OMG! DreamCast/PS2 SOOO Similar to PS3/360.. Scary GREAT Read!

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#51 xxxWigginsxxx
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Not this again. Dreamcast didn't have nearly the amount of support that the 360 has. Dreamcast didn't even have EA, the largest 3rd party publisher in the game industry.
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#52 axes03
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10 reasons why the Xbox 360 will succeed where the Dreamcast failed.

Sure, it's easy to come up with some parallels between the two platforms, but will the Xbox 360 go the way of the Dreamcast and have Microsoft abandon it a few years into its life cycle? Extremely unlikely. Microsoft is in a much different position than Sega was a few years ago. Here are some of the top reasons why the Xbox 360 will succeed where the Dreamcast failed.



Its predecessor was a complete failure.


Square, the most important publisher in Japan, never supported the console.


EA, the most important publisher in the U.S., never supported the console.


Dreamcast was too early for broadband gaming; 56K didn't really cut it.


Wasn't backwards compatible.


Sorry Dreamcast fans, but the system's controller really wasn't that great.


Had tons of amazing games...but no Halo 3.


FFVIII released the same day as the Dreamcast.


Former president Bernie Stolar quit right before the system launched, sending a bad sign.


Had a limited budget of only $100 million to market the console.



Following on the heels of the very popular Xbox.


Has the support of Square Enix starting with Final Fantasy XI.


Has the full support of EA, with a whole lineup of titles at launch.


Broadband penetration is getting higher and Xbox Live is unparalleled.


Backwards compatible (mostly).


Has a wireless pad that many claim may be the best controller ever made.


Will have Halo 3. And it will be huge.


Next to no competition at launch.


Solid executive team in J Allard, Robbie Bach, and Peter Moore.


Can, and will, spend whatever it takes to make the Xbox 360 a success.

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10 reasons why the Xbox 360 will succeed where the Dreamcast failed.

Sure, it's easy to come up with some parallels between the two platforms, but will the Xbox 360 go the way of the Dreamcast and have Microsoft abandon it a few years into its life cycle? Extremely unlikely. Microsoft is in a much different position than Sega was a few years ago. Here are some of the top reasons why the Xbox 360 will succeed where the Dreamcast failed.



Its predecessor was a complete failure.


Square, the most important publisher in Japan, never supported the console.


EA, the most important publisher in the U.S., never supported the console.


Dreamcast was too early for broadband gaming; 56K didn't really cut it.


Wasn't backwards compatible.


Sorry Dreamcast fans, but the system's controller really wasn't that great.


Had tons of amazing games...but no Halo 3.


FFVIII released the same day as the Dreamcast.


Former president Bernie Stolar quit right before the system launched, sending a bad sign.


Had a limited budget of only $100 million to market the console.



Following on the heels of the very popular Xbox.


Has the support of Square Enix starting with Final Fantasy XI.


Has the full support of EA, with a whole lineup of titles at launch.


Broadband penetration is getting higher and Xbox Live is unparalleled.


Backwards compatible (mostly).


Has a wireless pad that many claim may be the best controller ever made.


Will have Halo 3. And it will be huge.


Next to no competition at launch.


Solid executive team in J Allard, Robbie Bach, and Peter Moore.


Can, and will, spend whatever it takes to make the Xbox 360 a success.

axes03

whoa thats cool! did u make that?

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#54 sirk1264
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except the ps2 beat dreamcast.. and xbox 360 is beating ps3dipper145

The dreamcast actually was doing quite well. It sold about 10 million in its first year before sega pulled the plug on the system.

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#55 THE_PREZIDENT
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Wait, I thought cows said the 360 is to expensive compared to the PS3.
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#56 osirisomeomi
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Whenever anyone says 'great read' in the topic title, I KNOW it's not a great read. Whenver someone doesn't put it in the title, I still know it's not a great read, but at least it's shorter.
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#57 PdIZZLE-PS3
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[QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"]

[QUOTE="dipper145"]except the ps2 beat dreamcast.. and xbox 360 is beating ps3Yellow_Rose

yeah...in America!..go check over seas...PS3 is owning from all fronts!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182608.html

I'm sorry, did you say something?


:lol: Wow that is amazing it beat it one week by 200 before it drops to 3,000 again...
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#58 Udsen
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Too bad all of that can be silenced with ONE word.

Money.

I'll let you figure it out.;)

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#59 hywel69
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Dreamcast came with a 56K modem. Great online play?
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#60 AgileNate
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The Dreamcast was its own and same goes for the PS3 and 360. The Dreamcast fell because the PS2 could only be good(bad was not an option) with its price and quality also dont forget the Dreamcast problem with pirating. Last I should mention that the Dreamcast didnt catch as many gamers as it should have since IT WAS AN AWESOME CONSOLE THAT SHOULD HAVE NOT FAILED!!!
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#61 DilutedDante
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I'm sorry, but the 360 pad is a flippin modified Dreamcast pad! Thats really a daft point.
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I know this topic has been brought up time and time again but I got bored at work today and was just thinking about how similar the PS2/Dreamcast situation is to the 360/PS3 situation is.. It goes like this..

PS2/Dreamcast Era-Dreamcast color is white, PS2 color was black.

PS3/360 present time-360 Color is white, PS3 color is black

PS2/Dreamcast era-Dreamcast used the same "Last gen" format sony used for PSone games.. CD format. PS2 had "next gen" DVD built in

PS3/360 Present time-360 using Last gen format DVD. PS3 using next gen Blu ray

PS2/Dreamcast Era-Dreamcast had a one year headstart and was outselling PS2 in the first year PS2 released

PS3/360 Present time-360 has one year head start. 360 outselling PS3

PS2/Dreamcast Era-Dreamcast cheaper than PS2

PS3/360 present time-360 Cheaper than PS3

PS2/DreamCast era-Dreamcast known as "revolutionary" since first console to have online gaming.

PS3/360 Present time-Xbox live known as "revolutionary" for its online capablities

PS2/Dreamcast Era- Dreamcast had the most games and better library while PS2 was struggling getting the good games out

PS3/360 Present time-360 has the most games and better librarary while PS3 is struggling getting the good games out

PS2/dreamcast- Media bashes PS2 for being expensive and "TOO Technologically advanced"and devs complaining that its too "Complex" to work on

PS3/360 Present time-Media bashes PS3 for being too expensive and "Too Technogically advanced" and devs complaining its too "Complex" to work on

The list goes on. discuss

ChristopherM80

Your living in the past dude, Sony has a slim chance of doing what it did to the dreamcast without GTA or anything else really for that matter (no offence)

Maybe next generation?

BTW Blue-Ray really isn't "next-gen" it hasn't even proven itself worthy yet in the market, nor has HD-DVD for that matter.

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#63 briney1819
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this makes almost zero sense. it's like the ps3 fanboys are holding onto the fact that the 360 is PREDESTINED to fail as though if a company makes their console a certain color it's going to fail lol. why don't we just judge the consoles off of their zodiac sign cause that's just as accurate right?
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#64 grimhope
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Except that the dreamcast only sold 6 million units world wide in its ENTIRE LIFETIME.

THE 360 has already doubled that.

Your thread fails.:shock:

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I know this topic has been brought up time and time again but I got bored at work today and was just thinking about how similar the PS2/Dreamcast situation is to the 360/PS3 situation is.. It goes like this..

PS2/Dreamcast Era-Dreamcast color is white, PS2 color was black.

PS3/360 present time-360 Color is white, PS3 color is black ChristopherM80

woooooooooooo!

PS2/Dreamcast era-Dreamcast used the same "Last gen" format sony used for PSone games.. CD format. PS2 had "next gen" DVD built in

PS3/360 Present time-360 using Last gen format DVD. PS3 using next gen Blu ray ChristopherM80

Dreamcast us GD-Rom disk, capable of hold about 1 GIG or so, about as big as the Gamecube's, not a sigificant drawback.

As for the PS3 blu-ray, there is no real reason why you need it in gaming, I bet there will be under ten titles in the 360's lifetime that use mutliple disks, it's just not that big of a deal

PS2/Dreamcast Era-Dreamcast had a one year headstart and was outselling PS2 in the first year PS2 released

PS3/360 Present time-360 has one year head start. 360 outselling PS3 ChristopherM80

360 has currently sold more units than the Dreamcast did in its entire lifespan

PS2/Dreamcast Era-Dreamcast cheaper than PS2

PS3/360 present time-360 Cheaper than PS3 ChristopherM80

bonus

PS2/DreamCast era-Dreamcast known as "revolutionary" since first console to have online gaming.

PS3/360 Present time-Xbox live known as "revolutionary" for its online capablities ChristopherM80

woohoo, and PS3 still can't compare

PS2/Dreamcast Era- Dreamcast had the most games and better library while PS2 was struggling getting the good games out

PS3/360 Present time-360 has the most games and better librarary while PS3 is struggling getting the good games out ChristopherM80

Sony does have a problem, at least not everyone is still following them blindly

PS2/dreamcast- Media bashes PS2 for being expensive and "TOO Technologically advanced"and devs complaining that its too "Complex" to work on

PS3/360 Present time-Media bashes PS3 for being too expensive and "Too Technogically advanced" and devs complaining its too "Complex" to work on ChristopherM80

The PS3 is difficult to program for because the choices of what was put inside was made by businessmen trying to "push the sony brand", and incororpate proprietary formats and devices to push technologies as opposed to what is best for gaming.

The list goes on. discuss

ChristopherM80

The big diffrence is that the Ps2 was actually significantly more powerful than the Dreamcast, that is not the case with regard to the 360 and PS3, I still love my Dreamcast, and think it still has an amazing library of games, but the 360 is now second, it has had one amazing.

Another thing that struck me, even back when the PS3 was annouced, the price is WAY to high for a gaming console, which is what it is, no matter what Sony say, no matter what they say, it will always be viewed as a toy, nintendo see's this, and is making a killing, Microsoft has a foot in the hardcore, and a foot in the casual, and the PS3 is to expensive for its own goof, $400 for a toy is pretty steep, considering that its stripped of BC

The 360 will not suffer the same fate as the Dreamcast, it will easily be able to keep up with the PS3 in terms of Graphics and Gameplay, it is selling better, has more high profile games, like Halo, and is still very succesful after the launch of the Playstatiom, the Dreamcast faded pretty fast

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#66 ff7isnumbaone
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so? I already know this. i know it came out and 1998 in japan and 1999 in US.

Yellow_Rose

So not everone was buying DC like you claimed right?

hm i dunno it sold some millions. then before u know it was gone.

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keep that shred of hope alive cows