omg, duudes check this out!!! What SONY has instored for us!!

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="st1ka"] luckily i have created a pretty good response to whenever i hear the "microsoft is evil because it steals exclusives" defense and here it goes:

 

 

watch this

check it out at 3:04 "sony does anything it can to round up third party developers to support the playstation and is able to assigne 250 companies in japan alone"

 

the Playstation one was launched in japan in December 4 1994, Virtua fighter (the reason as to why third party developers started focusing on 3D as the documentary says) was was launched in November 1993 care to explain how does one company with no experience in gaming what-so-ever manages to convince 250 gaming companies to produce games for a market which was thougt to be over saturaded at the time? remember: there was sega, nintendo, 3DO, the Jaguar, Pippin, all of them were either already out or nearing their launch dates and thats not even mentioning the handheld markets

kar008

So because he has a 360 sig, he can't be in this thread? Maybe you should post it in PS3 boards then.

says the guy with 360 sig GTFOkar008

You should watch the video, It is there. It is about the history of the Playstation, and Sony was about to get 250 Gaming companies to work with the PS1. That really showed that money had been used to get them to work for the PS.

I know it is hard to take, but Sony isn't infalliable.

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"] it one thing to copy the concept (which yes you could say achievements copied it) however these were improved upon, whereas trophys appeared right after achivements as a direct response to them, therefore it is safe to say that trophies copied achievements (even if they are represented in a different way) rather then atari's systemst1ka

If you "improve upon" someone elses idea then that is copying.

Of course the boeing 747 is copying the wright brothers design. They both have wings, wing tips, fuselage, horizontal stabilizers, tail fins, etc. Infact the only thing that is left out from the wright brothers design on a Boeing 747 is the propellers because we now typically use jet engines. So yes they did copy the wright brothers. The Boeing 747 didn't just copy "a machine that flies".

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="st1ka"] luckily i have created a pretty good response to whenever i hear the "microsoft is evil because it steals exclusives" defense and here it goes:

 

 

watch this

check it out at 3:04 "sony does anything it can to round up third party developers to support the playstation and is able to assigne 250 companies in japan alone"

 

the Playstation one was launched in japan in December 4 1994, Virtua fighter (the reason as to why third party developers started focusing on 3D as the documentary says) was was launched in November 1993 care to explain how does one company with no experience in gaming what-so-ever manages to convince 250 gaming companies to produce games for a market which was thougt to be over saturaded at the time? remember: there was sega, nintendo, 3DO, the Jaguar, Pippin, all of them were either already out or nearing their launch dates and thats not even mentioning the handheld markets

kar008

[QUOTE="kar008"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"]Well that was interesting :Pkar008

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

If you "improve upon" someone elses idea then that is copying.

SporkFireXPS

Of course the boeing 747 is copying the wright brothers design. They both have wings, wing tips, fuselage, horizontal stabilizers, tail fins, etc. Infact the only thing that is left out from the wright brothers design on a Boeing 747 is the propellers because we now typically use jet engines. So yes they did copy the wright brothers.

oh yeah...clear case of plagiarism if i ever saw one :roll:

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"] merely the concept, but if we dwelve in to that area then like i said a boing 747 is copying the right brothers concept of a machine that flies isn't it?st1ka

Of course the boeing 747 is copying the wright brothers design. They both have wings, wing tips, fuselage, horizontal stabilizers, tail fins, etc. Infact the only thing that is left out from the wright brothers design on a Boeing 747 is the propellers because we now typically use jet engines. So yes they did copy the wright brothers.

oh yeah...clear case of plagiarism if i ever saw one :roll:

Haha now your just making me laugh. So it looks different? So what? It still uses the same parts.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

Of course the boeing 747 is copying the wright brothers design. They both have wings, wing tips, fuselage, horizontal stabilizers, tail fins, etc. Infact the only thing that is left out from the wright brothers design on a Boeing 747 is the propellers because we now typically use jet engines. So yes they did copy the wright brothers.

SporkFireXPS

oh yeah...clear case of plagiarism if i ever saw one :roll:

Haha now your just making me laugh. So it looks different? So what? It still uses the same parts.

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="st1ka"] luckily i have created a pretty good response to whenever i hear the "microsoft is evil because it steals exclusives" defense and here it goes:

watch this

check it out at 3:04 "sony does anything it can to round up third party developers to support the playstation and is able to assigne 250 companies in japan alone"

the Playstation one was launched in japan in December 4 1994, Virtua fighter (the reason as to why third party developers started focusing on 3D as the documentary says) was was launched in November 1993 care to explain how does one company with no experience in gaming what-so-ever manages to convince 250 gaming companies to produce games for a market which was thougt to be over saturaded at the time? remember: there was sega, nintendo, 3DO, the Jaguar, Pippin, all of them were either already out or nearing their launch dates and thats not even mentioning the handheld markets

kar008

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

oh yeah...clear case of plagiarism if i ever saw one :roll:

st1ka

Haha now your just making me laugh. So it looks different? So what? It still uses the same parts.

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

Of course the boeing 747 is copying the wright brothers design. They both have wings, wing tips, fuselage, horizontal stabilizers, tail fins, etc. Infact the only thing that is left out from the wright brothers design on a Boeing 747 is the propellers because we now typically use jet engines. So yes they did copy the wright brothers.

SporkFireXPS

oh yeah...clear case of plagiarism if i ever saw one :roll:

Haha now your just making me laugh. So it looks different? So what? It still uses the same parts.

So tell me, if I copy a 500 page book exactly but change the outside cover and the looks of the book is that not called copying?SporkFireXPS

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

 

Haha now your just making me laugh. So it looks different? So what? It still uses the same parts.

SporkFireXPS

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

[QUOTE="kar008"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"]Well that was interesting :Pknight-k

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

so why don't you try to counter our arguments then? you and the TC are the only ones defending the OP, not even other sony fanboys have come in here

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]So tell me, if I copy a 500 page book exactly but change the outside cover and the looks of the book is that not called copying?st1ka

I guess I don't know how to get this through to you. The Boeing 747 is the wright brothers plane (same design, same parts etc.). YES they added a few things here and there and changed the material used to make the same parts. It still uses the designs and parts (even though they use different material now to make those parts) thought up by the wright brothers to make that boeing plane fly.

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

SporkFireXPS

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

 

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

kar008

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

achievements and trophies are pretty much the same thing, they only have cosmetic differences really

People, the article is from January 14, 2008. Its like over 10 months old. It was PR fluff about Trophies.SpruceCaboose

LOL. I was reading this thread and saying to myself why does all of this sound familiar? It was because I read it a long time ago when another Sony fanboy posted telling us that the next update 2.41 was going to destroy XBL with something they already had since the 360 was launched.

God, Thank you for Sony fanboys, they truly are your most hilarious creatures..

Trophies release on July 2, 2008 in SSHD.

He was talking about Trohies and that level system that they use. No more speculation. We know what he was talking about. No megaton coming.

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

st1ka

added things? more like a completly overhaul, the only similarities are the fact that both still use wings... and even then the wings between the two are completly different

Look what you just typed in bold, why am I still argueing with you after you said something as ignorant as that? I mentioned several of the same parts they use. I'm done argueing planes with you haha. Go do some research, seriously.

[QUOTE="kar008"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"]Well that was interesting :Pknight-k

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

And I wasn't solely saying interesting to the fact St1ka was pointing out, the video as a whole was interesting.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

SporkFireXPS

added things? more like a completly overhaul, the only similarities are the fact that both still use wings... and even then the wings between the two are completly different

Look what you just typed in bold, why am I still argueing with you after you said something as ignorant as that? I mentioned several of the same parts they use. I'm done argueing planes with you haha. Go do some research, seriously.

[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="kar008"] says the guy with 360 sig GTFOsargentbotk

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

And I wasn't solely saying interesting to the fact St1ka was pointing out, the video as a whole was interesting.

[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="kar008"] says the guy with 360 sig GTFOsargentbotk

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

And I wasn't solely saying interesting to the fact St1ka was pointing out, the video as a whole was interesting.

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

 

Haha now your just making me laugh. So it looks different? So what? It still uses the same parts.

SporkFireXPS

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

added things? more like a completly overhaul, the only similarities are the fact that both still use wings... and even then the wings between the two are completly differentst1ka

Look what you just typed in bold, why am I still argueing with you after you said something as ignorant as that? I mentioned several of the same parts they use. I'm done argueing planes with you haha. Go do some research, seriously.

Ok this is the last things I'm going to say because you just don't get it.

The Boeing uses EVERY part (just made with different materials to make those parts) except for the propellers, because they now use jet engines. They also use the EXACT same design that the wright brothers used.

Have a good day, and don't forget to do some plane research!

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

kar008

And I wasn't solely saying interesting to the fact St1ka was pointing out, the video as a whole was interesting.

[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

Lol leave them, they're 360 fanboys on damage-control.

And the TC's funny analogy actually is (quite) right. An unreliable chinese phone VS the more reliable Iphone AKA 360=unreliable sh*tty hardware VS PS3's more expensive but better quality hardware.

st1ka

And I wasn't solely saying interesting to the fact St1ka was pointing out, the video as a whole was interesting.

The TCs article: Jan 14, 2008

 

Trophies offically announced: June 17, 2008.

 

Trophies release on July 2, 2008 in SSHD.

He was talking about Trohies and that level system that they use. No more speculation. We know what he was talking about. No megaton coming.

SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

heretrix

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

 

wait what :lol:

so you're saying the right brothers plane uses, metal alloys, jet engines, detachable landing gears and whatnot? :lol:

heretrix

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]The TCs article: Jan 14, 2008

 

Trophies offically announced: June 17, 2008.

 

Trophies release on July 2, 2008 in SSHD.

He was talking about Trohies and that level system that they use. No more speculation. We know what he was talking about. No megaton coming.

heretrix

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

 

Of course they added things to the copy of the wright brothers plane and improved upon the things they copied but it's still using the same parts and design to make the plane fly.

SporkFireXPS

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="heretrix"]:lol: Oh my god...That's sig worthy. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The design of planes have changed radically since that initial first flight..It's like saying the a Ferrari F40 uses the same design and parts as a model T..That's absolutely ludicrous...st1ka

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

*sigh*, I already said of course they use different materials to make the plane parts now but they are still the same just made with different materials. How many times do I have to say this?

EDIT: and I'm not saying they are EXACTLY the same shape either but they are still the same parts used for the same thing to fly the planes used today.

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

SporkFireXPS

Well:

I personally see a whole lot of difference...

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

SporkFireXPS

*sigh*, I already said of course they use different materials to make the plane parts now but they are still the same just made with different materials. How many times do I have to say this?

EDIT: and I'm not saying they are EXACTLY the same shape either but they are still the same parts used for the same thing to fly the planes used today.

why, dont u prove, we copied achievements? there is nothing related to achievements in trophy system. u just get trophies for doing some thing and it is no way related to xbox achievements and it is not patented by microsoft so they dont own the idea. but yea blu - ray is patented by sony, and we will decided whether to give microsoft or not.kar008

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

SpruceCaboose

Well:

I personally see a whole lot of difference...

You do? Other than a few things added that aren't needed to fly I don't see any difference. So tell me what is different?

[QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"][QUOTE="st1ka"] the sticks, and cloth.... did the right brother plain use anything other then sticks and cloth?st1ka

*sigh*, I already said of course they use different materials to make the plane parts now but they are still the same just made with different materials. How many times do I have to say this?

EDIT: and I'm not saying they are EXACTLY the same shape either but they are still the same parts used for the same thing to fly the planes used today.

Already did listed some, go back a page or two, and than if you want to know more go research it, I'm not going to spoon feed you.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

No it's not, please tell me what parts used on the wright brothers plane and the design is not on a boeing 747?

SporkFireXPS

Well:

I personally see a whole lot of difference...

You do? Other than a few things added that aren't needed to fly I don't see any difference. So tell me what is different?

oh i give up

You do? Other than a few things added that aren't needed to fly I don't see any difference. So tell me what is different?

SporkFireXPS

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="SporkFireXPS"]

*sigh*, I already said of course they use different materials to make the plane parts now but they are still the same just made with different materials. How many times do I have to say this?

EDIT: and I'm not saying they are EXACTLY the same shape either but they are still the same parts used for the same thing to fly the planes used today.

SporkFireXPS

Already did listed some, go back a page or two, and than if you want to know more go research it, I'm not going to spoon feed you.