year I know this doesn't include holiday or specific spikes, but it would need to make 5.5 million in spikage.
(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one) limitbreak32
If everyone already had one, then there would be a problem with the world.
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#57 Natural_Mystic
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"(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one)...." Brilliant prediction, you could be an analyst. Everything you wrote about Sony and M$ is absolutely true. The PS3, dispite all its shortcomings, is still 1000 times better than the inferior Xbox 360. It warms my heart to know that there are millions -- one is born every day-- of enthusiastic Sony supporters whom feel as you do. Sincerely, K. Kutaragi
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#58 asmallchild
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[QUOTE="Kaarstein"]Sorry, I get confused when you dont have a avatar or sig :oops: I have probable confused you two alot in this thread for that reason, I usually scroll down fast and read the post and just recognise the person by the images. Could you please get a avatar or sig :oops:



Done :)
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#59 Kaarstein
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[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="Kaarstein"]Sorry, I get confused when you dont have a avatar or sig :oops: I have probable confused you two alot in this thread for that reason, I usually scroll down fast and read the post and just recognise the person by the images. Could you please get a avatar or sig :oops:



Done :)

Thanks :D Much more recognisable.
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#60 AgentVX
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The All Heavenly PS3. Just like all the bests. No one from the other systems like them. They have the bestdrives, Firmware, More capabilitys, THE CELL, online for free,  firmware,2 GREAT controller types, Internet, And the best graphics for like 200 dollars more u get all 3 systems in 1. For all u haters haten on the ps3.

For a launch set of games, compared the same as the 360's hard worked on games, the ps3 compared up toand as good if not BETTER.. jax_oneal

LOL, I had to laugh at this.

Let's see.  Best Drives, hummmm, wait until the warranty is up on your PS3, blow the blueray drive cause it's gonna happen, and try and replace the drive.  Ummmm, wait, there is no replacement drive, that mean a whole new PS3.

The Cell, hahahahaha....serious crippled processor with serious onboard memory issues, overburdened OS overhead, and just plain outright horrible to program for.  The Cell actually cripples the performance of the PS3, as we have seen with virtually all the games it has, that of course unless you like slow frame rates, makes the difficulty of the game that much better.

Free Online, ROTFLOL......I guess we can see what you get for free.  No online for how many multiplats already that have online for the 360.  It's free cause few games are using online, duh!

Best graphics, Bahahahaha.....I like how you generalized that comment.  360 GPU ownz PS3 GPU.  And if I'm not mistaken, (which I'm not) the GPU is the single most important piece of hardware for graphics. 

Lets not get into those rumbleless controllers with that tacky cheap addon they call motion control.  You mean those PS3 controllers that keep losing connection with the PS3 every 15 to 20 minutes.  Those same controllers that once those batteries die, you got to spend another $50 on to buy a whole new controller instead of just a battery.  Sounds just like the Bluray drive, doesn't it.

Oh, the firmware.  You mean the firmware that you had to install before you even got start playing the game, and these are launch systems we are talking about.  Thank god they have those "firmware" updates, cause now at least you have a PS3 that sort of functions like a multimedia device, and not just says on the box.

Sony has failed, and failed miserably with the PS3.  They will still capture a fair size segment, but the good old days of Sony are just in the past.  Time to move out the old, and in with the new. 

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[QUOTE="jax_oneal"]

First. Quit bein a little hippy.. ITS WAR not discuss the gaming console with the other people in mind...

 The thing about the wii, it was good price and is concidered a more... Kids sysstem

Its a little BABY gmain system ooo mARIO SAVE PEACH for the 300th time weeeee. or should i say Wii. Its ok for kids I guess. The only thing it has is a stup-id controller... that sounds fun for about 2 minutes... how expensive are the controlers? thres lik 10 dif 1ns... good for u if u wasted money on a wii

THE 360.,.. whats it got? bad drives, no where near the capabilitys of the ps3. And it is mainly sold beacause of HALO. what if the halo was never made? no xbox! it is  just flat out ridiculous... Why shoulkd u pay for online play? Thats whats great about Firmware! im sure sony will update it till u can do better internet gaming for FREE$$$$$$$$

The All Heavenly PS3. Just like all the bests. No one from the other systems like them. They have the bestdrives, Firmware, More capabilitys, THE CELL, online for free,  firmware,2 GREAT controller types, Internet, And the best graphics for like 200 dollars more u get all 3 systems in 1. For all u haters haten on the ps3.

For a launch set of games, compared the same as the 360's hard worked on games, the ps3 compared up toand as good if not BETTER.. I know the price will go down. think of what people paid for for it thn, whos still saving money. and for every ps3 in a sore i can bet there are 5 somewhereelse.   by 07 holliday i am gonna say 400 for ps3.and by then it qwill be the # new gen system...

Look back at the last gen launch... ps2 #1 xbox # 2 Wii # 3

it will be the same ... ps3,xbox 360, then wii.

Until the next gen.

Kaarstein

:roll: I would much rather be a kiddy Nintendo-fan, and be able to write properly and use logic in my post, instead of beeing "Ãœber-kewl" and obbsesive on a forum. My IQ is getting lower just thinking about typing a post with so much dribble :|

Im so sorry i dont take typing lessons so i can make a lame comeback that has NOTHING to do with what i sead. so what about the wii??? 

Heres the facts...

ps3 - It has the cell, and it has the most processing power of all the systems. It is the strongest. the only thing wrong, it way be a little to strong. the more complex a machine, the harder it is to design the games. which means for the launch, the games were not even close to the ability of the ps3.

wii - it has nothing special about the controller, it is the cheapest. it is not much different form the gamecube. Exept the controller and a little and i mean VERY little bit of power.

since the wii sold what 4 million? ( not 100% acurate with the shipping prices)

the ps3 sold... i dono 2... ps3 is 2 and a half times more expencive so the gross is.. more than wii. there u go. Facts.

ITS A GAMECUBE WITH A FANCY CONTORLLER.

And about ur little uber kewl coment or watver... WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT. i just joined and saw this so i defended the best system out there. So quit trying to be a little hotshot hoping ur little forum pals will back u up with an lol...

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alright i've read all of the stuff about sony not being able to deliever and i totally agree...i myself own a ps3 and say it's better than my 360...(of course im thinking hardware...360 wins the games category)...but im tired of people claiming that sony dug itself into a ditch and can't get out...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past....now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one)....so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts and seeing what other people will think.

look...all three consoles are great and offer amazing innovations for this generation...enjoy it while it lasts

limitbreak32

You mind as well teach a pineapple how to tapdance while you're at it. :D

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#63 MaTT2011
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Well, to be honest, people dont really NEED to bash PS3....... Sony is doing a good enough job of that themselves....
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alright i've read all of the stuff about sony not being able to deliever and i totally agree...i myself own a ps3 and say it's better than my 360...(of course im thinking hardware...360 wins the games category)...but im tired of people claiming that sony dug itself into a ditch and can't get out...i seriously think this is some sort of strategy that they have used in the past....now..the 360 had alot of consoles at launch...and it has sold about 10(?) million units i believe in about a year...the ps3 has only been out for about 4 months and it's already sold about 1.5 million plus its in higher demand and im thinking a spike in about the end of this year when christmas comes around and they'll be more games for it...(360 sales won't spike because of Mass Effect and Halo 3 because everyone already has one)....so those are the statistics...im not bashing anything...just stating facts and seeing what other people will think.

look...all three consoles are great and offer amazing innovations for this generation...enjoy it while it lasts

limitbreak32

Im sorry im sorry! It's just so hard to not bash it when Sony makes it soo SOOO easy :P.

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#65 jax_oneal
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Oh cmon the only dumb thing i saw was the 1200$ Statement... tha was dumb, but other than that i think its doing great. the software is a ittle comlicated but im sure by holiday 07. this feud between 360 and ps3 will be over. ps3 will win the race hands down. I think its firmware updates will help and the titles that have been worked on since forever like gta 5. and many more... When these come out the ps3 will be UNLEashed as i would say.
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#66 Goku004
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[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="-Super-Fly-"]

So the 360 wins in the catagory that counts most (Games) and you want us to stop bashing the overrated PS3.

Don't think that's going to happen.

-Super-Fly-

I value hardware stability more than games. (yeah, I'm a weirdo...but I do) So in that case, the PS3 isn't overrated to me.

So why did you buy a Console again?

He is saying that its important that a console last throughout its lifetime rather than a couple months(360)....afterall....what good are the games if you don't have a console to play it.
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#67 mtron32
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yeah, I'll be picking up my PS3 in a few months, then I can buy HD DVD and Blu Ray.